Does Anyone Really Care if Scotland Leaves the UK? 

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What if the north separated? I mean there’s a party for Northern Independence that’s pretty adamant it’d be a good move, they have some interesting suggestions

Is Great Britain not the island, not the union of Scotland and England?

Your research regarding the beginnings of the political movement for Scottish independence should have gon much further back. The founding of the SNL was merely the first time that the Scottish independence movement advocates separated themselves from the Labour party apparatus. Until that time, political agitators for Scottish home rule had been members of the Labour or Liberal party largely. Robert Bontine Cunninghame-Graham was one of the founders of the Labour party alongside Kier Hardie, and the first openly socialist Member of Parliament in 1886. He has been systematically written out of Labour party history because of his later association with socialism and Scottish nationalism. After the founding of the SNL in 1923, Graham decided to leave the Labour party to help in the founding of the NPS in 1928 and then the SNP in 1932. He is one of the most overlooked important people in history, having been shunted aside in favour of Kier Hardie, a centrist preacher who fit the bill of a public figure far more neatly.

How about 'is there anything actually in the Good Friday Agreement' that prevents a hard border in Northern Ireland. (Clue: no) But we are told that there is. You'd have to read the agreement of course...

Bit of a generalisation. What about Scottish Brexiteers?

Scotland doesn't want to do it. Over half of voters vote for unionist parties. The polls show more favour for remain constantly. Hell, the devolved government in Holyrood KNEW they couldn't hold a referendum as it wasn't a devolved power and still make a big fuss over it. Democracy is pointless if you strong-arm a vote through illegally with less than half of public support until you've indoctrinated kids that come outta their SNP controlled education and vote at 16 enough to sway it.

\Nailed it - bunch of Hypocrites with a capital H

@@rodmarker2071 Scottish Brexiteers are a few right wing nutters that celebrate a British King imported from the Netherlands and still think Catholic people support the pope uneducated bullshit

@@ToastieBRRRN What about this 49% that voted to stay in EU?

Long long overdue. A federal UK :5 national (not 4) Nat Parliaments (England has two: Gtr London is one and then the rest of England has a different one). Nat parliaments are not in the main city (the US State capital idea) - separation of powers. So Dungannon for NI, Inverness for Scot, Aberystwyth for Wales and York for England. Gtr London of course is London- as federal capital. Most govt items are devolved to the 5. Only trans UK matters remain with the UK Fed Govt: currency, Crown and succession, Fed income tax (Nat Parliaments could introduce a Nat income tax), immigration, defence, customs. Commons reduced (now only handling Fed UK matters) to about 200 members. House of Lords- acts as 2nd Chamber to both Nat Parls and to(now) reduced UK Fed Commons.Lords reformed to about 240 (with 6 diff groupings- 40 in each). NatParls nominate 1 group, Co councils another, business another, science/education another, arts and humanities another and finally (6th one) by ballot amongst them, the eligible existing hereditary Lords

This was supposed to happen, I can't remember why it was stopped.

I’d vote for this if it were on the table, but it’s just not going to happen.

Totally agree the English have never been truly represented as a country

Yup, England needs to be controlled by Brussels. Brussels hold the purse strings and limits the growth of the UK, keep England down. Only give it enough for life support, and reap the benefits from its economy. All EU law take precedence over any local English laws. There is NO control over your borders, you do not have a say in how your border is defined. Only Brussels can decide your border policing with their own border force. But most of all, the Isle of Dogs is where all EU nuclear waste is stored.

Funny that as David Cameron also said that if the Tories won a majority in the 2015 general election then he would offer the UK a referendum on Europe? Either duel standards or somebody being economical of the truth..... 🤣

@@garethbuckeridge6910 he's a Tory. Probably just pure bullshit out of him on both occasions, but got forced in to the referendum by the back benchers

A Tory MP telling a lie?

Did he? Well, he was a liar who also persecuted the vulnerable and disabled, and began to destroy the NHS and public services. Why put any trust in this lazy, arrogant and dishonest man?

The English always forget promises.

The question is bigger than your brief summary.

@@wardenblack9734 what ever you say I bet your one of those people who could start a fight in an empty house if the Scottish want to leave they can leave end of story

@@wardenblack9734 it really is not that deep it's a fact that most English people truly could not give 2 shits if Scotland left the UK or stayed in it

Agreed@@kurtpunchesthings2411

And we voted NO in 2014 but they still won't shut up

ach we'll just build a mahoosive big net and string it across the loch. that'll keep Nessie in and the Atlantic prowlers oot!

I'm pro independence, but if there's any argument that could convince me otherwise, this one is the most logical.

Let the Norwegians deal with it

Not but the oil Scottish no English and they can go back EUROPE

Glad u brought that 2 world attention. Nessy would go on a rampage

( mega laughs)

I think we'd see the rise of cartels illegally smuggling Tunnock's products across the border instead of drugs

@@davidlally592 - Depends how much rent the boarder is willing to pay.

Leaving the Boarder aside, I'm sure he pays a fair rent, there is also the Tunnock's Bar to consider. The teacakes are nice but you cant dip them in your tea..

@@mickpowell8503 Wow man, slow down. Lets get a deal on the teacakes and then sort out the bars.

But if 51% of people want to break away and 49% of people don't, is that really "wanting it bad enough" for nation-building to be successful? Because that will be the reality of any independence vote.

@@alexpotts6520 that's not wanting it "bad enough" as of now

​@@antonio.paternostro_01 So you accept that a narrow independence vote would be a pyrrhic victory marking the beginning of a doomed project? Because a narrow win is the only kind of win the nationalists are going to get for the foreseeable future. (And given that conditions right now are ideal, at the fag end of the worst British government that any of us can remember, I don't see where this comfortable pro-independence majority is going to come from.)

@@alexpotts6520 for Brexit it was

@@leonardogregoratti386 For Brexit it obviously wasn't! It was enough to make it *happen* but not enough to make it happen *successfully.*

In nuclear warfare it won't matter if Scotland are a independent country as nuclear fallout doesn't stop at borders.if England gets nuked the Scots,Welsh and Irish are toast as well.

