What is fox hunting  

I remember many years ago a group of fox hunters trespassed on my grandfather farm, where the fox escaped on his land and the hounds started attacking his cows. He lots 9 calves to the hounds because the hunters couldn't get control of them so he and my uncle ended up having to shoot 14 dogs to stop them. Ended up with my grandfather going to court with the hunters and they lost being charged with illegal entry, trespassing, animal control misconduct, death of livestock and many others. That case ended up with all farmers in the area closing off access to their land to any fox hunting club for many years now.

Oscar Wilde called fox hunting "The unspeakable in pursuit of the inedible".

A rich ppl red flag, how lazy and cruel

fox hunting is the reason foxes were introduced to Australia which led to the extinction and endangerment of so many unique marsupials and ground dwelling mammals. it’s the reason Quokkas are now only found on Rottnest and why Quolls, Bettongs, Bilbies and Wallabies are so rare. So yeah i don’t think some cruel and inhumane sport is worth the mass ecological damage to an entire continent

Rich British people to be exact. Princess Diana stepped in and stood against the fox huntings

foxes and rabbits were both introduced by the british into australia for the wealthy to hunt. both are now incredibly invasive all over the country.

They still do it today in the uk however its illegal to hunt real foxes and now they just lay a scent trail for the dogs to chase. However the dogs don't know any difference and foxes still get "accidentally" killed

Imagine a person thinking that hunting an animal that’s at a disadvantage makes them some kind of master hunter

It’s ironic that we fought the British in the revolutionary war and adopted one of their hobbies from the early 19th century and even wear the same bloody red coat

The dogs also routinely get very bad injuries, and their horses as well. Very badly mistreated.

when I bought my property, the old owner allowed the hunt club to hunt on the property. When I moved there I said I didn't want them on my property. 1st, I would have to keep my horses in that day so the hounds don't get them in the fields, 2nd I do not want any sort of hunting on my property, I like all my wildlife. 3rd, I would have to go all around my property and open and close gates so they could get by, which I don't want to do. When I told them I wouldn't let them hunt on my property anymore they through a FIT! such entitlement! I had to fight them for over 2 years and I still get shit occasionally.

Fox hunting is the reason that so so many Australian animals went extinct. Rich people wanted to hunt foxes so they brought a bunch to Australia and all of a sudden they were a pest that kills all our small animals

Im a life long hunter and I still don't understand this hunting.

Very brutal, not even any skill involved when you send a pack of dogs, whats the point?

The casual animal cruelty we have in America is insane. I’m glad we’re making progress like how within the past 10-15 years or so, cat declawing has basically vanished.

genuinely a way to know someone is the worst kind of person

Grew up hunting and love it. But I was always told 1. Kill it first shot and if you don't then you put it out of its suffering. 2. You use everything from the animal or you donate it to someone who will use it

As a hunter from germany i honestly have to say i already consider trap hunters to be the lowest of the low, i don't even know if these "hunters" can even be called people. They are rich to a degree that they not only lost what it means to hunt but what it means to be humane and thus what it means to be human. They are even lower then the lowest.

I saw references of these in futurama never knew what they were. Here in Argentina gray foxes hunt small prays so the gauchos even let them live close to the cattle. Sometimes land owners shoot hunters if they catch them trying to kill some of "their fauna", they're proud caretakers of their small piece of paradise.

in the state of mass it’s illegal so someone (also on horseback) runs around trailing a scented lead for the hounds to run after so people kind of just treat it like posh cross country riding + jumping and the hounds get exercised and rewarded at the end :))

While some clubs still use real foxes, there's a large number who have switched to using rags with fox scent which they drag along a predetermined route and leave at the end point. If you do petition/protest against fox hunting in your area, make sure you're targeting the scum that still use real foxes and not the clubs that use scented rags.

It’s crazy how rich people hunt is so cruel when poorer people hunt in a much more civilized and (potentially) environmentally-friendly way

Doesn’t sound like anybody has done any research for their statements. They don’t use foxes for fox hunting anymore. They just use a scent bag the dogs follow the scent bag trail and the hunters followed that trail found by the dogs. But there’s probably no point in discussing it because once a dog gets hold of a bone, even if it’s not a real bone and just a stick, there’s no letting go.

