What Is Introverted Thinking? (Ti) | Cognitive Functions | CS Joseph 

My ESTP daughter is so cute. I figured her out when she was really young. When she was old enough to read and understand, I told her, "Okay smarty, I am still Mom. You have to do what I say, unless I ask you to sin. But it's your responsibility to learn what sin is first." She took that and ran. Her conscience is solid, developed, and she has always been confident in telling me, very politely cutely enough, when she thinks I'm wrong. And I have always honored her words, and when she's right, honored her objection. As an INFJ mom, she's been a blast to raise. We didn't have the ti, te, fi, fe vocabulary so I used words that fit our lifestyle. But the concept was the same.

I get the sense the Ti is gullible toward believing assertions that are "more logically consistent." But just because something is illogical and doesn't make sense based on the available information, doesn't mean it's not true. By the same token, just because something makes complete logical sense based on the available information doesn't mean that it is true, because there could be factors contributing to the truth that are completely impossible to know at that point.

I respect you Chase. I’m in tears right now because you have helped me piece this all together and now i have clarity. I understand myself like never before. Thank you! Thank you! THANK YOU!!!!!

Okay guys, in summary "facts don't care about your feelings"

My favourite thing to say as a Ti parent user is "facts don't care about you feeling". and it's true

I dated an ESTP and have seen real examples of what you're explaining and can confirm it is accurate. He got himself into trouble in college, with traffic tickets, and with every job he has had due to testing and bending rules. Most of the time he'd end up talking his way out of it and end up joking around with the person trying to write him up. The Persuader is an accurate label for him.

You've added so much value in my life, i can finally consciously arrange and align the pawns around me, to serve my purpose with great efficiency.

Watching you all way from Saudi Arabia , mind-blowing world we live in.

C.S. Thank you so much for always sharing your knowledge. So helpful to learn from you. - an INFP friend

I think Ti is my favorite function even though it’s my child

Thanks for your video! You're the most knowledgeable person on RU-vid on the MBTI! No debating!

My belief is that thinking functions are the tools you need for desperate circumstances, when there's no one and nothing reliable around and you have to pull yourself out by your sheer wits and action.

What I’ve learned to day: Ti - logic/cause and effect (individualized) Te - rationale/ judges others logic (Group think) As a Te user, I never realized how much I evaluate how others think. I judge others on how “smart” they seem. If they seem smart I respect them, if they seem dumb I delete their thoughts and opinions from my brain and keep conversations very surface and cordial. This makes my Fi tingle lol. Am I a good person? Hmmm

Te - Collective true/false by stats, data (Rational) Ti - Individual true/false (Logic) Fe - Ethics, majority rules with good or bad Fi - Morals, personal value judgment

I think I got my hypothesis. Ive had a friend tear down my beliefs whether im a Ti dom or not, but i now i know im the farthest thing from Fi, I usually do not view things as good or bad but within a grey spectrum that needs to be further analyzed. When you talked about sticking to our ideas unless given factual evidence is so true. We also do not know how to sugar coat the truth, and its not because were trying to be arrogant but that is literally the only way we know how to do it. My friend is an enfp and she drags me constantly into a wirl pool of self doubt. Thanks to your video i can affirm my type. Keep it up man!

oh wow i just realized why i and my best friend end up using some kind of different ways to aproach to a situation. (i am INFJ she is INTJ) Sometimes she tries to explain me something logical but i refuse it because it doesnt suit to my own logic. And even if she proves it i sometimes get really stubborn lol. But i think because i have Fe dominant too i also try to understand what people feel and think. Thats why its not that hard for me to understand other people's logic and try to accept it. But even if i try to accept their logic i usually dont abandon my logic totally i just say that "i understand and approve your statements and logic but in my opinion if this was like "a", it would be better."

As a Ti user, I appreciate your insights. Ever the skeptics, we may respect the consensus, but that doesn't mean we won't challenge it personally. What does it mean if you get a Jamba Juice, set it on the counter, and forget you had it? I find that I have to drink something immediately, or I will forget about it. Inferior Se at work? By the way, I watched all of these videos when they came out, but I am just now coming to comment years later because a tour in my mind palace led me back here. Yes, you are a resident there. Hope you are well, Chase.

