Afghan people might feel the West abandoned them and the West might feel Afghans never had the stomach to fight for their country and nation build anyway. Both are probably right.
@@pgr3290 The 100 years war was not conducted with the same destructive capabilities. It was more like one army raised here, one battle here, stale mate for a couple of years, etc. Modern wars cost daily lives and even the Napleonic wars themselves were so devastating that the leading figures actively tried to prevent getting themselves into a similar mess, regardless of feelings. So no, your example is absolutely ridiculous.
West gave them billions of dollar, built their roads schools hospital industries, spent billions on training of Afghan national Army, promoted women education and women participation in work force. But Afghan soldiers surrendered to taliban without firing a single shot because deep down Afghans know that Taliban is on right islamic path and democracy is a evil western ideology. There are countries like Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore that developed themselves because of American intervention. Thing is you cant change someone if he doesnt want to improve. USA spent trillion dollar in Afghanistan, did everything for them but Afghanistan failed because afghanis do not want to be changed.
Tell me about it, I was there a few months before the takeover to do some filming. I remember going for a haircut and a shave and being served an energy drink with Bollywood music playing in the background and at night smoking hookah at my hotel rooftop lounge (no alcohol but no big deal) now all of that is gone. All of the friends I made have either left or trying to get the hell out of there.
@@hanzalaomar9915 Not at all. I wish Afghans would have the freedoms that I enjoy. At the very least, they should be afforded the freedoms they got to taste while the west was assisting. Saudis are slowly gaining more freedoms, probably largely thanks to them wishing for western standards. Why would you deny it the Afghans?
Wow. I would tell you that pulling out was originally trumps plan and Biden is the one who implemented it. But like most trump voters. Facts don't mean much to you. Especially when those facts include dear leader.
@@juaan6359 It seems you are the one who does not know much about that. Yes it does matter because whoever was president at the time had control over how the evacuation was done and could have done it a different way. booyah got ya nice try better luck next time kiddo
Nobody wishes or wants to see a grave and dire situation like hunger and famine upon any human, but let's be honest, the whole population of Afghanistan wanted the western coalitions to be completely out of their country and so they left. So I would say that they brought the present horrible situation upon themselves.
We invaded Afghanistan, put a bunch of crooks in charge, and spent twenty years chasing a relatively small number of Arab terrorists around the country, killing a lot of innocent people in the process. Conservative, nationalist Afghans rose against us. We spent billions on the war, but relatively little on economic development. By the time we left, Afghanistan was hugely dependent on money coming in from abroad, and could not feed itself. We share in the blame for that.
@@myahsoodinim8570Exactly. The West is entirely to blame for this mess. The Taliban are the only group with the fortitude to defy the rapacious West and prevail. It's a remarkable achievement.
@@charlo90952 : And the Taliban defy the rapacious west by completely banning education for women and forming a so called government comprising 2 cent headed religious lunatics. Very intellectual of them.
"The afghan government fell much more quickly than anyone would have expected". Anyone who went to combat with the "ANA or "ANP" knew they did not have the backbone to stand up to the taliban. Anyone who worked with politicians and local power broakers in Afghanistan could have told the US government that they were prepping for our pull out and in bed with the TB. The reason it was a 'surprise" was wishful thinking on the side of US politicians and careerism on the part of senior US officials, basicly giving false reports to make their efforts seem like they were "making effects" on the ground in Afghanistan.
@@shubashuba9209don't forget how long they fought now, how many have died in their fight against the Taliban. Many continued to fight after we left Afghanistan but were sold out by greedy and corrupt superiors and were simply left in no position to really hold themselves against the Taliban. A good part of the people in Afghanistan were living the new found freedom through the West, while another good part was against that freedom, with Afghanistan being a complicated country on the political side with many different groups having power, fighting for power and having different views on things.
USA (the most powerful nation in human history) along with its powerful allies were in that country for almost 20 years. They were fighting against primitive people hiding in caves inside mountains. They failed to destroy these cave dwellers and inspite of spending 2$ TRILLION+, they failed to create a local army that can stand against and fight against these cave dwellers. What am I misunderstanding here?
