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What Is IMPERMANENT LOSS? DEFI Explained - Uniswap, Curve, Balancer, Bancor 

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@Finematics
@Finematics 4 года назад
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@90nomads
@90nomads 4 года назад
I got wrecked on AMPL/ETH pool - such bad timing 😥
@anon-jo5gm
@anon-jo5gm 3 года назад
What happens in the "opposite" scenario where token A increases in price and token B remains the same? What happens if both tokens increase in value? (Can't find the answer anywhere)
@jadeemme3697
@jadeemme3697 3 года назад
Hey, would you be able to explain how APRs are calculated/executed for LP providers? Some of those APRs listed are insanely highly, like 1000% APR. Is that too good to be true, and how do the LPers accrue this APR? Through tokens? Through the coins they put into the LP?
@siralexbateman
@siralexbateman 3 года назад
Yeah, do you effectively get more if the opposite happened? The coin value goes down. Do you get the coins back plus more $?
@AlexTrout79
@AlexTrout79 3 года назад
I’ve been affected by both impermanent and permanent loss
@fatjohn1408
@fatjohn1408 3 года назад
I could listen to you saying 'arbitrageur' all day.
@rafaelfarcher6955
@rafaelfarcher6955 3 года назад
My new notification sound.
@bloodthyrsty
@bloodthyrsty 3 года назад
@@rafaelfarcher6955 :D :D
@trapOrdoom
@trapOrdoom 3 года назад
On my life!
@randomvids9388
@randomvids9388 3 года назад
Lol
@atletiekcoach2552
@atletiekcoach2552 3 года назад
😂
@scottPL77
@scottPL77 3 года назад
I've already gone through two videos on your channels and both explained to me difficult concepts which I failed before to understand by reading about them. Thanks for that. Really good ratio of knowledge shared vs. video length :)
@gwho
@gwho 2 года назад
This didn't explain jack.
@BillBlackfund4u
@BillBlackfund4u 2 года назад
@@gwho Made sense to me...
@crvne
@crvne 2 года назад
o0o I love that! knowledge:vid Length is a new key metric imo.
@cryptomadness7271
@cryptomadness7271 2 года назад
@@gwho go back to one of his beginner videos.
@Hopeyoumakeit
@Hopeyoumakeit 3 года назад
your channel is a gem
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 года назад
thanks! 🙌
@beny.5736
@beny.5736 4 года назад
I guess the key lesson is that if you are providing liquidity, do so in assets that are expected to maintain their relative value over the long term if you don't want to suffer from impermanent loss.
@gnarxy
@gnarxy 3 года назад
but you're missing the point of the LP tokens. Say you are doing a SOME TOKEN/DAI pair.. and providing the liquidity. DAI is a stable coin.. so even if SOME TOKEN goes up 500% in value, which would give you impermanent loss of about 25% of SOME TOKEN. But you also received the LP token for that pull and are farming more of SOME TOKEN at a 2000% APY, the additional SOME TOKENS you are earning and able to harvest, far outweigh the impermanent loss.
@mr.november1857
@mr.november1857 2 года назад
How do you know that they’re going to maintain their relative value? You don’t. Especially if it’s two assets you’re providing - making it that much challenging. The incentives I believe and the lack of fear can help - just don’t know anyone knows if anyone knows anything tbh
@parrishdominguez3495
@parrishdominguez3495 2 года назад
@@gnarxy If you see this comment can you look at my question I posted up top :), I think you just answered my question. Is it fair to say if the APY is higher than the Impermanent Loss, and assuming the Assets didnt drop to 0. Profits will be made?
@Showmetheevidence-
@Showmetheevidence- 2 года назад
True, except crypto is - by it's nature - so volatile that it's almost impossible to predict. Stable coins might be the only ones that have any level of stability. Pesonally I think for smaller investors you're actually better off just staking coins.
@Showmetheevidence-
@Showmetheevidence- 2 года назад
@@mr.november1857 They're mostly making it up! No-one can accurately predict the ratios of coin values...
