In this video i talk about which used Porsche you should buy in 2023, they all have issues but which Porsche makes the most sense to own ??? What Is The Best USED Porsche To Buy In 2023???
Driving my 2000 996-4 since 2015 with 140.000 miles only in European winter. Great car. Apart from regular maintenance, which I’m doing myself, I had a broken radiator. So cost wise my cheapest car so far. I’m 61 so I had a few. 😊
Buy a mid miles 996. Run it enjoy it. Once hits high miles rebuild the engine and drive it again. Total costs will still be less than a new one if you could buy one for msrp. Every gas engine will need to be rebuilt in its life. Some sooner than others and the more high performance the more it costs
The Porsche to get right now is the 996 turbo. And it might sound crazy but get one with roughly 100k miles. They are available for roughly $40k right now. You can drive it for 4 years and put 50k miles on it. Then with 150k miles you will be able to sell it for roughly the same price you paid for it.
I have Porsche 987.2 pdk with 168 000 km with all service records. Awesome car handling very good. I would recommend. Hydraulic steering awesome you feel everything
Been driving my 1985 3.2 carrera for 12 years now. Around 145k miles on her and still runs perfect. No engine or transmission rebuild and just basic maintenance that I have done myself.
My 84 car has +- 155k miles and only a transmission rebuild. It don't use any oil and just sound great. How I like the modern cars I keep my old classic.
21 almost 22 years old, became a large Porsche enthusiast through my dad and going to the track with him through the PCA. Hoping to buy a 996/997.1 one day and find one that's manual and is in somewhat good condition.. this video provided me with a lot of information and insight so thank you!
I’ll try to be brief and succinct. Please anyone jump in and comment as I’m not Porsche expert. I’ve been doing a lot of research and this is what I’ve learned: For the purpose of this narrative there are generally different generations of Porsche engines: #1. Air cooled engines until Model Year (MY) 1998 #2. Introduction of water-cooled engines MY 1998 to 2011. #3. Refined water-cooled engines MY 2012 to 2018. Lastly, #4 MY 2019 to Present. COATINGS: #1. Nikasil coating used on air-cooled engines. #2. Lokasil/Alusil used on water cooled engines up to MY 2018. #3.SUMEbore used in engines MY 2019 and later. SUMEbore is expensive and is a game changer. It does away with old cross hatch honing that’s been used forever. It uses a plasma tool to create porosity in the cylinder liners which are microns in size. After the plasma tool a second tool is used to re-surface the cylinder walls. What is known to date: Nikasil was a more robust coating than Lokasil. Seemingly air-cooled engines didn’t have bore-scoring with Nikasil. 2. Lokasil was used on 996/997 and bore-scoring is problematic, especially in cooler climates. Lastly, SUMEbore on late model Porsches. Can anyone provide more information on SUMEBore???? Based upon my research the most logical path forward for me is to purchase a 2020 or later Porsche. I cannot rationalize buying an older Porsche for 60K and putting anther 20K into it. Thoughts?????????
You can’t lump 997 with 996. The 997.2 (09-12) is a perfect car. I’ve owned mine for 10 years and drive it regularly. No ims issues. I also own an 86 3.2.
Completely agree. I have owned both 997.1 & 997.2 with zero issues. I’ve always tried to buy the very best car I can and kept to the 3.6 which I believe leads a quieter life. Keep off 3.8 s with Chrono pack seems to be the market wisdom as these have more than likely been on track days and visits to the Nurburgring.
@@MasterArmedforces yes. The series 2 are pretty much bullet proof. But these are cars which need regular maintenance and when you come to suspension rebuilds etc, these are big bills. And then they just keep driving as tight and as sure as when the came out of the factory.
2003 996 going on 7 years 83,000 miles on the Odometer. Very few issues so far. IMSB was done before my purchase. I did do a clutch and RMS but that's not all that bad for 7 years of ownership for a 20 year old 911.
