What is the lowest wind you can kite in? 

This was an amazing day. Armen was a true gentleman and an amzing embassador of kiting and flysurfer. Thank you Lori and Yuri for helping to promote this sport especially in Toronto.

Love your community and the team work, helping each other even if the wind is not as fun as it can be! much love from the Netherlands

Your videos are so pleasant. Love the wind speed in the corner.

Great attitude of knowing your skills and being respectful of other kiters, so +1 for going to another area to not be in the way of people who were already out and about, especially in low onshore winds where space is an issue! @ others reading this, please note that the same is true for all other conditions as well, like big waves or strong wind - if you don't really know yet what you are doing or won't be able to respect the rules/right of way, stay on shore or go to a less crowded area, and stay out of the way of those who can handle the conditions (especially waveriders catching waves).

Thank you! This is so informative ❗️

Thanks, quite a useful info and very impressive.

I really enjoyed this video! Another great job guys! Objective and good camera work! 👍👍

Thanks for another very interesting video. Was out today in the ocean on a 12M. Plenty of wind. Earlier today before wind started blowig tried Efoil in the ocean. Still can't get up on that thing even thought I took a two hour lesson a few weeks ago.You guys foiling is impressive

Hi you forgot something it makes a huge difference in air temperature . In the winter you need less wind to get going. Absolutely lovely to see you on the foil🙋.

You guys make fantastic videos.

Totally my favourite channel - giving back so much. Would love a little more education on the wind with some more graphics. Thanks. Nice looking Jackson.

Exponential: e^n. Quadratic: n^2. Kinetic Energy: 1/2*v^2. Sorry couldnt let it pass. The relationship is Quadratic not exponential. Nice vid!

Light wind wind/kite foiling is amazing, nothing better IMO. Before foils I used a giant 11.7 formula windsurf sail, now I can use an 8.6 in the same conditions.

That’s awesome, killing it in 🇨🇦🤙

So cool. Kudos. I just saw your IG post from yesterday (one year after you posted this :-) ). Wind couldn’t have been much stronger either, so I was a bit envious of foil kite and board. So interesting Armin can almost make it at 4kts.

Great vibes love your content. Aloha from Hawaii🤙🏼💛

1:49 Armin sure having fun....lol

with this wing you can go in 0knots if you a good pumper :)

Hi Laurie and Yuri, thanks for testing all these myths and limits! Great vlogs! Question for you: I meet a guy on the beach in St. Martin who had a flysurfer and said that rather than circling the kite in lite air, he recommended backstalling it a good ways backwards and then letting the bar way out to have it take off diagonally up. I haven't had the right conditions to try it yet but figured you might be able to compare the backstall/release to the kite loop for light air starts, particularly with foil kites. thanks!

I can't calculate the exact proportionate math behind how much I like your videos between the value of the info quality and my crush on the girl, but it's probably exponential. The more I watch the more I like ~ Thinking of getting a Flysurfer large for light wind and definitely getting a foil if I survive the learning curve.

You said, "I know what you are thing, that doesn't look like fun", just as I was thinking that.

Great Video !

love this, subscribed

The increase in the firce if the kite vs the wind speed isnt exponential. It is proportional to the square of the wund speed.

Ha ha been there plenty of times with my Lotus 18m + hydrofoil. Mostly in the ocean, once past the breakers, fun time. Some times inland lakes, but caution, wind can change direction in those very light winds, ie 4 to 5 knots, which can equate to a swim.

I would also add the affect of the humidity.. as 8 knots in 80-90% humidity is something completely different than in a regular humidity :) Thanks for all the videos u guys do!

Peak kite with short line will get you going much more comfortably at the same wind level

With a Speed 3 21 and a flydoor L i was kiting many years ago from 6 to 8 knots

Great content! Love your videos. What about closed cell vs open cell vs single/no stut LEI? Seems that the problem with low end wind is not the kite being able to fly, but generating enough power to get off the water.

Quality of wind is important. Constant sea breeze of 4-5kn is enough for me to go on HF but turbulent lake wind of 4 kn is something different.

It would be great to do a vidéo on how two jump with a Soul. I see on Woo you toped 11m2. I have a 12m2 Soul and find it hard to go over 5 m2.

Thank for this great video showing us the limits👍 As you said the wind was low but steady, coming from the center of the lake without trees turbulences! Would you make another video from your experts (especially in TT) to show how to manage very gusty low winds, moving in a second from 0 to 15knts very often, without stalling the soul 15, and if it happens, how to avoid it will roll over the lines making take off in water quite tricky

6-8 knots on foil with Core Xlite 9m2

On my Speed III 19m2 I can start going as soon as the kite stays in the Air stable - around 5 knt. Then a Hydrofoil is enough. For my Flydoor M I need - nowat least since my kite is older and more porous - at least 6-7 knts.

As a windsurfer I must admit that i´m jealous. Maybe i must try kite for low winds...

