As a Scot, I don't really want the UK to break up. If the UK was an actual union where every member was treated equally and had equal power in politics (kind of like the USA but ideally better than the USA) I would be very happy staying. Sadly that is not the case so I think we have no choice but to leave. I think if we're going to leave it's going to have to be within the next few years. Almost the entire justification for leaving is how we wanted to stay in the EU and more recently the handling of COVID, but I think if we wait too long we lose all credibility in that argument. If we're going to leave it needs to be before 2025 in my opinion. By then brexit will most likely not be something even remember that well and COVID will be mostly forgotten as well (hopefully) so there's really no good justification for leaving at that point other than us just wanting to leave because "fuck the english amirite"
...so you're saying the Isle of Man has so little to recommend it that the British, who were famously interested in taking over everything they could sail to, basically only bothered because it was in their back yard
@@riptidemonzarc3103 yeah I mean you have tailless cats and six horned Sheep but the English invaded in the 1200s and queen Elizabeth is technically lord of mann
Maybe she will choose to go with Scotland, it's where her mother was from and technically she is more directly Scotland queen than England's. Also she likes it better there.
It's not going to survive this decade. You won't have to die and you'd better start practicing your banjo to celebrate Scottish and Welsh independence and Irish reunification.
I will pay with Scottish money to see that but I expect to see you alive. Can I ask that you play that old British favourite, ...Beethoven's "Ode To Joy".
Also, he mentioned Ireland getting independance in 1922 and showed a newspaper frontpage with the leaders of a failed rebellion who were all executed in 1916.
If Scotland (or any of the UK counties) wish to leave the Union that is their right. Although it will be sad day - seeing the break up of my country. But democracy and the right to choose is most important. I just hope we could then become strong allies.
India want uk should devide and india must ocupie smaller england and make them slaves and india must take revange to england they rulled india 200 years i hope indian origion rushi sunik made this when he become priminister of uk
I’m just a kid so I don’t really understand politics but I want Scotland to be independent because I want to be known as Scottish and not British and I think we would be better split! I will still be sad about it but I think it’s for the better 😁 we should definitely stay allies tho
@@mikeyy2510 no we should not. If you gain independence, you should be on your own. No military dependence, no pledges of allegiance. You will fall, and their will be no one to blame but yourself.
Small error on the map: Isle of Man is shown as part of England, when it is in fact a separate Crown Dependency (somewhat analogous to Puerto Rico's relationship to the US).
@@eamonlyons8318 Technically the Crown owns it, and it runs its own internal affairs via its parliament (Tynwald), though it largely relies on the UK for foreign policy and defence etc.
Actually, Puerto Rico is not that good an analogy.... technically Congress can pass laws for P.R., while technically, the UK's only has authority over the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands that are granted to it by the Crown. It is ridiculously complicated.
When a place in the Uk ends in, "burgh," it sounds like, "buruh" or to some people "bruh". So Edinburgh is pronounced edin - buruh or how most people in Scotland pronounce it, "edin - bruh." Also this was a very good video.
@@fgsaramago No this was helpful I know know I’ve been saying it wrong please remove that pfp your trashing someone with an IQ over room temperature unlike you
Do you know how to pronounce names for cities in other countries? I don’t think Brits are the best placed at giving language advise to others. Lol The ending BURG comes from the Germanic language so if anything, Brits have decided to mispronounce it.
5:46 Just btw, 🏴 isn’t just a blue background, it also has a white diagonal cross. The diagonal cross in 🇬🇧 is half-white and half-red, the red being St Patrick’s saltire not the Ulster Banner.
But the country (northern ireland's) flag isn't St Patrick's but the ulster's. Because St Patrick's is flag of the Kingdom of Ireland (United Ireland) (Sorry if it's a little difficult to understand but not very good English yet)
@@dwvide6049 when England and Scotland first formed the United Kingdom in the early 17th century, Wales was considered part of England. St Patrick’s flag was incorporated when Ireland joined, then Southern Ireland left. Would be expensive to change all the flags again throughout the empire and the UK flag is incorporated into The Australian and New Zealand flag as well as many others. So easier to just keep the St Patrick’s cross in the flag.
@terry phidaheights good Friday agreement buddy, they won’t like it but it’s legally binding. They’re beating their chests over the Irish Sea border now, and how’s that going for them?? Westminster don’t give a hoot about them as the supply and demand arrangement with the torys has shown. Unionism is dying, they need to stop throwing the toys out of the pram whenever a UI is mentioned and, start making arrangements were their place in society is going to be or they’ll be left behind. I’m sure you’ll say “the sons of ulster will take up arms” or some brutal rhetoric like that, but at the end of the day there’s plenty in the nationalist side that are also willing to fight if their democratically elected vote is sold down the river for the appeasement of the official minority and, they have the law behind them. Those threats don’t work like they did in the early 1900s, your only card is a joker.