Thx for your videos and appears you are very through & good at what you do. I had a 996 turbo stick sold with 23K miles never had any problems now have a 997.1 turbo with 36K & Tiptronic no problems so far. I love the 997.1 & 997.2 turbos.
987.1 2.7 Boxster/Cayman: Less than 1% IMS failure rate (2006+ models), no significant bore scoring issues, typical maintenance items - many of which can be done by the owner. Selling prices between $20K-$35K for decent mileage examples. Great value for such a well balanced, great handling car…!
2006 boxster s, so far so good,!!lucky, every day user 1 owner, well maintained, Got it 2019, fix replaced, things expected after 15 years, no major issues. Changed oil once ,alligood no debris in filter, doing change 2nd time 2023. Hopefully all good . Peace.
Bought an unloved and salvage titled 996 Carrera several years ago. No issues. Car has been amazing. Engine is strong, and has over 120,000 miles on it now. Just got a gold star Blackstone oil analysis back on it. I drive it everywhere, including on track. You aren't necessarily going to have problems if you buy an old 996. These are generally great cars, built with great care, and ready to deliver lots of miles and fun. Numbers don't lie, and 70% of all 911s ever built are still on the road, and the 996 was one of the most popular, and sold in very high numbers. If you listen to this guy you would think buying a 996 was a guaranteed future of catastrophic engine failure and financial ruin. Just not the case. I had mine repainted last year, and even with the cost of a full glass out respray, my total cost in this 911 is less than a bad condition 997. Buy what you want and what you can afford, but if all you can afford is a 996, go ahead and get one. You might regret it sure, but you might regret anything you decide to do, and more likely than not you will love it. If the engine blows just V8 swap it and have more fun. Also I like the GT1 headlights, they look good. Also 997s look like VW Beetles, ya I said it.
Hell yeah brother! When i bought my '99 996 6-spd in 2003 it had about 30k miles and I needed great air-conditioning (Florida) so the 993 was already out of the running. As soon as I bought it the clutch needed replacing almost immediately due to the previous owner and it had the RMS leak so I had both fixed at the same time, seems like it was around $3k. Then the coolant tank sprung a leak and I replaced that for around $200. Then I daily drove it for almost 20 yrs and after 113,000 miles on it with the only major unexpected event (non-maintenance) being the air-oil separator for like $1400? water pump 1x, the alternator 1x, engine mounts 1x, key switch 1x, oh.. and the window regulator which I changed myself 2x during ownership (annoying!) The car ran great, never smoked, didnt use oil between changes, etc etc etc. It was a very reliable car that I didnt baby at all, daily driver in all weather, some deferred maintenance (brake fluid!) and I knew even back in like 2005 that the internet hand-wringing was probably overblown but yeah there were probably people who had issues with them. However my experience was rock solid, just a fantastically fun and cheap car (bought for 39k and insurance totaled for flood at 26k 20 yrs later). Usually buying the first year (1999) of a model is not a good idea but the dual row bearing in the first year may have been the key to keeping me a Porsche fan and repeat buyer. Bonus is that at this point you're only a few months from getting the cool 'antique' tag in some states! I'd buy another if I hadnt gone for a 991.1 tts.
What's interesting is every time someone buys a used Porsche, the first conversation is about " preventive maintenance" and when folks buy a used Mazda MX5 the only conversation is what upgrades they are considering never talking about all the issues mentioned in this vlog concerning used Porsches.
That's not really how most porsche owner conversations go: if your primary reason for buying is price then it might. If you're concerned with price and you get a cheap one or an old one then yes those people have to talk about maintenance. For the people who can actually afford these cars and aren't as concerned they will pay 3x the miata but have a better and more reliable car. This kind of conversation is a symptom of trying to buy a luxury/high end sports car for miata money. That doesn't work 99% of the time.
@@mattyp3119 ...to add regardless of price to my concern. Two of my friends had this happen, one has a new GT3 and at 16k miles blew the engine. Of course it was replaced under warranty but what if? The other person just last week returned his 2022 911 back to Porsche cause during his only 3 months of ownership it was at the dealer 2 months for electrical problems. He only had the car a couple weeks in his garage. He got his $228k back and will consider another brand. Again this is just what effects my consideration of an investment.
