A NAS or "network attached storage" device is a way to consolidate your data and keep it all safe! It might not be glamorous, but it's definitely a great idea to have one!
Yup. It's just this current generation that expects everything for free. No paying, no ads, just free free free. It's sad. They don't appreciate the work that goes into all the content they get.
UnknownXV The way I look at it is we pay for TV, we shouldn't get ads. I pay for internet shouldn't get ads. Adblock saved me in that regard and I don't watch TV anymore because most of the stuff can be accessed online. I can also turn ads on to youtubers and websites I wish to support instead of having hundreds blasted at me every minute. When it comes to integrated ads its a smart way for us not being able to skip or block an add and I stopped watching TV to avoid this situation. I'm fine with advertisements on this channel though, supporting Linus and his team. Hell yeah. As a note I had also setup my anti-virus to block advertisements before I knew adblock existed, that's how much I guess me as someone close to the current generation hates advertisements.
All4thlulz Well I get pretty good internet connectivity in the UK, but as far as I'm concerned the ISPs do not own the internet, they do not get to monetise its content. Content creators on the other hand are entitled to, and I believe they should do it with ads rather than up-front payments. However this is the way it will need to go if people keep using software like ad-block. TV and the "Internet" are not comparable entities and I believe that is a fairly naïve way of looking at the situation.
Lonewolf That is true, I see how content creators are entitled to gain revenue. ISPs may not own the internet but they own our access to the internet, and we should be able to access advertisement free internet if we choose to pay for it, at least that's what I want. I think it's the abundance of ads that annoy me more, one ad integration would be fine if there were not three other types of ads on the same webpage or playing over the video. I beg to differ on the comparison to TV, TV is merely a platform from which the shows are broadcast on. You can get the same shows streamed in a different way through the internet. Besides hook up your paid TV to the internet and bam on demand just like youtube etc.
All4thlulz you arent paying for the content you are accessing with your internet when you "pay for internet" you are paying for "Access" to the internet. You don't "buy" the internet with your monthly bill
Linus, your video editing is getting better by the video. I really like the subtle tricks you guys are doing and that it's not "in your face" kinds of effects that get annoying. Keep up the hard work, 200k is just around the corner.
I am fan of your work, really Detailed and to the Point. I Never Miss your Video. I Was Tech Guy for 7 Years, Now a Entrepreneur of a small IT Startup From India.
Great video with a good concise script and appropriate visuals. This video format is a cut above most other rambling non-pro videos that go on and on. This one gets to the point as a great intro to NAS. Good job guys!
I use a NAS to store all my files over a gigabit connection. My Steam library, my movies, music, ect all stored on it. My main tower only has an SSD and a 500gb files for stuff I need locally (raw video files and stuff I am uploading) in it. So far it has been a pretty excellent solution. Built from my old gaming PC that I built in '07
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Very well said !! Btw for many who think they need a back up for their NAS with another NAS just remember you can have a small backup of your NAS not the same storage capacity as your NAS. Example: RAID 5 NAS system ($1200) Back up of NAS with a external ($50) You only need to back up your important stuff, not everything...if you want everything then get the identical drives but cash out
Great work Linus! From your videos I built myself a 15TB Bitfenix Prodigy NAS which you featured last year on your WAN show for B.O.T.W. =) Still serving me very well today!
- defuct minitower ($250 when bought years ago, but considered "Free" for this purpose) - $10 flashdrive - freenas - second drive (500GB) $150 - $20 5.25"-to- 3.5" bay adapter - raid 1 - replacement RAM to 8GB ("free" from second hand collection) Best thing ive experimented with, especially with the plex server it runs, especially when adding a gigabit switch to the network, I get about 200MB/s before the buffers are filled, then im sadly stuck with 60MB/s or slower until either it flushes it's buffers or I reboot it, still fun though for something that didn't cost a lot.
I just don't get why people complain about sponsored videos. Do you want Linus to charge all of us to watch this types of video?! BE THANKFUL for those sponsors! They keep contents like this FREE!!!
As a photographer my images are critical. Back ups are routine now. I strongly recommend anything from Synology; fast, quiet, scalable and their custom OS is amazing!