@@mawhinney2.196 In the event of a United Ireland after a Referendum. For those thinking of rising trouble, America still are the Guarantor's of the Peace in Ireland, and can be invited in as a Peace keeper force by the Irish Government, so Nationalists won't have to retaliate. The Law and Democracy must always be the first priority in the free World.
Even if just Scotland left and Northern Ireland joined with The Republic of Ireland (which I believe to be the most likely scenario out of all the ones possible). It certainly would be the end of an era and a important point in history.
Basically England would fall into the background the USA would find better relationships in France Germany and Japan instead and if Scotland and northern Ireland left what makes the UK think that Australia would keep the queen as there head of a state because they won't
@@thewhovianhippo7103 should Scotland and Northern Ireland leave I imagine we wouldn't be far behind to be honest. Most people here are on the fence with independence but things are changing at a rate of knots.
@La nova renaissance do you have any data claiming that Wales is profitable in comparison to say Scotland? It's incredibly hard for me to find such data despite Wales being the only country in the UK that exports more than it imports (before Brexit anyway). There's also the issue that profits in chains such as Tesco count as English profit if the HQ is based in England and all tax is paid through that HQ. Any data on this would be great to strengthen the Welsh independence movement.
Using just GDP figures for international comparisons are a bit unfair. Wales' GDP is about the same as Kenya or Ethiopia yes, which sounds bad. However our GDP per capita its slightly less than Italy and higher than Portugal and Spain as Ethiopia's population is more than 30x higher than ours and Kenya's is almost 10x higher
yes but when you look at the power a country can weild it is their GDP, if you're looking at how well each person compares to other countries then yes use per capita.
Scotland : Popular support for independence and a governing party pushing hard for independence. Catalonia : Popular support for independence and a governing party pushing hard for independence but they're literally not allowed to. Quebec : Low support for independence in the most recent poll and a governong party that does not want independence.
Catalonia is trapped and can never be free. It's like Tibet. Quebec complains, but the people just blow hot air. Scotland has a decent shot at independence, but England would keep the oil fields and force Scotland to transfer its nuclear weapons.
@@MLV1000 lol u have no right to vote in catalonia, it's like letting england vote in the scottish referendum 🤣 it's quite entertaining to see the spaniards use the fascist constitution for an excuse. Franco lives on
@@myriadmemento1298 Maldives,Sri Lanka, western Myanmar, southern Afghanistan, nepal, Bhutan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, India. These were together Indian continent and later on after collision to Asia it's called indian subcontinent.
5:33 Oh, dude... Ain't no way the Ulster Banner would the flag of an independent Northern Ireland. It's got far too many ties to the Unionist movement to ever be fully accepted by the Nationalist population. Flags are serious business in NI!
John Fraser Nationalists are irish nationalists not northern irish nationalists , they won't accept northern independence .Not saying that they are not northern irish nationalists ,but they would be a separate group to the traditional nationalist group and would also have links to the unionist population .
@@tomoswynne7783 Wales would not exist without England. That is a fact. It would be an underdeveloped area as the English and Scottish were the ones to build up Wales due to it’s natural resources a Scotsman, the Marquis of Bute basically built Cardiff.
@@hansfromcongo6322 but that's still an ignorant comment, yes it probably wouldnt be much of thing without england but that's almost irrelevant. Wales is and has been poorly treated and thats just fact
The Celtic families (Ireland, Scotland, Isle of Man & Wales) should join and bring about a Gaelic language revival in their respective states! England should Cuir méar I do thóin
Totally, I live in Ireland and the government’s attempt of reviving the langauge revival is atrocious. Like it’s there, we learn it in school, but there is no attempt at making more Gaelscoils (Irish only speaking schools) same case is Gaeltachts.
@@CC-wf2qb That's the most subjective "best option" I've ever seen, for most people I know the biggest dream is a united Ireland, very few people want an independent Northern Ireland.
Ireland wouldn’t accept Norn Iron despite what it says. You have to remember that during the troubles the IRA side was a tiny minority. The ulster unionists and paras would be a worse headache because there is more of them. Bringing Norn iron in would lead to a civil war. So independence although not what anyone wants is quite a likely outcome if the area votes for leaving the U.K.
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In the section about Wales, he said the Welsh resent Brexit because it led to a loss of funding from EU. Actually, UK was always a net contributor to the EU, so every Euro spent by EU in Wales was funded by the UK tax payers. Also Wales voted to leave EU.
Not true. EU has several incomes one being VAT and Customs charges from imports into EU. EU has various funds like the EU Structural Fund and Investment and the EU Regionjal Development Fund. Cornwall has received over 1 billion euros from the EU funds since the year 2000 which has helped fund jobs, local businesses, infrastructure, training and research. The House of Commons library gives this average sum from 2016-2019: "There are different ways to measure the funds the UK received from the EU. The above figure of £4.5 billion includes only funding allocated to UK government to manage. However, the European Commission also allocates funding directly to UK organisations, often following a competitive process. In recent years these funds have been worth around £1.5 billion - £2.5 billion to the UK. Accounting for these receipts results in the UK making an average net contribution of around £7-7.5 billion per year between 2016 and 2019, rather than the £9.2 billion calculated by HM Treasury." An average net contribution of £ 7-7,5 billion!