@@martinrye712 Yes, it does. Because the first thing Scotland does when it becomes independent is to get rid of Trident. Precisely because it is independent it can do chose to do so. Furthermore, it makes one hell of a difference if the target of a nuclear attack is just besides a big city (Glasgow).

@@w.vanherk2946 are you really that thick,nuclear fallout will be blown everywhere on the wind so I'm afraid you are talking nonsense

@@martinrye712 well, I would rather call it well informed rather than thick. Survival chances are directly linked to one's proximity to the place of impact. You can read up on it if you like to gain a better understanding if this is an issue of concern to you.

Do you really, REALLY think that places like London, Birmingham and Manchester would NOT be primary targets? Get a GRIP, mate!!

They could probably keep the border open for movement of people. So you can travel across the border without a passport, just as you can between Ireland and Northern Ireland. But yes, goods won't be able to flow freely. There will need to be customs/regulatory checks if Scotland joins the EU and England stays out. Edit - It seems some people have misunderstood me. I'm saying there *will* have to be a hard border, but just for goods. You have to understand that is a separate thing to passport controls. You can have a customs border without passport controls. The EU does not strictly require external borders have passport checks, that's only if the country is part of Schengen. Which several EU members are not, including Ireland.

You should tell the crowd in Westminster about the border, because they think that the border between the EU and Britain should be wide open.

@@Psyk60 But Brexiteers love more paperwork and red tape, they thrive on it, and call it productivity. Brexiteers would just love to put a border around every town in the UK.

they would have to have a hard border, because that's WTO rules. I see a common travel area thing like with Eire. I'll be interested what they do with Nationality - will all those born before separation be entitles to British passports, or will it only be people with an actual English/Welsh/N Irish parent or grandparent. I will be entitled on both counts - I'm Scots, but have an English father and would claim my UK as well as my Scots passport, because I can. I work in England a lot, so dual nationality would be useful. My son can claim his British passport from his grandad, but has said he won't. he's Scottish and doesn't need to be British. I don't identify as English or British, but if i have the right to something, I'll claim it.

A common travel area is not a problem unless the Governments on either side decide to make it one. Trade would require a hard border but Scotland has reached the point where this isn't a good enough argument to sway the Yes voters. Scotland will gladly take the hit.

That is very worrying.

That's more american than a lot of americans nowadays. Nice!

Spot on, the North of England is just as disenfranchised as Scotland and Wales!

@@J14Irish More so. The Scots and Welsh have parliaments. The North has piecemeal devolution instead of regional administrations.

@@paulwild3676 We need to secede!

Are you sure 😂😂 who's oil money you gonna steal who's natural resources you going to use

@@scotthendry6298 funny how you couldn’t decide to phrase this as “England steals from Scotland England is bad Rawr” or “please don’t leave us to economic turmoil 🥺”

Scotland will let you have independence in a heartbeat dear England.

@@ekohfashis2962 it’s not me, it’s you

Not so, didn't you have a vote. Im up for it.British Government will save millions in dole money .​@@ekohfashis2962

Till they realised the loss of jobs that this would result in.

@@donaldboughton8686 I struggle to buy that argument. It’s hugely expensive to renew, maintain and operate just these 5 submarines. Funding that could and would (due to NATOs minimum spending requirements) otherwise be diverted towards more quantities of conventional weapons. If it’s job creation your after better to have an bigger and less specialist personnel

Scotland didn't. The minority government did.

@@donaldboughton8686 Source? Oh yeah that's right you made it up

@@_v_r_tt costs of Trident is nothing compared to building an entire national structure and infrastructure and services from scratch. I would expect the UK to let them have anything easily, just as EU was with UK on Brexit. Then there is the huge risk and costs of Scottish EU membership - by no means a certainty. Trident would look like small beer up against that lot. I hope they stay together btw. My other half is from there😢😢😢

We'll have to buy a tone of new Atlases I suppose 👀 🗺

Creating jobs for more cartographers 🔥

there is still someone who buy phisical maps?🧐

@@fabriziovignati383 I do. They're a fun addition to my walls, I add one for every place I go to

@@fabriziovignati383 Tell me you were born in the 21st century, without telling me you were born in the 21st century...

I couldn't care less either, but as an Englishman living in Scotland I am fucking terrified

Sturgeon doesn’t want to govern Scotland, she wants to rejoin the eu and let them govern Scotland.

@@nomadoma9422 you could immigrate back to england, or stay there and become a scottish citizen

@@nomadoma9422 they arent going to murder you if they get independence 🤣

@@J14Irish why not?.William Wallace would 😅

As a scot, i hope we also stay united as England will do to us what europe done to us both after brexit, and we don't have the systems in place to minimise the effects of leaving and it will no doubt cost us even more financially aswell Scotland and England will be a lot weaker, and it's not like we can snap our fingers and everything will be fixed. Coming to agreements with take years and building the infrastructure/systems will take longer For scotland, we would pretty much have a very small military that we would need to rely on nato heavily, even if we can meet nato requirements. We're struggling to fix the current problems we have due to brexit, so adding more would be illogical

@@weeguy52 Well said. You make a lot of good points

Scotland’s argument is not against the people of England it’s against Westminster.

@@Saffy-yr8vo I guess so

Even if they did, who tf would care? xD

Less than one tenth the population of England.

@@peterkavanagh498 And? So is Norway. Ireland. Jamaica. Denmark. Finland. New Zealand. Uruguay. And a dozen others.

If you see pictures of those countries also you are likely to see them looking quite empty too because they are just that. I expect that if Scotland were ever to break away from the UK then it's population would plummet further as those who want to continue living off English taxpayers as well as talented Scots (like East Germans) flee, in this case south of the border.

@@peterkavanagh498 I don't think anyone would want to live in England now if he wanted to improve his situation.....

@@peterkavanagh498 BS

And the jobs that brings to the area? 8k if this source is to be believed.

@@Scaleyback317 Better with EU. And knowing scots, pissing of Brexiteers is a bonus for them.

If there aren't nukes in your backyard ,then they're likely to land in your house by another power

@@jeckjeck3119 If pissing off people with alternative views is of any great importance over the other problems facing the world in general and the UK in particular then the rest of us are better off without them.