@theprez77
@theprez77 4 года назад
Its great that Count Von Count is teaching Defi to the kids.. Great vids, thank you kindly for making, but sorry had to do it.
@youtubeismyjockey7581
@youtubeismyjockey7581 3 года назад
Well explained, the calculation example really helps!
@geekkstuff6674
@geekkstuff6674 2 года назад
Finally understood permanent loss. Better than most videos on the topic. Loves the examples on how much you can lose.
@elhexidente9832
@elhexidente9832 3 года назад
Cant believe i didn't find this channel earlier! Thank you!
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 года назад
I'm glad you found it now :)
@aaronfreeman4144
@aaronfreeman4144 3 года назад
This channel is awesome. I'm grateful for your expertise and time.
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 года назад
Thanks! Great to hear :)
@giordanogiordani81
@giordanogiordani81 3 года назад
Hi, Finematics Team. How are you doing? Guys please, allow automatic subtitles in your videos. Maybe it will help a lot of others people, subscribers of your channel and me as well. As a no-english speacker even though been fluent in english, subtitles always help...thanks and congrats for your excellent work here. Cheers
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 года назад
thanks, started adding it for the new videos
@JustMe-dw9rl
@JustMe-dw9rl 3 года назад
Wow I’ve just found these videos. You explain everything in a succinct way with all the pertinent information. Thank you! It should help a lot of people.
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 года назад
thanks!
@Bashar3A
@Bashar3A 4 года назад
Great video. I'm holding on to some volatile assets I'm expecting to raise in price in near future, and thus reluctant to putting it in pools.
@nonamedlish
@nonamedlish 3 года назад
Thank youman, I finally understand. Trying to learn this by reading about it was a nightmare
@BIGSUCCC
@BIGSUCCC 3 года назад
I never knew your liquidity can actually appreciate in value other than fees if both assets rise in price, I always was under the assumption best case scenario you can pull out 100% of what you put into your LP + fees, worst case loosing value if your token pairing decreases in value + fees.
@Rompelarueda
@Rompelarueda 3 года назад
in non-stablecoin pools, yes, if both assets increase in USD price, you will pull out more USD value than you provided, and depending on the IL (how much their pump differed), come out also with more of eachcoin due to fees.
@coreed3323
@coreed3323 2 года назад
This was extremely well explained. The best presentation I have seen on impermanent loss. It finally makes sense. Thank you. 👍
@itsnothat
@itsnothat 3 года назад
Thank you. Fantastic video. Arbitrageur part was explained in simple terms which was helpful putting together the whole concept.
@jeromio21
@jeromio21 3 года назад
Thanks man , you are making Defi really accessible for everybody :)
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 года назад
Great to hear! Thanks :)
@arnaud4950
@arnaud4950 4 года назад
Hello Finematic , at 3:57 you write 524.83 ETH/DAI insteed of 524.83 DAI/ETH. Really nice video, thanks for all your work.
@Gibonsli
@Gibonsli 3 года назад
Thank you for the professionalism!
@andina116
@andina116 2 года назад
I have gained a lot from defi mining, and I like this project.
@mattdhorstman
@mattdhorstman 3 года назад
Clear, concise, well-illustrated example. Well done.
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 года назад
thanks! :)
@BEASTNYC
@BEASTNYC 2 года назад
LP Impermanent Loss in a nutshell, as I think i got it: Both go up - small loss ? One goes up - medium loss ? One goes down - high loss ? Both go down - highest loss ? Both return where they were - no loss ?
@blackalert3383
@blackalert3383 3 года назад
Thanks for another great video. Would love to see another video on impermanent loss when it’s a non-stablecoin so two volatile cryptos. And any tips on managing that
@internationalgolfconstruction
@internationalgolfconstruction 3 года назад
Best vid on impermanent loss.
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 года назад
thanks!
