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What if the Mongols Attacked Central Europe - Alternative History DOCUMENTARY 

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Wizards and Warriors starts a new animated alternative history documentary series focusing on the Mongol Invasion of Europe. In our scenario, Ogedei Khan doesn't die in 1241, which allows the Mongols to retain their unity and continue their incursions into Europe and Middle East. In 1245, the Mongols under the leadership of Batu Khan invade central Europe leading to the intense battles in medieval Bohemia. At the battle of Olomouc in 1246, the allied armies of the Holy Roman Empire attempt to stop the Mongol invasion. We at Kings and Generals hope that you will enjoy this video!
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Writer: Georgi Kolev
Animation: Georgi Kolev
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@WizardsandWarriors
@WizardsandWarriors Год назад
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@marcus4046
@marcus4046 Год назад
you should do one on the alternate outcomes of 1066 if Harold Godwinson stayed alive and pushed the Northmen and the Normans Back. Or if Harald Hardrada Conquered England and added it to the Norwegian Realm.
@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 Год назад
BRUH!
@pattonramming1988
@pattonramming1988 Год назад
I love your nuanced view of the Mongols as more than mere marauders but also capable tacticians masterfully exploiting pre-existing conflicts and exploiting the greatest weakness of medieval Christianity I left some suggestions for future videos and I apologize if the list is too long
@hadtrio6629
@hadtrio6629 Год назад
Awesome 👌
@satnav9699
@satnav9699 Год назад
5:07 there is an error in the upload
@AlternateHistoryHub
@AlternateHistoryHub Год назад
Fantastic work. Your production quality is incredible as always. Great job on this. More need to see it
@WizardsandWarriors
@WizardsandWarriors Год назад
Thank you very much! Coming from you, it is a high praise!
@mariorodio5046
@mariorodio5046 Год назад
@@WizardsandWarriors you should have posted this in your main channel so more views
@dacianastilean-styles3895
@dacianastilean-styles3895 Год назад
@@mariorodio5046 it would have taken away from the actual historical content which is the main focus of that channel so it is better like this
@msmith1890
@msmith1890 Год назад
Alternate history hub/kings and generals cross over?
@saratmodugu2721
@saratmodugu2721 Год назад
@@WizardsandWarriors are you planning batu’s line converting to Catholicism instead of Islam? And batu being named HRE as well as Tsar?
@Artur_M.
@Artur_M. Год назад
This might be the best alternative history video I've ever seen. For a brief second I was confused when hearing about Duke Bolesław the Horned, but then I realized you are talking about "Rogatka". That's actually brilliant! This particular Silesian Piast is one of the most colorful, yet little known (even in Poland) figures of this messy period of fragmentation of the Polish realm. I can totally imagine him rising to prominence by becoming the main Mongol collaborator in Poland.
@WizardsandWarriors
@WizardsandWarriors Год назад
The author of this script researched all minor events extensively. I really like it. :-)
@maddogbasil
@maddogbasil Год назад
@@WizardsandWarriors om so glad you guys were thorough on this video The mongols historically reached all the way to the jungles of veirnam and the islands of Indonesia But the misconception that mongoks were geld back by climate alone is wrong Also the Chinese had way more fortresses than Europe with a much larger population than Europe and was much more stable than Europe economically before the mongols invaded Song china lasted until khublai took the throne A politically divided land will have people looking for the own interests And I see the mongols taking advantage of their wealth to just buy loyalty at some points Chinese gunpowder and and bombs should definitely okay a role Along with tactical forms of warfare as crusades haven't been known for their surgical accuracy mostly lead by charismatic leaders
@wingedhussar1453
@wingedhussar1453 Год назад
@@maddogbasil idk Mongols at that point themselves were split tho. They tried to take over arab lands failed .tried Europe failed .tried Vietnam failed ,India etc .clearly they couldn't do the whole China like invasions of million warriors anymore
@maddogbasil
@maddogbasil Год назад
@@wingedhussar1453 you mean before or after ogedai's death Cos this is when Batu and subutai were still alive Oghedai was on the thrones Monke hadn't yet taken the throne and their wasn't yet the controversial khurultai that split them on the first place So yh they do still have the the capability and the unity
@gunarsmiezis9321
@gunarsmiezis9321 Год назад
But still it has flaws, for example it overlooks the fact that prūši lacked leadership. Had their revolt against the germans been sucessful they would have propably joined Lietuva, which isself was a tribal confderation of all baltic tribes that didnt fall to the germans. And prūši would certainly not come to rule kuršu, zemgaļu and žemaišu lands, which would also be either independant or join Lietuva.