They love the money though, always have, always will.

no they will not

Ireland has a good economy, Scotland has the largest deficit economy in Europe. If Scotland was apart of the EU then the union would have to fund the Scots entirely… something they don’t want to do 😢

​@lordbonney9779 your talking pish and your no bonney😂😂

Alexa pull up Dublin House prices

The pro-socialist body politic in Scotland make it impossible to see a success there the way it happened in Ireland. Oil in the North Sea is not enough to compensate because the oil era is coming to an end.

That's just BS, the majority of oil fields would be in Scottish territorial waters but they would have to nationalise them first which would be really hard to do economically, especially as the world transitions from oil. Funnily enough the vast majority of natural gas reserves are further south in what would be English territorial waters. Natural gas is much cleaner and we use way more of it. I'm not saying this as a unionist, Im for giving scotland another referendum and letting them decide. but please stop with this horsehit that every problem will be fixed if you choose to leave and that Scotland will be a rich utopia because it definitely won't be.

@@Mmjk_12 he's not saying we'd be mega rich, he's saying we'd do better than people give us credit for, many act like we'd end up as a third world country that would perish and die without our oh so benevolent English dictators

@@Mmjk_12 what he stated didn't say anything about Scotland becoming much richer than England/UK, or even being a "rich" country. He just stated a richer one in the terms than some people think think. Some believe if Scotland got their independence it would turn Scotland into a complete disaster, even a 3rd world country. The fact is there are resources that come from there and the region around it. If Scotland did get it's independence back, it wouldn't be a country like Japan without actual no resources/minerals. That is all, richer than some believe, especially those who think it would be a complete failure.

Interestingly incorrect. Most of the oil fields are in English national waters by quirk of the way borders are worked out. A mistake often made by nationalists. As for fish they move around my old fruit and nearly all of Scotlands exports go to or through the UK via the channel tunnel. Your also assuming by the way the whole of Scotland wants to leave. Alot of it might choose to stay in the UK.

A typical pro-Scot misconception. Scotland relies on considerable funding from England for everything from its nhs and education to military support. Scotland could not join the EU independently because it doesn’t have the qualifying GDP.

A newly independent Scotland won't be able to join the EU as it will not meet the fiscal requirements in the Copenhagen Criteria; and that's not even considering countries like Spain that have their own problems with break-away states will veto the application anyway.

Very true and well put. Plus do not forget we Englanders will insist on it, if that is the border remains open at all.

@@saxon-mt5by I don't think Spain or so will cause a problem. Scotland would leave a country that left the EU and then just asked to rejoin. This would be completely different to a region seperating from an EU country and trying to get back in. In the former scenario I don't expect too much fuss, in the later the new country would be blocked by several EU members.

@@saxon-mt5by No, but it can get there. Other nations have.

You can just drive from Ireland to Northern Ireland. There is no border infrastructure, just road signs and mph instead of kmph. You haven't a clue.

If UK Gov got rid of Barnett Formula, you'd be toast, if Scotland is independent who will pay for their 12% deficit, not the English I tell you that

@@Garner84 barnett formula has been proven to be nonsense numerous times. Take the cost of trident away, the full income from north sea and include all scottish goods which go to the continent as scottish exports and not english and that deficit doesnt look anywhere near as large

You’ll survive better on your own. The English are treating you like a housewife and gaslighting you into believing you have no marketable skills, no job prospects, no sense of how to run a household, etc. Sure, you might have to give up some pretty baubles, but it’s better than being in an abusive relationship.

@Brenden Mcmillan you wouldn't get the North Sea oil income for a start and the barnet formula is the DEFAULT absent 'good reason' for it to be otherwise and there have been some amazing incidents where something only affecting England has led to mo ey being sent to Scotland because of it. the Student Loans lawsuit that forced more funding to go to Scotland because English Students were being charged being an awesome one. As for Trident, are you costing the fact that you will lose the funding and influx of people form the bases? Scotland leaving the UK would benefit England and fuck Scotland.

An independent Scotland, Wales and NI wouldn't have a deficit. Yiu can't be im debt if you can't borrow.

I agree, I would take the hit for a better tomorrow in Scotland. I am already taking the hit fr what looks like a continually worsening future thanks to BrekShit England.

Would suck for my generation as well, there’s little benefits to it. You don’t owe us anything. We made the correct choice in 2014.

@@jamestyler12JT there are TONS of reasons independence is a good thing but I'm sure your baiting so

@@thebritishtwat1317 there are admittedly some reasons but the negatives far outweigh the positives

I owe the younger generation nothing They don't even know wt gender they are now😂

@@daemon5583 Brexit put they to rest! Scotland was completely ignored and marginalised. Northern Ireland who votes remain was given all the things Scotland asked for if indeed England decided to force us out. We have never been more divided and forced governments picked by English voters and imposed on Scotland is unsustainable!

I hope Scotland goes independent with all my heart, but it's disconcerting to see the Daily Heil equating Sturgeon's resignation with her 'dreams of independence' lying in 'tatters'. Don't let it be true. Rise and be a nation again.

@@daemon5583 your country is governed by a government that your countries voters have rejected since 1955! Your country was forces out of the eu against her will and has policies see utterly rejected imposed upon her! Hardly democratic is it !

@@daemon5583 you might disagree with the snp but the majority of Scotland agrees that’s democracy! But I certainly can’t stand having policies from a government elected by another country forces upon my country !

@@daemon5583 there is higher spending in Scotland because of its rural nature which requires higher spending. But as a whole Scotland produces more tax than anywhere in the uk apart from the south east of England so we more than pay our way! As for the snp implementation of policies they won the election on a manifesto endorsed by Scottish voters and therefore have every right to implement them!

good thing global polotics doesn't give a shit if it's fair

the problem is that feelings within Scotland are very divided, as was shown by the results of the 2014 referendum. From both sides of the debate what we hear is far more often rhetoric rather than actual facts which would allow voters to make an educated decision. Knowing where to go for reliable, relatively impartial information is increasingly difficult.

