What is “Winning at Life” for a Man? -Full Discussion 

Lets settle this : 1 in the chat if you good with one woman. 2 in the chat if you want 2+ Women

“I don’t care about getting married, but I want a big wedding.” Wtf lmao

She cares more about the wedding than marriage boi we are DOOMED

There's really no winning for men. My goal in this life is to not lose too badly.

Winning for a man is being a leader and provider to and for those around you. Leading a successful household, taking care of your community, and being a role model for young men. Because I can tell you this, if you're a billionaire and no one shows up to your funeral, you lost. You're not gonna be on your death bed thinking about the deal that did or didn't go through. You're going to be thinking about the relationships you've built.

As soon as he drops you as a gf he will be winning in life.

Winning as a man is living life on your own terms.

I thought she was the most sane one on the panel then she started talking, then we found out it's been 8 years, then we found out she wants an expensive wedding but is not worried about being a wife, then we find out... see? Jesus these females dude. I have a feeling in 5 years he is going to marry a 25 year old... just not her.

No ONE is naturally loyal or good or content . Those are strengths and skills everyone has to develop or adopt .

I’ve been married for almost 30 years and it is true that I would like to have a different woman every week. The desire is there but I know it’s wrong according to my Father and the vows I took before Him.

She doesn’t want to be married. She just threw out that ridiculous figure of $100,000 dollars to her man so he’ll think the reason why their not married is because of the wedding instead of her just not wanting to marry him. He’s a great boyfriend but not the man she envisioned as her husband.

I think the guys at Fresh & Fit don't circulate with wholesome strong men with faith, so they can't see that Jillian (virgin in red) can still find a high value man who will remain faithful and is a virgin (a lot of faith based men are). Jillian can still find them before they make the money and if she treats them right, they won't look elsewhere. They don't have to have multi millions but they can be highly successful.

Winning in life for a man is having financially stable situation and a woman who is loyal to him (and actually wants to be). That's what the average man wants.

The problem with a lot of this girls is that what they say doesn't match with what they do, they always told me if a girl doesn't do what she says stay away from that girl cause some girls will say they don't care if u hang with other girls, but the moment she sees a girl much prettier talking and laughing with u then what she said about she doesn't care about hanging with other girls doesn't match with what she does, also I find interesting a lot of girl like the guy she knows going to hurt her and then she will complain about that kind of men but 5 min later guess with what kind of men they going for.

I prefer stability and consistency. Multi-tasking is a recipe for disaster. We need to do what's optimal. Probably not the most easy choice. I don't like to live life on easy mode.

She wants to spend his money and have a wedding that cost 100’s of thousands of dollars but doesn’t care that much about being married. That marriage is doomed. I give it 2 to 3 years max after the wedding. And I am being generous. My advice to him is run. You will save yourself 100k plus

Bridezilla: a derogatory noun for a soon-to-be married woman whose behaviour in dealing with her wedding is regarded as both obsessive and excessively demanding. So by that definition, the 8 year relationship girl who wants an extravagant and expensive wedding is not a Bridezilla. She’s more of a greedy, selfish, spoiled brat.

All 8 years aren’t the same. 8 years from 17-25 is completely different than the 8 of 25-33.

"It's a celebration for me." FOR ME! And not US. Pay attention people.

Kings, sultans or a feudal lords practiced polygamy in the manner Myron describes. There is though a reason why a past tense is applied to their time. It is unsustainable. Married for 30+years. During that time I have been tempted to stray from fidelity. Why I never did is that part of the marriage vow is "Forsaking all others". but I do realise that marital fidelity is the most sustainable and honorable sexual contract.

The most argumtative ones, are ALWAYS the ones that bring up some fake ass reality show.. amazing

The lady in a 8-year relationship and not married is in complete denial despite all the evidence showing he may not be taking her seriously.