Really appreciate your videos, better than most of the other stuff about cognitive functions I've devoured so far. Good job!

I have come to realize that this definition of Ti vs Te is highly influenced by David Powers and differs greatly with Jung's interpretation. Thinking based on common logic is not actually dominant Te, but it is an "unconscious " or immature form of thinking which Feeling dominant types and Perception dominant types use. For Jung Te is empirical thinking while Ti is theoretical ideas . The Ti dominant type is not so concerned with his idea being disproven, as he is with its originality and simplification. Te types love to debunk everything with objective fact.

Can't ever arrive at certainty through logic, but can appraise the strength or weakness of an argument.

2:25 Great analogy for Ti and Te, as well as the contrast between them!

Have you ever heard of the pandemonium theory model on decision making? This is the perfect analogy for Ti. In a nutshell, Ti would be where the group says a bunch of things, but then the "decision demon," as it's called in the system, decides regardless of the group, like a king would in a kingdom. Te, on the other hand, like you've described in your system (which is very useful btw!) would be much more demoncratic: all the members of the group vote and majority rules. Thanks very much for this explanation! I'm ENFP so I really struggled to understand Ti - my brain defaults to Te.

7:09 viewer note, types which have introverted thinking. Ti harsh truth 12:03

I like to see Ti as the knife of the sculpter and Te the rock/sculpture Ti shapes Te constantly. But Ti can only kill if it wasn't used on Te Te is the result, it wants to show off the work that was done on it The more precise Ti is (the knife cuts only the right places), the more accurate Te gets (it'll look like an acctual sculpture)

Really liked the Ti ~ truth part late in the video; I am never trying to hurt people's feelings lol! Why would that interest me?? Far too often, I find that people add a value judgment before they've understood the principle. There's nothing wrong with value judgments per se; but, as an example, feeding all the children in the world by using coercion to extract resources from the productive to give to the unproductive is a non-starter - if only because it abrogates the very principle upon which you purport to stand. That might not be an especially good example - but I think it gets the point across.

The truth never harmed anyone, it is their reaction to it that harms.

Also, I'm in awe of your mind and very grateful for your content - it really challenges me to think differently, and I get that weird but fascinating feeling like when you try to use your left hand to write with when you're right-handed.

Interesting video. As an INTJ with the Te function, it reminds me how frustrating it is when you deal with someone who has sound logical and internal consistency in their entire argument, but then you show them research proving that their premise that they built their argument upon was wrong, because although their logic was superb they had incorrect FACTS... and then they get so stubborn and can't seem to even process it.

Thank you for these kind of informing videos

Looking sharp in this video! 💯

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Holy crap the part about how your feeling effect how others think and vice versa, was an absolute revelation for me and I've been studying the cognitive functions for a couple years now!! Thank yoooou!

Reviewing the video again, is so funny your look 🤣 I'm an ENTP as well so I can absolutely relate to this kind of awkward 🤣 your clothes, your hair and mustache 🤣

*C.S. Joseph* : for the ENTP it's not about what's going on right now...which is the perspective of--" *Advertisement* : "SURPRISE!!!" *Me* : Accurate.

I see how we deal with our fears - through aspiring. the use of my child function Si - I have a duty to _______ but how do we deal with our worries correctly?

If people wanna understand ti a bit better you should read the book "Humility is the New Smart" by Edward D Hess

Very, very good. I do think - and I may be wrong - that Ti in the INTP is almost never "wrong"; rather, he/she may have started with a problematic axiom and thus built an inherently unsound system. In a very real sense, I (for example) "almost" like being wrong more than being right, because there's so much more new information to glean from the former: 1. What, precisely, was the dubious axiom? 2. How and why did I assume it true (this is the most information-dense and thus illuminating) 3. Did Fe play a part in my lack of thorough introspection on this particular matter (doubtful; but worth taking a look lol)? I find that the ENTP is the enjoyable "debate/discussion" partner. - intp

Thank you for mentioning Ad Hominem!