There's the opportunity cost of losing the common market. Think of it this way you might be paying the most for rent in a house share but you're still getting a house.
@@roybabineaux5353 Um USA did not actually get another power ruling them after they gained independence from the British. Quite the opposite actually; USA expanded to the pacific after they gained independence from the UK
i am a hongkie (a cheeky way to refer to hongkonger) and i hate british rule either . Under british rule , hong kong natives have no opportunity to rise to the top offices. Most young people simply wasnt born yet to remember those days.
10:34 while it is mostly not recognized as it's own country, many residents of the Isle of Man consider it to be not part of any UK country. I live on the Isle of Man, and we have a separate government and laws. It would be cool to be internationally recognised as a country because most people don't know we exist
@@tacotuesday2489 The Isle of Man isn't part of Wales, Ireland, England, or Scotland. If it is part of another country, I don't know what as it is also separate from the UK
The Isle of Man isn’t part of England, you shouldn’t have included it at the start. If Wales was represented in 🇬🇧, it would include St David’s Cross, not 🏴.
Realistically the Isle of Man would stay with the England under the ‘crown’ in a split scenario, but I agree they are autonomous and should not of been included here
@@RICO-2024 the Isle of Man is a crown dependency, meaning technically the Isle of Man is owned by the ruler of the UK, In this circumstance where wales, Northern Ireland , and Scotland leave the UK, the Isle of Man is still under ownership of the U.K. (now just England), although obviously keeps it autonomous rights. So the Isle of Man would become a crown dependency of England instead
Yeah, that's the most likely outcome. If the UK breaks up, it will be because Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland leave. So England would be the successor state and by default would inherit overseas territories. Maybe some would seek independence instead, but I don't think that's likely.
@@eugeniaoberlin8665 The USSR dissolution is a good example so yeah, England would probably retain the seat on the UN Security Council. As for Gibraltar and the Falklands, in 2002 and 2013 respectively they each voted overwhelmingly to remain as British Oversea Territories with massive voter turn outs. No doubt they'd want to keep the status quo as much as possible. In practice they're already independent with the UK just responsible for their defence and foreign affairs.
5:17 Northern Ireland probably would not keep the Ulster banner, it’s not an official flag and it has a crown on it. If it were to secede, likely it would adopt either a new flag or if it joined Ireland the Irish one.
The Irish Tricolour and anthem would both have to be changed for completely new ones in any united Ireland. It really wouldn't be the ROI plus NI in reality. Even the current Taoiseach has stated Northern Ireland and Stormont would still remain in any united Ireland setup. In reality, there's nothing in the GFA that states Northern Ireland and Stormont would be abolished. It literally tells you devolution would remain and that only the sovereign power would change hands from London to Dublin.
But separate parliaments and separate governments. That only stopped with the Union because Scotland begged England to rescue them from bankruptcy - the Darien Crisis. How quickly they forget. Every 200 years or so.
@@neuralwarp Scotland didn’t beg England. England bribed the Scottish lords and earls to vote for it. They did so due the failed Darien scheme, but it was not Scotland that begged. The Scottish people were overwhelmingly against this.
@@stephene.8737 Scotland was bankrupt due to failed colonial projects. The Bank of England took on their debt. Get your information from history books not rewritten by the SNP.
Hence an independent Scotland would remain a monarchy by default. And would essentially join the commonwealth realms by default as HM Queen Elizabeth 2nd (of England) is also HM Queen Elizabeth 1st by right and not as a result of the act of union.
I totally disagree, as Scotland doesn’t make enough money to be wanted by most people in England, so they will probably agree to it. The Uk allowed Scotland to vote whether to leave in the independence vote a few years ago, so why would they now, require England to vote
haha the English will never get a vote on this why because they have no sovereignty,maybe they should read the 1707 treaty and ask why it cost them their sovereignty and why their tory masters were so quick to take it away from them and lock it in the new UK parlaiment. Only Scotland can end the UK. Oh and when Scotland does become indepenent there will be no UK as the UK is a treaty between Scotland and England,Wales and N Ireland come under the English side of the treaty.
I was with you until you mentioned that Gibraltar could “finally cave and join Spain”. A referendum held in Gibraltar resulted in 99% voting to remain British! I’m sure that if the UK itself broke up, the Gibraltarians would rather be under Scotland than Spain!
If the UK were to break up it would be interesting if Gibraltar ended up becoming an independent city-state. Seems unlikely though, unless they had no other options besides joining Spain.
The only reason Gibraltar exists is the british navy. Gibraltar regularly breaks international treaties, is a major contraband and piracy harbor and harasses spanish boats on spanish waters. If England stops protecting them Spain would not give them the choice to vote, they have more than enough casus beli to justify the invasion and a lot of animosity. Not to mention even if somehow they keep enough international support to avoid military annexation they'd still get labelled as the fiscal paradise they are and blockaded, which would be lethal. Unlike Andorra Gibraltar can't subsist without international trade nor does it have independence guarantees. It literally can't survive without the UK.