I owned a 987.1. Loved it. Getting ready to buy another Porsche. First choice is 981 which is last normally aspirated base or S. Second choice if I want to save some money is 987.2. I see these cars as critical to this discussion.
Excellent synopsis. I have a southern 2008 manual 911S with 67000 miles. I love the car! So far, there are no issues. But you are absolutely correct... in the back of my mind I am thinking of what, when and how to potential problems.
A lot of these videos put an unnecessary scare into people! Drive the crap out of it, and enjoy it! But be sure to perform routine maintenance requirements! Porsches are high quality machines! With a little love, the tend to last a long time!
Gen 2 997 or 987 with the DFI engine would resolve any worries of bore scoring and IMS problems, plus an upgraded PCM. I'm lucky enough to have a Cayman R, I decided to spend the extra on the newer DFI, rather than worry about paying the extra on an engine re-build. Same engines as the newer 981 & 991 but with analogue steering.
Surprised he did not elaborate on the most important aspect being the introduction of the DFI engine which solves all of the engine problems and the PDK issues are also not frequent as some say. I have owned the 997.2 Carrera S PDK for a while now and it’s absolutely trouble free. Also most importantly the last of the smaller bodied cars which makes them special for sure.
We brought a 2000 986 with 70k miles from San Diego back to the Midwest about five years ago. Thru dumb luck, it's been a trouble free daily driver getting ready to turn 100k miles this summer.
In your comments you keep saying 996 or 997 but there is a huge distinction between 997.1 and 997.2 . The 9a1 engine is much better then the M97 engine. You need to be more clear for the people who are new to Porsche. I would have purchased a 997.1 if it had not been for a friend of mine who had two M96 engine grenade. Plus the PCM 3.0 system was a huge improvement over the 2.0 system.
I agree. I have a 997.1 which is in great shape with no issues, but the .2 has the better power plant and really is in a different class altogether even though the cars are basically the same in other aspects. The .2 engine changes everything!
@@aboyandhisdog Didn't the 997.2 have problems with carbon buildup though? Was that already the DFI engine? Apart from that, most M96-engines I saw give up the ghost were those with low mileage. The engine wants to be used, driven. When you don't move the car, it starts to develop problems. Constant movement, and constant maintenance is the key to longetivity.
@@Kommunisator Yep, the .2 is a DFI engine and they can be prone to carbon on the intake valves. There are ways to minimize this risk and this condition isn't unique to Porsche. I think it can affect all DFI engines. As to the M96.05 and the M97 engines in the .1 cars only about 4-7% +- are affected by scoring and far fewer, if any, have IMS issues. The IMS in the 997's, apart from a very few in early production, were an internal (non servicable) bearing and was very robust and not an issue. I think the best thing you can do is to drive the cars regularly, keep the revs under 22-2800 or so when cold, and drive enough that the oil gets hot for a period of time. I don't drive for short trips if the car is cold. And of course, change the oil at 5k miles, check the filter for bits, etc. I don't fret about my car at all, but with all of the conflab online about bore scoring, it is always in the back of my mind and something I never want to deal with. So I do all I can to assure I never have issues.
@@aboyandhisdog absolutely correct. I think a lot of cars get damaged when the owners pull them from winter storage, having only seasonal plates on them, and then want "to show friends what it can do" without first changing the oil and giving the car some time to warm up properly. This is important, not only for a turbo, but also a naturally aspirated high powered car, especially with a Boxer engine. Mine uses a bit of oil, the big problem was the air-oil-separator. If that gets damaged, stop. Just stop the car. It will burn all of its oil in a few kilometers, and then the engine is toast. (looked like a James Bond smokescreen behind mine) Also, a lot of "damaged engines" that got new cylinder inserts weren't damaged at all, only the oil/water cooler was corroded through. A good flushing and re-filling would've solved all problems, but letting the customer pay 15.000€ for an engine overhaul is a far better prospect for some businesses than just getting a tenth of that for some replacements and a good system flush. I've seen blocks with steel cylinder liners, where those liners weren't properly inserted and started to wander, damaging the block beyond repair later.
