What If The United States Of Austria Worked? | Alternate History 

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The Austro Hungarian Empire is like a college dorm except everyone has a hangover and their neighbor is the valedictorian

My country tis of thee, Austria-Hungary, obey your king...

Ferdinand of Austria looks like the human embodiment of the big-brain meme.

France: Bad news! The USA has joined the side of the Central Powers! Britain: Oh bloody hell! Now I’m going to have to divert resources to Canada! France: No, not that USA! 🤦‍♂️

As a Croat I never knew I could nut and cry at the same time.

So we'd technically have 2 countries named USA :D

Everyone’s playing Hoi4 while United States Of Austria is over here playing Stellaris

Me: Time travels Also Me: Franz don't go for car ride When I come back:

The USA that we wanted but didn't deserved.

This is now my favorite Chanel I’ve literally been trying to find a good video on this topic for months

What if the Russian Empire industrialized properly before the outbreak of WW1?

3:43 *Foreheadinand the First*

I have to disagree about the Roman Empire since they last over 800 years befor breaking in two and even the East Rome last almost thousand. No nation has lasted as long except maybe China.

can you make an alternate history scenario on if my parents never divorced? i would be interested in seeing how it would majorly affect global politics.

If Austria Empire didn't collapse after ww1 i think ww2 would never heppend. First Hitler would never gain power, but even If he did Austria Empire would be very strong opposition to Germany and ww2 on that scale would never happened.

Noone really remembers but Poles fought on both sides during the Great War, but reason why they fought on the side of Central Powers was because of Austria-Hungary. There were few conceptions. One was Polish Kingdom with Polish Habsburg on throne; different one was peaceful annexation, more of unification of Polish lands within the Austro-Hungary, and giving Poland or West Slavs' land in general (again different variants) role of the Third Kingdom or Fourth if the South Slavs had get their own earlier. It's quite interesting topic tbh. Czechs and Poles were often allies within the Austro-Hungary. Some more radical sympathisers were proposing united Czecho-Polish nation, arguing that they would be stronger together, but it never came into fruition

This would be good because as a Slovak i would have a higher incentive to play as Austria, Bohemia, Galicia, etc in all strategy games because they would essentially all be one country lmao. I know very important

Fun fact: If the United States of Greater Austria (or Danubian Federation as I like to call it) would have formed and didn't collapse, it would be Europe's second largest country after Russia. Love all the countries of the former empire from Hungary :D

I’m Polish and out of the 3 countries which partitioned us Austria is the one I sort of like, I wouldn’t mind living in a United States of Austria

Monsieur Z: What if the United States of Austria worked? Kaiserreich in the background: psssssssssst...pssssssssssst

Blessed Kaiser Karl makes a blessed Danubian Federation

Here's a question: What if Gran Colombia didn't fall / still exist today?

It’s an interesting concept that had the Austro Hungarian empire remained we could have avoided World War II. But with its influence in the Middle East buy a turkey the politics of that region as well as its history Would be vastly different as well. This empire would have control from central Europe across the Black sea in parts of the Mediterranean. These water roots are so important that Russia today is still trying to gain access. Oil reserves that it would command in addition to its hegemony would make it a world power today. That being said, Soviet Russia would not have allowed that to stand without a fight. Water access and petroleum sales to Europe would have been hotly contested for decades which is why we are seeing their influence in Ukraine, Georgia and now Syria. It’s hard to say that establishment of this empire would have created lasting peace in preventing World War II, or would have created new friction with both Russia and the Allied powers of our timeline in the west. In either case, one man, Francis Ferdinand, just by living, could have changed the modern world.

Honestly as a Croat replacing the name with "Danube" and de-germanize/de-madgyarize the federation I would be all for it. EDIT: All languages would be made equal but Latin should be the lingua de franca of the empire like e.g. in the military.

That's impossible, just today I made a special Austro-Hungary day that I've spent on learning more about Austria-Hungary, listening to AH songs, etc... I even watched your video about "What if AH had colonies" Damn, I'm lucky

It's funny, I did a paper revolving around this concept for my History class in college. The concept was "If you were transported back to 1900, what would you do?" It was highly unrealistic, but I made my professor laugh so much beacuse of all the jokes I hid in it that he said she shared it with her fellow professors and they all loved it.

This Federation looks absolutely gorgeous - Me, fellow Austrian native *Edit: What hell did I start with this comment?!*

How about 'What if Manchukuo survived?' or 'what if Manchukuo was internationally recognized?' Big implications for China's future if they don't have an industrial base.

What if all of the British colonies in North America joined the revolution?

The fact that FranzJoseph lived for so long especially for his time is beyond comprehension, he lived through ruling 2 empires, the rapid industrialisation of Europe and most of the Great War

You know what really grinds my gears. Z using world maps when some small things change in the Balkans.