@ShahanshahShahin
@ShahanshahShahin Год назад
One of my favourite alternative history but my no.1 suggestion is :- *_"What if the Eastern Roman Byzantine and the Sassanian Persian Empire had not fought irrationally for 26 years, would they have been able to stop the Arab Muslims?"_*
@matteocrosina5911
@matteocrosina5911 Год назад
it would be awesome and very interesting this alternative history!! probably the Eastern Roman Empire and the Sassanian Empire would become two major power in the middleages and also in the modern history! Without the Arab threat the Byzantines could concentrated to the west, reconquering Italy from the Lombards and defending the balkans from slavs invasions, developing in a great power. And maybe the Byzantine empire wouldt have lived the dark ages like the rest of europe with the surviving of cities and urban life like in the late antiquity.
@marcus4046
@marcus4046 Год назад
Eastern Rome:Hey nice job fighting the Arabs Sassanids: Hey you too Eastern Rome:.... Sassanids:..... Eastern Rome: So want to continue our Grudge Match for another Seven Hundred Years Sassanids: FUCK YEAH!
@thecrusaderhistorian9820
@thecrusaderhistorian9820 Год назад
Love that idea!
@msmith1890
@msmith1890 Год назад
@@marcus4046 the mongols or Turks would then be a major problem for Iran and Rome.
@rayzas4885
@rayzas4885 Год назад
Maybe but the Muslims had one of the greatest military commanders of all time on their side so they would definitely expand at the expense of the 2 empires
@GairBear49
@GairBear49 Год назад
A while back a friend and myself speculated about what if the Mongols returned. He thought they would make it to the Sea. I thought the wooded terrain of Western Europe would make it too difficult, but if they did, the Empire would be over stretched and could not hold on to Europe very long. I can't wait to see what your solution is. This has to be one of the most imaginative sites on RU-vid. Keep up the good work!
@hia5235
@hia5235 Год назад
The lack of success they had against Hungarian stone castles and garrisons shows the Mongols probably couldnt deal with Western fortifications: which were very far ahead of anything in the East.
@Jean_Jacques148
@Jean_Jacques148 Год назад
@@hia5235 It literally took them years to conquer central China which had terrain similar to Western Europe
@alphagamer9505
@alphagamer9505 Год назад
@@hia5235 no it wasn't, China had better fortications, but still took the Mongols 80 years to conquer China
@PoetofHateSpeech
@PoetofHateSpeech Год назад
There's no way they could have. Just fighting Hungary and Poland they suffered massive losses. Once they went against a combined western army in terrain that didn't suit them, they would have been destroyed
@PoetofHateSpeech
@PoetofHateSpeech Год назад
@@alphagamer9505 No Europe had better fortifications at the time
@MobiusV22
@MobiusV22 Год назад
A fun alternative history series would be some kind of war between the Roman Empire vs. Imperial Han China. This scenario is kind of like the Superman vs. Goku match-up but for ancient world history haha. It would be much more difficult to develop this scenario than the current video series since there would be more variables and speculation involved, but I can't think of any other people I'd want more to try this scenario since you all are so masterful and thoughtful in what you do. It also gives an opportunity to do a comparative analysis of both empires side-by-side, providing education for those who may be more familiar with the details of one empire more than the other.
@nothinghappenedatpearlharb7426
Unless Parthia fell and both rome and China moved in to loot the carcass, I don’t see how it could happen.
@Cancoillotteman
@Cancoillotteman Год назад
You have a small Persian problem to solve for this to happen ^^ But I get where your desire comes from
@taurinvandenbrand7574
@taurinvandenbrand7574 Год назад
This is the best alternate history video ive ever seen. Really impressed by this and Im hyped for the next videos!
@lyonvensa
@lyonvensa Год назад
That three pronged attack on the Mongols was devastating, but it's crazy that despite being completely surrounded, the Mongols gave one hell of a fight, showing just how powerful they are. Though I'm going to guess that they're gonna start to meet real resistance all across Europe now even if they're not fully united via a crusade or the sorts. Also, this alternate history series are gonna rise in popularity if you guys cover more famous 'what ifs' like Julius Caesar not getting assassinated, maybe the third crusade with Fredrick Barbarossa, perhaps if Justinian suceeded in restoring the Roman empire, or even Europe if the Axis powers actually won... I would love more!
@deron2203
@deron2203 Год назад
This I can tell is gonna be an amazing series! I can't wait to see the next episode!
