What is the BEST Guard Artillery? | Astra Militarum | Warhammer 40,000 

Pure artillery army when?

I love how he just completely ignores the Wyvern. 😂

3:46 "They're cheap and" ... "they put out." That's what she said

It might be interesting to see an All Artillery List battle report. 3x Basilisks, Manticores, Medusas, Earthshakers, maybe even a Praetor, give all the infantry squads mortars, some Attachés, and a few Scout Sentinels for full on effectiveness. You'll have a force that can pick apart your opponent's army back to front and make it impossible to hold their home objectives or close the distance to your line.

I really liked this format of video. Listing all the options for a specific role, giving the pros and cons, and have a nice concise ranking at the end.

Legends Honorable Mentions: Armageddon-Pattern Medusa. Regular Basilisk chassis, a S12 D4 medusa cannon, plus a heavy stubber. 105 POINTS. I take two instead of a 5th demolisher. (terminator/vehicle meta)

The FOB is definitely a sleeper Mordian. It has the Regimental keyword. It can take infantry orders and come back with reinforcements. Imagine bringing a battery back on your opponents home objective behind with a platoon of scions deep striking. I’d definitely suggest taking 2 batteries. One to hold the back for IF and one for AT.

A fun artillery list would be the oops all sentinels list supported by a robust artillery line

"All the guard's artillery are pretty good!" Laughs in death strike

I really need to get more artillery in my army😂

Something else I've thought about is the earthshaker and Medusa can apply fields of fire where the basalisk and manticore can not

Mordian could you please do a tactica explaining all the ways you can deploy a super heavy that doesn’t fit wholly within 6” of the battlefield edge? I think I understand that means it can’t be used the turn it arrives but what about Strat reserves? What about rapid ingress? What about using leontus redeploy?

another quality video, cheers fella.

I'm running a praetor not because it's effective but because it is cool

this has been really useful as i have just started a guard army. Love the content and i will definitely take some basilisks!

Would love to see a data sheet ability for heavy weapon squads, or even an order, called “dig in.” Movement goes to 0, but they get a 5+ invuln. That would still be vulnerable to any concentrated fire, even small arms, but would be protected from incidental fire. A single split fire bolter wouldn’t do it

I've had relative success (4-1 in local tourney) with no artillery at all! I just hate the static play style

A couple of mortars in an ursula creed blob is an autotake for doubling up on fields of fire. Bonus AP-2 against stuff is wildly good.

Medusas if you can afford them hopefully they get a plastic release if the plastic kreig rumour is real

I still haven't managed to get any artillery besides the field ordinance from my one combat patrol. I've got around 3000 points now too 😢

certainly interesting but you could do a whole nother segment on just how you use them in lists. like how if you are trying to include orders for medusa's its easy enough to find an officer that can provide 1 or 2 orders but trying to do groups of 3 means you either have to take a 2nd officer or you have to run leon and if you are going to take leon you might as well take manticore platforms that only he can give orders and save 100 points over 3 manticores even with the added cost of including leon who now gives you enough extra cp to give you expert bombardiers every turn. heck mortars? 3 teams of mortars are more efficient then 2 teams with orders altho for one team of infantry or carriage based artillery you can always give a command squad grand strat meaning you can likely get orders for only 15 as opposed to 45 for a castellen etc. basilisk on the other hand you might as well just take them as tracked units as its basically the equivalent of having the carriage with an officer included for only 25 points more and as mentioned its more mobile and tougher to boot. personally im wanting to try 2 medusa carriages and castellan with grand strat and then 2 basilisks.

When I use artillery. It will be a basilisk, a manticore, and 2 scout scentinals. If I have extra points to throw at the artillery it will be a field gun or 4. I fight a lot of MeQ's. Wounding on 4 or 5 is no good. If you are fighting a T3 army the mortars will do better for you than a field gun. A regular mortar will make the guardians, or avengers arch threw the air just fine. Orcs not so much, but Ive had a grot get a good 40-50 feet up into the air I miss the days of having to guess the range of a mortar shot. Salvo barrages and whatnot. Can you still field a mole mortar?, or a thudd gun?

I keep looking for an excuse to get more Artillery piece Models and videos like this just undermine my efforts as I already have 2 Baslisks and 2 Manticores. sigh, the curse of being a guard Long beard. GREAT Video dude.