@marcelchuo
@marcelchuo 3 года назад
Best explainer video on DeFi out there. Thanks man
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 года назад
Thanks!!
@temitopeagoro4603
@temitopeagoro4603 3 года назад
Could you possibly delve into Decentralized autonomous organizations? I love your content and explanations. I am really learning a lot! Thank you!!
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 года назад
Sure, there is a plan to make a video about DAOs soon! Stay tuned :)
@JohnAlanWoods
@JohnAlanWoods 2 года назад
Great video - I send this to anyone that needs to understand IL.
@Jesussaft
@Jesussaft 2 года назад
Great video! I am currently investing in a token which I expect to blow up soon (x10 and above). I thought I am smart by providing liquidity because I would gain fees on all the buys coming in but now it looks like there will be serious impermanent loss. Time to get out of the liquidity pool :D
@alainlavallee3448
@alainlavallee3448 3 года назад
Finally a clear explanation , great
@zegikniet9999
@zegikniet9999 3 года назад
the intro to this video fits me perfectly. I did indeed not do any research before hand, only after hand YOLO
@zegikniet9999
@zegikniet9999 3 года назад
btw i nominate these video's to be the most clear explenation i ever got anywhere. very well done
@justdoitFR
@justdoitFR 4 года назад
Thank you so much for this great content. I am still trying to find out what could be risks for providing liquidity for a pair like USDT vs USDC... Of course excluding any smart contract bug or any hacks because those risks are just inherent to everything in crypto.
@Finematics
@Finematics 4 года назад
The main risk is that one of the stable coins can lose its peg to the US dollar. USDT, for example, is not completely transparent, so we don't exactly know if they have all the assets to cover their outstanding USDT balance.
@kenmeyer100
@kenmeyer100 3 года назад
@@Finematics yeah, it's like you want to cash out your chips and the casino operator say 'sorry, we have no more dollars for you'
@postmanwithsnow
@postmanwithsnow 2 года назад
There are none. Only risk is a bank run which won't occur until something really bad happens. But then all your other crypto will most likely be worth nothing anymore either 😉
@tyvaughnholness1985
@tyvaughnholness1985 3 года назад
This was fantastic, thank you! I appreciated the detail on the examples as well.
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 года назад
Glad it was helpful!
@ericniyongira4467
@ericniyongira4467 3 года назад
This channel is really awesome. I am new to Yield Farming - Providing Liquidity, and I hope to learn more from you! Anyone who can recommend me the best way to start?
@timschierenbeck2758
@timschierenbeck2758 3 года назад
Thanks so much again! You are like the teacher i wished for in shool :-)
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 года назад
thanks! :)
@Molecularjewelry
@Molecularjewelry 2 года назад
still the clearest explaination I can find - visuals help thanks
@rsstnnr76
@rsstnnr76 3 года назад
Great video. Unfortunately, I have no idea what's going on.
@jonowirion
@jonowirion 3 года назад
haha join the club lol
@nazty121
@nazty121 3 года назад
Haha love it I'm the same but slowly learning!
@tobiprivat8878
@tobiprivat8878 4 года назад
great! totally underrated content!!
@theflipside2709
@theflipside2709 4 года назад
Clear, succinct explanation!
@kenmeyer100
@kenmeyer100 3 года назад
Very valuable explanation! I have been wading through tons of materials where the authors themselves did no seem to understand the underlying concepts and just spit out some gibberish
@rolandbole5824
@rolandbole5824 2 года назад
I got hit by IL on the YOK/CKB 50/50 pool. One simple strategy against IL would be to provide LP to a value you are OK losing and take out any additional profits earned from yield farming weekly or at a frequency of your choice.
@MrGrannyStylez
@MrGrannyStylez 2 года назад
thanks for explaining that concept in 10minutes! I like the visuals. keep up the good work :)
@jeremyhazel9074
@jeremyhazel9074 3 года назад
Man.....subscribed...you killed it....love the way you explained the concepts
@0x0x0xWIP
@0x0x0xWIP 3 года назад
arb makes sense, but what happens when the market crashes? Do you just collect fees and hodl in the LP until price is back up?