@The Duck I don't see why you would bring that up but for the record their issue is similar, in that if spain broke or was unwilling or unable to maintain its pressence there, it wouldn't gain independence, at least not for long, as morocco would annex it instead. Ceuta exists specifically so spain can claim control of the strait, much like gibraltar exists so britain can ignore every environmental and economic treaty it's ever signed. Without that purpose, they would not remain separate. Either way morocco and spain are opposed in this situation however. Morocco makes proclamations about wanting to annex ceuta and melilla whenever they need popular opinion to turn somewhere else (when local politics suck ass for the king) but it hasn't done anything of worth about it pretty much ever. Because the spanish ports are of great importance to morocco logistically and politically, being the cornerstones of their migratory pressure strategy to influence the EU and a vital node in keeping their international trade and protectionist politics compatible. Meanwhile Spain's been biting its teeth about Gibraltar and only throwing a fit whenever one of the oil spills happen or the british navy protects a specially high target druglord in its harassment of spanish police. But it's done so due to britain's power, not because Gibraltar could offer anything to it. Indeed it hurts spain way more than it helps. So you can expect spain to attack gibraltar if it could get away with it. Morocco's chances of attacking mostly depends on how much internal strife it has at the time, if it needs patriotism to surge it will do so and use it to revindicate their "great morocco" propaganda. If things are calm and there's no need for distractions they'll wait and see if it is in their best interest to ignore spain's weaknes if they think it'll be temporary.
As a danish person I’m really fond of British people, culture and history and I really love Britain and hope they stay together. It’s just very sad that they screwed the selves over with brexit.
@a basketboy Yes mate our economy is doing fantastic and our leadership is now musical chairs, brexit was the last vestiges of English nationalism and it's the cancer that will eat away at the core of the union eventually killing it. It's not as dramatic as it sounds really, I mean there will still be an England, probably England and Wales if i'm honest, but Scotland will be gone and the north of Ireland will finally be where it should be instead of being a financial blackhole sucking the rest of the UKs tax money to placate some Neanderthal loyalists still living mentally in the 17th centaury
@a basketboy stop stealing English taxpayers money, you aren’t British, Britain is England Scotland and Wales, you are Irish, stop deluding yourself and leeching off hardworking English taxpayers
@@grahamliveif they want it they can get it, but let's just be honest. Scotland and especially Wales would be entirely dependent on England for many factors including energy, protection and trade. Except that it would add unnessecary borders and other obstacles. Just like leaving the EU, welsh and scottish independence would wreck the respective economy. And joining the EU wouldn't help them anymore than trade deals with other commonwealth nations and the US helped the UK after brexit. And it is pretty clear that the UK will eventually rejoin. And why rejoin seperately if we can do it together as well? We'd be a powerhouse, a loud voice within the Union instead of multiple smaller ones, easier to ignore.
I think in that situation Scotland and Wales would decide to be independent, and Northern Ireland would join Ireland. I doubt they'd see any point in continuing to be in a union together without England. So if England declares indepdendence, it's effectively England deciding to disband the UK.
@@michaeldmingo1525 There's a party called the English Democrats which did want independence at one point. I think now they are just aiming for England to have its own Parliament within the UK.
Since Scotland was already part of the EU through the UK, I highly doubt that EU would pass up the opportunity to let them rejoin as independents. They rejected Brexit and this would truly be respecting the will of the Scottish people.
If an independent Scotland was a thing, they’d be in full control over the fish and oil industry that England depended on. With this much resources the EU cannot afford to let this opportunity slide
The isle of man is already an independent country, it isn't an overseas territory it is a crown dependency, which means it relies on the UK for military protection, but aside from that its not part of the UK.
There’s no way Gibraltar would want to break away from the UK/England. That’s because, at the moment, it is largely its own place allowed to do pretty much whatever they want without British interference. It’a unique place, not truly British but certainly not Spanish. That would change if they joined Spain as the Spanish would put a pretty brutal Spanish imprint on the place by way of an example i.e. you’re now Spanish. The unique character of the place would almost certainly be rubbed out and that would be an awful thing to witness being imposed on Gibraltarians.
@@kf9346 - perhaps you can explain why, the last time they had a referendum in Gib, *well over 90%* of the population said they wanted to maintain their present relationship with the UK?
@@kf9346 Unlikely - under the Treaty of Utrecht that Spain originally ceded Gibraltar to the British, if GB ever relinquishes control of the rock it has to offer it to Spain first. The odds of Spain saying no and allowing Gibraltar to become independent are pretty remote.
@@johnpotts8308 But for the fact that international law did a huge swing into the primacy of self-determination over treaty law in the 90s. Common assumption is a plebiscite by locals trumps all. I would even say Hong Kong was the last gasp of a treaty trumping local self-determination, and even that was able to happen only because at the time, there was barely a a local Hong Kong political culture and awareness--had Hong Kongers demanded a referendum before the hand-over, it would have had to have happened.