Linus, you have just made my week. "Hard drive platters spin at hurricane force winds, with the read/write head just sitting mere nanometers above the platter. Basically, it's a fucking miracle."
Fast as Possible is you calling card. I know everything your talking about but these clips are the best by far. I have watched plenty of your vids, these are the best for everyone else not like me.
As a business PC user, I do not know the world of Linux. That being said, during a big storm our NAS unit bit the big one, and I could not access the data. (It turned out that the Ethernet interface blew out, and I could not reach the NAS on my network.) Boy did I ever learn a LOT over the next three days. Since my NAS unit had two mirrored drives, I hoped to recover data from one of the drives. Long story short, I soon learned that the NAS didn't store files in a structure that could be recognized or read from a PC. I finally found a simple utility on the web which could recognize the files stored within, and for $99 I could activate the the program to read and copy files in their native format that I could read on my PC. I had never been so scared in my life...
Nice, I asked for this a little time ago, and now they made it :D Awesome! Love this show! And yes, I do share it with people I know who will benefit from it ;) You're doing good Linus and Slick! Keep the videos comming! ;)
Between the more consumer Plug & Play options like the Seagate Central, the more prosumer/enterprise 1-5 bay solutions like the Western Digital My Cloud EX2 & EX4, to just plugging a USB HDD into your router or even building something like a Windows Home Server like Linus did a couple years ago on NCIX, there's an opition for almost everyone.
I think this is a great video informing of NAS storage and redundancy vs replication. However, I think a different video addressing the actual act of backing up (e.g. any software/automatic setup/features) would be an excellent addition! [I remember messaging Slick about this last year...]
I miss my NAS so much! I thought I could retire it as I have two enterprise level servers, but they're just too loud for home use! Do I feel a project coming on? Hell yes!
So what exactly is a NAS - is it a completely separate machine and if so, why not use a PC? How about a chromebook? You mention ISP speeds - what does your ISP have to do with moving data on an internal network? Is it wired? Wireless, wifi? Still don't see the role of ISP. How is this different to a standard server on ethernet, which is also, surely, network attached storage? Which is most cost effective? What problem is NAS trying to solve that a server cannot remedy? What reasons do people have for using them over a server? Does it have a static IP, can i host my own website? These are really basic questions.
A nas is on a local network. It can't be hacked without having direct connection or connecting to a pc on the network and going over the network to the nas
Quick question: Linus said in a backing up your data in the case of accidental deletion or viruses, is different from a RAID. I don't understand how the offsite NAS fixes this problem if it replicates the data, won't it replicate the delete/virus?
+Techquickie Explain difference between NAS and home server... Hardware, software, and role it fills. Is a NAS just another device that connects to the server like a desktop, set-top box, etc.? I'd always thought a server was just a bunch of HDDs that stored your data and could be accessed remotely from several connected devices... but that sounds like NAS, so is there more to servers?
How to choose a sound card or if you even need one at all, how to setup a network, how to set up a server, what is a server, different input and output ports (video, audio, other), choosing the right case, what is a bios, what is an operating system, what is a computer, choosing the right speakers, different drives (cd rom, cd rom rw, dvd rom, dvd rom rw, blueray, bluray rw, floppy disks), different drive speeds, choosing the right printer...
Hello Linus. First of all, I want to say that I've learnt a lot from you and NCIX's videoes. But my interest to watch them is reduzed. Reason is because of the lame jokes, which are repeated in every video. (Not the same joke, but the quality). Personaly i feel these "Techquickie" videoes should be all about quick, info without telling lame jokes as "Derp, size matters". You know what I mean? All in all, I still watch your videoes. I love how you and your team writes the keynotes on the screen, and use a lot of pictures from time to time in your videoes. I don't know if I share this view with others, but it is my opinion, comming from a TechN00bie ;)
A guide to setting up a home server or storage would be nice. Like 3 different price points or something. Im starting to get alot of components extra since i uppgrade often im sure alot are like me and could use something to do with everything
Does anyone really have data that sensitive they'd need multiple NAS's with RAID on each at home? Are they cracking the human genome at home or was that porn really that hard to find?