@egregius9314
@egregius9314 3 года назад
If both of your tokens crashed equally, you can either HODL your LP tokens until the prices are back up, or take them out. But you might as well park them until they get back up, unless you expect them to get back up unequally. Basically, you want to take them out when the ratios have returned to what you started with, unless the fees have been *really* good to you.
@mattschroeder1100
@mattschroeder1100 3 года назад
It really boils down to if you believe the tokens will increase in value in the future. Let's put staking aside: If you wouldn't keep your money in an asset, it's probably a good idea to cut your losses and move forward somewhere else
@soundisfunction
@soundisfunction 2 года назад
This channel is truly phenomenal
@hugoamorim5301
@hugoamorim5301 4 года назад
Yes this is bad in current situation that we are huge bull market but in last 3 years was good. Nice video
@starblazer13
@starblazer13 4 года назад
Another excellent video. How about a video explaining the whole Polkadot ecosystem and their potentials? ;)
@Finematics
@Finematics 4 года назад
Thanks! Yes, I want to get to Polkadot and Cosmos at some point
@omidsarayanibafghi222
@omidsarayanibafghi222 3 года назад
Awesome videos! You have a talent to comprehend and explain hard to grasp concepts in a brief yet comprehensive format.
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 года назад
thanks!
@GreenfieldPortfolioResearch
@GreenfieldPortfolioResearch 2 года назад
i'm amazed by the quality of the content. congratulations, yet again.
@PrisonerZ3RO
@PrisonerZ3RO 2 года назад
Best explanation EVER !!!!
@katyaolivan6085
@katyaolivan6085 3 года назад
Because of your vids, I understand everything better😃 thanks
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 года назад
Glad to hear that! :)
@limeroundup
@limeroundup 3 года назад
Incredible. Best explanation ever!
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 года назад
thanks!
@trevorryder9732
@trevorryder9732 4 года назад
Could you do a video on non-fungible tokens and their use so far and future use.
@scivanpoon
@scivanpoon 3 года назад
Can you pls explain how interest rate is calculated automatically on a defi lending/borrowing pool? Thanks!!!
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 года назад
Great suggestion! Explaining how lending protocols work in DeFi is on the list of topics for future videos :)
@sebastienjurkowski
@sebastienjurkowski 3 года назад
Do you mean how the EPY is calculated or how the interest is automatically applied? The second is tied to the smart contract, to simplify, all the rules of 'interest' automation are programmed and propagated in the ETH blockchain. Hope that helps
@danielzirkel9616
@danielzirkel9616 3 года назад
Really goog explanation 👍🏻 Now I have understood the impermanent loss.
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 года назад
Thanks. Glad it helped! :)
@kokoro1404
@kokoro1404 3 года назад
thank you,, good job explaining,, now i can rest i think i am ok where my investments is.,, gracias
@GabrielRubens
@GabrielRubens 3 года назад
Great explanation, this channel is a hidden gem
@gmanova
@gmanova 3 года назад
what a fantastic explanation. thank you.
@TheRollupCo
@TheRollupCo 2 года назад
Your channel is amazing, very interesting DeFi video
@agentlier6974
@agentlier6974 4 года назад
You know your stuff really well man. Great in information 👍👍👍👍
@Finematics
@Finematics 4 года назад
Thanks!
@BEASTNYC
@BEASTNYC 2 года назад
good video - On average How long do you hold positions - a week, two weeks...?
@seraaron
@seraaron 3 года назад
So to avoid impermanent loss, is it only advisable to be a LP when the markets are relatively stable? Presumably when there's high volume and high volatility, there's more to be gained by being a LP, but also more potential for losses?
@sebrady951
@sebrady951 3 года назад
If you have a pair of volatile coins that are strongly correlated to eachother, impermanent loss would be mitigated
@raylay2197
@raylay2197 3 года назад
@@sebrady951 do you mean inversely co-related?