I hear the Welsh revolutionary army has recently purchased two hundred septic tanks. They said in a press release, when they work out how to drive them they're going to invade England!
It always confuses me when people complain about England having the most power in the UK. England has over 6x the population of the other 3 combined, ever heard of democracy?
Confused are you stupid it’s got no baring on population Let me educate you The treaty was between two sovereign nations Therefore both should have equal say in government If you joined a golf club and another member had six times your family’s members would you accept them controlling all decisions but you still have to pay the same annual fee So if you can’t understand that basic fact you fall into the arrogant English establishment bucket
@@josephslater2266 seriously ???? Are you for real ,,,,,,can you count by 10 Have you attended primary school Let me educate you English members of parliament 533 Scottish members of parliament 59 Wales members of parliament 40 N/Ireland members of parliament 18 Total for Scotland Wales and Norther Ireland = 107 So even if all the three remaining country joined forces to vote for anything approx one quarter of English MPs can out vote them Do you call that democracy Are you so stupid or uneducated to understand that the Westminster parliament is English It’s controlled by England Also the second chamber of unelected lords is English split between Tory Labour and liberal parties Not one SNP member Now you know why we’ve had enough of your corrupt government dictating your will on us without representation Scotland has never voted Tory since 1955 Do you now understand why we will not entertain your arrogance any longer
@@MrGordonhaining Do I need to remind you that no English member of parliament can vote on laws that relate to Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland that are made in their parliament's, but seeing as England doesn't have a separate parliament they have to be passed by the parliament that sits in Westminster which includes MP's from Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland. So therefore they have a vote on laws that affect the English, as I said is that democracy.
@@josephslater2266 The fact that MPs in Westminster dont decide laws in thr devolved administrations is correct. In the same way that MPs dont directly voye for local council run services. So yes, technically, you are correct. However... Similar to the power MPs, especially the party in power, deciding the fate of local councils through grant allocations etc... They, MPs, can vote on legislation that has an impact upon the devolved regions. For example, NI voted to stay in the EU but Brexit happened, NI voted overwhelming for parties in its local Assembly for pro-EU/ very soft Brexit parties and really didn't any border be it on land or sea. Yet predominantly English MPs voted for the "Brexit Deal" which has had massive ramifications for NI, including but not limited, to stirring up the geo-sectarian tensions that simmer under the surface.
@SalNova15 that’s actually where it comes from the st George cross worn on armour of knights Templar’s they operated in ache and other places in the Middle East during the holy land crusades
Don’t forget that in 1704 the population of Gibraltar was expelled, and they went on to found the nearby San Roque. In fact both, Gibraltar and San Roque share the same flag.The colony was then repopulated with people from around the Mediterrean (Maltese, Genoese, etc.). So the orginal inhabitants could ask to return, to there homes one day and things could go a different way...
@channeleightythree083 there seems to be way to much of this unhealthy, toxic hatred of England on the Internet. Let me put it in real simple terms. The English people are not guilty of anything besides being born. England has a vastly higher population, wealth and power over Scotland, N.Ireland and Wales. Like any nation that has more power than it's neighbours, it will use that power to take land, and more power This is not unique to England, it happened/happens all over the world and had done since countries first existed.
@channeleightythree083 Are you sure about that last part? You do realize the EU is a failing socio-state. Even if the UK hadn't left the EU, it would have collapsed inevitably. Bureaucracy isn't the future. You call the UK undemocratic but you would rather the EU govern you instead. What a joke.
Honestly, it would be great to see this happen. The Scots, Welsh and Irish already have their own nationalists in power in their areas. It really comes down to how to divvy up the assets. As England pays the most taxes, they obviously get to take the lions' share of the military etc. However the English parliament should not be guilted into paying anything else. The English can go nuclear in order to meet their energy requirements. Move the nuclear subs to Devonport. The welsh and scots and N.Irish have the military establishments and training areas that are currently built under the British Army. They have their own home grown regiments. The economies would recover and blossom. The green socialists in Scotland would have to recover from their angst over having to use oil to fuel their energy needs, the English keep the pound, The scots and N.Irish have their own currencies so they can keep those. The welsh would have to sort something out for themselves. At the end of the day, why would the English want to stay in a Union,l with other member counties who majority hate the Union. The English pay for the other countries to survive. Time for them to pull on their big boy shorts, stop suckling at the English teat, and go out there and make it on their own.
England would be far better off if they left the union with 2.4 trillion worth of economic and growing its GDP per capita would be higher than it's now, and they won't have to spend money looking after Scotland, they can spend for there defence
@Nick Lindsey Pretty sure most of the UK tourism is london, if someone took me to Glasgow for a holiday I'd stab them in the knees and leave them for dead
Yeah funny how all these people keep going on about breaking up the UK. I think if it happened we would have an influx of Scots, Welsh, Northern Irish along with all the hordes across the channel still wanting to come and live in England rather than France. I think those smaller countries would suffer greatly economically as their new governments would not generate the GDP- third world economies.