@Mythical.History
@Mythical.History Год назад
@@georgekolev9832 Lmao that I have no doubt
@mikemodugno5879
@mikemodugno5879 Год назад
Awesome new spin on things. I would love to see some alternate Byzantine (Eastern Roman) history.
@db123OG
@db123OG Год назад
We definitely agree on that one
@genovayork2468
@genovayork2468 Год назад
This can be considered one. Who knows what will happen to Bulgaria and Rûm, Byzantium's primary geopolitical obstacles, if the Mongol advance succeds or fails?
@johnnyb7628
@johnnyb7628 Год назад
I love history, and alternate history is just as fascinating. Keep them coming !
@HistoryandOtherStuffwithBV
@HistoryandOtherStuffwithBV Год назад
This is amazing. When watching this yesterday, I enjoyed it so much I needed to tell my dad an abridged version of this, read all the comments that were up by the time just before I went to sleep, and then re-watch it first thing today. Needless to say, I'm looking forward to more.
@EnclaveEmily
@EnclaveEmily Год назад
This series needs to keep going. It's amazing
@KP-bk8ne
@KP-bk8ne Год назад
Favorite content y’all have made. I’ve seen all the Kings and Generals videos and have always hoped for an alternative history video. The depth of your videos really lends to a great alternate history story. Please keep these up. Also when’s the next episode? I’ve been checking pretty much daily.
@bandit6272
@bandit6272 Год назад
I was skeptical at first, that despite being a bit of a Mongol fanboy myself, it would be unrealistically tilted towards the Mongols. But so far, this is pretty good.
@bandit6272
@bandit6272 Год назад
@@georgekolev9832 Yeah, I think you did a pretty good job not portraying it "unrealistically" as one side getting all the breaks or only one side suffering internal conflicts etc. Definitely looking forward to the next part of the series 👍
@tylerboyce4081
@tylerboyce4081 Год назад
6:16 It's truly amazing just how vulnerable Europe was to invasion in the 1240s. King Louix IX and France, even though he had started mobilizing his army, had only a few thousand knights (at best). The Holy Roman Empire was split in two between the Guelphs and the Ghibellines. Maybe if they could unite against a common enemy they could stand a chance, but Emperor Frederick II was away, campaigning in Italy. There wasn't even a pope for Christendom to unite behind from 1241 to 1243!
@darthlegionguy
@darthlegionguy Год назад
This is a genre i have always wanted you guys to discover, thank god we are finally getting it.
@Guildelin
@Guildelin Год назад
I really enjoyed this video and find it interesting to see the different scenarios people come up with within alt history.
@Guildelin
@Guildelin Год назад
@@georgekolev9832 yeah it's amazing to think about how close something came to happening or how improbable what actually happened was.
@Xycomm
@Xycomm Год назад
Only been up on the site for less then a minute and I can already tell it’s gonna be a hoot and a holler.
@caglars5500
@caglars5500 Год назад
THANKS! After watching litteraly every single video on Kings and Generals, this was exactly what I was waiting for. Could you make after the Mongols another Video about an alternate Reality in which the Ottomans under Suleyman the maginificent took Vienna??? I think that would have been a mayor change in historY.
@Uberdude6666
@Uberdude6666 Год назад
I like the authentic-sounding historical quotes which you presumably made up for this video
@roryspickett9881
@roryspickett9881 Год назад
Love the content on this and the Kings and Generals channel. Keep it up.
@therob4371
@therob4371 Год назад
The best part is how many times I got mad, and was beginning to "check the interwebs;" before I remembered this wasn't Kings and Generals. Well done. I can't wait to see the next two episodes.
@BeratLjumani
@BeratLjumani Год назад
Ottomans are gonna need a couple of these. Theirs so many points where things could’ve gone wild, the first siege of Vienna, the second, the Crimean War, Russo-Turkish war of 1878, 1st Balkan war etc… I’m so excited to see what you guys are gonna make!
@KaiHung-wv3ul
@KaiHung-wv3ul Год назад
Or if they lost the Varna Crusade, or lost at Mohacs, or won at Ankara.
@nicholasschemper3206
@nicholasschemper3206 Год назад
This was an amazing video and I can’t imagine how much research it must have taken!Major kudos to the K&G/W&W teams and I can’t wait to see more alt history from you guys!
@ogladaczr.t.3168
@ogladaczr.t.3168 Год назад
Nice take, but i think still, past 1242 Capetian power in france was at one of it's peaks, so they could, after making peace with neighbours, really push back
@ogladaczr.t.3168
@ogladaczr.t.3168 Год назад
Hey, i feel like someone commented it, saying saint Louis wasn't the best tactician, with which i mostly agree. Where'd that comment go?
