What if you could only level up Speech in Skyrim? 

"Absolutely bro I'm all ears" >The dragonborn is a Khajit

fallout new vegas final bosses be like

the good ending

Well, shouts _are_ dragon speech. So in a way you were using speech to beat Alduin.

@@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 you are technically right

not irl though. which is why i wish retorik was better in this game.

@@golohanser6178 I don't know about that. Next time when you get the opportunity to talk to someone and see if stabbing them provides more resources. You will probably be able to loot them and get some money. Or you could pay someone to be your permanent life long guard (their life not yours)

@@arminkuburas1696 yeah but in an rpg setting extreme violence is always a faster and more effective solution

@@Sogmabolz tell me you know nothing about rpgs beyond Bethesda railroaded choose your own adventure books without telling me

Bethesda’s entire philosophy with their new games

Even worse is that even focusing entirely on the skill still wasn't enough to make it through most of the skill checks

Or about how shit Bethesda is at making RPGs

Literally why i never play without Ordinator, makes speech actually useful, makes alchemy actually useful for anything but money, makes smithing strong in combat by letting you make turrets. Really good mod, fully recommend.

@@Dadki12345 i agree, Ordinator is a great perk mod.

You don't have to use any magic to become the Arch-Mage either. Noticing a trend here...

Underrated comment. When I heard him saying it I flipped. Twas smooth.

"Among assorted-" AMONG ASS? SUS

The way he just barely laughs saying it, he was so proud of himself (as he should be)

Speech 100

14:36

Ordinator: am I a joke to you

Adamant: Am I a joke to you?

Yeah I'm using ordinator and another mod, I want to do like this and spec all into speech and see what happens.

@@friedpilot4663 ​ @Syrakusa Sry i play vanilla, so i didn't know there is a mod for that. Should be part of the basegame anyway

@@blackshaddow5005 no ur good lol but if u ever switch to mods its really nice, just lots of quality of life things out there that make you go “I wish I thought of getting that earlier” like being able to block with magic and swords etc

Not being able to solve any problems in skyrim without violence/wandering into a cave somewhere isn't its biggest writing problem. It's the story always being about you. You're the dragonborn, the leader of the thieves guild, the listener of the dark brotherhood, the arch-mage of the college of winterhold, and more. It would have been amazing if you could help various npcs reach these titles. Maybe choose a companion from the students in winterhold, your favorite thief, your favorite member of the dark brotherhood, and help them become the [important person] of their respective faction. Or bring an outsider in and help them rise to power. Once this is done they can no longer be your companion because they have bigger fish to fry now, save for one or two quests where you go out and clear a dungeon together "for old time's sake". Also add some fun word of mouth advertising. "who did you choose to be the listener?" etc.

​@@nathonizamboni875You're talking about Cyberpunk

Richard can now spread Stenvar's tale all over Tamriel in his bardly career.

The best part is that having a companion like Richard would be awesome - someone to loot and sell all the valuables while you're questing and clearing dungeons. Inventory Management has always been the worst part of Skyrim, so a follower that takes it off your hands would be amazing.

How so? Are maybe three points in new vegas where speech gets you out of fights, and unless I’m forgetting something it wouldn’t help much outside of that for a challenge like this. Fallout 4 has the pacify perks that can get animals and people to stop fighting, but it’s far from reliable, and outright doesn’t work on higher level stuff.

@@lonestarlibrarian1853 In New Vegas, you can complete virtually all of the non-DLC quests without killing anyone. Plus, completing skill challenges in New Vegas gives you xp. Speech checks are among the most common so you get a lot of bang for your buck there.

@@lonestarlibrarian1853 not really. Look up many a true nerds No kill run, now it’s not everywhere but in Vegas there are lots of opportunities to talk your way out of a situation and talk other people into doing what you want.

