What Is The Saw Nib For

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What is the purpose of the saw nib?
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@bruceanderson9003 Год назад

I always thought the nib was a laser sight mount, and the laser sight itself just took longer to invent than the Egyptians were expecting.

@bradfiske8103 Год назад

As a carpenter by trade I was trained to set a finish nail in wood and then measure the required radius and scribe a circle. Hooking the nib at the nail and placing a pencil at the root of the tooth and spinning the saw to mark the circle to be cut.

@MelvinGrified Год назад

Hello, how is everything going over there. I'm Melvin and I want us to talk it's very important.

@jayski9410 Год назад

This reminds me of when I learned all about the framing square's extra features. That knowledge came to me from a book called "Steel Square" by Gilbert Townsend first published in 1939. You learn that the square is almost a solid state computer for the carpenter of those days. Especially when paired up complimentary tools like the sliding T bevel and dividers.

@charleswestbrooks1257 Год назад

Jay Ski my Father was a union carpenter following WW2. He kept all his books from his days as an apprentice and now I have all his books including "The Steel Square" by Gilbert Townsend. I've leaned a lot for those old books.

@graywulf19 Год назад

I think one of the things we really have lost as a consumer society is the idea that sometimes "decoration" is itself a purpose.

@jayztoob Год назад

When I learned woodworking from my dad in the 1950s, he had several saws with nibs. The rip saw he gave me had two nibs; one at 2" and another at 4" from the cutting depth. His crosscut saws didn't have nibs. The construction techniques at the time required cutting lots of notches, and we used the nibs to gauge the depths of the cuts. By the 1960s we could no longer find saws with consistently placed nibs, so we would break them off. Some saws had a notch insead of a nib, but those disappeared, too. It's too bad those old saws weren't made with modern metals; they performed best when sharpened daily, bent easily, and would eventually break. Other carpenters had other explanations for the nibs and notches, but Dad and I put them to good use.

@LChalifoux Год назад

Well that is fascinating! Thanks for sharing that history. As a jewelry maker, the original purpose of the nib as a maker's mark immediately made sense to me. And then I thought it might be fun to pierce a small design in the end of a saw blade as an "owner's mark". Doesn't need to be fancy - a small geometric design would work - as long as it's tidy and clean. A nice finishing touch for plain older saws you've found at a flea market and refurbished with elbow grease and love.

@nigelwylie01 Год назад

10:57 “So why is the nib there? It’s there because we are human; and we are drawn to beautiful things that inspire us and make us want to do better. And that’s probably the best use you could possibly have for a nib.” Very nice speech sir. You really are an inspiring philosopher. Thank you.

@johnpae9236 Год назад

This sortof history and exploring how these details and rituals connect us to our human past is something that I love to see. Thanks for the great lesson!

@SandyMasquith Год назад

Fascinating. I don't know why, but this is fascinating information! Thanks for taking the time to research and make this video.

@jamesthompson7825 Год назад

All new information to me. I ran downstairs to my shop to see how fancy the nib was on my old Disston saw and I am nibless. I didn’t know what a nib was until ten minutes ago and now I am bummed that I don’t have one. At least your tee shirt equation gave me a smile.

@jeb419 Год назад

That sums it up very well. Clearly just a decorative element and mark of a caring craftsman (or company) .

@hydrochloridrix Год назад

This reminds me of how artists put a fly in every painting they did. Why? Because they could do it and more importantly, to show that they could do it. Anyways, great video as always!

@orandilu989 Год назад

I LOVE this deep dive. Excellently explained, fantastic build up into the reveal and reasoning behind it. + more 😊 It's obvious you spent hours upon hours researching this. Thank you immensely for converting it into such a (relatively) short and entertaining demonstration of what you've learned. You rock.

@professor62 Год назад

You hit a home run with this vid, James! VERY informative, educational, and entertaining all at once! And as you always say, “So thank you for that!” Would love to have more of these, professor! :-)

@allenguffey9370 Год назад

Love this one! nothing like a little history lesson on old tools!

@hardrock1826 Год назад

The artistry in those saw handles is really impressive. I'm going to keep my eyes open this summer in the hope I can find one or two at farm sales they have from time to time. And I'll keep my eyes open for a saw with a Nib.

@bigoldgrizzly Год назад

My grandfather used to say 'it is just for nice' ... ie ornamentation

@dakusa_dave Год назад

I always thought the comment was a decorative feature, like the nib on a saw. Now I know it has real utility. Thank you.

