MrHoward888 You must be confusing it with 3D Vnand chips for SSD from Samsung, which are layerd similar in a way I guess ... but are not remotely the same thing.
***** When they released GDDR5 with the 4000 series, it was very successful. I remember the 4870 and 4850 were very powerful cards and the best cards for price/performance.
muiecopyright yes, get 2 r9 290x refference, take off the plastic covering the radiator, connect them in a way that both radiators touch both sides of a toast, done!
To say it in another way: You could either eat a pizza in the traditional way (GDDR5) or you can create a Pizza cake by stacking the slices one on top of the other (HBM) I'm hungry, don't judge me =(
***** And we just have to believe you on your word? Right. Proof or it didn't happen. And you're saying that your friend that doesn't know a lot about hardware, just bought the newest enthousiast-grade videocard? Sure.
1.They are limited to 4gb right now 2. They said they were going to have titanX beating performance 3. AMD released benchmarks of the furyX beating a titanX, but it never happened.
ahmed khader 20 years from today there will no more Tuna. The number of Tuna fish in the world will be so little that the prices will either be ridiculously high, or it will be illegal to fish them
Teh Haxor Well because those GPUs i think CPUs won't quite do it. But since you don't want a toaster, can I please eat those pop tarts that just popped up?
I'll say it again, currently and until VRAM sizes increase the thing about HBM that has me the most interested is how it ends up working with memory stacking and DX12. Yes, it is undeniable 4GB is restrictive, but if the bandwidth increase means having a 2 or 3 card crossfire system with memory stacking is going to work as expected then it will be worth it for early adopters. Having 3 way crossfire system with 12GB stacked memory would be awesome once FuryX prices drop some and devs implement stacking support on new, DX12 games.
Right now it's mainly heavily modded games that go beyond 4GB consistently, but as 4K gaming becomes cheaper going over the 4GB mark will be commonplace.
i remember when i was first getting into pc gaming and i saw a video describing (in theory) how hbm would work,it was just a concept than. now years later its here, its awesome to watch the tech you love progress.
So this is high bandwidth memory for the video subsystem. Ok, that's nice. Optane (name?) is high bandwidth memory for the general system. We've yet to see an example, but it's kind of cross between an SSD and system memory. They get that working, it's going to blow the PCI SSDs right outa the water...
Great video Bro please do more PC builds and reviews with fury x I kind of of fallen in love with this graphic card but only I wish I could have had one....
Daniel McKenzie Shouldn't buy from alienware their laptops are a rip off and you can build a good PC for way less. If for some reason you need a laptop to game on you should just buy one from MSI of Gigabyte.
my 980ti will be my last GDDR5 card. i can't wait til 2018 comes with Nividia's new Volta chips, they'll probably have HBM2 and AMAZING 4k performance!
1:10 - Its not a silicon wafer, its a die. A small cut of from a wafer. 4:10 - The limitation on 4GB of memory is not due to cost, but rather due to a limitation in the HBM1 standard. It only supports 1GB per stack. HBM2 will solve that and support up to 8GB per stack having a maximum amount of memory around 32GB
Acid Panda nah, they just didn't think of it, and now that the 4k results are showing what a boost it provides they are intent on making sure they were always going to include it on their _next_ cards, for sure...
I am looking to build a new pc and I was wondering if I was to move my storage from old computer to the new one (250 gb) and move it to the new pc containing new parts, will the old storage contain window 7 and photos, etc? Will it change if I add 1 tb storage?
***** the 980ti only performs better than the fury x at 1080p. And it STILL has not been fully unlocked in ccc to overclock so you have to wait for third party solutions to do so. In 1440p and 4k the fps are either the same or a few fps difference for either fury or 980ti. The fury was marketed as a 4k card, and in crossfire sees a 80 - 90% increase.. while nvidia sli only sees 60 - 70%.. To water cool a 980ti buying a hybrid, or doing custom you're looking at 800-900$ There's positives and negatives to both cards.
Is it better to have a FURY X or a GTX 980 TI to game for a longer period of time? I don't mean playing 4 hours in a row but the longevity like 2-3 years. So is the 980 ti will last fir less year than the fury x and also, will the performances will be better in next games than gddr5?
I need help please. I have a PC with an AMD A10 processor, 4Gb of RAM and AMD HD Graphics. I use it for 3D modeling and videogame development and I'm going on a low budget here. I am a big noob in this and I was wondering what should I buy, 4Gbs of RAM more, or a low-end graphics card (like a Geforce Gt 610). Thanks for helping.
@NCIX Tech Tips I have had two different AMD Fury owners online say that their HBM Memory Stacks I have pointed them to the Video with linus explaining that Vram does not stack can anyone confirm that this is the case and that HBM Vram does not stack or has something changed that I am unaware of.
The 390X includes HBM memory too! And with both Nvidia and AMD going to HBM the Fury-X can only get stronger with each driver update. Something to think about. (GTX 770 owner about ta upgrade here)
cant wait for hbm... im confused bout nvidias 1080 and hbm... linus, i want that toaster... we all deserve evenly toasted toast! :) love your vids guys keep it up!
What's so confusing about the 1080? :D It's GDDR5X memory is just buffed GDDR5, so no real tech difference. But Volta and Vega in 2017 will almost certainly utilize HBM2.0 memory.
1Q: What is HBM? 1A: HBM is a new kind of memory that tackles the problem of size, bandwidth, and power consumption. 2Q:How does it work? 2A: It works by attaching on to a interposer connected directly to the GPU/CPU via TSVs. 3Q: Will my toaster toast both sides of 🍞 perfectly? 3A: No. 😞
***** That seems to go along why AMD GPU do better at higher bandwidth demanding game settings at like 2K-4K resolutions and get close and edge out its competing GPUs.
Won't cooling be an issue with the VRAM stacked vertically? I mean with GDDR5 every stack of memory could be cooled individually, in some cards even being taken care of by a special cutout in the heatsink. Will the memory heat up more when it's on top of another or is it so efficient that that's no concern?
Browsing these because I am bored in 2017... Watched this thing and am still wondering about the toaster toasting both sides equally toasty. Might try 2 GTX 480's or 2 Radeon's in SLI/Crossfire but skip a PCI slot between them and put your bread there.
Can you make an episode where it shows the Teleprompter on the corner of the screen so that way we can see how good and or bad linus is at reading the script?
In my opinion HBM puts GDDR5 to shame it has way smaller area,better power consumption and higher memory cap, I am very sure this will become AMDs new standard really soon.
why would you need to overclock hbm 4096 bit memory bus seams to me the gpu is the bottle neck not the memory so things can only get faster.if you have 4 memory chips staked at 1000 mhz is that not x4
isnt toast not even on both sides because, well at least with our toaster, when you push the thing down both toast slots go on, and each slot has its own heater on each side so theres 2 heaters in the middle so the side facing the middle gets hotter much faster, so if there was only 3 heaters vs 4 it would be both more power efficient it would also get it toasted even on both sides
I absolutely don't care about the technology that went into making a product. All I care about is numbers: price, performance, temperature, power consumption, and of course from factor but to a lesser extent. Anything else is for the manufacturer to brag about.