You should have said that you can make cheap nas out of old pc and HDD's. Many people have ooold pentium3/athlon pc running their home nas server. And haters i understand that if you are going to need 100gbp/s speeds Pentium3 grade cpu may be a bottleneck 8)
The problem with this solution is that those pcs are not very power efficient..... if they are gonna be on 24/7 you will be better off just buying very cheap AM1 mobo with cpu and some dc power supply that way your NAS wont take 300watts but like 25watts and of course quad core 2ghz cpu will be enough to support all your file transfers. I was thinking about repurposing old laptop mobo for that, problem is you can have max 2 sata (1hdd and 1from dvd drive with a cheap adapter) ports without paying arm and leg for minipcie sata card... So if you have an old laptop with busted screen and 2 drives is all you need then that míght be perfect solution.
Or just go a prebuilt you basically only pay a 100-200 dollar premium to get a basic NAS with a decent processor/ram over the cost of just buying the hard drives seperately you can't really build it yourself for cheaper than that (maybe 250-400) if you are planing on buying/building a NAS you need to first outline your NEEDS and then maybe a few wants what if you decide to do something later will your current solution be capable? if you just build or buy a system first before you outline your needs you may find out down the road what you ended up with just doesnt work for you.
well my 2ghz athlon xp pc eats around 100wats in idle and 150 in full cpu load.. if you build small nas pc or buy whole system, i bet that it costs more than electricity in old pc :) It is only the power efficiency what is bad in old computers, but that doesn't mean that they draw huge amounts of power.
NuffMan true but if the machine is gonna be running 24/7 it will add up. Just some calculations on top off my head - lets say your Athlon NAS will draw on average 110Watts where as AM1 based system will do like 20w(maybe even less beacuse of the extra cpu power it will idle more). That is 2640Watt hours a day vs 480. Which yearly is 963 Kilowatthours vs 175. In US the average electricity price is 12cents (in Germany 35cents). That means that running your old PC for a year will cost you almost 100 dollars more (115 vs 21) in US (and lot more in places where energy costs are hiugher). You can build miniITX AM1 pc for less then 200$ and propably get few bucks by selling your machine. It will also make a lot less noise then your old machine. ..... And another generation of AM1 apus is comming very soon and they use even less power (25w vs 15w at full load). So the machine will pay for itself in like 2years.
And there are some even cooler new technologies in HDDs like those hermetically sealed helium-filled ones. Those are so cool. I hope one day that there can be like some kind of optical-magnetic hybrid disk that stores extra information in an optical disk layer. The extra amount of storage would be incredible.
Thanks. Is there a way I can just use what Apple sells, maybe buy really HUGE drives, maybe 2 of them, and be done with it? So let's say a 20-30TB drive, which I work from, and then another 20-30TB as a backup which I backup let's say weekly? Or something?
Any suggestions for a backup solution that combines RAID redundancy to protect against HD failure with image-based backups and backup copies across multiple HDs all in a single NAS unit?
But wait, wouldn't one be very safe as long as they are running RAID 1, or in other words have a copy of each of their hard drives? Even if the NAS fails, the HDD's should still be fine, right? Also, can someone explain to me what scaling is? Looking at the Synology DS418play, is this a good option?
The point made starting at about 1:05 regarding the impracticality of setting up multiple RAIDs for each desktop system rings so goddamned true in corporate IT. I really, really, really wish people would stop buying servers with 3 drive RAID 5s by default because that's what their father and his father before them did. STAHLP THE MADNESS! But alas. Every new site I walk on to, there's like 20 servers, each with 3 drives, all waiting to fail and test your ability to manage your time well enough to get a new drive ordered and plopped into the machine before a second drive dies. It's as if people like tempting fate. Or even better. The file server with a 3 drive RAID 5. They needed space for their assortment of carefully collected useless junk, so instead of getting more drives for another array, they just buy bigger drives! Yeah, that's fine. Death by resilvering isn't really a thing. You go ahead and plop your 6TB of shit on 3 drives.