I can totally relate to the TI hero. I care about the truth. I don't care about your feelings about the truth. However, I don't like to hurt them with the truth sometimes. for example - if human's gender is determined by genitals then there are only two genders but I don't wanna force anyone to feel in a certain way that can make them live with emotional pain. I'm not so pushy about it like some peoples like Jordan Peterson or Ben Shapiro As long as I know the truth it's good enough for me. My next course of actions will be based on that truth. Also contrary to popular belief, I don't think abortion is okay. Because murdering human is not okay. Does it make me Fi user instead of Fe? I give conspiracy theories a chance but if I somehow find a logical flaw in their theory I say goodbye. So I guess I'm a Ti user

ESTP -ultimate realist-yeah! ENTP-would be ultimate revolutionist 🤔

That was superb! Really enjoyed it...INTP here...Cheers!

INFP here. I got kicked off a Discord server by having this exact argument between Ti and Te between me and INTPs and we just went back and forth and I kept giving them facts and data and life experience and they kept denying it was true over and over until they finally kicked me off. It's a sad world we live in but yeah that is the reality of it all

Love the suit!

Looking good Chase 😌

I am glad I am a feeler.

Is it possible to believe in absolute truth if Ti is your demon function? Like, if you developed the idea from consuming other people's thoughts. I intentionally form theories and test them, but it takes me a lot of repetitions to form a conclusion and be sure. That sounds evidence-based to me, more Te. Seems like I'm emulating Ti

So how would a Ti parent would be at a field like programming which involves lots of logic? Because from my understanding the parent can be exhausted and is not always present unlike the hero or the child.

You lookin fly in that suit my dude.

If it’s truth then feelings don’t matter. False. The problem with “truth only” is that what’s usually most important is how you respond based on that truth and in most situations that are multiple truths and some of those truths are with regard to emotion and personal experience - which are I guess subjective truths but truth none the less. Who is to say which truth is most valuable to prioritize?

Lovely outfit, suits you 👍✅😀

I’ve watched this many times to understand your explanation but you still didn’t clarify Where Does Ti Come From? You’ve mentioned that Ti and Fe are on the same axis and you’ve talked many times about Te being the source of Fi, by that logic is Fe the source of Ti?

Can someone recommend me a novel/book in which a dominant Ti narrates in the first person so that I can understand this function perfectly / his thought process or how his head works? This is the function that has been the most difficult for me to understand, and especially I cannot understand or identify when someone use it in an auxiliary way.

I watched the video but the difference between Te and Ti is still rather foggy to me. Could you give a scenario that involves an argument between two people or even just a simple situation where one shows there reasoning in a logical manner and one in a rationale manner? I’m trying to visualize and think in my head the process that a person who has Ti would think like and the process of thinking for a Te user. Idk why it’s so difficult for me to understand but maybe you can give another explanation that may help.

So as a child Ti INFJ, i tend to do this if im looking for the best path forward and having to choose when my freedom gets restricted or am I way off ?

You know what you're talking about.

from I can say the man is running Google the search engine is Te user and do evaluate pages on (consensus and credibility) hahaha

Interesting video. Thank you.

Darn it no white board

As a sensor I cannot miss that your suit doesn't fit you really well. It's a bit too loose on you...

Sorry if this is covered in a later video that I'm sure to stumble upon eventually, but for the other 3 so far, there was a tip on how to make them feel good, respect for Te, Status for Fi, Gratitude for Fe, what would be the tip for Ti since it looks like you were in a rush for a meeting!

@C.S. Joseph I have a question about this as an ENTJ. Because this is in my nemesis slot can I safely conclude that this would refer to times where an individuals worries about their own logic and goes through a combination of either failure to launch a business because they're concerned that other people will think their decisions will be bad (Fe Demon) and/or launching several business/exploring far to many options because they're uncertain about which one will actually take them towards their end goals overall?

“Fact” is only as true as the input of information that is factually based. Wisdom is the application of fact in a way that can be communicated ethically and morally based. Otherwise all you have is unrelated points of fact or inputs of fact independent from other facts with out a connection or a reference point.

Excellent revisiting again lol

I have this intp friend that's constantly want to use his own type of logic every single time I ask a question about something,for instance chemistry and mathematical concepts from a textbook and many times when I ask it he kinda doesn't use the same logic or opinions from the book..but here's what happened next, several times about 2 times I think(we've been friend for about 4 months now) he doesn't get the answers right but then suddenly when I see him getting that answers wrong I somehow immediately know to explain it with my own logic based on the text given in the book and I verify it by searching for it in the Internet and showed the "data" to him that he's logic is not accurate..but then maybe he sees something else with his Ne parent..btw I'm an infj and the questions I asked him about is about quantum physics in chemistry.