@evelynwilson1566 I think it would be far worse for Scotland to leave the UK than the EU. Just look at the figures of people and goods coming into Scotland from the EU (pre Brexit) versus people and goods coming to and from the UK. Scotland is it's own country with it's own culture and history and government but in terms of travel and trade and social interaction Scotland, England and Wales have essentially functioned as 1 country for hundreds of years. It would be like Yorkshire or Greater London declaring independence from the UK

@@kityhawk2000 Scotland isn't a country, also leaving the UK would mean an end for scotland, they don't have a chance to join NATO, and they can't join the EU, so they're pretty fucked

I am a Scott Protestant been living in England for 60 years when I was there they always used to say Home role means Rome. England and Scotland through the centuries have done a lot together and brought a lot to the world don’t take notice of the black Africans. They should never Break up.

I would also hide my face forever if I designed something so atrocious.

I personally think and you'll find many other Edinburghers agree that Scottish parliament is one of the ugliest building in Edinburgh

Unsurprisingly he died of a brain tumour and it certainly looks like that tumour did most of the design work on that monstrosity

Miralles? Is that a Catalan name by any chance?

Just looked it up. Whattya know? The guy was from Barcelona ...

The older you get the more conservative you become

@@thor.halsli A trend that millennials and and gen z (so 42-9 year olds) are breaking. Millenials at young voting ages of 18-25 were more conservative than they are 17 years later

@@thor.halsliThe millennial generation has shown a trend that will buck this tradition.

"Waiting for the wrinklies to die" isn't much of a political strategy.The proportions pro and anti independence haven't changed in 10 years, so there isn't a flood of younger radical voters.

No it didn't, your country suppressed secessionists violently

Actually the U.S. suppressed a human trafficking ring seeking to continue an economy of rich freeloaders getting labor without paying for it. I regret that it couldn’t be done without violence, but have no regrets about ending slavery.

@@jdlc903 Did those secessionists write a letter to Washington that began with "When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary..."?

They would respond by showing you the polling results which consistently show 'No' to the question of independence.

@@gg-ps1vz Of course in 1776, when the U.S. declared independence, only about 1/3 of the colonists favored it.

Alexandra Roberts why are y saying that

It's not been fair to England, I agree. Time for English Independence!

@@DavidWildgoose Then why don't you, oh right your government won't allow it because they need the votes from unionists to stay in power don't they and labour wouldn't seek it either for the same reason because at the end of the day labour are no different than the tories in that respect it's all about having power and lording it over everybody else so you are stuck with Scotland forever weather you like it or not unless the English people chose to do some thing about it they have already said no to Scotland so If you want your Independence from Scotland I suggest you get properly motivated there are more people in England than in Scotland balls in your court as it were otherwise tough luck cause neither the tories or labour want it as it's not in their best Interests to do so same with PR that's not in their Interest either good luck your gong to need it.

exactly, and the reunification of Ireland would put these two nations of equal foot with England. The old empire has to die.

Not only this, but Ireland is still part of the common travel area with the UK. Even though opponents day that this would not apply to an independent Scotland.

@@1coleman8 Ireland is part of the Common Travel Area due to the occupation of the North & so England could continue to have white english speaking cheap workers. If England and Wales wants to punish Scotland for leaving the UK, possibly kicking Scotland out of the Comon Travel Area would be one way. The UK partitioned Ireland as a "punishment" for leaving, this is way the brits talking about the EU Punishing them with border checks and not allowing the uk in the Horizon Project & other such strange comments.

@@roryoneill9444 the UK didn't punish Ireland for leaving not all of Ireland wanted to leave which wasn't always the case until the ira went after the orange lodge

@@Grundewalt how would ireland afford reunification with a housing crisis and immigration issues , ireland was bankrupt and bailed out by EU mainly Britain and Germany in the 90s, besides do you think Spain would vote for an independent Scotland joining EU when regions like catalonia and basque country want their own independence in Spain 🤔

>to see them go I'm pretty sure scotlands not gonna move continent or anything, there just there, minus the Westminster shite

@@comradekenobi6908 Though tbh if you gave us enough shovels we'd give it a go..

Well we're worse off being part of the union so i don't know what you want us to do

@@oshul_ yeah unless they have something to offer other than upcoming recession and declining quality of life, eh

The United Kingdom is not a country

I believe spain said it would not veto eu membership as long as Scotland gets consent from Westminster to leave, unlike Catalòinia which tried to get independence unilaterally.

Correct assumption but wrong reason. Our government doesn't currently meet the financial criteria that ascension states must adhere to in terms of the government deficit to GDP in order to join.

Even if Scotland was granted eu membership eventually it typically takes numerous years after applying to actually become a member and in that whole unspecified time Scotland would be outside both the UK and the EU at the same time and do serious damage to its economy.

@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 yes i admit that is a possibly, and im willing to take the hit, i also understand others are not and are free to vote how they like. i'll vote yes if before the next referendum the uk has not implament 5 policies which are: 1. PR voting (which scotland already has with the alternative vote) 2. A written Constitution, the scottish parliament does not have the same lengthy history as Westminster and therfore unlikely to use a unwriten Constitution based on a few documents and convention 3. Abolish the house of lords, the scottish parliament has no house of lords and is unlikely to in an independent scotland. 4. Make the uk a Federation with state rights, with the devolved system Westminster can take away devolution any time it sees fit. 5. Rejoin or in the process of rejoning the eu.

@@Ruiseal The UK will never rejoin the EU, not only do many citizens still not support it, but the EU themselves will never allow it. The EU wont allow themselves to just become a club where people can join and leave and rejoin whenever convinient

No its not. Ireland is like any other western country. Its far from "thriving". Have you seen the protests and constant troubles with economic crisis and housing, health etc?

Ireland was thrown into decades of economic crises after independence. Post WW2 they were almost totally bankrupt

Irelands GDP is 10% actual GDP and 90% from being a tax haven.

@@frosty_soda constant protests? You mean in northern Ireland that was forced to leave eu too and u were forced to make a border with piece of land u own ? Buddy no one believes your lies biggest trade union is better than being sanctioned by your own supposed ally lol 😆

@@frazer4123 Due to brexit like cultural, political and economic isolation and attempts to become self sufficient all the while being tied to the pound the Irish economy stagnated post independence. Once Ireland liberalized its economy and joined the EEC, it went from one of the poorest nations in Europe to one of the most prosperous meanwhile Yorkshire, parts of Scotland, NorthernIreland, parts of Wales are among the poorest areas of Western Europe while London the richest.