Hey it's Azza from Mandurah Australia. What application are you using on your phone for the wind speed. Also I understand to depower the kite not to stall it out but some other watchers may not understand why you depower the kite in light wind. I'm 6'3" and 90kg and on my 14mtr switchblade I struggle @ 12knots kitelooping to start t and on a 155 twin tip. Great watching your videos. Where in our off season at the moment. The wind we do get is gusty and stormy. So it's great watching and waiting for our wind to change 👍

Don't forget the difference between salt water and fresh water. Just returned from PEI where I noticed a considerable difference in marginal conditions.

Which board are you using @ 6'19"? It looks like a twin tip board with a box for mast connection to me. That would be a great combo! Great videos by the way ;) Avo

8 knots on twintip with sonic2 18m2 and 34m lines

Good for you! What front wing maker model!?

I was trying in 10 knots yesterday. Any little lull in the wind made it impossible to even get my feet up onto the board. Its gotta be REALLY steady wind to do it in wind that light. I did one time manage to do it in 6 knots.

that's crazy you also need crazy skill to pull that out

Be interesting to see how the new Aluula kites perform. Half the weight, 2 times stiffer, 10 times stronger. Should be super good in light wind

Where is this launch? I'd like to check it out and hang with you all sometime!

No vlog is complete without Kent!

Which music is used in the beginning.. really nice.

At 65kgs 12m flysurfer soul. Min 3 av 4 gusting 6.5 I can have a good session. But in those conditions it can easily go wrong 😂🙈. Also a bigger board helps you to increase speed before you lift.

I've done 6 knots with the FS boost 15 and a tt on flat water. With a soul I think 5 knots is no problem.

Density of wind is the key factor. If that was 4.5 knots of cold air, you would have seen a different result. Also, a 21m Race kite with a low aspect wing like the one he is on would also work better, of course Armin knows this....

I'll love to keep it at 10-12 knots that atleast gives me some time to do my other hobby's to.

Can a wingfoil beat kite at the lowest kitefoiling winds? Kitewing goes in surprising low winds but I think kite beats when the wind is at limit, around 4-5 knots

I can go in 6-7knots with my 17m strutless and a space skate wing.

Video Idea - explain how to pack a kite up as how long to dry it ?

Impressive if I could do this.... Wow. I would kite Every day

What size kite were you using at 9kts

Hi guys compliments for the channel… I weigh 100 kg and the wind condition South of Italy 10-12 knots average, based on that What size of Kite should I buy? Best Toto

As a former windsurfer but I have never done kite boarding. Why not just get a board almost like a 6 foot surfboard so you can kite in very light wind?

Just as an aside, haven't you found the water *freezing* in Toronto this year? I don't know how you can stand it!

7 knots, Ozone Edge 17" + foil, no kite or foil pumping. 6 knots the same with Flysurfer Soul like on this video. Just one or two loops to start

6 knots with the Gin Marabou 12m and a big ish front wing on my hydrofoil. I’m 80 kg but with better skills than mine I’m sure u can go with 1 knot less. Condition: 39-40c and 40-50% humidity in Dubai ;)

The best kite for super light winds is the peter lynn twinskins. I am always the only one with a kite working here is Spain in light winds. Best kites to learn hydrofoil so easy with autozenith. Unless you have flown one you just wouldn't understand:-)

I kite foil at Sherman island and prefer light wind.

Why did Armin choose the 15m Soul though!? As MR FLYSURFER I would have taken the Sonic VMG in 21meters^^

Have u guys tried 21m Ozone R1v3? Would be a way easy to go.

I was thinking just small wind would be better for beginners guess not id think if you know how to pump the board

Tarifa 35 knots 7m² let's gooo no fun with 10 knots for me.

9.5m ocean rodeo roam and big wing can get out in 4!

For me its 8knots, with a door twin tip and a 14m normal kite (im pretty light)

What is the surface of the Frontwing ?🤔

"Wind force" is not exponential w.r.t. wind speed. It's quadratic!

I know that guy who is telling us all what an excellent rider Armin is. This guy ( a vet) has visited us in Squamish BC and also Nitnaht. He is only flying Flysurfers. Now the real truth n this video is that Armin is riding a battery powered foiled that is cleverly disguising. Just kidding. Yet another great video to educate and entertain us.

😲😲😀😀👍🏄‍♂️

I’m sad. Armin didn’t get to experience swimming in Kipling 😝

5 Knoten mit der 21er revolt

It is quadratic, not exponential :) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lift_(force)

Starting from 9knots I usually go with my 137cm TT board and 18m Switch Helium inflatable kite. It's possible to do even 7-8knots, but boring =))) So I don't understand why that guy had problems with a door board at 10,5knots.

Shoal Bay? But water looks to clear 😂

6knots

Of course he's a German I reckon

. Hmmm, I was going to share this video. But - hey you people! The rest of the world is in metric! Yes, I know what it equals.

Also...pump with your feet not with your arms!

have to have soul....

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The question is not what is the lowest wind someone else or everyone can kite board in but "what's the lowest wind I can kite in." It will spend on your kite, weight and board. This isn't a one answer for everyone and stupid question.

5 knots is my limit.. you need to have the right kite. Soul is not it

Err don’t bother in light wind real waste of a day. Go do something else

those videos promoting one brand get boring.