@@lonestarlibrarian1853 Nah, In New Vegas you can speech your way to the top quite easily. It's almost encouraged, even. Speech checks are very frequent overall and besides avoiding battles they reward you with caps, supplies and reputation on top of that - and it also helps skip steps in many quests. Overall, speech is quite overpowered in FO:NV. Barter is useful sometimes but not as frequent, and speech is used more often to ask for better rewards on quests anyways. On FO4 Speech doesn't really exist and is instead a part of Charisma. As it is, it increases settlement size, reduces vendor prices and increases the success rate for speech checks. Unfortunately speech checks aren't as common and very rarely do people go over 6 just to get Local Leader. A charisma of 11 is needed to have 100% success rate in hard checks, and it can be reached with chems (particularly grape mentats) and equipment. Its certainly not as powerful, partly due to the different system in FO4 as reputation doesn't exist, and writing became less extensive due to the main character having voice acting, unlike previous installments.

guys, let's be real. i have to stop myself from leveling speech in FNV because it's too easy. speech playthroughs are super fun but incredibly easy, you just skip all the hard stuff.

It’s always the first question I do in a play through because of that

theives guild has better rewards for speechcraft then the bards college

In the end, he really did level up his speech skill, but you don't need a silly little bar to fill for that. The true speechcraft is the tale you weave along the way.

Richard still absorb dragon soul in the plot so he still a dragonborn but he think that stanvar should be dragon born more than him and Richard live in peace as he dont care about Fus roh dah at all.

Well no, did you see the video ? Stenvar is the one who absorbed the dragon's soul.

Reminds me of the guards that wonder who the dragonborn is, maybe they themselves might be it. And with the adventurers and travellers mod, there aren't just other adventuring groups around, but also fake dragonborn

This comment is canon.

By the nine, are you mad? May the almighty Talos show mercy to you, For you to speek such herecy. Be careful heimskr might plot against you for dishonoring the God of man. Tiber Septim: *sad Talos noises*

There are 9 divines

You literally meet talos in sovngarde

Just play knights of the old Republic 1+2. So much better games

@@remote24 Those games are fine but I like my glitchy fantasy games

The Beyond Skyrim project seems to be going in that direction based on the Bruma prerelease

just download the Ordinator mod and stop bitching about this.

Speech is pretty useful in Morrowind to be honest.

you just didn't have the right mods to make it fun. this video is doing everything from vanilla, which is super tiring to be honest. the best mods for a speech skill only playthrough would be, Ordinator perks, re-real estate, notice board, anyway, with using these mods within conjunction of another, you can make lots of money just using mostly speech, the real estate mod allows you to purchase any house, mine, store, farm, and make passive income on them. of course you have to start kind of small, the cheapest homes in the game are in riverwood at $3,500 a home, but most houses depending on the location can range up from $5,000 - $25,000 and you make up that money in the form of rent and then onto shops can range up from $25,000 to $65,000 and temples can range from $100,000 to $1,000,000 all depending on location and what threshold settings that can be set in the MCM menu. oh, and mines can be used to hire minors so long as they don't have any bandits within then, they can be killed and then you can hire miners, but they range up from $50 to $100 a day, but you make up for it in the ores extracted from the mines. i have done this playthrough at least a few times, because i love the idea of making your money work for you. i like it, because it reminds me of assassins creed brotherhood with their minigame to make passive income, that was very well integrated into the story and gameplay.

@@user-tp5yb4hr4w You would think that the developers of a role playing game might develop their game to have role-playing options in vanilla, and simply saying that there are mods that fix a thing excuses an oversight in quality. 🤔 I'm fairly certain most everyone is aware of mods now but, once upon a time, only us glorious golden gods of the pc computer box could partake of the forbidden rituals of modding games.