@sebrady951
@sebrady951 3 года назад
@@raylay2197 No I don't... That would maximize impermanent loss.
@samdeb6506
@samdeb6506 2 года назад
@@sebrady951 Ah ofcourse, because if two coins move in the same direction (volatile) the impermanent loss would be minimal (or less)
@sebrady951
@sebrady951 2 года назад
@@samdeb6506 exactly dude , it's all about the relative value between the two coins.
@Sonnyrei
@Sonnyrei 3 года назад
Great video, thanks! How did you get 19.07 on 3:31 and 0.93 on 3:36?
@carljustinemosquida9614
@carljustinemosquida9614 3 года назад
Hi, I wonder how did you learn this things, would you mind to point me to some books or other resources? That would be much appreciated. Anyway great video🔥, continue with your journey.
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 года назад
Multiple places, but the medium post that I linked in the video's description is one of the best. Thanks!
@OneTwoMark
@OneTwoMark 2 года назад
This is my first run of the video so im still hazy, will rewatch. But if you miss out on profits of a token going up in price, does that mean youre also safe from the losses of the token price going down?
@bootedbiz74
@bootedbiz74 2 года назад
Stake your LP tokens in a farm, the APY should cover most of your impermanent loss, unless your dealing with high volatile tokens, stick to the main pools generally,
@poltondt5067
@poltondt5067 3 года назад
can you please explain the formulas derived from the constant market maker formula to be able to get the amount needed for arbitrage?
@gutzz12
@gutzz12 4 года назад
very informative always buddy thanks
@ZzwhiskeybkszZ
@ZzwhiskeybkszZ 4 года назад
this video is gold
@Finematics
@Finematics 4 года назад
thanks!
@aaronsmith2929
@aaronsmith2929 2 года назад
Could you ever have the opposite? Impermanent gain? Such that you receive more of the coin that is worth more in value and less of the lesser value coin after providing liquidity?
@somers2020
@somers2020 2 года назад
Only if both tokens go up about the same, I believe.
@nada347_
@nada347_ 2 года назад
Liked and subscribed. Thank you for explaining these so effectively.
@gurpreetsaini7644
@gurpreetsaini7644 3 года назад
One can use Solver in excel to find out the revised amount of ETH and DAI shown at 3:30.
@lucsu1428
@lucsu1428 3 года назад
Wow, thanks for the explanation and the cool graphic!
@stevenxalchemy5906
@stevenxalchemy5906 4 года назад
Another awesome video. Well explained on impermanent loss. Keep up the fab work!!!!
@Finematics
@Finematics 4 года назад
Thanks Steven! :)
@2oe74jq
@2oe74jq 2 года назад
So to sum up, To avoid impermanent loss, one has to choose a stable coin, like USDT, and a coin (which you prefer) that you know is volatile but would eventually goes back to it's original price?
@2oe74jq
@2oe74jq 2 года назад
To go one step further, people who can manipulate the market to their liking would profit most from liquidity mining? Did I get it right?
@thefailedactor
@thefailedactor 3 года назад
Brilliant Video which helped a lot. So with Farming, and providing liquidity, volatility results in impermanent loss. De-risking this; stick to pools with single assets although the APY is lower. Can you have impairment loss in single pools? Or can I continue with lower APY; and if I exit, keep the original investment (Number of Tokens)
@jesseallan9006
@jesseallan9006 3 года назад
Excellent explanation. Thank you!
@MrDrinver
@MrDrinver 3 года назад
So if I'm really bullish on any coin it doesn't make sense to provide liquidity for it right? Cause of it goes up I'll lose some of it? But what about rewards for staking lp tokens, in what cases do they make up for the loss?
@Mike-cr1nc
@Mike-cr1nc 4 года назад
Thank you for this my friend, will recommend you !
@Finematics
@Finematics 4 года назад
Thank you too!