There is this great Asian folklore ,where a young boy is sent to the wilderness , he has to grow up so the tribe tells him he must pass the test , his mother pleads that he might get eaten by tigers, alligators and snakes .He was given a some food , clothe and a stick and thrown in the middle of the jungle , he comes back and the leader asked him what did he learn , he said he learnt how to hunt and protect himself , the tribe leader took away the stick and told him to go back again , he came back and the tribe leader asked him what did you learn , he said I learnt how to cook , start a fire and survive in harsh conditions , the tribe leader took away everything and they took him to the deepest part of the jungle , he was doing okay but it got to a point where he realized that he would be thrown back into the jungle again , so he decided to stay.He later comes back and the tribe leader asks him what did he learn , he said "I learnt how to Strive,Thrive and Survive but most importantly I learnt is that if I live for myself I will die and no one will remember me in this jungle , but if I take care of my family , community, be responsible ,be a good example and live a life of purpose then I don't need anything".

Myron took the L on that argument about why a dad doesn't need to be there for their child

I disagree with Myron here as I usually do when he talks about infidelity. U can argue tht man’s biology is to sleep with as many women as possible an I can concede to that but not most men would cheat if given the option to. It’s not about just havin the ability to cheat but also what your morality is. A strong man with certain upstanding principles it doesn’t even have to be religion any1 who believes cheating/stepping out of a relationship is weak. Not every dude wants or does cheat. I believe it’s a weak society if a man can’t control himself. Which we r definitely living in one I also strongly disagree with the father not rlly havn to be involved with his children having a healthy relationship with ur father is one of the most important aspects of a child’s upbringing. If a man has 20 kids from 20 different women it will be very hard to devote ur time to each of them.

Translation “ I know I’m wrong but your not supposed to tell me that because your a man”

Why does myron talks like he knows everything, there are men who stay faithful to one woman and doesn't even want to cheat.

Run man ,ruuuuuun!

biologically this should never even be an argument

This idea men don't like monogamy is laughable. Most men have been monogamous throughout history. It's a biological drive to seek out a wife and build a family

100k for a wedding instead of investing LOLZ, WAAAAAAMAAAAAN!!!

Regarding her (potential wedding) she really said “well eventually it’s not gonna be that much money”. The fact she wants to wait, she doesn’t realize it’ll cost more as year by year, inflation increases the cost of everything let alone what she’ll want in a wedding

I gotta say that this might be the first time I feel like the hosts are ruining the episode.. like the women are all great and giving good answers. And they keep interrupting with immature comments and really bad responses like "guys want a bunch of chicks" I stopped there cause I was getting annoyed

Some chick had the greatest answer at some point on this show… The guy can have a side chick as long as no part of the relationship enters or strains the house. -no lipstick on the collar -no diseases -no bastard kids -no drama

A BIG PARTY and an extravagant wedding are 2 different things. There's a reason he is not getting married. Finalizing paperwork could have happened before an extravagant wedding.

Notice how they all addressed it from their own pov's instead of a man's pov, and that the 1st 2 starting off with "I feel...". He didn't ask what you felt- he asked whether or not you knew what winning to a man is...Jfc, if more women cut their emotions from having the ability to make decisions, then we as a societal whole might be able to progress

8 years is a stop sign.

25 -30 years ago there was NO such thing as dad's always around or there. This has only become the norm be ause social media portrays that shit

8 years and not married but waiting for a big wedding. That’s funny. It’s funny because the other women understand. That’s why they are quiet and not budding in to talk. The woman is most delusional/crazy when one woman is saying dumb stuff and other woman don’t interrupt like always.

16:40 “why would you want to do that to your man?” She doesn’t care about what he wants and straight up said it. This is the cringy truth for many. After that is the long line of excuses of why it’s ok to be like that. “Have you heard of Bridezilla?”😬😬😬

17:00 And they wonder why men don't want to get married 🙄 🤦🏽

The girl in the red wasn't the issue. The other chick was clearly the side chick an hated her cuz she knew the guy they were both dealing with made the girl in red his main who would be his future wife.

