What is the ego? | Krishnamurti

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@TheTraveler2222 Год назад

He is trying to point out the distinction between awareness and thought. The thinker has bought into the false premise of “I think therefore I am”. If we identify that we are no more than our thinking and our thoughts (the only instrument) then we are bound to suffer. However we are NOT our thinking or thoughts, we are the AWARENESS behind them, after all we are AWARE and we know when we are thinking and what thoughts we are thinking, we are the observer watching a movie but the ego have confused us into believing that we’re an actor or a participant in the movie. We are the awareness or the “I AM” behind them, that is the key to liberation!

@harlandsbff Год назад

Thank for that Traveler.

@puramravana6500 Год назад

Happy Journey traveler, thanks

@Ritziey Год назад

@@puramravana6500 😂

@jameschesterton Год назад

Nicely put.

@robduijf2752 Год назад

You lost me here, Traveller. There is no objective 'I' - the ego-non-ego-contradiction - in the brain, nor are there such objective structures as 'me', 'self' or 'psyche'. They are simply not there, they don't exist. There is only thought, playing the trick of identification, that fools us. And because we are not aware of this illusion, that virtual ego and the rest of it - division, thus conflict - comes into being, manifesting itself through our behaviour in reality. The individual is the manifestation of the ego, that wrongly claims: "I think, so I am", with all its identities and consequenses. So who is the 'I', the 'we' that claims: "I am aware"? What is awereness? The thing it self? Actually 'being aware'? There is only one way to find out and that is: being aware... But there is no 'I', no cognitive movement involved in this.

@aswathithrivikraman4970 Год назад

"Thought is the response of knowledge and memory, which is the past."

@francismadden8561 Год назад

knowledge, experience is memory, which is the past

@MichaelConnell-zb8me 5 дней назад

And the past can't experience the present according to what K said,because it is so not because he said it's so

@roblox-vp1rq Год назад

He always wonders if we understand. Good thing it is here now for a very long time, giving us ample opportunity to go over this information until we properly get it. Thanks for the upload :)

@Joshualbm Год назад

The ego is the accumulation of thoughts and beliefs comprising one's sense of self but is an illusion. All egoic sensitivities can be observed. Therefore, none of them can actualize as anything more than transient and ephemeral experiences, witnessed from the non-transient, immovable, ever-present self. Even silence, emptiness... witnessing itself are phenomenal. What remains is what sees. Thou art that.

@TheNate206 Год назад

Leggo your ego

@mirian593 Год назад

Can you observe without the thought coming into the observation? I dont think he really explained that, at list not in this short video.😢

@elmarwagner2683 Год назад

For all those who find it difficult to observe the me without a movement: You can observe your past. Just think about what you recently did and try to get some insight. Explore! If you want an insight that is different from your habits and conditioning, you need to look at the circumstances as if you were looking at a third person. What is (s)he doing? Is that correct? Can (s)he do it better? Choose a repetitive pattern to look at, because if you find out what you can do better, then you can do it better next time. If you got enough practice, you can start to observe the me as if it was s(he) at this very moment. An ideal way to learn to observe without a thought is to learn to observe the facts. Facts that have no room for thought.

@shwetashwarai9253 11 месяцев назад

How can an observer observe himself? Before this question, a question also arises that how do you know that "you", who is observing "himself" as an observer, is a true observer, is there anyone present to observe your observation?

@aswathithrivikraman4970 6 месяцев назад

3:07 thought is the response of memory, which is the past. Thus thought is rooted in the past and is limited, narrow and can never be whole

@samsunny8642 5 месяцев назад

You came back here after a year ? Did you kill your ego ?

@祈祈-q3x Год назад

自我說我只有那個工具所以它就把自己變成只有那個工具 WOW 好棒的敘述慕提老師

@valdirbergamobergamo5396 Год назад

Ele está correto. Com fogo não se pode ver o fogo, pois ficará embriagado com o fogo. Deve haver uma energia superior que permita observar o ego, com suas limitações e tempo. Pois somente o superior pode ver o inferior, iguais não se percebem. Ao ficar estático e ver os pensamentos que vão e vêm, o processo de desapego inicia, a desindentificação está a caminho; e o observador começará a ter mais energia. Se um fio da consciência for ativado por este ou outros meios, agora é só ampliar a observação, e o espaço entre o observador e a mente ficará cada vez mais óbvio. Grato pela intuição.

@Deso958 Год назад

As this is the only instrument we are born with and it is limited, we must find a way to transcend the limitation of thought. I suppose we must somehow have a kind of discernment between the limitation of thought and also the observer without thought. As this can be very difficult at the start and unpredictable, it is also possible. 😊

@RicklessSanchez 8 месяцев назад

If Tucson Az people keep talking about ego they're already becoming two-face then overconfident.

@mobiustrip1400 Год назад

Freedom from wanting to "know" Hallelujah

@eribertodagatan6876 Год назад

Awareness see emotion and thinking processes. Awareness is the transcendental consciousness. Higher or deeper thinking or feeling. If you are tremendously aware that is the fullness of life that jesus christ want us to have. It is the kingdom of God that is within each one of us.

@dr.sureshsaravdekar4410 Год назад

Use of Ego , mind and thought .. Is like Digging with an instrument which has limited power to go deep deep inside for in search of truth.. Thanks sir ji 🙏 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

@ankitnagda100 Год назад

all 3 of them are the same btw

@VicSC Год назад

5:55 great analogy to explain it clearly and simply. I think it can be understood that thought being an interpretation of reality, by confusing it with reality, conflicts can appear.