If you listened and followed the scenario then Argentina occupying Falkland again would make a lot sense. England would be weaker and would also have more urgent matters to take care of than an Island somewhere at the coast of Argentina that in reality has no strategic value or resources worth fighting for. To my understanding Argentina is still very much interested of that island as it is factually in their geographical area.
@@karisalonen12 England wouldln't be much weaker at all considering the vast majority of the population and wealth come from England. The island does have resources worth fighting for such as oil. The island is rightfully British and has a very british-supporting population - letting Argentina take it without a fight would make britain look weak and helpless to the world thus ruining it's reputation
@@karisalonen12 Dude, we would still piss in Argentina's mouth, even after a complete break up of the union and on our very worst day. Let them try... We'll send the SAS and Ghurka's in. Tell the Ghurkas they get a bonus per confirmed kill. They mark their confirmed kills by bringing back heads. Those lads dont fuck about.
@@spwicks1980 someone is living deep in the times of british empire. Someone forgot to tell you that the british empire got dismantled like 70-80 years ago?
When you mentioned currency, you forgot to mention that Scotland and Northern Ireland prints Thier own currencies. However Wales does not also what about passports, Embassies and consulates.
The Isle Man used many tears ago belonged to Scotland, ruled by Olaf the Black King of Man,his son Leoid the founder of the Mac Leoids. Manx Gaelic and Scots Gaidhlig are almost the same language!
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Firstly, if Scotland and Wales join the EU, that would meen hard external EU borders between these countries and England. This will have an impact on their export markets in England. With regard to England keeping the UK seat at the UN, this would depend in part on whether England is seen as the successor state of the UK (i.e. whether England retains responsibility for treaty obligations and economic debts accrued by the UK, or whether all of these responsibilities would be nullified if there was no successor state).
Yes but they're land boarders. There won't be as much of a bottle neck situation as the whole of the UK is having right now with the continent. More over Scotland is already investing in port infrastructure to export directly to the EU, stopping what is currently going through England and leaving just what's going to it. That in turn will reduce said bottle neck at English ports going to the EU.
@@pspence9569 Right now, the ports bottlenecks are as much about goods going too and from Asia as what is going too and from the EU. My concern is not just about transport issues but about losing customers and suppliers. It will mean a company in Edinburgh will lose customers in Newcastle, and visa versa. Not just commercial links, but social links, since the borders between Scotland and England will be no different than the border between Poland and Belarus, and someone in Edinburgh who want to see their family in Newcastle will need to show a passport to do so. This is all analogous to the problems with the NI protocol but on mainland Britain.
@@Hfil66 I think the reality would be that Scotland would take 5-15 years to join the EU so in all likelihood a part of separation a trade deal with rUK would he struck to maintain the flow of goods, hopefully by the time Scotland was to join the EU rUK would be seriously contemplating/have a trade agreement with the EU that allowed for free trade.
As an Englishman I’d love to see this! Wales and Scotland have their own respective culture! And England is basically independent at this point so what’s holding us back?
@@bigballsbarry4837 if 100% of the people in Scotland voted for and against something it wouldnt matter and would always get overpowered by England so we’d have to go along with them no matter what. They also have the power to overrule anything we do if they see fit. Union of equal my arse.
3.7 million brits voted for the lib dems and the lib dems got ONE seat. 1.2 Million people voted for the SNP and got 48 Seats so do not for one second believe that you are the only ones whose voice is not heard.
As a Welshman, I won't lie and say that Wales becoming an independent nation again _doesn't_ appeal to me. However, the logistics would be a nightmare. Not to mention, my idea of an independent Wales is a far cry from what would likely happen. If I had a choice, an independent Wales would go back to how it was before: we'd bring back a Welsh monarchy, under God, reinflaming the Welsh language and culture all throughout the country, so it is the primary language. Get rid of the foreigners and protect the fragile borders, since we'd now be such a small, vulnerable nation. I can't imagine the people of Wales would be so keen, though. They'd probably do what Scotland is trying to do and rejoin the EU or become a socialist state.
As an Englishman I would be devastated seeing the breakup of the union my ancestors fought for. England pretty much subsidies the UK. For example Scotland could not even join the euro with a 9 billion deficit every year it does not meet the criteria for the currency. Breaking up one of the strongest unions the world has ever seen would be catastrophic for the 3 smaller nations and would be the demise of our global influence.
What global influence? Britain lags behind bpth France and Germany today (with the French fighting all of those wars and having all of those puppets plus the 5th, 6th, or 7th largest economy depending on what you count, and Germany's 4th largest economy). The UK is just the US's lap dog at this point.
@@darthnerd4432 we still have a global influence, granted not was it once was and no where near the US, however we have a seat at the table and I feel that it would just be an unnecessary shot in the foot. London is still one the financial capitals of the world far ahead of anything in Europe. But I understand your point, just myself and many others are very proud of what the union has accomplished over the centuries and we don’t want to see it disappear over petty nationalist politics that’s all
@@fgsaramago they would struggle even getting in the EU as every member state needs to agree to the entry of a country and it’s unlikely Spain would allow as that sends a message to Catalan. Even without that issue, Scotland currently owe Westminster over 100 billion and run at a 9 billion deficit every year and growing. I love the Scottish and want them to stay part of our fantastic union and know many who are as passionate as ever to keep it how it is.