Now this is the United States of *Greater* Austria

What if Hungary's jagileon dynasty ruller didn't die without a hier

I love it! And here are the lists that I want to see the future video. 1. What if Korean Empire never fails. 2. What if Korea becomes the colony of France? 3. What if Japan becomes the colony of the USA? 4. What if Xinhai Revolution failed? 5. What if Two Sicilian Empire had a colony or refuse to united with Italian Empire? 6. What if Ethiopia was the superpower in the African continent? 7. What if Park Chunghee survives in the 10/26? 8. What if General MacArthur drop nukes in Manchuria(or China?) 9. Fascist Korea 10. What if Civil cause the World War? 11. What if Japan invade Australia?

How do you keep making such detailed, interesting topics that I want to learn more about every single week? I dont know but keep up the good work man 👍

It don't understand how you didn't mention Romanians in Transylvania, or Transylvania for that matter, at all. They were quite a large ethnic group, with no related ethnic group inside the empire, well except other Romanians in Bucovina in the Austrian part of the Empire, and the small number of Italians on the other side of the Empire, but with a separate state on the border of the Empire. Especially considering the proposal you are talking about was proposed by a Transylvanian Romanian politician, Aurel Popovici, and as far as I know was quite popular amongst Transylvanian intellectuals prior to the Great War as unification with Romania seemed impossible at that time. I might be biased being Romanian and from Transylvania myself, but still, I think we're relevant enough to the subject to have been mentioned :D

it was a very rich and beautiful empire. the Anglo-Saxons turned the peoples of the empire against each other. that's how the HAPPY TIMES OF PEACE passed

so austria could have single handedly stopped ww2 from happening .... how ironic

At first glance, I actually thought the title read, "What If The United States Of *America* Worked." That may well be a topic for a future video! lol But, seriously, cool video! It was interesting!

This has now made me want a "What if Britain formed an Imperial Federation" video, great job! (a sequel to what if the Americas were never colonised would be great too)

What if Austria-Hungary was made of chocolate?

Beautiful... I wish this happened, I as a Croat would be so happy about it.

Croatian-Slovakian-Bohemian-Austria-Hungarian-Yugoslavian-Romanian Empire

If the U.S, of Austria had existed, it will be a Constitutional Monarchy and a Federation. The title of Emperor would be abandon and replace with King. Due to it being located mostly in Central Europe, the USA will be a powerful country. German will be one of the national legal languages. Overtime, USA will become a country like Switzerland.

Very fascinating possibilities in this video. I like it very much, especially in that the Empire is essentially transformed into a federal constitutional republican monarchy. Well done! Please keep the outstanding videos coming and God bless you and your team, my friend!

What if the Holy Roman Empire unified into one large state rather than many smaller ones.

What if Castille united with Portugal instead of Aragon?

If this idea worked, I would be living in Europe still.

I have been trying to Find a video about this for so long thank you monsieur Z

It would've stayed together if it was made of chocolate

What if the Austro-Prussian war never happened? Or what if Austria won the Austro-Prussian war?

A federation would solve the ethnic conflicts, but the Empire would decline in power through this decentralization and become unstable again and the states would break away. I see the Trialist idea of an Austria-Hungary-Croatia as the better option because all the other different peoples would probably get autonomous regions within the Empire, but only Austria, Hungary and Croatia serving as actual entities. The best version of Trialism is the suggestion made by Dr Nikola Bjelovučić, who suggested following territories for each entity: Austria / Lands of the Imperial Crown: - German Austria - Bohemia and Moravia - Galicia Hungary / Lands of the Crown of Saint Stephen: - Hungary - Transylvania - Slovakia and Zakarpatia - Bachka, Baranja and Banat Croatia / Lands of the Crown of Zvonimir: - Croatia-Slavonia - Dalmatia - Bosnia and Herzegovina - Istria and Rijeka - Slovenia - Trieste Territories like Trieste, Vojvodina, Podrinje etc. would enjoy certain autonomy within the three entities. Anyways, nice video

What if Russian Empire won the Crimean War? You know, the cold weather cause Russia won just like the Napoleon.