@margaretaltvater8765 Год назад

you had me hooked! your right "not the answer we want". great video! i really enjoyed the deep dive in time. on some history of the saw. thanks for sharing!

@markhinds1361 Год назад

I really enjoy your in-depth approach to the true art of woodworking. Thank you

@rewindowl4607 Год назад

That is actually really neat! I love the history behind it and how it evolved over time.

@dallen521 Год назад

Thank you for that. I enjoyed your enthusiasm explaining about “the nib”.

@SkylersRants Год назад

I always assumed it was an alignment point for the manufacturer, letting him put it in a jig for some sort of fixture.

@iainmcculloch5807 Год назад

Thank you for this James. I have occasionally wondered about nibs, but never got around to doing any research (and none of my saws actually have one). Now I know. 😄

@ElizaJ42 Год назад

I'm a stitcher; learning about any tools is relevant and interesting. Thanks for the labor of love.

@larryk6330 Год назад

I love this kind of suff. Knowng how the tools I use (almost) every day evolved; that's really cool.

@myrlwallace9012 Год назад

Wonderful history lesson! I am one who has always loved a well-made tool. When they are also decorative, it is so much better.

@spook233 Год назад

Thank you for looking into this information! I appreciate learning about traditional crafting designs

@EoinReardon Год назад

very informative and interesting, thanks James!

@rufustoad1 Год назад

Great job. So much architecture that has gone away including in a simple hand saw.

@carlconway Год назад

An interesting history lesson on the saw. Not being a trained craftsman but a hobbyist I wasn't even aware that saws had this detail on them, but now I do I'll look out for it in future 👍🏻

@tdbla98 Год назад

By far one of my favorite wood working RU-vidrs!

@til7545 Год назад

Wow, I didn‘t even know about this nib-thing (my saws sadly don’t have a nib). I just love how you entertain and teach at the same time, it’s great fun watching every time - thank you!!

@JinKee Год назад

Reminds me of the Far Side comic called "Cow Tools." One of the tools looked like a saw, and then people spent 30 years arguing about the meaning of the other tools.

@michaelarighi5268 Год назад

Fascinating! Like the Lascaux caves--no practical use, but an expression of our need for beauty and self-expression.

@jamessunderland362 Год назад

Great video James. Finally someone has done their research and an informative video on this ever debated topic!

@geneoshaughnessy525 Год назад

I appreciate the research. I think when I summarize it, I will say it is there to keep you thinking about how to use your tools. Just based on all of the uses you collected, I'd say it's pretty effective.

@scotsman7626 Год назад

Thank you James, I'm fascinated by the history and evolution of these old hand saws.

@RenoFencingMan Год назад

Love your videos!! My dad and I have talked about the nib several times. We tried searching online, etc. Thank you for solving the mystery.

@timothymallon Год назад

10:58 that quote alone was reason to watch this video! Thanks James!

@djsmith5025 Год назад

I'm a subscriber and watch your videos regularly. Although this wasn't a project video, I enjoyed it thoroughly. I enjoy the history of woodworking and you did a great job delivering this history lesson. Thank you, and I encourage you to do more like it.

@daveyjones7391 Год назад

Thank you! I've been trying to preach the aesthetic value of things like the nib as strictly having aesthetic value by itself for so long ! Didn't know to look to Diston for the "final" word, but I appreciate you doing the research. Cheers from Canada!

@JaspisB Год назад

Love the deep-dive into something I had no idea I wanted to know about!

@marcbarash6045 Год назад

Thanks for the time spent on this special issue.

@adelheidsnel5171 Год назад

Great dive-in, great nibblings!

@mustangtonto5862 Год назад

Thank you for taking what was, I’m sure, a considerable amount of your time to research the subject and to create this video.

@andrewcodelka5158 Год назад

That's why I love your channels, James.... deep dives into the obscure!

@grublet2093 Год назад

That is the best explanation I have heard for the nib! Simple is often the best explanation, craftsman from ages past would spend lots of time making things beautiful including their tools.

@royniederhiser9894 Год назад

Great commentary. Like the nib, it “beautifies” the explanation. No need to question the accuracy. Wish your the very best with your channel!

@mikeandlucky Год назад

Really love the history of woodworking. Thanks.

@haijyhermanni 11 месяцев назад

Brilliant stuff! I bought a big old ripsaw a few years back and it had exactly that kind of tooth guard you were talking about. There was an old yarn that went around the handle, but the other end was attached with a sturdy wire that went around the nib. I always thought it was a bit weird to attach it like that, but kept the guard anyway, because it felt like there's a story behind it.