@MichaelConnell-zb8me 5 дней назад

Dualality

@MsArtaUSA Год назад

Thank you Lord for this wisdom that you convey thru your manifestation as Krishnamurti🙏🏻

@amsi8483 Год назад

you're thanking a concept

@claudiakuchling Год назад

Denken von GESEHENEM UND ERLEBTEN, muss nicht eine Reaktion hervorrufen.. ICH finde es nicht falsch, gerade für die Zukunft, dass meine "Gedanken" sich nach erlebten eine objektive Meinung über etwas bilden (ohne zu urteilen!), gerade um mein Denken zu erweitern. Den Egoismus weitestgehend hintanzustellen, sollte mit Sicherheit das Ziel eines jeden Menschen sein!

@itzcm6270 Год назад

true genius. Thank you Krishnamurti !

@ujjjval Год назад

*"Thought" is the response of knowledge and memory, which is the Past.* So the *"Thought"* is the Past, modifying itself all the time, but it is rooted in the Past. And *therefore it must always be limited, narrow, can never be whole.* ~JK

@surindersingh-uq4vl Год назад

When k says " Be light to thyself" Is it not a thought? How can you nullify the importance of thought.? We are what our thoughts have made us Lofty thoughts can take you out from your low Vibes

@ujjjval Год назад

When K said "Be light to thyself" means he indicated to higher *Self* not *little self* as we are.

@Infinitelynobody 8 месяцев назад

@@surindersingh-uq4vl Sir we are the awareness of our thoughts but not our thoughts...

@ledoragiv7001 10 месяцев назад

When K talks, it's The Life who talks.

@allsouls5997 Год назад

Thinking doing good to the wrong people will by your kindness change things for good

@dej25 Год назад

Can you explain more? Thanks.

@Fonteseca1 5 месяцев назад

I will "refrain" my ego... Tomorrow I go back to work...Oh, I'm not handling this... I find I have to push for me to handle this... Oh no, Im trying to control things again. Maybe I shall just stop working or change my attitude in it, not trying to control things...

@shantak1277 4 месяца назад

When one sees that thought itself is limited and thus cannot help solve its own conflicts, what next? Most likely when we truly realize this, all thoughts suddenly comes to a stop. Then in this silence, awareness rises and has a chance to bring about order in our lives.

@SaithMasu12 3 месяца назад

In my experience thoughts go on. They sometimes can be silenced, but they will reappear. There is nothing one can do about it. Silence is in detachment of them. In other words: they go on automatically without any doership.

@bikerjon8934 7 месяцев назад

is he talking about waffles?

@takhetare6854 19 дней назад

yes viewer is trying to understand it

@piehound Год назад

Mr. Krishnamurti is investigating the subject of conflict and what part the ego plays. I wonder if the bible addresses the same question with this verse in Proverbs. *WHERE THERE IS CONFLICT THERE IS PRIDE.* If so . . . then " pride " and " ego " as defined by Mr. K are the same. No ????

@chiptowers1 Год назад

If the ego is, quote; " being created by thought" " thought which is limited", then from where did that ego enter thought for thought to suddenly think of ego. quote; " what is it" the ego. The ego is the tool that the form uses to reveal its presence to the brain. Because the form is not a concept, then that that is received into the brain by thought via the ego tool should be considered as form, physical form, because the form that formed the intelligent species initially can only be of a physical form whether you know how that physical form formed initially or not. It is not, ego, quote; "the product of thought" because thought cannot form a physical form, thought only uses a physical form tools within that physical form. Why is thought there, to attain knowledge, imprinted knowledge from the physical source that formed the intelligence species. We have come a long way of understanding since Krishnamurti who actually has missed the boat.

@robduijf2752 Год назад

There is another instrument, which is the brain itself, having the complete capacity to be aware, when that capacity is not absorbed by any limited, egocentric thinking. Thought, however limited, is necessary for practicle reasons to function as human beings - but only then! - whereas divisive egocentric thinking limits our holistic functioning.

@KINGJUNAID555 Год назад

Yes thought is necessary in the physical world but it is not necessary in the psychological world.

@carniamellato4021 Год назад

Forse. La valanga di psicologi e psicoterapeuti in azione sul pianeta fondano il loro corretto agire su questo postulato 'olistico' sono avanti sì, ma c'è di meglio. Considerare l'altro come noi stessi, amarlo senza giudicare, e non avrà bisogno di leccarsi le ferite.

@HarshaniUthpala-h3e Год назад

I guess there might be shame which I can't enjoy. We make reasons to not to feel that but wound continuously pulling us to the fact. When it pulling us we make more powerful imaginations to by changing the essence of facts. I cant think more.

@azloii9781 4 месяца назад

I really gotta leggo my eggo

@4allritesh Месяц назад

❤❤❤

@googleg5877 Год назад

Greed which is inside all and fearful

@stevenmehl721 Год назад

Whatever Krishna G, just don’t Lego my Ego 😂

@sarinalesage6638 Год назад

The other instrument we can use is watching in complete Silence Force, and only interfering with what we se e happening if we can feel that our intterfering is completely correct and helpfull for the situation we observe.....

@laughingbat1695 6 месяцев назад

i dont get it

@agnwstospais7553 Год назад

It's all in his initial phrases. When i say "you" I make the assumption that I am separate entity from this "you" and this you is as antagonistic as "i am"