That was the law that was agreed as part of the creation of the Scottish Parliament. It must be by mutual consent. In the case of Europe we agreed to the Lisbon treaty that outlined those rules.

@@04nbod Doesn't sound very good for the Scots. Their consent is nor required, nor wanted for anything important. the English wouldn't stand for this system for a day.

The EU is a collective of countries looking out for others interests, not a kingdom.

i wish the eu told england they're not allowed to vote on leaving the eu

You obviously hate the english and are an immature loud mouth who knows nothing about history, we english are happy for the scots to go if that is what they want ,good luck to them

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@@fundorgon Yes I know. The purpose of saying "did you know" is to try to create interest out of nothing. He didn't actually think anyone was interested. He was being 100% fake.

He mentioned that in the vid.

As someone living close to Faslane Id prefer if they stuck the nuclear base on the Thames quicker the better if Putin goes ape shit or Biden thinks he's in a movie

We don't want trident

@Alexei Smirnoff Yeah professor Mark Blyth from Brown university made a similar comment ie rent it out but in a democracy Id put it to a vote if you want nuclear warheads next to yer big cities?

Or you could stick a timer on it and send it to Westminster Mr V

Exactly. Most days we run ~80% wind, 10% hydro and the rest nuclear.

@@WiggyB And that will only increase. And I'm sure EU would welcome Scotland in EU... just to piss off UK;)

It doesn't though, those numbers were total BS, MSP's have issued apologies for using such false numbers and past documents are being amended. The real number is somewhere around 4%.

that's not enough to become sustainable

@@WiggyB If you could only harness the power of midges you'd have a surplice.

Well might be well balanced but not well evidenced. No consideration fir the well of energy resources in Scotland, the exponential grown in off shore wi d farm technology, hydro plants. Currently Scotland supplies sizeable amounts of English energy, England is short of water and is keen to get it from Scotland and wales, this would be at a price. The nuclear ports and trident in Scotland, may require a 10 year rental period from Scotland. This won’t be inexpensive either. I can see why English parliaments don’t want it, it will be hugely financially impactful. Rejoining EU may be expensive but all the above funding will assist, there is a €20bn accession fund, some of it could help us; but the pay off for Scot’s will be huge, we are surrounded by EU countries and we have strong historic trading links with Nordic countries. So gaps in the film I would say

No, it’s not. But then again, I’m Scottish.

I think the UK should just federalise into it’s different regions. Could even name them after some of the Anglo Saxon kingdoms that share similar borders and use those flags

@@veggiesupreme3556 wtf why? Was this a joke?

@@veggiesupreme3556 Like Spain or Germany? I wouldn't mind if the taxes were different but laws should be unanimous. For example during the pandemic each nation having separate covid policy was a right faff, especially for bordering communities.

@@maxdavis7722 no I actually think the UK before devolution was fine but at this point federalisation would be the only way to satisfy the Scots, Welsh and northern Irish as well as smaller independent movements such as Yorkshire or the north as a whole or Cornwall while also being fair to the English outside of London who are currently the only ones without devolution

@@veggiesupreme3556 I’m English and I don’t want devolution. It’s irritating that we are the only ones not to get it but it would spur on nationalism and secession movements. I don’t think that caving in to every minority secessionist movement is the right idea tho.

Norway and the rest of the EFTA would accept them in a second. Then they can start the membership application.

@@Cl0ckcl0ck And it would piss off Brexiteers, that alone is enough of a reason to accept Scotland.

"mE, fEeLiNg MoRe EuRoPeAn zÄn tScHöRmAn" Ach du Scheiße...

@@Tobi-ln9xr na was für ein Glück das ich nicht so rede du Holzkopf 🙂

@@teutonicheart2532 it's so sad and cringeworthy to see Germans being embarrassed of who they are despite not even being around during WW2

AND REMOVE YOUR 4 NUCLEAR SUBS ,ONLY ONE ON PATROL AS OTHER 3 ON MANTENANCE ,ALSO YOUR STOCKS OF NUCLEAR WARHEADS AND NUCLEAR WASTE BEING DUMPED IN SCOTLAND ! ALBA GU BRATH

Fook that. They're traitors to Britain.

Wish we were allowed to decide for ourselves

@@salientsolution5436 in my adult life, I've had two votes of independence.

@@John1873-- if nothing has changed for you since 2014, then I congratulate you on your immense privilege. The rest of us have a cost of living crisis and the ramifications of brexit to deal with.

@@salientsolution5436 right, you might like to create narratives to suit your agenda.... But I'm done caring for that sort of behaviour.

People will never live in harmony and peace. Never have, never will.

We were united when in the EU, now us Scots have been forced out of that by the English. Many of us would rather have a union with Europe as opposed to England. Scots are generally a progressive bunch and we seek to leave the UK, not to flag wave and look inwards, but to determine our own future and build relationships with friends who respect us. We are not respected by Westminster. We wish the power to look outwards and rejoin and as you say 'come together' with old friends.

But Scotland is part of great Britain it's a bit different from other countries wantingvto be independent we are one island. Indontbagreevwith independence for Scotland at all

@@addermoth don't mind UK.governmemt giving y money though we are great Britain and should stay that way

I live in London but my Mum's side of the family are Scottish. I completely believe that the Scottish people have a right to self determination and I emotionally get why they want to separate from the current Tory hellscape of the UK. None of those feelings change just how uphill the economic challenge of independence will be. Also if we look at the damage that Brexit did in terms of dividing the UK population, the sheer scale of the chasm that pulling roughly half of your population out of a union which financially benefits causes, I think it's worth carefully considering how much weight those emotions should be given.

@@user-mt6hr4qf9n also being tied to a sinking ship should be given careful consideration. There’s plenty of small countries in Europe which have split from bigger unions (Czechia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Croatia, etc.) which have fewer resources than Scotland yet are thriving.

​@@pansepot1490 It's an interesting point. All the countries you mention came from dissolved unions though rather than leaving a large one. That being said, before Scotland is a full member of the EU am I right in thinking that trade could be relatively frictionless between Scotland and the remains of the UK? Don't get me wrong, I get the excitement for independence, and I have a vested interest in it to get an EU passport from it, I just worry that they're promising sunlit uplands and I know how that's gone with Brexit.