@@msct6214 Totally agree with you, being from Scotland myself I think it would be financially and culturally devastating if Scotland left the UK. We would regret it the second we left. I actually feel sorry for England for putting up with the extra per capita spending on Scottish citizens (especially to those in poorer areas of England who need it). The Scottish Government has done nothing but harass the Scottish people, calling for independence referendums every single year. At this point we just want a government who can properly govern.
The most probable and reasonable scenario is Scotland becoming independent (and joining the EU) and Northern Ireland joining Ireland (and also the EU) Wales is not becoming independent any time soon and it would get no benefits.
@@twmsioncati3277 yeah, getting away from the EU is bad but if England wants to keep Wales close after everyone else has left they better start funding and helping Wales.
Well from my point of view I wouldn’t look at any of us English, Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish lot any differently. After all we still share the same group of islands
@@kamanashiskar9203 the USA be like: if you don't mind we just gonna take the British Virgin island France: QUICK SPAIN TAKE THE ISLAND OF JERSEY Argentina: :D the Falkland is now MINE
Suspect there would need to be a reorganisation at the individual level rather than the divisions. What Scottish soldier serving in an English unit, or English soldier serving in a Scottish unit, wants to suddenly find themselves on the wrong side of the border and serving in a foreign country's military?
@@floridageneral1204 That wouldn’t make sense - since the guards regiments are loyal to Britain and the crown first. The British army would naturally fight against separatist forces and try to protect Britain.
@@33m3c Honestly mate im from Scotland as well, CANZUK would be a great idea. Canada, Australia and New Zealand are our cousins. Would be a great union for sure.
It will happen What Brit Nats fail to realise is their union is a take over of the Celtic nations, by Anglo Saxonia. What they also failed to realise is the EU is a partnership where nations have a say. English / British nationalism has killed the union that never was a union.
@@xander1052 Yeah you're right. Just like how _technically_ Wales and NI aren't countries; they are a principality and a province of the UK, respectively. However the way they function is similar enough to how Scotland and England work so they are all referred to as "countries".
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As a Scot, and IT professional, the most curious question for me is: what would the Internet TLD of an independent Scotland be? We now have .scot, it’s not a country-code TLD but logically it would make sense just to keep that as it’s already in use as a GeoTLD. There is already some precedent, funny enough the .uk TLD isn’t the UK’s actual country code, the actually country-code is GB. More generally though, Scotland’s two-letter ISO-3166 Alpha-2 country code would be a challenging find, every logical two-letter substring of “Scotland” is already in use: sc, so, st, sl; all in use. Some people speculate we might end up with a code based on the Gaelic name for Scotland, Alba: “aa” or “ab” might be the only option there. That is unless we somehow manage to acquire “sc” from Seychelles, “so” from Somalia, “st” from São Tomé and Príncipe, or “sl” from Sierra Leone; But even if we did, the code would have to sit unassigned for 50 or more years, and we’d need something in the meantime, so that seems unlikely.
That`s your major concern???. You from clan McPedant son?. Fuck me, 9 people share your concerns. That`s more than the guy who brought up Nuclear weapons.
@Luke Thomas We'd have to get rid of our nukes which would save us billions, and we wouldn't be subsidising Northern Ireland anymore (the province costs alot of money, it doesn't make profit atm which is why alot of Irish people in the South don't want it back) and we wouldn't have to worry about our neighbours anymore. I'd be happy to see an independent England tbh with you, it would be great, not least because I'm sick of the constant BS and insults from our lovely neighbours.
@@keighlancoe5933 An independent England wouldn't stop any moaning from anyone. The UK loves to "other" a lot, if its not Scotland vs England then its North vs South, if its not that then its something else. The best case for all is to remain United but find a long term constitutional solution that the majority can get behind - not the unsustainable mess that we have at the moment.
@@ruxiist Maybe not, but from thereon they're left to run their own affairs and everything that goes right or wrong is entirely of their own doing and they can blame no-one but themselves (though no doubt even 100 years after their independence they'd probably still be blaming England for something.) I used to feel quite happy being British, I was proud of it and I genuinely liked Scotland and Wales. But then I learned exactly what they think of me. I've been spat on by a Welsh person for having the audacity of being an English person in Wales, and I've taken snapshots of online abuse from Scots aimed at English people, much of which is just vile and largely isn't reciprocated, and if you replaced 'English' with 'Black' in alot of those messages you'd end up in front of a judge in a courtroom. Quite frankly I don't want to be in union with people I feel absolutely no kinship to, who I am slowly beginning to despise.
