My Lexus GX460 just had the infamous kdss light show on the display panel. Vehicle has 50k kilometres on it and has never been off road. Toyota dealer just quoted me $7,100 to replace the system. Smells of over pricing and scam. Toyota should ashamed to have this frail system on their vehicles. A supreme design flaw.
Kdss system is great when it works. Another guy made a video where it only activates on turns. Plus repairs are scary expensive and lifts can affect your ride differently. Im getting a 4Runner without kdss to avoid any problems. And why dont the pro models have it if its so great? Cost?$ i don't buy it. It's mostly for high speed off-road not for crawling
very good Informative video . I've seen people got scammed with $2000 kdss on their quote but there actulally isn't. Now people know where to check for it
Best video out there in regards to 4runner KDSS. I see in instructions “dont start or operate vehicle with shutter valves open”. What would happen if someone did start the engine? I had a shop replace LCA after collision and I ended up with 1/2” lean on driver side. Thinking they may have started the car with valves open. Can I recalibrate the lean myself? (All stock suspension) Thanks in advance
It could possibly blow out the valves as they aren't seated properly when loose and then oil everywhere and a $2-3k job at the dealership to get it bled and working again
Due to rust my kdss died, I'm aware it is very expensive to repair. Can I replace the away bar piston for a fixed link to convert the standard kdss sway bar into a regular sway bar?
nicely explained. I also like how you said - shoot wider angle so that one can understand the location. Else others i have seen just show the location close up
How do you fix a lean after a suspension lift has already been installed?? My vehicle sits higher on the driver side so I'm certain the shop didn't loosen the valves before they installed my suspension or tighten them when they were done. I'm positive they never touched my KDSS system. Now I have this annoying lean that I need to resolve.
Just open the valves on level ground, then shake the vehicle left to right a bunch then tighten them up again. If that doesn't work, hand the suspension in the air with the values open, put it on the ground, then close them.
@@ExitOffroad when you say hang the suspension do you mean all 4 corners or just the drivers side? Also, do I open the valves first and then lift? Or do I lift first and then open the valves?
Have the vehicle in the air on Jack stands so the suspension hangs, all 4 tires hanging. Valves can be opened before or after it goes in the air, doesn't matter
Can't understand though why it has been developing lean after 5 years, although there are no codes set, no damages no leaks to cylinders, nothing. And it does lean. Stealership once did maintenance on this system and they told me there there was air - of course its an utter bullshit, just because otherwise pressure wouldn't be sufficient enough and this would set off system to produce malfunction code. Toyota should've done a homework upon the maintenance procedures
It definitely sucks to have any problems with the KDSS system. There's a trend lately for people to remove the KDSS system all together and either fab in stock style sway bars, or run none at all (I wouldn't run none though)
@@ExitOffroad i know ppl do such a thing but... Still this system being Australian invention and nobody knows how it works and how to fix it in a good way.
@@wealthyperson3108 hey- did you manage to fix the lean? there are videos on youtube on how to do it. But like said in above video, you do not want to bleed your system
Thanks for the awesome video! I have a KDSS 4runner myself. Whenever you lifted the vehicle, did it hurt the articulation? Also, what do you think of the KDSS spacers and KDSS specific rear sway bars? There really isn't much good info floating around here about the systems in the US.
Thanks Luke!! I now sell the Treaty Oak Offroad KDSS spacers as I've seen no negative effects of running them. You can get some decent articulation with the system in stock form and longer shocks, but you'd get better travel with less sway bar resistance by adding the spacers. I don't have any experience with the KDSS-specific sway bars as of yet though.
@@ExitOffroad thanks for the reply! I meant to say KDSS specific panhard bars. There are some panhard bars on the market with notches in them to help clear the rear KDSS arms once you lift the vehicle.
That's a Shrockworks. They went out of business a few years ago and also ripped off a lot of people in the process from what I heard. Luckily that bumper was bought back in 2014 long before they had problems
yes- nowadays they expect the customers to know all. Sometimes they just say dont know to escape the question all together mostly because the car does not have the particular feature