I don’t think the USA or practically any other European power would be happy if Germany started wars for colonial holdings or even gained them peacefully. I only really see it happening as a possible “temporary” solution in China and that’s almost equally unlikely. Without Finland and the Baltic states being easy targets the USSR might turn its attention towards the Middle East and China. This could bring the USSR even more to bear and possible either a proxy war would start or the USSR would outright get involved with the communists in China. I could also see the USSR focusing more on Iran and Afghanistan and possibly trying to pressure Turkey, the problem with Iran and Afghanistan is the UK, specifically in Iran’s case. This could lead to a Second World War against the USSR and with possibly Germany and Italy taking advantage of the situation. This could lead the Austrian eastern states to stay neutral for a while until it became no longer a option as well Germany would still want Danzig and to unit “all Germans” and Italy would likely want the Croatian coast. This would bring the war to them and honestly I’m unsure who would win. I think the Allies and the Austrian powers would as they would be able to clear the Soviets possibly quite quickly out of colonial holdings and with the Axis on a two front war (bear in mind the Austrians would be to) could lead to Italy and then Germany falling. I feel like the Soviet’s would get off lightly at first with minor concessions near Murmansk and Leningrad as well as a independent Ukraine and full withdrawing from China. The Italians would likely have to give up Libya and East Africa to the British and, Rhodes to the Greeks and Trentino-Alto Adige to the Austrians. Germany would probably be occupied as per our to line but it might even be split up. Without many threats in Europe and Austria practically taking its place there would be no need for a whole strong Germany. Bavaria would likely be a Austrian supervised state, the saar going to France and the Rhineland being it’s supervised state and Hanover being the British supervised state while the Americans (if they ever join) would probably create a independent Prussian republic. Poland would also take Koenigsberg and rename it to Królewiec. I have no idea what Japan would be up to in this timeline. However I assume their focus in China would clash a lot with the soviets and this brining them against the USSR as well and possibly even taking Vladivostok, however unlikely. More likely is Japan would have border skirmishes with them in Mongolia and needing the Allies to win but not necessarily wanting to help them would probably stay neutral.

Interesting ideas. I've been interested in Austria-Hungary since I first stumbled across it in history class decades ago. It's an intriguing puzzle, for which there doesn't seem to be a workable solution. By WW1, the Empire was such a multi national mess that it was unsustainable. The turmoil within the Empire and the Balkans was a direct cause, or at least a significant factor in setting off WW1. If there had been some way to solve the Austria-Hungary problems, perhaps WW1, as well as subsequent WW2, could have been prevented. So if I had been in charge, what would I have done? In essence, I'd have had a yard sale of various territories. I'd give the majority Italian areas to Italy, with a joint treaty that Italy would forever recognize the new border, and Austrian control or access to Trieste so Austria would have a port on the Mediterranean. These areas are relatively small, and would not be much of a loss, especially if I can secure Austria's southern border. I'd let Croatia become it's own independent country, with Bosnia thrown in. This would extract Austria from the Croatian/ Serbian conflict. Let Croatia war with it's southern Slav cousins, while Austria gets to stay out, maybe only offering occasional military supplies as support to Croatia. It would be best to cut loose the Ukrainians of East Galicia, the Poles of West Galicia, and the Slovakians to form their own separate nation states, or in the case of the Poles and Ukrainians to join with ethnically similar neighboring territories. The Hungarians and Romanians would have to come to some sort of mutually agreed upon division of their intermingled lands, but again, Austria could remain out of the conflict. This would leave the German/Austrian areas, the Czech lands of Bohemia and Moravia, and Slovenia. Both the Czechs and Slovenians are the most westernized of the Slavic people, and easiest to accommodate or assimilate. In addition, I would promote a vast resettlement of the scattered German people throughout the Eastern lands, encouraging them to move to the the remaining core of smaller, but more compact Austria. The new Austria would consist of the combined area of modern Austria, Tyrol, Czech Republic, and Slovenia.

The Habsburgs were good, devout catholic leaders. Looking back, a united states concept with us Croatians and Austrians would have been good. Our royal bloodline married into the Habsburgs, the heir is alive and well, racing in f3, he was baptised in Zagreb, Ferdinand Zvonimir Habsburg. One can dream 🤣

I have to say multiethic Empires in Europe workout out for quite some time. The Habsburg-Empire existed for hundreds of years and only at the end if was called Austria-Hungary to give credits to two of the many Nationalities, but neglecting the rest. The problem was, that NATIONALISM seemed like a new, modern thing back then. Nationalism was the problem killing the multiethic, multireligious, multilinguistic countries. It was a fever in the 19th and 20th century. But now in a globalized world we understand that small nations are having a hard time only by themselves.

What if the mongol empire discovered Alaska?

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You killed me by making Jagiełło a “Jyggalian” :D

The Emperor of Austria: "Diversity is our strength!"

