What If You Pull Your CPU Out While The PC Is On? 

Thats also new for me. Never even thought about that to be honest

No way that is true

Same, now I'm wondering if there's a reason they need to be so fragile, would be another interesting video

I need to see citations. Big wtf moment here.

PCIe and other power connectors are also limited.

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No one s speaking about hdmi? The shit broke in about 30/100 insertions.

That's like performing brain surgery on yourself and only dying when you see your brain on the table

@@Gigglesnix exactly still baffles me that Linux allows that

@@Gigglesnix 🤣

@@chielvandenberg8190 it's not that it allows that, it just happens to be possible because of how it's built

@@chiefdenis I know that it ran off ram for the last seconds but windows won’t allow you to erase the boot drive WHATEVER YOU DO

Blue screen was how I learned my laptop ram died... Except the ram wasn't dead, the slot was.

It can BSOD, had a boot drive totally die, and it took windows about 10 minutes to fully die. And I did get a BSOD, albeit a blank one

@@kuhljager2429 now that you mention it, only twice I did experienced a BSoD by bad OS drives, but suprisingly never by disconnected drives (or maybe after a while, not immediately).

​​@@lucario4483I pulled out the HDD on my latitude E6510 while running windows 7 pro and got a BSOD after a few minutes but I have the page file disabled on all my windows computers, I did it because I wanted to see what would happen and I didn't have anything important on the drive.

Since Windows 8, Windows actually attempts to survive a temporary main drive disconnect. The kernel intentionally hangs practically all processes for a few seconds and sees if the drive comes back online. If the drive comes back, it keeps going as if nothing happened. Only after the drive reconnect window times out do you actually get the BSOD. Presumably, this safeguard was implemented as part of Windows To Go. Windows To Go is a feature of Enterprise versions of Windows that assists users in installing Windows to external, removable storage. It requires fairly beefy, fast USB drives that can tank Windows' space requirements and constant disk activity. As a result of effectively providing official support for installing Windows to external storage, they had to make it reasonably resilient to the boot drive dropping off the bus. Of course, this only works on the internal storage if the system BIOS/UEFI handles SATA/NVMe hotplug. Otherwise Windows is not informed that the drive actually disconnected and instead receives corrupt data, which either crashes or hangs, but the system basically can't recover then. The OS kernels (both Windows and Linux) also support running with less than the total available RAM for debugging purposes. Then, removing a stick of RAM should be safe if it is completely unused by the software and firmware. And whether or not removing the GPU (or any PCIe devices) is safe relies mostly on the hardware and firmware not shitting their pants, and properly reporting to the OS. Assuming the motherboard supports PCIe hotplug, the drivers mostly handle it fine. After all, eGPU drivers come from the same codebase as their PCIe siblings. Linux even supports securely ejecting PCIe hardware the same way it does for USB devices.

@@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7 I guess that's why I've experienced some resilience in modern Windows: the drive wasn't actually disconnected, but having a faulty SATA cable/connection; or the drive was just really bad (that hangs loading due to physical bad sectors)

That's how I figured out that my Chromebook's SSD had died.

Behaviour lol

Lol yanking

Relevant everytime I moved my optiplex I have to reseat all my ram and usually my GPU always the ram specifically slot 2 and 4

The most interesting useless tech video in RU-vid

My experience, mostly with computers that are 20+ years old at this point, is that PS/2 can actually handle being hot swapped and will work just fine after, though this is usually only at the BIOS. It's Windows that can't handle it correctly and requires a restart. On Linux, I've plugged a PS/2 keyboard while it was already booted and it just worked

@@redpheonix1000 I ended up with a system with a blown fuse once!

Sounds like my ex.

@@garrisonfjordNot mine. They could handle hundreds.

​@@TheRealSkeletorlet me guess, needed a rotation of different cpus to function?

That's the neat part, you don't!

Carefully.

Ignore it.

Dongles could be used for power connectors. So the end of the dongle is what sees most of the wear. PCIe risers could help also. Then there's the old fashioned way, repair it, but that's just crazy.