@SilverWindDub
@SilverWindDub Год назад
A crusade against the mongols? You have my attention. Great video and fascinating alternate history.
@ashtonbarwick6696
@ashtonbarwick6696 Год назад
How am I just now seeing this? I’m subscribed but that bell button does the trick I guess:/ this was amazing. The amount of detail makes alternate history seemed like IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED😂
@AngSco30
@AngSco30 Год назад
Glad this got put on Wizards and Warriors instead of Kings and Generals. Seems more appropriate to put alternative history here.
@connorgolden4
@connorgolden4 Год назад
Would y’all do any other alt history videos? Like Majorian succeeding is saving the western Roman Empire? A more successful reciqneust by Justinian? Alexander living longer and his empire with him? Or more modern ones? Like communism failing in China? Gorbachev saving the Soviet Union? Alternate WW1? Italy joining the Allies in ww2?
@denniscleary7580
@denniscleary7580 Год назад
Interesting 🤔 👍 You think you could do one about the Roman empire, never splitting nor falling? Also would be amazing to see all of Greece united and took over Europe after repelling king Xerxes. Sorry to keep adding and editing, but this topic has got me so stirred up and amazed that I can’t resist. Excellent job wizards.
@AlTonno
@AlTonno Год назад
After seeing how good this video is I really hope you do a lot more alternate history vids from now
@svenkrules9855
@svenkrules9855 Год назад
Already GOAT 🐐 tier video. I can't wait for the next episode.
@lerneanlion
@lerneanlion Год назад
I remembered that I mentioned about alternate history on Kings and Generals sometime but given up on that for like years now. But suddenly, this video appeared and reignited my hope of seeing other alternate scenarios on one of the best history and fantasy's channels on RU-vid! So thank you so much for creating this video! Question: Why the fractured Byzantine/Roman remnants did not ally themselves with the Mongols to retake Constantinople? Don't they shared the same enemy that is the Franks, aka Western Christians?
@lerneanlion
@lerneanlion Год назад
@@georgekolev9832 And do you guys have plans for the little simpler alternate history scenarios in the future? For example, Russia did not sell Alaska and the White Army and the Romanov's relatives fled there and established their anti-communist rule after the revolution broke out a few generations later. The other example would be the Ottoman Empire survived World War I, modernized and get rich by the oil discovered in Arabia, annexing Arabia, join World War II on the side of the Allies to retake locations such as Rhodes and Libya back from Italy and because the Ottoman Empire is still around, the Middle East is not a mess like in our timeline. So what do you guys think? Are these scenarios possible? Heck, can they even be part of the same timeline?
@lerneanlion
@lerneanlion Год назад
@@georgekolev9832 I understand. I am only hoping that my ideas such as Tsardom of Alaska and the Ottoman Empire survived World War I will helped attract more audiences to come if they became part of the voting polls.
@Tsuroerusu
@Tsuroerusu Год назад
This alternative history project is a great idea with superb execution! I think obvious candidates would be the Mongol invasion of Tsushima contrasted with the story of the video game Ghost of Tsushima. Or the Assassin's Creed games contrasted with the actual history of the periods they depict. For example, Assassin's Creed Valhalla is about the viking invasions of England which would be interested to see contrasted with the actual history to see, in detail, where actual history and the game diverse, perhaps with further alternative takes mixed in. Keep up the great work!
@andriko1986
@andriko1986 Год назад
Excellent video as always! Could you please after that story line to make a series about an Alexandrian invasion in Italy if Alexander hadn't died?
@ElBandito
@ElBandito Год назад
Frederick II was a wild card. The man was steeped in realpolitik, instead of religious zeal. Freddie would have been glad to have Rome burned to the ground just so he could benefit from it. Perhaps he would have came to a deal with the Mongols so that he could tighten his rule over the fragmented HRE more easily.
@ElBandito
@ElBandito Год назад
Loius IX on the other hand would have jumped at the chance of defeating the Mongols.
@davidwhitfield6025
@davidwhitfield6025 Год назад
Excellent alternative history. Gripping telling and despite the fight back the issue still very much in doubt. Given the varied leadership of the time it will be interesting to see how the three main players Louis IX of France, Henry III of England and stupor mundi (the wonder of the world) Emperor Frederick II of the HRE will act. Louis is the only reliable Crusader, Henry is a non entity militarily but Englishmen like William Longsword did go on Louis' 7th Crusade so there could be some unity between the English and French response. The big question will be Frederick. The man was brilliant but he was also not to be trusted and incredibly selfish and self interested. He abandoned Hungary but still took the Mongol threat seriously. A letter written by Emperor Frederick II, found in the Regesta Imperii, dated to 20 June 1241, and intended for all his vassals in Swabia, Austria, and Bohemia, included a number of specific military instructions. His forces were to avoid engaging the Mongols in field battles, hoard all food stocks in every fortress and stronghold, and arm all possible levies as well as the general populace. Was he intending a Fabian strategy to wear down the Mongols? Frederick did send letters to both Louis and Henry regarding a Crusade but who would lead it and how much would Frederick commit to his own defence in the field will never be known. Interesting to see how this will turn out.