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They just made a decree that closed down ALL beauty shops in Afghanistan a couple days ago. Effectively ending one of the last sectors of the economy that women were allowed to work in. Ridiculous, and so heartbreaking 💔
@@quackcement women in workforce was a scam, now a lot of women don't create families and choose wage slaving and we see how that goes in the west, demographics in free fall across entire "developed" world
I was shocked by the lack of modernization when I was there. It's like you are living 1000 years ago. Although the cities are a bettwr than the rural areas, but they are still living in a different world. Nothing can prepare you for it. There is no parallel.
You cant blame the US for these problems. The problem is their culture. If they want their culture to change it has to be from within, the people must want it and fight for it. A outside source cant change it for them. I dont see a solution. If you want rights, freedom need to fight for it.
Exactly, that is the fundamental flaw of the US nation building exercise. The only reason why there was successes in Japan and Germany is that by the time the war ended, people wanted change.
But the Taliban do not want Freedom. It wants adherence to Sharia Law, Fundamentalist Sunni Belief and the old Pushtun and Pathan borders from the past,even Delhi.
Keep in mind, sometimes geography will forever limit a countries potential. Afghanistan is a harsh climate, full of resources, but a proper mining of these resources would likely be short term development. Oil rich nations fall into Dutch disease over and over, without education and proper industries.
@@thefinalboss2403 What do you know about Islam? Up until the eighteenth century, the Islamic world had by far the largest economy among the world civilizations (Islamic World, China, Christendom).
Yes, the US should focus on only thee courtiers: China, India, and Russia. These are the only countries with demographic and geopolitical potential to become super powers.
In my opinion, it has not been emphasized enough that the Taliban are Afghans. It is not some outside force that has taken over. It is the Afghans who direct and decide for themselves. At first, I felt sorry for the Afghans, but when I found out that a very large part of society supported the Taliban (for example, the Taliban did not encounter resistance when they took power) and the Taliban are simply members of this society, then if they want such a life, so be it.
Ehh, the women in the towns and villages don’t exactly get the chance to resist I think in an ideal world there should be some sort of way for foreign intervention simply to allow women a chance to leave, but yeah that’s about it. If many of the men and some of the women are happy with/prefer the taliban, so be it
Yes we would patrol our area of operation and I could tell the locals hated us. I remember being on the 50 cal in the Mastiff turret and kids would throw stones at us. It didn't take me long to think we needed to get out
This ambassador forgets something: the US had NO insight on this country to begin with, even when they had thousands of troops on its soil and that's why they lost it... and that's probably why they supported, even indirectly, such a group in the first place. For me that counrty ceased to exist, let them make this land the hell they want it to be... the mourning Afghan people did nothing to avoid it in the first place anyway.
The problem will sort itself out in due time. People fight, there’s declines, however since Afghans are finally left to their own fate things will occur naturallyz
@@ZeroResurrected Bah you know what it is: someone felt before you, you proposed him or her again and again your help, answered "no" again and again, so there is a moment you just say "whatever" and let it down. It's childish I know but there is nothing else to do than "let it down and nevermind". I'm sure US, France or UK are tired to dig grave for their soldiers for them to be spit on by a people who hates them. If they want their situation to improuve, they'll have to do it themselves...
My dads friend is send to afghanistan as an economical advisor to taliban. The inflation is dropped to - 1%. He says the taliban has no idea about governing, justice, education or economy. The advisors are basically carrying the remaining afghan economy.
We went in there to get Bin Laden. And we eventually did in 2011. But we stayed believing we could turn a place like Afghanistan into a modern democratic secular state. Policy makers thought they could make Afghanistan in the western image. They were wrong.
Bin Laden was the main quest. Rebuilding Afghanistan was a side quest with a secret ending if completed. I'm American so I can probably speak for most Americans when I say, that after we got Bin Laden, we wanted our troops back home ASAP. We got the mofo who was responsible for 2,500 American deaths on 9/11.
Afghanistan was always destined to be ruled by the Talibans. The Soviet invasion of the 80's didn't stop the Taliban from wresting power back and history was replayed with America's 20-year occupation of the state.
They have lived that way for how long? alot of self righteous fools who think their way of life is the right way, we see what is happening in western societies, I'd trade western way of life to taliban any day as a man.
@@akiogood4712 get an education., there was an Afghan government in power, and 80% of this governments budget was provided by western governments.. so now this money is not flowing and a good job to, just need to make sure all western doors are welded shut and leave the rest to Darwin..