@LiteLiger
@LiteLiger 4 года назад
Very solid and analytical video. So in technicalities it would be lot safer to invest in stablecoin pairings right? Due to the nature of prices fluctuating lot less.
@NHill-dg8ch
@NHill-dg8ch 3 года назад
You just won a new subscriber
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 года назад
thanks!
@anon-jo5gm
@anon-jo5gm 3 года назад
What happens in the "opposite" scenario where token A increases in price and token B remains the same? What happens if both tokens increase in value?
@highwaymoses
@highwaymoses 3 года назад
if the value of one token changes relative to the other, impermanent loss will be incurred. If both tokens increase in value equally, their value relative to each other does not change so impermanent loss does not occur.
@onekycarscanners6002
@onekycarscanners6002 3 года назад
Can it be a positive value?
@23wiski
@23wiski 2 года назад
@@onekycarscanners6002 no otherwise you would be lifting both scales off the ground lol
@el0j
@el0j 2 года назад
@@23wiski lol
@klaymoon1
@klaymoon1 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for great explanation. I know I'm leaving a comment on 3 year old content. But, does anyone know if the other way around also happens? When you terminate the staking, can you have impermanent gain instead?
@J_Arthur_
@J_Arthur_ 3 года назад
Thanks for the great video! Would love to see one on Polkaswap And Sora! :)
@nadinounou
@nadinounou 3 года назад
Beautiful video thank you ♥️ If i am taking part in a liquidity mining pool with A/B, A and B being highly correlated, the risk is highly minimised right? if asset A grows 1000%, and asset B almost the same, then no impermanent loss if i got it well
@viurnne
@viurnne 3 года назад
great lengthy detail explanations
@KylanHurt
@KylanHurt 3 года назад
Very high quality video. Thanks you for making!
@HippiePajon
@HippiePajon 3 года назад
Thank you!! I finally understand this topic
@free.breaker
@free.breaker 3 года назад
Dude love the drawing style
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 года назад
Thanks! :)
@bespokespace2809
@bespokespace2809 3 года назад
fantastic video, thank you
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 года назад
thanks!
@gordongekko9742
@gordongekko9742 3 года назад
Great explanation! Thank you very much
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 года назад
You are welcome!
@rajvile
@rajvile 2 года назад
Hey ! Just subscribed, doing great in explaining DEFI. Can you do a video on pancakeswap and latest DEFI dex such as Sundae too
@David-124
@David-124 3 года назад
"Impermant Loss" is such a vague and unhelpful term. Any investment in shares, commodities, etc experiences impermanent loss - i.e. a decrease in value since purcase that is only crystalised if you sell your holding. Something like "price divergence" would be more relevant and specific
@DTalesMatter
@DTalesMatter 3 года назад
Yes but the example doesn't tick for me. I put 20 ETH and I have 19. something? Since I take %s on both coins I should have more of both in time. Not less.
@mohsenshahhosseini9758
@mohsenshahhosseini9758 3 года назад
In binance liquid swap you will earn bnb for liquidity mining and transaction fees. What currency are transaction fees? Which one of the 2 currencies you added to the pool?
@steveshuffle
@steveshuffle 3 года назад
mate this is amazing. All of your content
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 года назад
thanks!
@steveshuffle
@steveshuffle 3 года назад
@@Finematics thank YOU
@tryxlr8m8
@tryxlr8m8 3 года назад
Thank you, excellent explanation!
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 года назад
Glad it was helpful!
@mcJayX
@mcJayX 3 года назад
AMAZING video. Thanks for posting.
@-.TS.-
@-.TS.- 2 года назад
Definitely needed this!
@garg738
@garg738 3 года назад
VERY WELL EXPLIANED
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 года назад
thanks!
@oveyshd
@oveyshd 4 года назад
Great videos, great illustration! Very educative. Thank you
@Finematics
@Finematics 4 года назад
Thanks! Glad they are helpful :)
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