@@Kommunisator that’s literally what my mec told me last time I took my 996.2 for maintenance “ you have to drive this car so it doesn’t develop issues”
Bought my lowish miles (2005 with 39k miles at the time) 997.1 C2S Manual (first Porsche) from a Porsche specialist here in the UK just over 2 years ago so it’s had all the checks for bore score, IMS etc done. Engine sounds sweet but I avoid short trips, keep the revs low until it’s fully warmed up and have the oil changed every 12 months even though it’s only a weekend/fun car but gets used all year. No garage either but I look after it as best I can apart from that. The independent Porsche service I use actually drain the oil, refill, run, drain then fill again to completely clean it out. Can’t do much more than what I’m doing to prevent bore scoring but if it happens, it happens.
Facts. I’m out on the 9A1 that many think is the epitome of NA mid range Porsche experience. My 997.2 Targa 4S mt was on its 3rd motor (66k miles) when I sold it in ‘22. Had a powertrain warranty replacement and the long-block cost from Porsche was $27k with new injectors. F that. I’m shopping 991.2s when the market cools off.
4 years ago I purchased a 987.1 CS with 14k miles on it for 28k with a 71k build sheet (had many extras). I am at 52k miles. LOVE IT!!!! I do my oil changes and break pad changes....It is WAY less expensive than I ever imagined. I am going to do the surpentine belt soon.. YOU TUBE MECHANIC!!!
Thanks Nathan, glad I saw some of your videos on the topic, know I have the information to buy a 911 if I would like. If I am I need one with the engine done and pay more.
hey man they just found out you can program the gt3 steering into the 981 module to make itfeel alot better EPS. You might want to look into it it's a free mod with piwis3
@@LC-rj6ok Alright I cant find the true information - do 997.2 carrera and carrera S have the bore scoring problem, because some comments claim they don't and some videos claim they do?!
Thanks for the video. Not certain what you recommended. A 991 or 992 for $100K? Does the new engine in the 2009-2012 997 series engine also face bore scoring?
I'm really happy with my 981 Cayman S PDK. It had 32k on it when I bought it, and it's got about 42k now. The only thing I've had to get fixed was a warning message on the dash about a PADM, which was shorted internally. Luckily that fell under CPO warranty. The first oil change at 38k I had sent off to Blackstone Laboratories for analysis and the results came back really clean compared to engines of the same type, and at a typical interval of about 3800 miles. I drive it at least once a week, and a lot more when it's nice outside. Absolutely love it, I hope it lasts a long time. I plan on putting a lot of miles on it.
Thank you , I sold my 1982 911 SC when my daughter was born, every day I cry, lmy daughter has cost me 100,000 plus, waaaaaa. always loved the 911, ran it at Sebring with Porsche club, good times. Still nothing runs like a 911, period end of story IMHO, but the deep pockets it's like going threw two bad divorces at the same time. Thanks Nathan you help me with my BMW, much appreciated Cheers. Pops Fl
I have a 2000 C2 Cab. Did the IMS, AOS, oil cooler and the Variocams were checked and the pads, solenoids and chains were changed. Now I hope I have piece of mind for a while but I’m already itching about upgrading!. 😮
They sold 175000 996s and they are all 20 to 30 years old. If they are all bombs they would be all in junkyards by now. The prices are going up on these cars because if they are maintained well they ARE reliable and as Nattie himself says, more reliable than their German alternatives. No reputable shop says they all bore score. Weird statement to make. He's right when he says that they are expensive to repair if they aren't well maintained before you get hold of them. But there's a well documented path to success with these cars and the rising market prices reflect this.