@@theequitableprose that's true, they have been focusing on story only from one perspective for the game, and they for whatever reason forgot to add choices into the story, that's what makes it an RPG where you are presented with multiple choices, but i guess they chose to only have the multiple choices with everything else you do in the game like the class system. but even that is set up to make it so you have the option to be good at everything, you can't just be a magic user, you can be good at your speech, but it's mostly based on player choice, so if you choose to play a certain way, you can, but you have to be your janitor and only pick and choose what to level up. recently i was thinking of only doing a mage build where every time i level up, instead of picking more magica or health or stamina, that the option to upgrade these shouldn't exist, so instead i just choose to put it into my stamina because that doesn't really effect much outside of stamina, making the game still a challenge as i level up because my pool of both health and magica always stay the same, the difference is only found within my perks chose to use. my theory is this will make it so i'm not too strong but also so i don't need to make the difficulty higher, the idea is that i always stay the same with my health and magic, but the perks will help lesson stuff like it takes less magic to cast spells when they are used so there is no need to put more magic in my pool because the perks help in that regard, i also don't want to be a spongy enemy and want to fight a little more realistic instead of tanking my way through everyone like normal. goin back to the original topic, so the RPG elements still exist just not in the story, but everything else that you can do is provided that you have the choice to do what you want to do within the confines of the game's world.

@@user-tp5yb4hr4w that was a magnificent response. Still, the role playing you are selling me is from the player, not the game.

@@theequitableprose your correct, but that's also why i brought up the idea of the RPG choices outside the quests, you can still do as you wish within the games mechanics, but it's strongly based on how you would like to play your game.

Speech increased to 120

That's too 'main character' for this kind of build 😂 Stenvar was the true dragonborn.

To be fair, if you were running the Ordinator perk revamp mod, Speechcraft actually has some combat options - it has an entire branch dedicated to shouts and a branch for doing bard-y things that has busking at the start, and AE buffs, control and damage at the other. Combine that with one of the mods that expands on the Bard's College and it would make for an interesting playthrough concept.

@@Schadrach42 Every Perk Overhaul mod I've seen adds a Shout branch to the Speech perk tree.

@@Janoha17 Yeah, most do. But the bard path is less common. It's kinda neat too, starts with performing for money, has buffs, debuffs and eventually AE damage.

That sounds like a mod that I need to have.

In a game as broad as Skyrim you could’ve never expected a deep and meaningful speech system, not only does that NOT appeal to the normie crowd (30+ million sales thank you very much) but also that would cost a lot more development money. And even effort, which is terrifying. Now, buy the Supreme Dragoncuck re-triple-release of Skyrim coming out this Christmas on your digital fridge.

... !!! I gotta look into that. Speech level influencing shouts is brilliant.

that seems like it would be missing the point a little though. this video is about Skyrim not about things you could do to Skyrim to make it less bad

@@Graknorke nah, it would be nice to have it for contrast, along side with this video

hahahah

Good video mate. You did a great job at prodding at skyrim's weaknesses without being whiny about it. Well done!

I did not expect this to resonate with so many people.

What rpgs are there that have characters that only use speech related skills as a serious playstyle?

@@M4x_P0w3r The entire fallout series?

@@thegames4565 And when you need to kill stuff?

@@M4x_P0w3r if your playing a speech only run your not KILLING anything at all if theirs an enemy you run away and unlike skyrim NEARLY EVERY ENEMY YOU TALK TO lets you talk your way out of fighting them so fallout is the best example of speech only class dummy

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Bethesda forgot too.

@@GamesOnHardMode: I personally think that they've never been able to write a good roleplaying game, but Fallout 4 and Skyrim showed us few who did pay attention how little they care while Fallout 76 cemented how bad they are at writing stories to the general public.

Number 2 comment. Sorry man the first spot was taken.

@@erkkimustajarvi7391 They were posted by the same guy

I unironically enjoyed the wheel.

The wheel wasn't bland at all. I would grind that shit just for fun.

The Oblivion potato people's expressions changed faster than my high school art teacher in that speech wheel game

See you in 3 years 😉

@@GamesOnHardMode You Are Tearing Me Apart, Lisa!