We need a Fox Hunter Hunting Party, where we go hunting for Fox Hunters. It's only fair.

This is the original basis of the Disney movie "The Fox and the Hound" which is based on the 1967 book with same name written by Daniel P. Mannix & Illustrated John Schoenherr.

I lived in Cornwall for many years and have seen this happen, about 30 dogs and 20 guys on horseback in their tweed, mostly with rifles

I’ve even heard old hunters say they feel really bad when their dogs actually catch the animal and kill it themselves just because they aren’t humane they’re still wolves

Always a new messed up tradition i didnt know about. The Incredible music is awsome btw. Thank you Maya.

The incredibles detective in the background makes this all the more terrifying

People aren't obsessed with fox hunting, the rich are.

I grew up hunting pest animals here in Australia. My dad taught us that sometimes animals have to go away for one reason or another, but us as hunters have a duty to make sure the animal doesn't suffer. Tldr, hunting in this way goes totally against my personal morals.

Its a classic British Rich people thing- classic in that it's incomprehensible to anyone who isnt rich. Its illegal in the UK but they do it and no one stops them.

God she is so awesome. Stating the facts witch chest and then saying what she doesnt like with reasoning. I wish everyone was like her😢

It’s banned in the UK but it’s remained a sport where the dogs follow runners with a scent so you can still have the fun of the chase without killing foxes.

I'm from Loudoun County Virginia, where fox hunting is still popular amongst the super wealthy, old-money, alcoholic, trophy wives. I've actually been on the hunt with a former girlfriend. It's fun to ride around, dressed like an idiot, but the end goal is awful. Fortunately, it's pretty rare for the hounds to actually catch a fox because large scale building development has pushed them out of the area. While the practice is incredibly stupid and cruel, it's basically ceremonial at this point.

Most of the time the hounds will only catch/kill old or sick foxes. Majority of the time its a coyote or a deer they chase.

I know people who fox hunt as a (now retired) equestrian. At least in my area (Minnesota), no foxes were actually hunted let alone killed. Only rarely were dogs taken out, and when done a scent lure was used on a predetermined trail where the dog handlers or other people would wait at the end to reward and then collect the hounds. The dogs would be sent out, the riders could either follow the dogs or if there were no dogs they could choose from a handful of routes to take to the end. It was essentially “extreme trail riding” lol. I’m not sure about it in other states nor do I know the exact laws surrounding it, I just know from what I’ve heard from the head of our local club who I worked with at my part time job and then the stories from a few of my friends and coach at one of the barns I rode/exercised horses at who had taken the lesson horses fox hunting. It’s true that this is the history of fox hunting, but the more contemporary version with no actual foxes killed could maybe explain the existence of fox hunting clubs in the states to this day? Idk. I know in England the hunting of the fox is illegal but “hunts” like I described above are still around and are the foundation of the modern equestrian sport of “hunters over fences” or hunters. For clarities sake, so no one thinks I’m defending hound or fox hunting, I am against hound hunting but am fine with other kinds of hunting dogs (flushing spaniels and retrievers) as they don’t have contact with the animals until after it’s death. Hound hunting is excessively violent and cruel to the hunted animals and is unnecessary. The only reason it still survives to this day is because of people viewing it as a “sport” or hobby because it certainly isn’t a sustainable nor ethical way of hunting meat for food. This can be seen by the targets of this form of hunting often being trophy animals such as large predators like bears and mountain lions, killed mainly for their pelts and to taxidermy. Hunting should be done to gather what you need and can use and no more, and the final moments of the animal’s life should be considered and executed quickly to avoid prolonged suffering. I have family that hunts and the end goal is always food for the family, not killing an animal purely for the act of killing like in hound and big game trophy hunting…

I'm an avid hunter and all around outdoorsman. Always thought this was a UK thing. Never viewed it as hunting because it's not. Had no idea that they did this in the states... You know if you let your dog chase wildlife you can get a fine for harassing wildlife. Dressing up like a dub and getting on a horse and allowing your dogs to tear apart a fox somehow makes that different? How this is allowed in Colorado where it's illegal to hunt elk with a scoped inline muzzleloader is astounding.