@@user-mt6hr4qf9n no you would be wrong in thinking that , don't know where you get your info from . You don't know much about Scotland at all I hear a lot o the project fear scpheel coming from you ie stuff you hear in the media. How small you think Scotland is that it doesn't have any Port's? why would trade be frictionless we the neighbours that just disnae make sence. 🤔

​@@jayne7111 You're full of the kind of bitterness I'm worried about. My comment was polite and open, you're angry with me about it. That's what I mean when I say it reminds me of Brexit - you sound like the Ukippers

I have to travel from Scotland for cancer treatment in London because NHS Scotland has No Money for the correct treatment. 👀

​@@perarduaadastra873 I'm sorry to hear that, NHS Scotland is far from brilliant. I once had a dentist torturously apply so much pressure when trying to remove my tooth that he split it into four and the NHS refused to remove the shards of tooth from my gum within a year, so I had to go private. It's far from great and they don't always give you what you need.

Plus: the Barnett formula? Even it's creator admitted it's not fit for purpose. Scotland is underpaid.

@@perarduaadastra873 It must be very specialised care as Scotland's NHS is better funded than england. It is also higher performing.

@@doreenhollywood7459 Scotland only has Radical Treatments for Prostate Cancer. Radical treatments cause needless harm when used at an early stage of detection where “Focal Treatments” are the best and correct treatment. I am surprised NHS Scotland does not have a Class Action Lawsuit from all the men needlessly harmed by radical treatment.

a good 25% of me as an Englishman agrees with you

They wouldn't be able to survive on their own with no oil, no £75bn from the Scots and especially with all the gimmiegrunts landing in rubber boats...

@@lolaminnit it is absolute madness to think England couldn't survive alone. It'd thrive. Scotland takes more than it provides from England

@@ProfessorArcanum Then let's see it, son.

@@NotoriousEKB England has no capability nor majority support for independence. Despite popular opinion on independence-centric media, the English public are happy to provide to support the other nations within the United Kingdom. You'll see it, son, when and if those nations finally decide to break away. And a sad day it'll be.

So true

Yes. Your Grampa wanted Reunification through invasion right? Then the Americans and the UN intervened and pushed your gramps back.

@@Justin-ui5tiagree. Poor usa could not help pakistan commit genocide in Bangladesh. Soviet union stoped them.

@@Justin-ui5tidon’t be sad you still got to implement Jim crow long enough and also bomb laos.

@@Myanmartiger921 What the heck are you even talking about? Are we going into crazy talk? All right. My turn. Are you drunk on bloody Russian rum fermented with Putin’s bloody boot?

Currency is not a problem. Scotland will have its own Reserve Bank. It has more than enough resources. On GMS n EU official was asked this very question and her answer was "Don't think that that (currency) would be a major issue". Pretty plain. As for the time taken she also replied "Everyone would do their utmost"! It is an unprecedented situation that an exEU citizens wish to rejoin. It could just be just as simple as a rubber stamping exercise. We will only know when it happens. In the meantime EFTA on day one. Scotland would love to have the access that NI has curtosy of the NI Protocol to the EU single market. It would also wish to retain the Freedom Of Movement as this is an economic boon. It was also needs the FOM for many of the public services. Such as the SNHS and Care Homes, farming etc. rUK and Scots citizens moving across a border Scotland/England is not a problem. Just carry some ID like a passport just like the Swiss/EU member states borders. This alleviates your Macedonia worries.

Scotland does like 60% of its trade with the rest of the UK, the Scottish economy is quite intertwined with the UK economy.

According to data from the Scottish government, they have a spending deficit of 12.3%, meaning they spend almost £24 billion more each year than they take in tax.

@@AmisThysia My understanding is that Scotland would have to adopt the Euro as a condition of its joining the EU (assuming it was approved - Spain particularly would see what that would mean for its own National integrity with Catalonia). This would create added problems to trade with the remaining parts of the UK. It's not an easy solution at all but it's offered a strange inverse of Brexit: Brexiters, on the whole, are against independence for Scotland but they can't articulate "don't go independent, look what a divisive disaster Brexit was" and for those remainers among the supporters of independence, it's difficult to make the argument that huge economic prices are worth it for a principle when they've seen such carnage from Brexit. I suspect that Independence is quite a way off for the foreseeable future.

It's the principle dear boy! Even if the Scots are worse off in the short term, they will rejoin the EU and beat the English financially.

@@trevordaviesable True, we have all the resources we need to be a successful country. We have plenty of fresh water, unlike england, we have windpower generating electricity, some of which we supply to england, we have oil and gas. England trades some of our products to the rest of the world under uk. We will be INDEPENDENT

Yes… and when Ireland became independent, Britain was its biggest trading partner too and Ireland was extremely poor. No reason why Scotland’s economy can’t flourish also and find new niches or markets after Indy alongside trading with rUK.

@@graemedoctor7266 You’re absolutely right! 😄

I'd add to that that Scotland would most definitely not be less well protected without the UK. It has been shown that this is yet another area in which Scotland pays far more into the pot than she gains from it. The Royal Navy don't even keep ships in the area to protect the North Sea oil fields. How long did it take them to get something up here the last time the Russians sailed into our territorial waters?

@@jamesfleming1710 I think you make a very good point. Also, Scotland would hold lots of cards when it comes to naval matters too. This is because it forms part of the GIUK stretch of water that blocks Russian ships from being able to sail out to sea without passing international waters. This is a very strategic position to hold and would stand Scotland in good stead whatever our defence policy post-independence.

@@graemedoctor7266 the difference is Scotland isnt built like Ireland is it doesn’t have the capacity like Ireland did the economy of Scotland relies heavily on Uk as a whole the best way forward for Scotland and for for the rest of the Uk is to seek a Swiss style deal with the EU to access the European Market with certain agreement akin to Switzerland Norway Iceland whilst pursuing trade deals with other countries like US Canada etc.

Excellent comment honestly

"I look forward to the day that the Saltire flies alongside every other UN member, with all the privileges and responsibilities that acknowledged nationhood brings." Well said. I look forward to that day to.

You’re not naive, it’s the future. If we don’t keep voting for the main Independence party we will be subsumed by the extreme right wing policies of Farage and Co. It’s happening already. Whether or not back into EU for Scotland, we have to break from the UK. The tories have stamped on their own and a revolution from the pro brexit duped underclass might be all England has to save its own neck.