@onetribeyoyo Год назад

Absolutely love your history lessons!!!

@jennessalynam7682 Год назад

This was a very interesting video. I learned sooo much more about hand saws. Thank you and loved the song at the end! You have a nice singing voice.

@revrinn1324 Год назад

Loved this dive into the nib. It was indeed fascinating.

@andrewbrimmer1797 Год назад

I like how you nibble at the facts and come up with an answer

@ws6619 Год назад

such a great walk down history lane.... you have a talent for this I appreciate greatly.

@PenStyleProductions Год назад

I really love the history lesson. I hope you do more in future.

@dlevi67 Год назад

Excellent video, James. Thank you for making it!

@214rwoz Год назад

Thanks for the info. Thanks for all your time and effort.

@TombstoneThe Год назад

i just like learning stuff, especially related to trades/crafts, and this video was informative and presented well. can't ask for anything more, thank you

@paulkramer4176 Год назад

Hmm, for some reason I'd not looked at many of your videos. When I saw the title I was prepared to find whatever you said not convincing, as I didn't believe there was anyway to prove what it was for. Congratulations. I agree. Very well done. I'm now a subscriber.

@morganhurst_redridge Год назад

That's really interetsing, I'm still fairly new to handtools and I havn't a saw with a nib yet but it cool to know that it's just a sign of craftsmanship!

@theidlehandsworkshop3884 Год назад

VERY interesting historical dive and I love you went all the way back to the Egyptians. I love old Viking age tools and have recreated many of them over the years, I still want to tackle the Roman hand plane and thanks to you, I want to try to make the Egyptian saw.... Thanks Jame's cuz I don't have enough things to make lol

@johntailing5283 Год назад

Fascinating, a couple of my old dads saws had nibs , or what was left of them, , , , as a kid I always thought it was a bottle opener! !

@SilasWasHere Год назад

I knew not much about saws before I watched this video but still found it entertaining. I think I’ll go watch more now

@steh8217 Год назад

I have seen people using the string on the nib before to hold the cover on the saw and thought it was really clever 👍but I'm with you, it's just to look good

@brucematthews6417 Год назад

Great fun! Something so esoteric that generations sought out a reason when there was none.

@peterdewitt8585 Год назад

I really like this type of video, a history of the tools and a good story! More of this type of video please!

@brocbradley2313 Год назад

A great deep dive and extremely informative. I just received a high end panel saw that was shipped with a wood tooth guard. The guard would fall off. I though that I could hold the guard in place with an elastic hair band. My saw has no nib and the band would slide down and become too loose. A nib would have held it in place.

@davybarr5919 Год назад

Very interesting. I've heard lots of theories, but this really makes the most sense.

@johnmm Год назад

What's interesting and relevant now - for saws, and indeed for all tools - is understanding the marks/indicators of quality for each class of tools. Sounds like nibs on saws are a mark of hand saw quality. That and fancy handles.

@The-Backlog Год назад

Was expecting dad jokes, Was NOT expecting a historical delve into ancient Egypt, and a philosophical explanation of man's propensity to seek beauty!

@WoodByWrightHowTo Год назад

I thought I would try to be more like your videos.

@fcmm1 Год назад

Always informative and entertaining! Thank you!

@rbos6285 Год назад

as a carpenter on site in the uk for the past 30 + years and as you say seeing tools change over the years to plastic and rubber and skills also change to less skilfull i am ribbed for my age and asked what and how certain tools are used.... as i said im on site so its only fair to have fun and make things up when asked by the younger members of my team... i Have one of the saws with a nib on it and until now had no idea what it was for so told them it was for siting the saw up for a stright cut when you first start out your training thats why i only have one.... having watched your video im i will now point them in your direction for the truth

@johndudash2579 Год назад

Very cool insights, thanks for the learning, I’ll still be looking for nubbed saws now!

@dannyhale7645 Год назад

That was fascinating. I love learning about the history of tools.

@walterholmes4609 Год назад

Once out of the service in the early 70s I started working for a home builder. Didn't like framing, though, and so started messing about with furniture, but could not afford a table saw. Tried my hand with a couple of old panel saw, the proper name for what is called a 'hand saw' (all saws operated by hand are hand saws.) Anyway, in a subsequent quest to sharpen my saws I turned to the wood guru of my locale, Fred Wyman. I could write a book about Fred, but in short, he told me the nibs were a code for the type and set of the teeth, so the carpenter would alway sharpen them correctly. I never pursued this because I found a shop that sharpened saws. Anyhow, thanks for setting the record straight.