I have a 2005 987 Boxster manual. I don't have had big issues but quite a lot small ones. I'm now looking for a good solution for my catalys. The inside came loose. Should I buy a used one from ebay or try to have it rebuild?
Damn….this is an incredibly valuable video. My story? I’m in the “end game” of my 60s. When I turned 50, that year coincided with the year I was promoted in the Navy, to O6. One of my early XOs, after his divorce, bought a beautiful white 944S2 Cabriolet. When I first saw it on the pier in Norfolk, one sunny Virginia day, I fell in love (the car dammit, nit the XO. Focus! Focus!). So jump ahead, I turn 50, and sew in my fourth gold stripe, and my wife tired of me whining about wanting a Porsche. By then, rear ending Porsches were out of my range….and I kept coming back to that 944 cab…and found one. A very low mileage, all records, Baltic Blue with full leather “linen” interior. I still have that beauty….and now living in New England, she is stored six months of the year. She gets compliments EVERYTIME we go out….but I’d be lying if I didn’t admit to at least some 911 envy….maybe even a Boxster S. And right now, my still low mileage, (barely 68k on the clock) all services, everything works 944s2 is bringing silly money. But….approaching 70….maybe I’m better off believing that “the devil you know, is better than the one that you don’t”. Bravo-Zulu, we’ll done sir….this was indeed, a very informative video. I no longer have the patience, tools or workspace, to turn my own wrench. So your information in this video is invaluable….at least to me. And sadly, so true about younger people and manual transmissions. I forced all my three kids to learn on a shift stick. We (my wife and I) felt that doing so, kept their attention on driving, versus their damned iPhones! Thank you, sir!
You didn’t really talk about the major differences between 997.1 and .2 outside of the PDK. It’s a completely different engine. No IMS issues and far less bore scoring. It’s always good idea to do a detailed PPI and scope the bores. With a good inspection and maintenance history plus check ECU Rev numbers you can feel better about getting that affordable 997.2.
.2's have bore scoring issues as well.. just not as much or documented, well because there just aren't as many .2's running around.. but even 991.1's with the 9A1 have bore scoring..
I believe the bore scoring issue is the result of a fuel/environment issue. From what I've researched, it was first thought that cold weather starts affected the bores so cars from canada and northern climate type places like that. Then, it seems winter fuel could be the issue. I think this issue, like the IMS may have been blown out of proportion thanks to the internet. That said, I think if you want to mitigate your risks for buying a problematic 997, get a later build 2006 or newer. That solves the IMS issue for the most part. Then, get a PPI of course, but bore scope more importantly. Then, get a low mileage/low owner with great work history. And buy a 997 from warmer/dry climate states. Lastly, be sure you can perform a cold start or at least get a video of a cold start. No initial soot/smoke out of the left tail pipe. That should get you a well sorted 997. By the way, all this advice is if you're on a serious budget. If you're not, you can avoid the issues altogether and just buy a 997.2 (2009-2012). Completely different engine.
I agree, I have a 997.2 2012, 911 four GTS. six speed. All the issues he discussed are eliminated in those dot cars. . Money would be the issue. Those cars are all running between 70 to 100 grand in the 50,000 mile or under range.
I disagree. Buying any 997.1 is risky but if you want to roll the dice on one you’re best bet is a 2005 or early 2006 3.6L model with a replaceable IMSB. Get a PPI including bore scope. If it passes you can easily replace the IMSB on these early cars with one of the proven aftermarket bearings. The 3.6L engine is less prone to bore scoring. The late 2006 through 2008 cars had the larger IMSB, which are an improvement, but they still fail at an unacceptable rate and they are not replaceable. Unless you disassemble the engine.
Changing the spark plugs and coils of the 997.2 is an absolute nightmare and very costly. Be sure that it has been done before you buy one. Terrible engineering regarding that. Shame on those engineers
Anyone who says "the internet is blowing it out of all proportion" either owns one with engine trouble already and are trying to sell their own car or are just ostracising themselves hoping it doesn’t happen..!! Be extremely thankful, that this gentleman, is making you aware of the problems that you will definitely come up against. It’s not only 1%-2% that suffer - it’s only that number that doesn’t..!! They’re an absolute nightmare; and any vehicle that’s had some kind of issue before you own it, without your knowledge - Is just like buying a grenade..!!