Which would only serve England, as it has a 2 and a half trillion pound economy. London, The South East and The North West, all have bigger economies than Scotland.

@@paulwild3676 How's that economy going to function without all the resources? Your 'natural' only industry is banking.

@@NotoriousEKB You have a point.

In your dreams. We are sovereign, it's in our dna.

He explained why - The referendum required a supermajority.

representation? you mean independence?

It was almost 2 thirds…

Scotland already has representation in the Westminster Parliament and has more Members of Parlaiment than, strictly, its population would suggest is appropriate - some of the constituencies have really tiny populations yet they still have one Westminster MP. Scotland also has its own Parliament which sits in Edinburgh, and control over education, health and transport issues. So, to that extent, it has representation. The population of Scotland is about the same at that of Yorkshire, is less than Lancashire and massively less than London (London also voted to Remain in the EU, like Scotland but, because it is part of the UK, it is stuck with the result voted for by the majority in the country as a whole). There might be a number of issues if Scottish independence were to happen. 1. What if areas like the Orkneys or Shetland were to want to stay within the UK? Shetland, in particular, with its oil and fishing areas, might possibly prefer to have a navy to protect it. 2. Areas like the lowlands (Berwickshire, towns like Kelso, Peeebles, Galashiels, Hawick, Annan etc) have economies veery closely linked to England which lies directly to their south; people living near Berwick are likely to do major shopping expeditions in Newccastle and Gateshead on Tyneside rather than go up to Edinburgh, just as people near Annan, Dumfries etc are likely to do similar large shops in Carlisle at least as much as going up to Glasgow/Clydeside. 3. If Scotland were to be independent from the rest of the UK, I imagine it would be impossible for rUK to have its navy ships built in Scotland (I imagine contracts will be awarded to Barrow in Furness or to Portsmouth, as no Defence Minister or local MP could be expected to export jobs to the detriment of the people who might vote in rUK elections). There would be a loss of skilled jobs to Scotland and a loss of the ancillary jobs tied to them, therefore damaging the local economy. 4. If Scotland were to rejoin the EU: - There would inevitably have to be a "hard border" at Berwick/Carlisle. - As a percentage of its economy Scotland does a much higher percentage of its trade with the rest of the UK than rUK ever did of its eceonomy with the EU. England alone (being more than 10 times the population of Scotland and even more than that in terms of the size of its economy) is the biggest export destination and importer of Scottish goods. - If Scotland were independent there would be a massive exodus of companies, especially financial businesses. By way of example, when the Royal Bank of Scotland came to the brink of collapse in 2008, the Scottish economy could not possibly have saved it (the Bank of England and the UK Treasury came to its rescue) as the RBS liabilities dwarfed the total Scottish economy. - What currency would a newly-independent Scotland use before it was able to join the EU and embrace the Euro? Who would "back" that currency? What about people who already hold mortgages in pounds Sterling? If they used the £, Scotland would be in the position of using a currency without having any say in financial decisions that might effect the value of that currency because, of course, those decisions would be taken in London. - If they were to join the EU, what conditions would the EU make for that rejoining? The size of Scottish Budget deficits? Contributions to the EU budgets? - How big a voice would Scotland have in the EU? Obviously in the recent past we have a Scots Prime Minister (Gordon Brown), a Scots educated PM (Tony Blair) and many high-ranking UK cabinet ministers and holders of the significant UK Offices of State. I suspect there will be a long wait before any such senior positions in Brussels are held by Scots. Does this represent the view of a bitter Englishman? NO, surprisingly, though I do hear many voices saying that "if they want to go, let's just get shot of them and save money!" I was born and live in Yorkshire yet my family were all born in Wales. My wife, and all or her family were born in Scotland and she is the only one whose permanent home is outside Scotland. We visit regularly her sister and brother in law in the North West Highlands (twice so far this year and it would be more than than that, but for health reasons). I love Scotland as part of the UK and where I visit, people find Edinburgh as remote and "out of touch" as Westminster is. Maybe SOME influential people in the Central Belt think that Independence would be the answer to all their problems but that would be the start of so many other problems and issues. The UK has been the most successful political and economic union the world has seen so far, and has lasted centuries so concern that a decade or two of problems is only the blink of an eye. When it's broken, you won't be able to repair it.... so leave it be. -

@@NewPaulActs17 they're talking about the 1979 referendum. The first referendum asking to establish a Scottish Parliament. It passed a majority but not enough people voted.

Or Warhammer 40K subs or views...

What is rUK?

You will be very welcome. We have many neighbours who have moved here from england for a better life

I'm leaving Scotland next year. An independent Scotland would become a scary place. Totally dominated by a sociopolitical groupthink that doesn't brook disagreement well. I have a team here of Engineers. All bar two are working exclusively on English jobs, including HS2. No British market no jobs, bye bye team.

@@nmdale78 If we don't get INDEPENDENCE, I will be leaving too and going to live in France Germany or Spain. I am at heart, Scottish European, but never british