@MDP1702
@MDP1702 Год назад
Frederick died in this video, no? It will be interesting how the HRE will react to that leadership wise and how fast he'll get replaced.
@davidwhitfield6025
@davidwhitfield6025 Год назад
@@MDP1702 Different Frederick. Emperor Fred II is still alive and doing his own thing (and still excommunicated). Probaly the Pope will make a deal to lift it yet again if Fred actually does something for the benefit of Europe. I feel that Louis IX will be the uniting force rather than the emperor and as long as he doesn't bring his idiot brother Robert of Artois he should be able to beat the Mongols. However I am guessing Robert will spoil this brother's careful plans and doing someting impetuous as he did in real life.
@davidwhitfield6025
@davidwhitfield6025 Год назад
@@MDP1702 No Fred II did not die. He's excommunicated and having trouble in Italy but in Germany he has been preparing defences for the past two years (and letting the eastern states burn).
@perrytran9504
@perrytran9504 Год назад
I remember reading about Frederick's contingency plans for potential further Mongol expansion, it's much smarter than to try for a decisive field battle especially since the odds are stacked against the European style of warfare right now. While knights can hold their own and keep up to some extent with mobility, the large numbers of infantry will be far less useful and incapable of forcing a fight unless the enemy is cornered like what happened in this video. The Mongols are also better equipped than similar enemies in the past as they also field plenty of heavy lancers instead of being just horse archers, and so they are not as easy to break as say the Seljuks. That said, hunkering down carries some drawbacks such as giving the enemy all the initative in where he picks his battles, and you can't order a total shutdown as key cities must still be supplied to withstand persistent sieges. Whether this is offset by being able to constantly harass them (probably easier for the slower Mongol subjects than the actual Mongols themselves as seen in this video) remains to be seen.
@davidwhitfield6025
@davidwhitfield6025 Год назад
@@perrytran9504 Admire him or despise him Frederick II was no fool and very pragmatic. I away he was as sensible a military commander as Richard Lionheart. Both men realised that you could not fight in the normal open battle both were used to in Western Europe. You had to control the battlefield as Richard did at Arsuf, tightly controlling your knights and protecting them behind a wall of spear and crossbows. Frederick enlarged on that with his defence in depth plan, letting others wear down the Mongols as they advanced toward his territories (not very honourable and bad luck to the Hungarians and the Poles but that was Freddy for you). Yes it will be interesting to see how the producers envisage Frederick's defence against the advancing Mongols.
@dresfs
@dresfs Год назад
This is too awesome! Please focus on making more of these!!!
@ashtonbarwick6696
@ashtonbarwick6696 Год назад
Please please please follow up on this series . I might drop a few sheckles of my own on this because it’s just that good
@WizardsandWarriors
@WizardsandWarriors Год назад
Working on it!
@Neilhammond64
@Neilhammond64 Год назад
What if the Mongols attacked Western Europe? George Carlin from Bill and Ted: Well why don't you go ask them?
@darthvader4338
@darthvader4338 Год назад
Yup this is a masterpiece 👏 and I like it however guys can we have an alternative history for what if the Napoleon won the war against the sixth coalition 😅
@cacaboudin26
@cacaboudin26 Год назад
One of the best alternatives vidéo I've ever seen. And I watched RU-vid in 3 languages ! By the way when is the next video coming ?
@nowthenzen
@nowthenzen Год назад
To all the "But the Castles!" and "But the Forests!" arguments. You think there were no castles in China or the khazar khaganate [Khwarazmian Empire, i got my Ks mixed up]? Yes, medieval castle building came to a high point right around that time but it takes time and $$ to build castles and most castles fell due to siege. If the Mongols swept the battlefield how long with the castles last? Does anyone think there were no forests in China? the Mongols were stymied by the DENSE jungles of Vietnam and Burma, terrain more difficult then most German forests. The Mongols even took to the seas to invade Japan and Java. Why would thick forests alone stop them? Finally, it is possible the damp of central and western Europe made their composite bows less effective; the glue came loose.