I got 4th 996 and two 986 and never had ims, issues and everything you mentioned. Replaced seals on spark plug tubes, engine mounts, AOS , that’s it , also I do regular oil change After your “professional “ advice it’s better to buy Kia
Why no commentary in the 991’s? Any major problems on them, I haven’t heard any (IMS, bore scoring) so that’s why I bought a 991.1 manual, 2015. I like to know your thoughts on the 991.1 gen. Thanks!
thanks for your vid...i have a quick question for you. I have a 2006 Cayman S (987) with 78k miles. Runs great! do you think I should be concerned with Bore Scoring, now that i have more miles on the car? I appreciate your vids. thanks.
I agree. I have a 986. I bought it for $13.5 and have put $12k into repairs and upgrades. I love the car though and it is an amazing car. Regardless of my issues. I would only trade it in for a newer Porsche. I am hooked.
The very reason why you dismiss the 986 is the reason to get it. IMS can be changed and teir 2.5 litre engines are nearly immune to bore scoring. But if the engine dies, it is not a financial catastrophe. Sell the car to the junkyard and you did not go broke. Whereas an engine for a 997, 991 or 992...
I could not disagree more. An early Boxster S would be my first choice in that list. 2000, 2001. Swap in a 3-4 top, and you have a great car. In my view, that car is better than the comparable 911. Excluding a major engine build, the maintenance is comparable to any 20 year old car. Further, by the car for you. Not the next guy. I see no point owning a Porsche with an automatic transmission. It takes a couple hours to learn to drive stick safely and a couple weeks to drive decently. It takes a lifetime to master. That is the point. All of these cars are better than comparable brands.
I've got the PDK in my 997.2 and love it. It feels like a manual, and obviously shifts a hell of a lot faster. Personally, I wouldn't ever want to go back to a manual.
Yes boys. I have a 996 turbo manny. Hard to go wrong. And I am rolling the dice. I have a 987 Cayman S. But, it’s from warm HI so I think I’m good. 65k on the clock. Manny as well. And another roll. I just picked up a 970 Panamera turbo with the ceramics for cheap. High miles. Let her ride. Cheers.
I bought a 958(Cayenne) it was on the higher end of my budget, but I am alot happier with it than the 955/957s I was looking at. 20,000 miles on it since purchase and no issues, other than age related issues...Tires, plugs, etc.
I am with you, I don't think he is real mechanic. Just a RU-vidr. He's hand are not mechanical looking one, plus doesn't know the Porsche's well, just reads.
I have a 2000 986 S manual. I have done the IMs clutch rear main seal.. complete suspension upgrade. Brand new tires. Cooling system overflow tank. I have 12 k USD in the car. It is a wonderful car and I hate the interior's on the 987 they look like a Toyota to me. Could not be happier. Car also has a tune on it and is very fast...3 years ..no issues..
Nathan, This is my favorite show you've ever done. And I've watched a lot. I felt like you were talking to your brother, straight up and in plain terms. I'm lucky - I've got a 25 year old Boxster that only has 32,000 miles on it and it just goes and goes. So far ..... Really enjoyed this show. Jim in Denver
I've a 1996 993 C2 iris blue metallic, 66,000 miles, 6-speed manny tranny, varioram, LSD. No CEL, no oil leaks. Multi-show full-concours winner. I do my own maintenance. I'm never selling it.
1:38 - I'm really surprised to hear that the older early 996 doesn't have bore scoring issues. Is this why I heard that these early cars are quite collectible? And also, surprised you didn't mentioned the 997.2 doesn't have bore scoring issues. Or do they still? Thx for a great in sight though.