@@keighlancoe5933 your comment before this is accurate too the tea, I used too concsider myself British but now I think of myself as English, I've lived in Scotland 10 years and English people bashing is constant, I've got too say its never been personal to me but they go on about it all the time, I'd move back to England in a heartbeat, specially with that serpent nicola sturgeon, can't stand the woman. I can't speak on Wales though I have no experience there or Northern Ireland. Funny thing is though I moved back to England for a bit and got a fairly Scottish accent or atleast use some of the slang I've picked up and nobody down south said one bad thing about it then I move back once I'd gained my English accent back and lots of people take the piss and you get loads of sarcey comments. Don't get me wrong I got good Scottish friends but I just get sick of the general Scottish attitude toward England
It's a shame how this is a possibility. Are nations have a long and storied history and breaking are union up would just ruin each of are nations. To all my British homies we must stay United.
@The Leaprachaun personally I believe that Northern Ireland is a key part of the United kingdom and will always be seen as a respected member of it. Also why was this a reply to my comment and not it's own comment?
My idea is after a Irish unification to create a new federation of a united Ireland and Scotland with a population between 12-13 million, will have more people than Belgium or Greece. And at least that federation will stay part of the EU because Ireland are.
If scotland and Ireland united it would form a new country probably which would cause it to leave the eu technically unless scotland just becomes a piece of Ireland they won't auto join the eu.
@@nahdran2918 but what officially happened was east Germany just became part of the west. The government's of Scotland and Ireland would if this happened probably want it to be a unification not an annexation
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IMO if this happened then England would effectively succeed the U.K. taking the current U.K. govt., overseas territories, military (or at least most of it), and security council seat
The military as whole is subject to English Law, and so is already a foreign presence in Scotland. The historic Scottish regiments were mostly abolished, or reduced first to battalion and now company size. They may carry on as mercenaries, in much the same way as the Gurkhas. Regarding the security council seat, while Brexiteers may have delusions of empire, English politicians will have to decide if they can afford to continue, as Douglas Hurd said "punching above our weight" by keeping nuclear weapons and fighting for the US (nominally "NATO") and sundry Arab monarchs. There is also the fictional British Indian Ocean Territory, maintained as a pretence so that the US can hide its spy/torture base on Diego Garcia.
Would England take the UK's seat on the Security Council? The precedents are that the Kuomintang kept China's seat after the communist takeover, until after Nixon recognised the mainland regime, and Russia kept the USSR's. If Scotland left, the "kingdom" would be united for a little time, but not the governments, as during 1603 - 1707. In that era, the army and navy belonged to the crown. If England insisted on holding onto their prized assets, they might find the Scots declined to take on their share of the National Debt. That might well happen: before the last independence referendum there was wild talk in Whitehall of declaring the Scottish nuclear submarine base English territory so that England could hold onto the American warheads. It might be cheaper to send the bombs back to the USA. At some point, "punching above your weight" ceases to make sense.
It never belonged to them. England writes its own history, and every bodies else while they are at it!! The Isle of Man was under Scottish rule,and ruled by Olaf the Black ruler of Man, his son became the founder of the Mac LEODS
I can't understand what you mean by "What if the United Kingdom broke up?" The UK stared breaking up long ago and the first big fissure was in 1922 when the London government recognised the secession of 26 of the 32 counties of Ireland, which became the Irish Free State, going on to become the Republic of Ireland in 1949. It's a slow inexorable process.
I believe a load of english people (including me but I live in asia) are extremely prideful of the former British Empire but I understand Empires are a thing of the past and as for the United Kingdom itself with its current issues, I actually think that maybe desolving the union might eventually work out for everyone, it will hurt and call for a total restructuring of society and economy but Wales could choose its own route, Northern Ireland and Scotland could become EU members while England could go on with the Canzuk proposal to create a new union for new era, even if its just England it is still the home of the queen, a nuclear armed nation and has 7 wonders in London alone, ofcourse Canada or Australia will probably act as the dominant forces of Canzuk due to population alone but i'm okay with that, I'm no expert so don't take me seriously, just a fun thought to consider
Fk the empire. As a welshman we were and still are the filthy English first ever colony. I hope England ends up in civil war and London gets burned to the ground with the royals along with it.
@@henrypernoix1793 Geographically, Yes - politically , No, except that Hong Kong is part of China. NI is part of the island of Ireland, but politically part of the UK. Guernsey, Jersey, Alderney, Sark etc are geographically much closer to France than the UK, but are more or less independent of both (they are properties of the British Crown, and the UK Govt plays a limited role in them, principally international relations).
It's a bit more complicated with the Isle of Man. It is not part of the UK. It is a Crown Dependency and Manx residents are still considered British Citizens. It has also never been a member of the EU.
It's a mistake to assume that Ireland is ready and waiting to accept Northern Ireland. Again and again in private conversation, the issue comes up that Britain props up and pays for NI's economy. It isn't sensible for ROI to take on the cost of NI. Northern Ireland is a money pit.
@@goofygrandlouis6296It did not, to this day east germany is far poorer, more radical, extreamly subsidizded, loosing Population and a complete shithole regarding infrastructure like railway, roads and schools