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Man will always find a way to be cruel. Whether it be to each other, or to the other inhabitants of this great world that we're privileged to have been bequeathed.

Still the same in the U.K. sadly often referred to as “the unspeakable chasing the uneatable”. It’s actually illegal but trail hunts often result in foxes being hunted “mistakenly” as if people actually believe that!

Is that Slay the Spire music in the background?

Bear hunting is similar, except the dogs run them up trees and the hunters use rifels.

Bear hunting in the northern Midwest is basically dogs treeing the bear and then the hunters shoot the bear out of the tree. No $hit.

Yet another shining example of why we should Eat. The. Rich. This is just a sociopathic power trip by people who hold authority instead of being locked in an asylum, like they should be.

It would probably be more fun with just one dog to point in the direction and everyone else having bows. Already sounds more fun.

That’s disgusting… humans really don’t understand what it means to be sentient.

The way I understand it, fox hunting is just an excuse for people to get drunk and ride around while pretending they care about some common objective, similar to golf, but much more morally reprehensible. Inb4: I know some people take golf seriously and enjoy it for the sport, but a LOT of people consider the game secondary to drunk driving golf carts and hanging with their buddies.

They do not kill the foxes these days. Most time they just use scent to run the dogs. What she is describing is fox hunting many years ago. They are no longer allowed due to bag limits and season

I once saw a documentary about that in England. It’s sooooo cruel! Not only for the animals that are being hunted but also the dogs and horses. The hunters seem to have no empathy. They treated their pets so horribly! I still think about that and get angry…

How do people enjoy that wtf

I stand against unnecessary cruelty in every form. On the other hand we must realize that tragically in nature every animal dies in pain. We are all food for something else.

Dogs chase squirrels. Foxes are bigger, so we can “help”

This obviously started way back in the day as a way to protect livestock, and someone thought, "mmmm, we should do this every year"... it's a shame the call this a sport....

What a perfect woman

The fox and the hound movie... I cried when I saw the movie as an 8 year old

"Its tradition!"

People say the exact same thing about duck dogs. If the animal's being torn apart by your dogs something's seriously wrong with their training.

Hunting is the most Cowardly thing ever...

Its stupid. There was a beautiful fox where i use to live and i threw peanut butter sandwiches to her and after about a year or so heard her vixen scream so i made her some sandwiches and opened my window to see her and two of her babies. I was so excited. I didnt want them to be dependent on me. She needed to teach them how to hunt. So i only fed them once in a while.

Wait until Maya finds out how wolves and coyotes hunt.

To be clear, fox hunting is not an American tradition, it's an English tradition (specifically for the rich).

This lady is the real fox

what manly men they are, such fierce warrior hunters

🦊 hunting is what needs to happen at 🦊 propaganda studios and executive offices, where foxes are most of their talking heads, and the producers and execs responsible for scripting.

As an equestrian and K9 handler who values heritage sports, we can find a way to "Fox Hunt" WITHOUT cruelty. Such as dummy lures, hell I've even seen cowboys work their cattle horses on RC cars for practice! 😂 I understand people wanting to keep the sport alive and maybe even the social status because fox hunting and things like Polo are aligned with a lot of that. So I disagree with those people that still think that it is necessary to cause foxes this much stress and harm. It's not that I don't appreciate the sport, it's just that there are ways to enjoy it without the unnecessarily harmful elements!❤

It’s inhumane to make a horse carry someone so pathetic.

I just googled if fox hunting is still legal over here in the Netherlands cuz I thought we only did the fake stuff with the scent trails but apparently it's still legal. (even though I did find something about a ban that passed in 2002 but I guess it's just not enacted or something :S)

I agree it’s not real hunting and it’s cruel. Nobody tell her what animals do to each other in the wild though.

Most people that hunt foxes use a rifle not dogs

I thought it was a radio scavenger hunt thing

I’ve been fox hunting with my family in Ireland difference is they own a farm and have to kill a fox that give them too much trouble but at least they use a gun and don’t have 20 hounds tear it apart they’re just protecting their livestock

She's intelligent, funny and beautiful.

