do the ads, you put to much effort into this channel to not earn what you can. I feel the brand comparison tests are highly important. Great job bothering to show us how the material shows up. ( and the " 2 holes" on the spool... What are these guys thinking, its a simple issue to correct and so annoying problem , I know its nit picky but still)
I really appreciate your work on these kind of videos. I do use your data to make choices in the filament that I buy. I’m sorry that these videos are not always that popular, but there is no other place you can go for this kind of comparison tests. Thank you!
Igor, I’ve noticed that you’ve taken your videos to a new level lately! What happened? They have always been must-see, but now they are a treat to watch!
Yes, you are the only person doing consistent material reviews. I'd love to see comparisons between colored and uncolored filaments of the same type from the same maker.
I think these kind of videos are of worth for people either new to printing or the channel. Gives a quick shot for people looking to buy materials for a project, without having to spend a day going over individual filament reviews. Thanks you!
I have used eSun quite a bit and really like it. Although I now have a Microcenter not too far from my house, so I have been trying to purchase most of my filaments from them to help with buying and supporting from a local store. The in-house brand for MC is Inland filament.
Great video Igor. I’m surprised how “early” all of the filaments were affected by heat. Most of my objects last until about 75°C but I’m typically printing with very high infill percentage (in the 40-60% range).
These are small test objects. But at least, I am using the same testing method (not only in this video), so the results are comparable with each other.
Excellent work as always. Thank you. 80% of my prints are done with ASA, I have standardized on PolyLite (based on your earlier tests) and have been really happy with the consistency. I used to used mostly PETG but have found when parts were dropped PETG would break. My parts are used in rugged terrain and in the ocean so they get a lot of abuse. I’m much happier with ASA.
@@berlinberlin4246 I actually am just using the inexpensive Kingroon available on Amazon, though my next purchase will probably be BambuLabs since it has done so well in his tests… unless we have more ASA tests on the way and that changes 😁
@@berlinberlin4246 From his tests I really like the BambuLab, it seems to be the best all-arounder, but even the inexpensive Kingroon ASA from Amazon has worked alright. ASA in general has weaker layer adhesion than PLA so certain models designed for PLA may seem weak. But that is the tradeoff for better impact resistance and heat resistance. Definitely keep the chamber temps high and go slow to maximize the layer adhesion and reduce warping :)
This was interesting. And comparing items in with high control in excruciating detail is one of my favorite genres, can’t go wrong with this. Especially between brands. I’d say go ahead and enable ads, you can tell the amount of effort that goes into this.
As someone who just last week got a first 3D printer (Bambu Lab X1C) this is really valuable information as I don't know much about filament brands yet. You really did an amazing and thorough job. It is much appreciated that you would put in so much effort without having (as you state) a lot of views. Thanks! 👏
Awesome video. One criteria that has not been properly explored is how layer thickness can considerably increase the strength of a print. Do you have a printer setup with a 1mm nozzle?
Please keep it up, pretty new to 3D printing so I did find your content a little intimidating but the more I watch your channel the more I learn and make better buying decisions.
I love the format! I had no idea you had done it before. It's very surprising that your channel isn't more popular. Not having ads might be affecting the algorithm, as we know RU-vid tends to prioritize monetized content. In my opinion, you should enable ads. I understand you're not doing it for the money, but reaching a wider audience would benefit everyone. Keep up the great work!
@@MyTechFun good question, me personally I'm in the beginning for using ABS / ASA I think good candidates for tasting: esun ABS+, Prusament ASA, greetech and Amazon basics if they sell abs/asa
The bambulab PETG is discontinued as well. Considering it seemed to perform worst or one of the worst in most tests I guess there is a reason for it being disco tinued.
VoxlePLA is pretty popular here in the US. Their PETG (white in my case) had to be printed at 270C (nozzle temp); when I asked the reason many in reddit said this was because PETG needs such temperatures and others said it was because they may use virgin raw materials instead of recycled. Both reasons didn’t make much sense to me. The one I tested was white, very white. The issues I had may have been due to a big load of TiO2 in the mix, who knows.
Another terrific video. Your work is honest and informative and just what we want. Sure enable ads, will still watch the videos because they are well worth it. ,keep going, there's no one else doing what you do so expertly.
I enjoy your videos, watch almost all of them, and think you should enable ads. I’m subscribed but don’t click the bell on any channel I’m subscribed to. I print with PLA, PVB, PETG, ASA, TPU, and PC. When I choose the material to use for a given print I know that any filament I use of that type will be good enough for the print’s intended purpose. I watch your testing videos out of general curiosity but they do not inform my buying decisions. I don’t need the strongest/toughest filament of a particular type…I pick the specific filament based on aesthetics, what I have on hand, experience with a given manufacturer, and price knowing that the chosen filament will be good enough. This is probably a terrible analogy but that’s never stopped me before. 😆 To me filament is like shoelaces. Do I need to research the strongest shoelaces before buying? No, because any shoelace will be good enough to keep a shoe on my foot. I might watch a shoelace testing video out of curiosity or because it looked entertaining but not because I need the pinnacle of shoelace material science. My point is, extrapolating from a single data point (me), that your lower-than-desired view counts could be because few people need ultimate PETG (or whatever) performance. You’re an engineer and you’re doing what you do and you should keep doing that if you enjoy it. There are thousands of people who enjoy your videos (myself included) which is pretty cool IMO.
My favorite PETG is still PLA+ 😅 It permanently creeps under (too much) load and withstands a little less heat, but is easier to print and often has better layer adhesion. If ABS wasn't such PITA with open printer, it might be my favorite PETG 😉
Amazing video! Loved the graph shown during testing to help keep track of how well each one is doing. Love your channel. Such useful information! Great job :)!