@adamnesico
@adamnesico Год назад
Khazars were already wiped be4 the mogols. Learn more history. The forest and castle density in China was far lower than Europe. Song dinasty feared an inner uprising, too despised militr affairs, so it had few fortresses. If mogols can keep the europeans as allies, they can use them for siege the castles. If they dont, and church is likely to deny them help, wont be esy to submit thousands of castles. Dont understimate german forests, one uncle of mine has been on the bed fr months just for hiking in german forest and get bitten by a bug. Yeah, moisture is another factor against them. Mogols didnt were so effective in humid battelgrounds.
@nowthenzen
@nowthenzen Год назад
@@adamnesico good point, white people would of course have beaten yellow people bc .. reasons.
@kellywsmar
@kellywsmar Год назад
This is already one of the best alternate history videos of all time. Sorry to repeat the comment of another person, but any other statement would be insuficient.
@iustiniustin9400
@iustiniustin9400 Год назад
Very nice!! First alternative video that i ever saw. Is very good
@artemo.shapovaloff5577
@artemo.shapovaloff5577 Год назад
At any timeline given, our brave king Daniel of Galicia would've never serve the Mongol barbarians for too long, in comparison to his distant cousin - Alexander "Nevskiy", the loyal kisser of the Khan's boot, who, while been trying to deal with his brother Andrew, had called one more Horde invasion to Rus, which was even more devastating then Batu's one)))
@adamnesico
@adamnesico Год назад
So, you think Daniel whould chose death?
@artemo.shapovaloff5577
@artemo.shapovaloff5577 Год назад
@@adamnesico in our timeline, he meticulously played his game, creating a visibility of obedience to the Khan for to avoid one more invasion, but simultaneously obtaining the crown from the Pope.
@adamnesico
@adamnesico Год назад
@@artemo.shapovaloff5577 so he didn’t revolted to the mongols. What makes you think he would have done in this more dire scenario.
@artemo.shapovaloff5577
@artemo.shapovaloff5577 Год назад
@@adamnesico the situation might not be so dire as if it is shown here - one wing of the Mongol army is annihilated and the whole Europe is uniting under the banner of the new Crusade. In this timeline Crusades 5-7th might be made against the Horde, not Saracens. And, above all, what I've been trying to say that king Daniel was not so deeply loyal to Mongols as his relatives to the North were. In his case, it was just a maneuver to preserve his lands, not willingly obedience. And it caused one of the main cracks between us, Ukrainians, and moskovites - we're political descendants of the Great Dutchy of Lithuania and Rzeczh Pospolita, they - of the Horde.
@adamnesico
@adamnesico Год назад
@@artemo.shapovaloff5577 Its really dire, they have annihilated just 1 tumen, that will anger the other 11. Volga bulgars too achieved a victory, what they made was just anger the mogols and make them return far more powerful and be annihilated. See what mogols made with th epeople that angered them. Once the news arrive to the others, they will make a punish expedietion, and the volynians will fade from existance. No rutenians in this timeline> No Ukraine as we know it. If Daniel was really loyal to his people he would have remained loyal here, he has brought the end to them. Oh,yes, and we know how succesful were those crusades.
@cans597
@cans597 Год назад
One of my suggestions of another alternative video: - What if Alexandre the Great managed to invade the Nanda Empire in Eastern India and even goes further to fight off the Warring States Periods in China.
@richardbradley2335
@richardbradley2335 Год назад
Could you do one about ''What if the UK had a competent parliament who deeply cared about decent British people'' ?
@reaganhayden5165
@reaganhayden5165 Год назад
😂😆 lol good one
@YourLocalMairaaboo
@YourLocalMairaaboo Год назад
This is alternate history. Not a Low Fantasy setting.
@richardbradley2335
@richardbradley2335 Год назад
@@YourLocalMairaaboo oh burn !
@Wowie2.0
@Wowie2.0 Год назад
cody from alternate history hub sent me, no regrets! great vid :)
@lucasjleandro
@lucasjleandro Год назад
Alexander Nevsky and Subotai together is so overpowered
@Americandragonrider333.
@Americandragonrider333. Год назад
Freakin tense, can’t wait for the next episode! Don’t take to long!
@johntipper29
@johntipper29 Год назад
Excellent and thought provoking: an educated and well presented approach to alternative history. Well done.
@xanfortunato
@xanfortunato Год назад
Alternative timelines on this channel is an amazing idea. Now do Thomas Anderson's Look to the West.
@spladam3845
@spladam3845 Год назад
Great video, I've long been fascinated by Mongol history, it's so deep and there is always more to learn. You folks know your source material so well, this was fantastic.