I can see how baised these Americans are telling the brutality of Taliban and skipping the carpet bombings of USA killing hundreds of innocent people...he just skipped it
@@janesmith9024 Yea they definitely suck and their country would be better off without them but I don't believe in discarding good ideas just because bad people use them or even came up with them. I mean, Von Braun was a nazi and we'd be an absolutely moronic species not to use rocket tech for that reason 🤣
I get the backwards part. But why are the Taliban "horrific"? What would you call multiple Coalition troops known for massacring innocent Afghan and in one instance making necklaces of their ears.
There are several things wrong with this video. Yes, militia groups, with covert help from the CIA, other intelligence agencies, and foreign volunteers - the same kind who joined ISIS - eventually threw out Soviet occupiers. But did the Taliban play a significant role? No. CIA help was largely filtered through Pakistan's ISI. During the Soviet occupation ISI gave the lion's share of covert aid to HIG, lead by Gulbuddin Hekmatyar. Other militia groups were usually lead by illiterate leaders. Hekmatyar, and his leadership cadre, were educated. HIG operated offices, in Pakistan and Iran. Millions of Afghan refugees, in the refugee camps in Pakistan and Iran, were confined to those camps, couldn't seek work, or go to school, without some kind of identity papers. Those HIG offices operated like unofficial consulates, and issued a kind of ID card to those refugees. Pakistani and Iranian police accepted those ID cards, and let refugees carrying them travel freely, seeking work, etc. Moronic US intelligence officials would later characterize these millions of HIG ID cards as terrorist membership cards, and send individuals to Guantanamo for possessing one. After the Soviet ouster, the ISI found competent, literate Hekmatyar and his group hard to control. So, the ISI dropped him, and his group, and decided to make a new group, the Taliban, lead by controllable illiterates. Think the Spice Girls, or any boy group. The ISI made them, and controlled them. You missed another key factor. The reason Hamid Karzai's government, and those of his successors, were so weak, is that Afghanistan had no legitimate exports, no taxable economy. So, all its government's income was foreign aid. Opium was Afghanistan's only foreign export. And since the Bush government insisted it remain an illegal product, Afghanistan's government couldn't tax it. The Bush government thought they (1) defeat the Taliban; (2) totally and permanently suppress the opium trade; (3) permanently give Afghan women the same rights and opportunities as women in western nations. They should have given up on the war on drugs, to win the war against the Taliban. There was a proposal, authors included Nobel Prize winners, that Afghanistan's allies concentrate on defeating the Taliban, even if that meant allowing Karzai to legalize and regulate the Opium trade. Fifty years ago Turkey was the world's source of illegal opium. Turkey, eventually, legalized and regulated the growing of Opium. A similar move in Afghanistan would have largely stripped the Taliban of the powerful support of the Opium growers.
Interesting facts. It makes sense that pakistan would want to control a unstable country on it's border. What do you think about the fact that Bin Laden was chilling in pakistan until 2011?
The problem here is that, Human rights is not truly compatible with islamic right. You are asking the wrong question probably, Afghan govt. will enforce Islamic right for individuals but not human rights.
I've always wondered how the Islamic right has gotten the way it is. Or Sharia law for that matter. I've read the Quaran, and half the reasons for stoning or death of any kind aren't even in there. There is no mention of women wearing a full body covering, it just says to dress modestly. There isn't any stoning for adultery, it says they should be lashed, but not killed. There is a lot in the Quaran about adding to the Quaran, which Sharia law does, which means all the Islamic right is committing a crime, according to the Quaran, anyway.
'Human rights' defined by the west, yes. Islam does have its own human rights, but the difference is in Islam, human rights are given and decided by God alone, not by people who think pornography and sodomy are perfectly fine, women selling sex is empowerment, children should be allowed to change their gender and men can become women by taking hormones, putting on makeup and chop their genitals off.
@@nil6226 Problem is that, west never had a complete religious guideline to follow. which now a days being replaced with Human Rights and other terms. you guys follow the these guide lines as if religion but never question them. but want others to follow unconditionally, how lame.
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@@louth2882Nah, I think US still the shitest compares to Afghanistan. There are 4,262 murder rate in US in 2022, while in Afghanistan only 1,095 civilians death since the Taliban took control. Not to mention in the US there are lot of "zombie" people in the street, homeless, beggar, scammers, mass killing, arm robbery, stupid gangs, LGBT, many more.