I personally have a 2009 997.2 manual transmission 3.6 and I think that’s the sweet spot so I’m not sure what he’s talking about. If you can find the second generation 997 and a manual you’ve got it made as far as I’m concerned.
The 986 beats the living heck out of the Modern MX5 in every way! I love the little light moderns Mazda’s but the 2.5 Flat 6 in the 986 is a pure pleasure to drive with a 5 speed manual or even with the triptronic transmission it always puts a smile on your face! I would not agree it’s a “cruiser” not a “Sharp sports car” as the video suggest, it’s a car with a spirit and personality that you have to learn in order to make the human connection with this mid engine, perfectly balanced and weighted delight if a machine and German engineering! The balance is impeccable and they even had to down grade the performance so it would not compete with the 911! Both the Mazda MX5 and 986 are light on their feet and handle phenomenally, the 986 has much more performance but actually requires precise drivers input versus the MX5 which seems like easy to drive and handle after a few runs! The 986 has better balance, more power with high revving linear power&WAY more refined fun⚙️🥳 It’s a car that not only grows with you day by day as you bond with it but a car that grows on you as you appreciate its refined and exquisite performance! The car’s abilities are far more advanced than the drivers ability which makes it’s a fun car that’s quick on its feet with perfect balance but also a tool that is an extension of the driver that provides ability and a charm that is just lacking with the Mazda’s-It’s impeccable 👌 Ps. If you know you know! Perfect balance, perfect powerband, exquisite style and personality with amazing German engineering and charm that you will appreciate day by day as you and the car become 1-💚 Ps. If you are a driver you will appreciate a car that has the perfect balance, character and charm of the 986-it’s a pricless and ever growing experience and journey of love and life! The 986 still has the spirit of the original Porsches and those that drive them have a relationship where not only is that spirit evoked from the car but a journey is started with the driver constantly refining the drivers abilities in a marvel of engineering and a hidden gem in the car community with smiles ear to ear included 🥳✅ -------------------- The experience of a mid engine, flat 6 convertible with a high revving motor and perfect balance is one that cannot truly be put into words but only experienced and enjoyed! 🤩👍 (Exquisite, refined and truly priceless) ⚙️🏎️🔥🔥🔥🔥💨💨💨💨💨💨 I appreciate the 2.5S over models with larger engines because of the power bandwidth-it requires and allows you to rev high and let that beautiful engine sing an exquisite song as you smile the whole way along! The bigger motors are heavier and maybe more of GT cars rebadged to keep the 911 the top tier model but the older lighter 2.5 flat 6’s like to be pushed and provide more of a connection with the car and driver while being quicker on its feet which keeps the Porsche spirit alive and keeps you smiling ANYTIME you drive (Light,perfect balance,great handling,high revving convertible=A PHENOMENAL&SPLENDID TIME🤩) People sleep on the 2.5’s and some even sleep on the Triptronic S transmissions but I have driven many cars and the 99’ 986 manual or Triptronic S’s are truly a hidden gem!!! Especially for those that love2drive😉 Forgot to mention it will always be a sharp, classy, iconic, refined and beautiful piece of engineering full of original Porsche spirit! A one of a kind Timeless piece of art indeed-👌 (The 986 was the first water cooled Porsche also making it apart of history forever! ICONS live forever⏳) Truly a timeless peice of engineering that is often overlooked but appreciated by those that truly value engineering&ear to ear smiles on the road from the backroads to the tracks 2.5 IS A DRAGON PERIOD-🏆🐲🏎️ (Light,perfect balance, short gear ratios, high revs=HIGHTIMES⚙️🥳) Your spirit connected with the spirit from Porsches engineering and cars that represented their true original glory will bring smiles and love to your story & your own person journey 😉
So, as someone that is only looking to buy a car if I'm keeping it forever (yeah, I know, life happens, but it's the goal to not sell), can drive and prefer manual, and is partial to Caymans, what is the calculus on used Caymans? I'm probably a few years out from being able to afford a new one, but I do worry about them moving away from gas powered Caymans because of all the regulations happening around the world.