No Man says Yessssss, I get to be with 1 women, for the rest of my life.

You Need to Unlearn, what you have Learned. Everyone in Yoda Voice

4 or 5 chicks'd be cool... a blonde, an oriental, hispanic, mixed race, gothic... sometimes together haha

"Women are like fish, they don't think, they just do shit." -Patrice O'Neal

Women in pink sounds like Kermit.

The fact that she thinks spending “hundreds of thousands” of dollars on wedding is reasonable tells you what a walking disaster she is. She was the life of a pro athletes wife. Sad

They will be fine if she stays with him. He has stayed with her for eight years. He is not leaving. 20:12

Her mommy and daddy are supposed to pay for the wedding. That's the tradition

On this 1 the females have a point to a certain extent. With Nick Canon having an 💩ish load of kids with seperate females not being in their lives is a bad move. Some of the kids that I went to high school were gangsters & on drugs cause the dad was working extra hours Monday-Saturday on a 9-6 yet alone Nick Canon/Entrepreneurs/CEO. & Myron is right that girl should forget about that extravagant pointless wedding & just be married if that's what she's aiming for. She's not going to be 25 yrs. For 8 yrs. She's only getting older & less desirable for Men.

It’s all about her she wants the wedding but she’s not a wife

Rumor has it, she’s still single.

Isn't it funny how a man want multiple chicks is unsafe and immoral but a 250000 is perfectly fine.

If her guy's watching this he'll be thinking 'Do I want to commit myself to this woman?' Because it's all about her, did you notice? What she wants. No, what she demands! What he thinks about it all is irrelevant. He's just a bit actor in her drama. I'd be getting cold feet, I know it. She's only going to get worse when they've tied the knot. She's going to be nagging when he gets home from work...

25+ single woman = 🚩

Where this money coming from that this girl thinks she’s going have millions of dollars to pay for 1 day and then pay for kids and whatever else she has in mind.

They fucked up. Kat Dennings from 2 broke girls is much more accurate😂

Not to be a hater.. truly, but I really don’t see the value fresh adds to this show.

It kills me how men can sit down and tell woman how men are and they deny it all the way.

I love this man so much 💯👍

Women want the huge party in her name, not being with the guy for lifetime. Totally celebrating wrong thing sad

Man. If I could live in the La La Land women live in.

He definitely not gonna marry her 🤣

@17:47 holy ph uc smfh this b is cray cray

Winning for a man? Not falling for modern day women’s thirst traps . Oh and he has a passport. Felled, get your passport

Dimples is seriously whacked if she thinks her "fiancé" gon wife her up

The girl in the red dress, was she on Just for peral? She sounds like her.

These young women are so easily brain washed.

Shie is pathetic😢 poor guy for 8 years

Myron is a cut flower. He is so close but ultimately so wrong about life, as he only sees things through a selfish lens.

9:00 most women but obv she is not one of those women this is what I'm talking about

Male libido is what makes him imperfect, it's what makes Chads, and simps. Thank God for Christianity, that brought monogamy and by extension the best in human flourishing.

Knowledge is power and STDs would demolish every argument defending hyper sexual men not wanting one woman.

Wtf is emotional success

when see this kinda stuff i think mgtow is a great choice

Society can sustain itself via polygamy. That is how society was built. Men have always had the wife and the mistress or side chick. Prostitution is the oldest female profession in history and thrive even when marriage rates were at their highest. Majority of ken that use hookers/only fans/sugar babies etc are married men or men in relationships. Females outnumber men so to sustain society and allow every female to have children in a family setting, polygamy is the only way aka 1 man with 2-3 females.

The woman sitting next to Myron, I think this is the pretty soft spoken chick that was on justpearlythings that was wearing the mask.

They lost

You think Elon musk or Jeff bezos suffered lol

I think the girl in red is an actor lol

100,000$ + weddings and it’s all about her and she doesn’t care about the marriage?🫤🫤🤨 and that’s how much it cost to make her happy for one day.