Afghanistan, coming to a country near you, sooner than you think. There is areas in the UK that feels like an Afghan City now, no go areas, and real sheet holes.
@@leaveourstatuesalone.3378 Okay, from what I can find, those areas - particularly Alum Rock - appear to be high deprivation areas (top 10% in UK); though pretty much half to two-thirds of Birmingham fall into this category. I can't seem to find direct ward-to-ward comparisons but from what I can find, Birmingham as a whole rates fairly typical of a major UK city in terms of crime (including violence and mugging) according to official government stats. Is crime particularly concentrated in these two areas (compared to other deprived areas)? In any case, I can't see any reference to police refusing to patrol in these areas as is typical of "no-go areas" in the traditional sense. And I'm almost certain there aren't a bunch of people walking around with AK-47s strapped to their backs, as seen in footage of actual Afghanistan urban centres. If it helps, my frame of reference is Manchester (which rates high for crime, including for violence and muggings, even when compared to Birmingham); working in the healthcare services and in regular contact with emergency and police services covering Oldham and Rochdale. And if the areas you mentioned are anything like Oldham and Rochdale (which are generally regarded as some of the most deprived areas in Manchester), I wouldn't describe them as "no-go areas".
Even if they do, it's not presented in a positive light. There is an article on the US Institute of Peace website that says "The Taliban's successful opium ban is bad for Afghans and the world."
Then what? Military leader who leads the coup sets up a dictatorship and rules with an iron fist? Sometimes it is better the Devil you know, at least stability is allowing the country to slowly creep forward. As they stablish themselves as a legitimate ruling force international pressure can be applied to change things peacefully. It won't happen overnight but it beats constant conflict and pounding dirt endlessly wondering why nothing lasts
Lol bro we spent 20 years and trillions of dollars equipping them, training them, and giving them more support than they’ll EVER see ever again. If they weren’t willing to stand against the Taliban with all that behind them, they will never stand up against the Taliban. Simple as that. An elephant born in chains will continue to walk in those chains even after its fully grown and could easily break them.
Fundamentalists (of any religion, really) are always interesting to me. Hearing that the Taliban unsurprisingly banned women from education and have very strict dress codes for them is interesting especially because I watched a few videos on Islamic terrorism in Africa and I can’t remember what group, but a terrorist group took over some small towns and they actually encouraged women and girls to get education. The women even said their lives were better than under the previous government because the Islamic fundamentalists brought some peace, stability and allowed them to be educated. The contrast is very weird, but very interesting
The Afghans have embraced demagoguery, which is very lazy. Democratic rule demands mature interaction. Easy, quick fixes come with unpleasant consequences. Where is there any effort to compromise, tolerate, or maturely help the undesirable? Nope, that takes too much time😢. If Afghanistan were a person, I'd suggest it's time to, "Grow up." Money is appropriately frozen, given the Afghans 'abrogated' the original agreements made.
Democracy requires mature interaction to function. Democracy by its very nature leads to the exact opposite. This is why no democracy has ever lasted more than three centuries.
They are simply making a nation suitable for practicing their faith and not a nation for materialism and hedonism. Obviously an atheist won't comprehend this
While you are correct in a sense the reason it became our problem in the first place was the Taliban were allowing terrorist groups like Al-Qaeda to operate from Afghan territory which they had been doing for years before 2001. Once 9/11 happened that was it something needed to be done. The problem now is extremist/terrorist groups can now once again operate there even though the Taliban supposedly agreed to not let that happen. So the concern is that at some point down the line we're gonna end up having to go back there and deal with the problem a second time.
@@joecostantino3684 al-Qaeda leadership were hiding out in Pakistan and there still are many other members still there. Those that want to war again in Afghanistan are the wealthy Western elite who want to profit from extracting Afghanistan' untapped mineral wealth while the middle class and poor do all the fighting and dying. Only a few have benefited from the Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and many other wars. All these wars have helped create more instability across vast regions that allowed various terrorists organizations to find fertile soil to rise.