Person:Hey where do you live? Other Person:The USA Person:Oh so you’re American? Other Person:No I’m from the United States of Austria

Austria-Hungary-Croatia-Chekoslovakia-Poland-Ukraine-Romania-Bosnia-Slovenia

Technically speaking, this is really “What if the United States of Austria even got to form?” because having a never-formed country succeed implies that it got to form and didn’t fail “immediately”. However I wouldn’t go so far as to a successful United States of Austria would preempt a second Great War entirely with Russia still going Communist in the same timeline; maybe the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth attempts to return as a Fascist state with Italian help, Germany being spared from Fascism by a strong German-led nation emerging from the war.

romanians and slovenians : " guess i wont exist

What if the Meji restoration never happened

I believe you meant to say, _Jagiellonian_ regarding Poland, not Jagiellian. Also, mentioning the threat of armed Hungarian nationalism in the AH Empire without even mentioning _any_ of the three wars of Italian independence the House of Savoy, the later Kingdom of Italy, _actually_ fought against the AH Empire is surprising.

What if The Warsaw Uprising succeeded?

BOHEMIA NEVER FALLS.

The rather obscure idea that the United States of Greater Austria was sort of a blueprint - among many blueprints - for the EU.

Do a remake of What if europe became a super state

So if the U.S. of Austria would've, we would get an Austrian-centric version of the Intermarium.

An alternative to simply Wilson's hand, I'd say the allies could've had a vested interest in keeping the Austrian Empire united to contain communism. Through that, it's likely that they'd be able to offer proper support to the whites in the Russian civil war, avoiding the rising of the USSR altogether.

Why isn't bohemia represented in the thumbnail flag?

Wouldn't this proposal of a United States of Greater Austria during the war piss off Italy, Serbia, and Romania since they had claims on their lands or would they just accept it since the alternative would be the animosity of the entire Entente, including the US?

What if Cao Cao won at Red Cliffs?

1000th comment 🥳 Great video btw

It wasn't a given that AH would disintegrate, which only happened because it lost WW1. The UK at the same time consisted of four countries, and while most of Ireland left shortly afterwards, 100 years later, the UK still consists of three and a quarter countries.

it would probably be called the Danubian Federation

Great video Mr. Z. I would propose and alternative name to the state though. The Danubian Confederation or Federation of the Danube. This was an idea entertained by some Hungarian nobles and politicians in the past.

I'm not convinced that Hungary would be defeated by Austria. It's well documented that, while slightly smaller, the Hungarian half of the army was much better trained and equipped than the Austrian. There's also that the Poles and Hungarians have had almost a thousand years of peace and friendship, making it unlikely that Galicia would join in, probably keeping them neutral at best. I do agree that Serbia and Russia would give aid, but idk how much. My point is that Hungary came super close to winning in 1848 without a standing army and any aid. Now they have both against almost the same odds. The Austrians weren't known as the best fighters in Europe, so I wouldn't be so quick to believe that Hungary just loses.

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What if Austria-Hungary intervened in the Franco Prussian war

In this timeline, would Hitler pursue an art career or would he still get into politics?

While this is an interesting premise, i think any sort of reform, at least by the time Franz Joseph died and Franz Ferdinand would take the throne is impossible. No one wanted to budge, no one liked the empire and giving greater autonomy to all those states would effectively mean almost dissolving the empire. Franz Ferdinand's plan was just a dream made by an out of touch elite that didnt understand the gravity of the situation. I honestly think that the only thing that could save Austria Hungary was if a huge war happened and many ethnicly tense lands were ripped away from it but without the empire itself being dissolved. The nobility would never willingly accept to lose that land, thus losing it by force could actually mean saving the empire since it simply couldnt stay togheter

Good video

I have a Video Idea. What if Post WW2 Germany turned into a Technocracy? (Kinda possible, since Technocracy was seen as third way between Communism and Capitalism, and the French and Americans used Policies to rebuild Germany which had the some Technocratic parts, as far as I know)

I would relly like to see that time line would the Waimar still Fall? Would Germany join the Austrians? Would Germany became a Constituional Monarchy? Would there even be a second great war or would ther only be a German/Autrian Russian war?

Didn't expect to see this. Fascinating topic sir.

gran colombia didn’t fail because we were too diverse like bro gran colombia literally housed three types of peoples found throughout the country wich were the whites mestizos and indians we all also spoke spanish

As a Croat from Bosnia...I would very much prefer such an outcome then the accursed first Yugoslavia and later communist yugoslavia. Croatia has always had the ambition to reunify Bosnia into itself as that would establish more secure border with rivers and mountains to the sides. A greater Austrian triune Kingdom would be awesome and as a precursor to the EU.

What if the habsburg candidate won the Polish lithuanian royal elections and integrated them to their realms

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I think România might join this federation if transilvania ka doing well as a state within the empire

What if the Netherlands joined world war 1 because of the good relations between the van Oranje-Nassaus & von Hohenzollens?

What if after ww2,germany became a monarchy

Did he make "what happened if Austria-Hungary was made of chocolate"?

Well, the breakup was definitely nor among ethnic and cultural lines. It was deliberately NOT like that, so that the people in that region should hate each others for generations to come. The goal in the Entente powers was to stop Central Europe to ever become strong again.