@googlia9751
@googlia9751 Год назад
Could you please include the numbers from each battle to make it sound more real? I really enjoyed the series and would love the know the size of each army and their casualties in those battles. That was the only part that felt fictional due to that lack of numbers.
@stephenketcham4179
@stephenketcham4179 Год назад
Amazing work. This is equal to your videos on actual Mongol history. I can’t wait to see the subsequent episodes.
@radguy72
@radguy72 Год назад
It's like listening to a book or story, I love it!
@kingmaegor5297
@kingmaegor5297 Год назад
Edward Longshanks, Mongolslayer! Make it happen!
@vaneriklucasan8365
@vaneriklucasan8365 Год назад
You guys are rocking it all!... Keep it up!
@Almugavar
@Almugavar Год назад
Noyan, what a badass. Always love when he turns up.
@krimzonstriker7534
@krimzonstriker7534 Год назад
Ohhh the possibilities with this. Caesar survives, Alexander survives, oh heck let's go France wins Trafalger and gets to launch the invasion of Great Britain after all? So many scenarios running into my head now :p
@Zaper66
@Zaper66 Год назад
Catching up before the premiere of episode 3
@luismdgr
@luismdgr Год назад
Please, make more alt-history videos! I can't watch enough of them
@giorgosgkialpis1394
@giorgosgkialpis1394 Год назад
What if Hannibal won the second Punic war and sack rome?
@abdulrahmanabdulkadri4825
@abdulrahmanabdulkadri4825 Год назад
Umayyad Conquest of Constantinople or Tours would be a great second series
@kierantungka2557
@kierantungka2557 Год назад
After the mongols would you do a alternate history what if france won the seven years war
@grimkupid8478
@grimkupid8478 Год назад
I love alternate history, would be great to see if Napoleon had not been defeated how things would be in Europe after the war,
@darklordmalthric3633
@darklordmalthric3633 Год назад
What if the Inca had Dinosaurs
@greenkoopa
@greenkoopa Год назад
They did
@chheinrich8486
@chheinrich8486 Год назад
More like what if south america remained separate form north america,
@darklordmalthric3633
@darklordmalthric3633 Год назад
@@greenkoopa I men’t like what if they had living dinosaur mounts
@josephphoenix1376
@josephphoenix1376 Год назад
Excellent Episode 👍
@JeffreyDeCristofaro
@JeffreyDeCristofaro Год назад
Talk about the ultimate RISK boardgame scenario! This one is very detailed in its theorization and meticulously charted!
@seanbruce8294
@seanbruce8294 Год назад
I have a few ideas for future alternative history videos: 1). What if Japan didn’t isolate itself after putting down a massive Christian uprising? 2). What if the Qing Empire actually traded in weaponry and technology with the Europeans instead of Opium in the mid 1840s? 3). What if the Founding Fathers decided to copy the type of monarchy in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, with George Washington as the first American king? 4). What if the cotton jin wasn’t invented and slavery was allowed slowly fade away in America, without the cost of the Civil War? 5). What if the European Union was formed several centuries earlier as a way to unite Europe against the Ottoman Empire? 6). What if the Native Americans and the European settlers were able to keep warm relations, and were able to have a somewhat stable relationship?
@wrightroenigk
@wrightroenigk Год назад
Yes please do more alternate history. I loved the first video and their is so much alt history out their to do. I am excited for part 2
@rendurai
@rendurai Год назад
Enjoyed this alot. But where is my 40k Universe videos?!
@fredhercmaricaubang1883
@fredhercmaricaubang1883 Год назад
GOD! This is SO PLAUSIBLE & yet SO EXCITING! MORE! MORE! ENCORE!
@fredhercmaricaubang1883
@fredhercmaricaubang1883 Год назад
@@georgekolev9832 No, THANK YOU for creating this WONDERFUL piece of Alternative History! If you'll permit me to say so, I would daresay it's worthy of Harry Turtledove! While we're on the subject of Alternative History, might I propose a project for you? This involves World War 2 &, more specifically, the War in the Pacific. If you're interested, I propose a what if, following the bombing of Pearl Harbor, Japan also landed their Marines to occupy Hawaii. Also, instead of just having his regular forces prepare for a siege in Bataan & Corregidor, what if Gen. Douglas McArthur would allow Filipino guerilla forces to be formed to harass the Japanese invaders? Would the Philippines have held out until the American forces returned? What if McArthur allowed his Air Force to attack Japanese air bases in Formosa after receiving news of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor? These are just some of my proposals for your future projects. What do you think?