@@doreenhollywood7459 the independence mindset is weird. You ARE a child of Britain. Your ancestors presumably have been here for hundreds of years and helped create Britain. Yet you somehow identify with a culture (as tho there's only one) that we've only been tangentially related to for 40years and usually only when visiting for holidays, that presumably your parents had little to no input in forming and which you personally, presumably, have had no intimate experience of or responsibility for funding and shaping. What does it even mean to be Scottish and European and not British...it is a practical impossibility. Many of the democratic institutions of the EU were pushed for by Britain as well as the declaration of human rights etc. and GB was a key balance in the EU for four decades. Anyone who is Scottish is intrinsically British, it is not as though most Scots (and the stats prove this) have a significantly different perspective or value system from the wider UK. Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen, Shetland have been particular beneficiaries of being members of GB and have shaped the union in a disproportionate way. Like Scots generally, who've had disproportionate influence on the politics and direction of the UK...how many Yorkshire folk can you name who were PM or educated in Yorkshire, tho it has a similar population size? I was in a pub in Edinburgh at the weekend a bunch of guys from the Netherlands were there having been on a golfing holiday. They were enjoying some food and watching the F1 and having a great time. One came over to me and my kids and said how they loved the place, loved Edinburgh and how this was a distinctively British thing...the best place in the world he said (I think referring to Edinburgh) I thought it a little OTT but maybe, he was just happy and had a few. His experience tho was of a holiday environment. In those times the grass is always very green on the other side. I get the instinct for greater democratic accountability and local decision making and I would like to see a more federalised system here...but that is directly in contradiction with the centralising urge of the SNP and to some extent the other two. Politically France is far more centralised than the UK and power resides almost exclusively in Paris, surely this is a democratic system you'd be appalled by? And an independent Scotland in the EU would have significantly less influence with such a small population than it does in the wider UK. Scotland would have to accept the Euro on joining (there are no opt outs now) losing nearly all say in monetary policy. In terms of influence and sovereignty I don't see how Scotland can improve on the influential position it already enjoys. Economically I don't see how creating a border with the wider UK would benefit especially since the EU has always been a smallish fraction of Scottish trade. Socially Scots already have more in common with the wider UK than people admit and more than say.. Bavaria or Pomarania. This is why I find it weird. If people argued from a purist, position noting a loss of influence but greater autonomy ok. But arguments like I'm Scottish and European just don't make sense to me because it seems like a complete fiction based on a grass is always greener on the other side mentality. You obviously have the right to believe this and agitate for it..but do you think other EU countries would be as accommodating of such an indepdence movement as the wider UK, I think we can see the answer to that in current affairs and history. So, you want to embrace a system that is far less disposed to the political landscape you want than the one you already reside in? When was the last time the EU devolved powers...it can't. A responsibility once ceded to the EU cannot be returned. So how does this compare to a political system which devolved governmental responsibilities and tax raising powers to Scotland and would certainly give more if pressed.... Just asking. As I say I get the urge for greater autonomy just not the independence movement as it's portrayed, which seems to me inherently self contradictory and grounded in the fiction of Brave heart more than reality.

No you would not, if you wanted to leave. you would have done so already. while you are free to live anywhere in the UK, why wait for them to leave? why not now?? huh? as trying trying to move to Scotland after they leave will be harder, as you lose your right to live there which is defaulted to you are a UK citizen, Scotland leaves that right is then ONLY for the remaining UK not Scotland as well you know full well you would not leave.

And I remember when Donald Dewar ( the father of the parliament) said it would only cost £20 million - a bit like the ferry fiasco and many, many more SNP financial disasters.

It was big news at the time.

That's because Switzerland is in Schengen, the passage of people is unrestricted.

WRONG! A hard border would be put in place... this has been pointed out ad nauseam.

@@DFMSelfprotection The Romans were the last to try and build a hard border between Scotland and England. Irish independence from England led to the Common Travel Arrangement (CTA) and Scottish independence will lead to the same arrangement. The idea that England and Scotland will spend millions on a border when the alternative of a CTA is staring them in the face is ridiculous.

​​@@familiecoleAre you sure about that? The CTA only benefitted Ireland and has been of no benefit to the English at all. I don't think England will make that mistake again. And where would the border be? At Scotlands traditional boundary or north of the pro-Union border counties? Scottish independence is dependent on the idea that the English hate the Scots, but somehow the English will blow smoke up your backsides when you leave, and that furthermore we will continue to do so for generations.

Don't think the Scottish government much care what the Shetlands want.

@@Delogros Ironic

Yes

Nick I don't understand y. We are great Britain the UK. Whybdo y think y will be better independent don't believe all the SNP tell y

@@tenniskinsella7768 you voted to leave now be alone

@@tenniskinsella7768 No it's a dictatorship, and Scotland will do far better not attached to a vile neighbour. Go make England great again on your own. bye

Sin e dìreach!

If you were a "Scottsman"???? whit's that then????

Fuckin wild lad man I forgot Gaelic is still used

@@rue2229 my point exactly.

Or: if I were a Scotsman I'd Google "Scots Gaelic" so I could pretend to a history I don't have.

Happily

The SNP are not communists. To infer they are feeds into the same bullshit right wing lies aimed at people like Bernie Sanders.

@@anthonyscarborough3813 With central banks and top-down currency planning, social democrats (whether in the form of a conservative, or progressive) vitiate economies & societies. Their fatal conceit is to think they can legislate morality and economic policies for all competing psychographic groups.

Through central bank control and currency planning from above, social democrats (whether conservatives or progressives) vitiate economies and societies. A fatal flaw in their thinking is the belief that they can legislate morality and economic policies for all the competing psychographic groups.

Scotland was sold out by its nobles your full of crap it's was the upper class all to save themselves they sold Scotland to England and the people never got a say on the matter Edinburgh almost got burnt to the ground in 1707 because of the upper class so the English better wacth out for there lot as they are ripping England to pieces no wonder it's a shithole heavy in debt and dragging everyone else down with them Scotland has a choice go down with dead England or take a chance solo.

Well, given that being associated with UK is clearly detrimental to Scotland, I'll quite happily use the Euro if we rejoin the EU.

@@zoe-janesutherland4359 except you won’t be able to, and that’s as of now, let alone if you left the Union.

Nevertheless I agree with the OP, if Scotland want independence, sure, but they should leave permanently, and have all UK benefits dropped immediately. I think NI might try the same thing, or wales. Oh well I guess, back just just being English.

Yawn, well please ensure the door is closed firmly behind you when you go. Whilst wishing you well 'afore ye go', have to admit I can't wait to watch the Circus unfold once you have to fund for your own social services and economy. Come on Nicola rouse those moronic England haters to swap the freedom from the UK for the freedom of Brussels.

@@updistant Aww there's always a bitter wee southerner like you isn't there? It's cute. Just wait until you don't have access to Scotland's tax revenues, oil, clean water, electricity, exports and other natural and strategic military resources. Thanks for the well wishes!

That's rubbish both parliaments had a say in the union both parliaments should have a say in breaking it. Since we vote for MPs in parliament then it is our business

@@pcvn214 Why should it be any of your business if you live in England? It has nothing to do with you except you wanting to lord it over everyone else. The empire is over, mate. Get with the programme.

@@pastlesandfish because it was both that decided to join it should be both decide if they break. Personally I don't give a toss I just find it interesting that it has turn the Scottish into a bunch of whiners