I always struggle to want more than 1 indirect unit. I’ve run 3 Earthshakers, and they do well enough but never really do anything exceptional. 1 unit lets you hit sneaky units or backfield objectives, but more than that seems unnecessary. I may be very wrong. I kinda think Creed, a mortar squad, and 2 FOBs with bombasts could be good for killing marines. Creed uses FOF on the mortar and orders take aim on the bombasts, then use bombasts to target marine type units with AP2 damage 2 shots wounding in 3’s. Scout sentinel in there and could be hitting on 3’s retooling 1’s. Just seems like a large point sink. 415 points.

30:12 Thank you Evan!!!

good video. what about legend artillery : griffons, dominus tripple bombard etc. ?

I Like to build command blobs with infantry Squad, Platoon command squad and a Hero and put them in the rear and give the command squad and the Platon mortars, so you have practicaly a mortar heavy weapon Squad for free and it makes that the rear guard command can participate in the shooting phase. And if you have an opponent who wants to play with legends (like Marines and their beloved Leviathan or deredeo dreadnoughts) i think the Armageddon Medusa is the best Artillery, so much punch for so cheap points, for basicly indirict fire lascanons.

Which artillery model is the one in the thumbnail (or 22:16) looks like a Basilisk with an enclosed 3rd party turret?

Is the wyvern so bad you forgot it Mordian? Haha!

Love the Earthshaker, I can help allies fighting tables over TEN FEET away ! ! ! 😀👍😀

Does anyone have any good medusa self propelled gun proxies? The armaggedon pattern medusa goes for over $250 and i aint paying that...heck would be nice if you could find manticore platforms at all...

Which would be better to take in an army list? The Manticore or The Praetor

How dare you not mention HIS blesséd Deathstrike?!

I wish Praetors would come down a smidge. They’re not that overpriced when you consider they basically have the scout sentinel’s daring recon baked in. At 240 pts its basically a heavier armored Manitcore.

The biggest problem of all indirect weapons in 40k is, that they have the risk for causing unfun uninteractive games. "I shoot this with that now" without movements, risk or counterplay involved can be very meh. Doesn't have to be, but it happenend to me (on both sides of the barrel). For guard I would wish for worse artillery without. But better artillery with a spotter. That would open up a lot of play around positioning and movement of the spotters (again for both sides)

How about the Griffon heavy mortar ?

You said Indirect weapons cant overwatch, is that true? As far as I know they can overwatch if they have line of sight

The Dominus armoured seige bombard is the best, obviously main weapon shoots indirect at 48" range, A- 2d6, BS- 4+ , S- 12, AP -2, D 3 it can take 2 las cannons and a hkm aswell the ability is any infantry hit with the main gun must take a battleshock test, not too good but has its uses😅

Basilisk is Definitely the best.

put the praetor is so cool

Id like to get the medusa/earthshaker if they werent something like 150 bucks lol.

Wyveum 6th at LVO

Wait are we not doing horde armies anymore?

Hi, on the basilisk you mentioned to get a 2+ hit with sentinel's, that is not correct, you cant get only +1-1 on a hit roll not more. Thats statet in the rules

You put the Manticore where sir... You shame us sir. And claimed it is Forge World. 100% agree with the number one spot.

Earthshakers?

oh good so either I wait until GW decide start printing Basilisks again or I spend £100 - £150! Good profiteering from GW there!

I miss the days that wyverns were 65 points

Video is best watched at 2x speed

whait did we talk about the deathstrike missile???

can i get a tldr?

Wait so you can add two modifiers to a model and better a stat by 2 ?

Right now Heavy weapons squads are in "no man land" in my opinion. I think Heavy weapon squad should be able to attach to infantry squads; -Cover fire would protect against charges -Would increase survivality in a blob of 10-20 -Why Command squad have to be attached and not being alone? ....Makes sense ... because its purpose it to be enforcing infantry,. -Why not HWs? At the end HWs are big guns to support infantry. Like a real infantry company.

2 basilisks, or 1 basilisk? The perennial question...

Bayonets are the best artilery what are you talking about

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agree with everything you said, but u left out a trick. U can use reinforcements to bring back either the earthshaker or medusa Carriage Batteries

Way to fix mortars is instead of heavy weapons teams take Platoon squads w/mortars and Plasma attach a Platoon command squad w/mortars and Plasma then give it drill Commander. Ur indirect fire will auto wound on 5s. If u also attach a castellan u will also get sustained hits on 6s. And the emperor help a unit that gets within 25" and is visible to the unit.