@fredhercmaricaubang1883
@fredhercmaricaubang1883 Год назад
@@georgekolev9832 REALLY?! I'M SO EXCITED! I'll look forward to seeing it in the future! Speaking personally, I feel your channel will go down in history as a CLASSIC! And just like fine wine & fine women, your channel will only get BETTER with age! Once again, I look forward to MORE of your Alternative History series in the future! As the Vulcans in the Star Trek universe would say: "MAY YOU (& your loved ones & friends) LIVE LONG & PROSPER!"
@yog-sothothery5720
@yog-sothothery5720 Год назад
I'm so exicted for this series.
@AnimeFan-dl4qd
@AnimeFan-dl4qd Год назад
I would suggest making a alternative history series for Julius Caesar - as if he would survive the assassination
@sgauden02
@sgauden02 Год назад
This is awesome! Can't wait for the next episode!
@paulgaskins7713
@paulgaskins7713 Год назад
Holy crap! This is going to be a thing now with this channel let’s freakin go
@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
Very nice; I expect that the guy who wrote this is a very attractive and intelligent man
@ThejollyFrenchman
@ThejollyFrenchman Год назад
More. Seriously, this was fantastic.
@msmith1890
@msmith1890 Год назад
I think England, Portugal, Castile and possibly Norway will survive. As they are far away from the mongol supply base and have natural barriers. Great video can't wait for part 2.
@adamnesico
@adamnesico Год назад
If they conquer France, they can invade England, is so close.
@KaiHung-wv3ul
@KaiHung-wv3ul Год назад
Scotland, Sweden, and Iceland as well for similar reasons. Possible Aragon.
@arminhergl5388
@arminhergl5388 Год назад
Nice vid. I totally agree to the assumptions made, in the end the entirity of Europe would be too big of a chunk to chew for the Mongols.
@steyn1775
@steyn1775 Год назад
5:08 heeey what does my eye see? a single frame saying "Media offline" in 10 languages before continueing the video lol
@WizardsandWarriors
@WizardsandWarriors Год назад
Don't believe your lying eyes! :-)
@easytech_enjoyer8920
@easytech_enjoyer8920 Год назад
I had always asked this question about the mongols invading europe, thanks kings and gens for finally answering this for in our hectic schedule your our saviour
@JakubWojciechowski933
@JakubWojciechowski933 Год назад
I genuinely don't know whom to root for in this story. I mean, I'm European, but an Empire spanning from China to Spain? That sounds quite amazing
@DaCaldwell
@DaCaldwell Год назад
The speech at the end by the Pope gave me chills!
@LocalHeretic-ck1kd
@LocalHeretic-ck1kd Год назад
Great video. I love it.
@faelanlundeberg5671
@faelanlundeberg5671 Год назад
this has been excellent. I'd love to see more of these!
@torinbrown8196
@torinbrown8196 Год назад
I think Turtledove would be proud of this account of alternative history.
@idreamofempire1056
@idreamofempire1056 Год назад
It's like you guys played a Crusader Kings game and made a video of it Stellaris Invicta style I love it
@vincentslayer1459
@vincentslayer1459 Год назад
Looking at the treacherous and even hellish figure of Bolesław the Rogatka, his betrayal of the Mongols would be an interesting twist. For example, he amassed a large but poorly armed and trained army on his lands, a maximum of one-fifth of which would be knights and mercenaries, and the rest were groups of bandits, poor people, or other adventurers. Interesting fact Bolesław at the end of his reign gave his principality to a robbery against his army to keep it.
@CoffeeSuccubus
@CoffeeSuccubus Год назад
Finally, Devin's voice in an Alt history video!
@alexiospeverell
@alexiospeverell Год назад
Fantastic work, looking forward to the next one! Here is a humble sacrifice on the altar of the algorithm gods. 🛡⚔️👑❤️‍🔥
@chipsonhughes1369
@chipsonhughes1369 Год назад
Well this was friggin fantastic. Bravo I hope VTH reacts to this lol
@metinabay6884
@metinabay6884 Год назад
This is the best alternate history video ever.
@calvinsuu1949
@calvinsuu1949 Год назад
Batu Khan's army consisted of 40 tumens, around 400,000 soldiers, not to mention chinese and arab siege engineers, extensive intelligence gathering and with all probabilities gun powder as well...
@military0f21stcentury2
@military0f21stcentury2 Год назад
keep it up brother!
@RCCOWolke
@RCCOWolke Год назад
This is **awesome!
@onemoreminute0543
@onemoreminute0543 Год назад
Now THIS is an interesting alt history!
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