I had trouble following this video. What do you mean when you say “a table of true/false.” I had too watch this video multiple times. I identify and understand when you were talking about absolute truth.

My man's dripped tf out

I respect you Chase

So when I confirm something to be true, there is nothing anyone can do to tell me its false without giving me an actual reason why ofcourse.

you're my hero

My estp brother always says, "it's not mean if it's the truth"

I'm INTP ofc Ti is my hero but can you explain why my Fi demon is very high too? I feel I'm horrible person and I always blaming myself

9:42 how does the word invisionaries sound

If I don’t like to learn to do things via reading instructions but prefer to learn through direct trial and error does that signify a preference for Ti over Te? But at the same time I enjoy reading books (Te??) when they’re conceptual. Basically: I enjoy trial and error when it comes to doing concrete things but enjoy reading and taking in outside sources when it comes to abstract things and learning about other people's take on the world. So this throws me off a bit.

INTP ~ Thank you cognitive sensei.

First of all - thanks for your lectures, they’ve been invaluable.

How do I know if I’m an INFJ male? What do I use Ti for if I am?

Cs joseph is my wife

Damn... beard game got tight 👌💯

Is Ti that thing that I can't get out of as an ENTP? Like the beginning of the loop?

You have Ni bro don't fight it! You keeping all this stuff in mind at once and knowing how much time something will take, that is Ni!

So when Ti makes a decision analyzes all the gathered information piece by piece, while Te uses the sum of it?

I like your cut G

Hey could you explain the T-shirt about the 16 symbols? So what is which type

Hello C. S. Joseph! I have another question. 🙃I scored 98% in abstract thinking on my SAT. Is that consistent with INTP? Thanks.

As a Te user, I think Ti is flawd and it's like you give them a ton ton of information and they tear them apart in right and wrong and they don't build anything out of it. My Te is like, I can take everything in and even out of connecting logical and sometimes irrational, people's opinions and everything into consideration and produce the final result that finally works and delivers the results where Ti user keeps pointing me how irrational I'm and he's the one with no results to show because he teared everything apart in right or wrong. Was recently debating with a Ti user on this pandemic and how it's a whole worldwide scam that was masterminded heavily by Elites that are pulling strings behind the scenes. I've warned him not to take that vaccine shot and I know he'll take it and will regret it later when he'll find the evil agenda behind all...

Im kinda late, 2 years late, i guess its not that bad. I have a kind of troubling question, which user, Ti or Te, is best for being a boss or leader of a company? (My comment probably wont be viewed even, but if it does, i really hope for an answer and explanation, because im kinda figuring it out in my mind and i want to know ur opinion C.S. Joseph. Thanks!)

Dude as a Ti Hero that goatee has to go. True false processing..... Good content still I very much enjoy!

I wanted to meet an ENTP during my quarter life crisis. Right.

Is it possible to build my Ti later in life? I've noticed my Te before being very strong, but now I can listen to what the majority thinks and be able to think through what they are saying and determine if it's true or not.

Hey what about Ti child? I want to know

Your beard is funny, though :D

Hey @C.S. Joseph , near the beginning of this video you used the collective's judgement of abortion vs an individual's judgement of it as an example of morals vs ethics- what Fe and Fi are tuned into, respectively. This makes me curious about what kind of thought processes would lead an Fe hero to support an ideology (such as a pro-life agenda) that opposes the collective. My Dad, for instance, is an ENFJ and very pro-life, and he came to this opinion (and the religious convictions behind it) largely through research and study. I'm wondering if he now considers the church and the faith he now belongs to as his new "collective" from which to draw ethical judgements. What do you think about this?

why would you react to feelings with rational? I don't quiet understand that. I mean, isn't empathy when you react with emotions towards emotions? so empathy would literally be Fi reacting to Fi.

Can I learn Ti if it's a blindspot. Should I practice if this then that statements? Should I practice categorizing things as true or false?

Is introverted thinking commonsense

what up

10:23 Intv? Pls tell me thats the INTP

How can I improve my Ti child?

Do you think that Ti has to do more with analytics or Te?

I am an ENTP to