For me Bambulab PETG is ok mainly because is AMS compatible and I do not need to tinker settings. My first print was roughly a cylinder with 200mm diameter and 90mm height and it was great on 0.6mm nozzle
I feel like there's atleast 3-4 channels that have this test made already, and the maker of the filament usually doesn't matter much for the end-user, price is usually the first consideration.. but it's fun content on your channel nonetheless!
Thank you for your testing work. I have been using Bambu PETG since I got my X1C, but this has convinced me to try some other brands to see if there is better value.
An idea for filament comparison could be for different transparent (I mean fully transparent, not "transparent red") filaments, even if the material type is different: PETG, PLA, PC, ABS. Which ones are clearer, easier to print, and so on.
Good idea. I think more useful would be same transparent from different brands. But probably for this I have to buy all those filaments (again). Average how much earn per video is 5-10$ :-( If I would have at least half of views like CNCkitchen... But somehow my videos are not recommended. Just for curiosity, have you seen this video? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_pPWvLizjRU.htmlsi=n2M875OEIljS_zEq So big work and less than 2k views..
@@MyTechFun yes I watch almost all of them. I'm not sure about the reasons for the low views, have you tried contacting other creators from the field to share tips? But I think most of their income comes from sponsors anyway.
I very much like these kinds of comparison videos. Please do more of them, there are so many filament manufacturers out there and all kinds of marketing names for the same type of filament (like Basic, Pro, Plus, Meta etc. etc.) that it's hard to know what would be the best choice for me in a real life situation. Sure there are datasheets available from most manufacturers but I don't trust them. Who knows if they're accurate for each and every spool... BTW. Personally I would like to see a PCTG filament comparison. Filalab has some very affordable (circa 25€ per kg) PCTG, I bought some, and it really seems like a big improvement over PETG especially in layer adhesion, but is just as easy to print! I'm surprised it hasn't become more popular.
Just a note that, in my experience, printing inside an enclosure with opened doors is somewhere 'in between' printing entirely without an enclosure, and printing with a closed one. Even with open doors it maintains about 5-10 degrees Celsius higher than the room. After all, it's still enclosed on 5 sides.
I did not expect to see such huge differences in the layer adhesion. Have you ever seen such a big variance before, when comparing the same kind of polymer from different manufacturers?
Layer adhesion is very sensitive property. It can be ruined very easily with additives or with bad print settings. Take a look of this PLA comparison: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BbbquNH5NFA.htmlsi=RTw2cjyQTRy2nH0Z
Very useful info. Thank you for this. I printed some parts in Creality ABS recently (for heat resist), but found layer adhesion abmismally poor. I reprinted the same parts in Polylite PETG just to check I wasn't going nuts, and those parts turned out much stronger in layer adhesion. Your tests shows me that maybe Creality adds something to their filaments to make it easier to print, but really affects layer adhesion. Anyway, it also shows me I should've bought Hatchbox or Eryone! haha. Anyway, I would be quite interested in the same test in ABS, since I would be then able to completely validate my own findings between Creality ABS and Polylite PETG for layer adhesion.
Bought my first spool this weekend. TECBEARS bought it for 13 Euro's i think why not test it. Worked but i had layer adhesion problems. was at 230 or so but i am (still) using bowden with a "stock" hotend and brass nozzle. Think its the temp had cooling at 40% it smelled weird out of the packaging, but no smells after i dried it Could be my printer its an Ender 7 :PP lgx extruder and mosquito is on the way :P Just put ads in there my man, i think "a lot" of us 3d nerds use a "thingy" and don't see them :)
In my experience, color can make a huge difference to strength, even within one brand. In my tests, Sunlu transparent was more than 30% stronger than Sunlu white.
I am very curious how the different PETG brands with the same color (e.g. black) would perform with their optimal settings. So you would first have to find out the optimal settings for each brand and then compare them all. Of course, this is an immense effort, but it would increase the data quality considerably. Nevertheless, thank you for your good work and for sharing your results so transparently with everyone!
@@MyTechFun This sounds really interesting! CNC Kitchen already did this experiment with normal PLA a year ago. But I think the most meaningful results without bias are achieved by determining the best settings for each filament individually and then comparing these results with the others. Or what is your opinion or experience?
It would be interesting to see the difference between a brands plus or pro petg or pla, seeing as there's no standard to what additives manufacturers include. There may be massive variance between brands claiming it's a "plus" over their original.
I already have these kind of comparisons (from one brand). Search the material testing playlist: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WRGQ1MBp30A.html&ab_channel=MyTechFun
Best PETG is natural color petg, regardless of brand, without any additives (slightly milky, hard to buy), the more additives it has the worse it becomes. Completely clear PETG is NOT natural color, but it is closest to the natural from easy-to-buy ones.
Ok just watched this one, great video and I would appreciate this for more materials ofc :) maybe you could add Esun abs max, that one is the only one available next to their abs+
That was a great comparison, I enjoy these the most. I'm surprised by how large the range was on layer adhesion results! Would it equalize at higher printing temperatures? I wonder.
If you use the same gcode, then you do not calibrate flow, right? In my experience slight under or over extrusion makes a huge difference for strength. So I think you should either calibrate each filament or use X1C with auto calibration.
What's up with the horrible interlayer adhesion strength of the Creality and eSun PETG in particular? Glad I bought Hatchbox on a whim--their PLA Max is really good, too.
@MyTechFun I would love to see an ASA test. It's my favorite filament, because it has the advantages of ABS (impact and temp resistance) without the smell. Could you also evaluate the warping in your test? I noticed some ASA do warp a lot more than others. Maybe design a part that's very susceptible to warping and print on normal PEI sheet without glue? I would say that good prints with minimal warping are just as important for me as the mechanical properties