@robertleonard378 Год назад

I have a few old saws and found this quite interesting. So I found myself watching the whole video to see the reason.

@jawkeye Год назад

Pretty neat, sounds like it's like a hood ornament on a car (which I guess did have a purpose at one point, but the fancy part was just to look fancy).

@larryquinn9790 Год назад

James, This was a great video about the history of Saws and the Nib. If the saws were made by individual saw makers and they were moving to a collective group that could sell their saws under a brand name and there was one or more saws makers that used the Nib as a distance measurement of say a few inches in their own craft for their own need, that may have been the reason. It may have been a particular style of craft that needed a quick distance or depth check and a Nib on a saw filled that need. Just a speculative thought process.

@andrewdavidson5209 Год назад

Brilliant I always wondered what that little knob was for, now I know. Thanks Andrew

@colinellicott9737 Год назад

That was a cool stroll down saw alley - thx. I was stumped as to what that nib could be for. Never seen one either, so to learn that it was the feathered cap appendix of saw fabricators explains its evolved omission. Or perhaps more precisely, that quaint informal trademark has been replaced with the formal trademark.

@iancross5311 Год назад

Very interesting, I have some saws with the nib feature but these days I only use Japanese saws as they are so nice to use. The nib saws are with my collection of antique tools.

@michaelgreen429 Год назад

This is wonderful, another fun topic to nerd out with. Thanks

@jas20per Год назад

Here in the uk builders panel saws once had a row of about twenty teeth where you have the nib. Though these where of practical use, for instance if you where cutting a second use piece of timber say in a house or taking up and re adjusting an old floor board and came up against a nail buried in the wood you would turn the saw the Iron nail using the teeth on the back of the saw not damaging a whole run of teeth on the user side.

@alholston-smith7631 Год назад

Very interesting, I enjoy your historical side stories, and they are informative… Cheers

@johng1097 Год назад

Thanks for doing and showing all the research - instead of just sharing Distons answer !

@pitsnipe5559 Год назад

Never seen a saw with that nib before, interesting. I have five saws between 50 to 100 years old. Working to restore them, although they do work well as is.

@WoodByWrightHowTo Год назад

most companies stopped making them over 100 years ago. so they are a bit harder to find.

@hulkthedane7542 Год назад

Thank you for tickling my inner nerd 👍👍👍. I am currently, and have been for a little over 2 years, sick with stress. That has taken away SO many of my layers (Shrek's "I am like an onion"-theory), that I have almost lost myself. I used to LOVE details and nerding, and watching your video makes me realise, that I still do. I keep getting better, and now I got the layer "nerding" back 👍🌞. Thanks!

@jodyblum2189 Год назад

All kidding aside your videos are very informative and fun to watch. Thanks

@TerkanTyr Год назад

I don't sheathe my saw, and I just realized I'm a neanderthal for it. I'm a modern craftsman, cutting a relief in an MDF and cardboard IKEA TV bench so it fits flush without touching the outlet. I cut cardboard rectangles to cover the internal cardboard structure of the TV bench, I glue them on and paint them white. I put the TV bench in place and sit down to play Valheim, where I can use the forest around me as I wish. My ancestors cry.

@rogerslone6742 Год назад

Love you channel,lots of knowledge you share with us, thanks so much

@rhpsoregon Год назад

THANK YOU! Mystery solved. The Disston quote should end any arguements.

@DanielLee-wc9gb Год назад

Nice history of saws. History always takes you to interesting places.

@andykielisch105 Год назад

That makes a lot of sense cuz whenever I make my own tools or workbench whatever I want to make it look nice. When you start making money stuff for the money. It becomes a job it's not a hobby anymore so it makes more sense to cut up the little stuff that takes time and just knock it out.

@peterwilliams8922 Год назад

That's sorted that. Thanks. Some lovely saws there too.

@margaretkrantz1469 Год назад

Really found this an interesting exploration. Thanks!

@RickaramaTrama-lc1ys 6 месяцев назад

I enjoyed your video very much and you obviously know what you are talking about, and I admire that and as My Dad was a Union Carpenter all his life and I as an apprentice for a time learned some things about hand saws and I have some of his old saws with some being sharpened so many times they have close to a point at the end of the teeth. Your lesson on the Nib was interesting and I really didn't have a good understanding about it and now I do so thanks for that, and I was happy to subscribe today so I can learn more History about wooden hand tools.