It doesn't actually limit you, it's just that the manufacturer (AMD and Intel in this case) have only tested the socket to work for ~10 insertions. It may still work after 100, even 1000, it's just that they never actually cared about making the socket endure this many insertions. At worst, you might not get a warranty replacement if you did it that many times.

Or it basically crashes your PC before you even get a chance to get the cooler off

Dawg my GPU fan doesn't work

@@Fitnessdickinmymouth Which GPU is it?

Like bro😂

Or you could just pull it out with the cooler. PGA master race.

It doesn't actually just "freeze". You get a nice warning message that asks you to plug in the USB drive back, and warns you "Your Windows To Go workspace might crash".

It's a fun channel to watch.

Some motherboards actually do have functionality to flash the bios/uefi even without a cpu installed.

Well the cpu executes the BIOS to begin with, but perhaps a motherboard with BMC could do it, they're not consumer grade hardware though and I don't think they'd sell enough for the added cost, maybe on those $1000 elite ones

Full boot is asking a bit much with everything a modern board does... but it's absolutely idiotic that anything wouldn't have flashback in this day and age.

Some are but having this kind of features is expensive, since many components (specifically the GPU card) are connected directly to the CPU for best performance. Adding a way to control them while there is no CPU will require redesigning the traces and adding extra switches and might not be a sensible use of both space, performance and money.

@@urgay1992 I know that some manufacturers offer this as a feature. But that doesn't make it standard.

I've never seen or heard of this before and did some quick googling. I work at a certain cough cpu maker and never heard of it

I actually did some research because i thought there must be limits specified. Finding specific socket info is kinda hard but i found LGA 775 socket specs and there it says ''socket must withstand 20 insert cycles''. So i don' see it unreasonable that some sockets only are made to withstand 10.

It's a "rating" not a limit. It's like how you need to get your oil changed every howeversomany miles/kilometers. You can certainly drive it a lot further than that and continue to use it but the chances of things going wrong increases.

Look at @SmolPotatowo 's reply; with caution with removing CPUs from sockets, the socket can potentially last significantly longer than its rating. The rating only shows how many times it can be inserted before the likelihood of something wrong occuring increases. Matter of fact, the channel replied to another comment saying the exact same thing we are. Notice how the three of us also never specified a number - different mobos will have different socket ratings, but even with the scarce amount of research I did (thank you comment/replies :D), the consensus seems that 10 and 20 are the most common values for a given CPU socket rating. It all depends on the mobo. If anything, just another detail to think about when working with PCs :)

@@tmanx2724 Yeah i have never heard socket breaking other than bend pins. That's probably why no one ever talks about those numbers.

In Linus Tech Tips channel they had a video where Linus yanked a CPU out of working PC. The GPU just proceeded to display the last frame in its buffer

Lol

What if you cut your computer in half while it's on?

@@50-50_Grind speedrun strats

next : what happens if you pee on your mobo.

yes it does

Yes and no, it means warranty won't protect past 10 insertions but odds are it will be able to handle more

@@FlashDrive356 how they gonna know how many times I inserted 😂

The CPU will work perfectly fine because CPUs usually have duplicate pins

Something similar happened to me when a hard drive started failing while I was playing Skyrim. Right in the middle of a tavern, the game suddenly got super laggy as it had trouble reading data in. Might've been as simple as the tavern bard changing songs, or two NPCs starting a conversation. It was a known failing drive I'd had issues with before, on an old PC I'd already replaced as my main PC -- so not a huge surprise. The only reason I was playing on it at all was that I had Linux on the new PC, and had never gotten Mod Organizer (with its virtual file system for easily loading and unloading my 200+ mods from the game) working properly on Linux.

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Yeah .. but there are always "pre-drops" .. it just happens man. I know it's not as thrilling, but it really is better to use some sort of protection on your unit.

You need consent after 10. It usually doesn't give it.

What did Linus do that made everyone hate him in the last month? I haven't been watching them in a while