Lets do some fox hunter hunting

It's crazy that this is seen as a sophisticated, upper class activity when the reality of it is so nasty. It's no better than fighting dogs in your backyard, but because it's rich people, it's fine.

Dont forget thats also how escaped slaves (of all colors) were often handled, usually the ones that kept getting out bc they were infact looked at as property so it could get pricey.

We had a very famous fox hunting event in my hometown on long Island. 60 years ago it was a drag hunt. Meaning they dragged a sented drag and the hounds followed that. No actual fox was involved. And that is what a vast majority if not the only hunts they have today.

In America, fox hunting is also called "fox chasing", as it is the practice of many hunts not to actually kill the fox (the red fox is not regarded as a significant pest). Some hunts may go without catching a fox for several seasons, despite chasing two or more foxes in a single day's hunting.

As a lifelong hunter of waterfowl, big game, and others, I can easily say I would never partake in this kind of a hunt at any point. Inhumane.

There was a point in time where that fox wasn't a fox but a human, very sadistic practice. Ramsay Bolton type mentality.

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ive been put with hunt saboteurs in the uk for a few years - we try to monitor, film, and document criminal action. It may be illegal in the UK but that doesnt stop the scumbags. Bloodsport is vile!

It's a quick death. Being torn apart in the wild is nothing different than what could normally happen.

There is a bit wrong here, the one in Colorado is actually for Coyotes and not Foxes. They just have the same dress and use similar dogs. Also, in England it is not allowed to be killed by the hounds but rather shot by the humans. Basically it is just chased down but the dogs but they are trained not to attack now.

Gold shaw farm is trying to stop a similar practice for the same reason. And because they tresspass on privite propedty constantly since theres no control od the dogs. I hope both of yall are sucessful its all inhumane

How would a fox die in the wild? It's either torn apart by wild animals or dies from disease/naturally. If it doesn't affect population or ecosystem, what's the difference? People just get pissy that we do it, when it happens in the wild daily

It is inhumane like she said, because it’s not humans doing the hunting in the first place.

Lets find these so called fox hunters and throw them to the wolves. & I’m not meaning the expression “throw them to the wolves”… Like literally, let throw them to a giant pack of hungry extremely pissed off savage canine wolves. 🐺 & then make a painting about it. 🖼️

Looks like theres a nice hill in the distance, not too far, not too close, just an observation lf course

It makes me really upset the concept of hunting has been conflated with murder. hunting is a natural ecological function that many species engage in including humans, it's a nethod for attaining resources and as cruel as it is, we are a predatory species and it serves a role in the ecosystem. This isn't hunting tho. It's cruelty for the sake of cruelty

The Incredibles music really drives the point home

its big in se PA but theres foxes everywhere so its fine

I seen a documentry years ago about britsh aristocrats and fox hunting, it was mostly about the history and elitism of the ''sport'', some fox hunters let a film crew follow them around, the bit I'll never forget is the fotage they got of well to do snobby woman with a face like a horse that got hit by a train dismount and bearly duck behind a heaged row to drop a steamer, with not even so much as a wipe back on the horse, the narrator painted as ''when nature call, blah blah blah'', but I just couldn't get over the fact this woman dropped a shit in plain sight of everyone and didn't even bother to wipe her ass, there's homless people with more class than a woman with wealth and a title.

“What’s for dinner honey?” - Fox limbs

nice Phish reference

shes cute

Love to hear we arent evolving at all and some of us are just as crazy as before. Arguably more

Do you have hunt sab movements in the US?

Although not really “fox” hunting, I know a place on the mainland that does this sort of thing to chase coyotes off their property. The dogs do sometimes catch the coyotes, but usually they just chase them away from the pastures. The dogs are safe, trained, and all wear gps collars so they don’t get lost. Fox hunting for sport though, seems cruel and unnecessary in most circumstances.

Man got rid of bears and wolves in the UK. This led to an overpopulation of foxes that caused massive problems for farmers. So maybe while you ban the hunting, reintroduce bears and wolves!