@@guardianoffire8814 Their training camps that they believe the 9/11 high jackers were trained at were in Afghanistan with the full knowledge of the Taliban at the time. Bin Laden was found in Pakistan yes after he fled there following the American Invasion. I don't doubt many of their leaders are still there but one has to wonder how many have made their way back into Afghanistan now the US forces are gone and the Taliban are back in control. I do realize that the main objective in the beginning was not regime change in Afghanistan, the US simply wanted the camps removed and Bin Laden handed over, had the Taliban done that it's highly unlikely the US would have invaded in the first place.
@@joecostantino3684 the problem is the border that British drew between afghan and pakistan. There's a common region between them through which people often pass through without any checkings. This makes it perfect for people to hide and sneak away to other countries.
@@joecostantino3684 they are not as good as you think they are. The US and NATO are responsible for several war crimes, what al qaeda did can be considered as mere fraction compared to the deaths these crooks did
@@bruhmaxxer They elected their leaders and had legal access to firearms. If they still felt threatened, then I would agree with those pundits who say that western-style democracy doesn't have a place everywhere.
@@news26boomThat's hilarious. They were forced to elect one of two afghan americans as their god(president) who makes laws in accordance to the wishes of the west and US. They were brutally enslaved
Because the need the aid People of Afghanistan are not Taliban even they hate them but they don’t have the power to beat them. The only people that you should not help are Pakistani who bring all these troubles to the world
Than Why your govt blocked Afghan's Reserve money.?? And your govt also provide aid to Israel, who killed almost 135 Palestinians in 7 montn of 2023..!
@@troywalt4834actually he is he is from Hazara ethnic that's why he said bad things about Taliban and thier ethnic is not important infront of Afghan people there are some ethnic who are migrant from our neighbor country's like tajiks from Tajikistan and hazaras from Mongolia so they are not important what are they saying
@@avinch8479We are not brainwashed by our religion infact the War in the Middle East of Afghanistan has nothing to do with religion! It's all the governments fault and the terrorism groups that were and are still till in this point invading and ruining Afghanistan.
"Typically, however, when we hear about mujahideen, the vast majority automatically think of those US-backed Afghans who fought against the Soviet Union when it invaded Afghanistan in 1979". The vast majority of whom? I was born in the USSR, where you'd think people might think that, but no one I know below the age of 60, from the USSR or elsewhere, would associate mujahideen with the American-backed militias. Maybe Bin Laden. Most people would probably associate them with more modern terrorists like Hamas, Daesh, PIJ, a-Shabab, etc. etc.
It is their choice. Instead of trying to change them, let them be. Each country has its own culture and history that imposing western culture on them. It is sovial imperialism.
It literally wasn't their choice. It was literally taken over by terrorist groups. When people say " it's their country or culture ", while you never talked to tg He locals under an authoritarian regimen
Imagine if a society forbids women go to school, then no female doctor right? Even if a woman want to go out of her home, she must be accompanied with male relatives. how are pregnant women can check up their pregnancy? They must be uncomfortable with male doctor.
in Whole of Afghanistan only some residents of Kabul and probably one or two other major cities people are really oppressed that is the main concern. We don't need to care about what is happening to the rest of the Afghan or people. Those people wanted Taliban power and they can enjoy it. It is the small progressive population we should think if they can get out of the Taliban rule and probably can relocate. US failure is unbelievable in this sense and probably Biden's name will be in history for that.
It is disappointing and depressing that in the 21st century there are nations that continue to think and behave in primitive ways to compete for power, status and wealth among themselves and even more depressing that there are nations that would support them. When a ship is sinking and there are only resources and capabilities available to save some of the passengers, the people that showed up to help will always be blamed because they were not able to save everyone. They may also be accused of trying to profit and talk advantage of the disaster for their own benefit.
@@jacksoncronin9540 Indeed! All nations compete for wealth, status and power! Hopefully the top competitors can remain sophisticated and eventually all nations can reach a level of trust and respect where they do not have to spy on each other and can stop building weapons that can wipe out most the life on the planet and from there start working towards eliminating all weapons of war. Not sure if humans will ever be capable of this but, I try to remain optimistic.
@@Danny_6Handford The world's diversity has led to tribal instincts and issues like racism, but increased travel and mixed ethnicities are blurring those artificial lines. It may take a few more generations and a significant event like climate change to unite humanity as one tribe, promoting cooperation over competition. Education is crucial to understanding our species' shortcomings. I believe in humanity and God though so I have faith, I see God as a concept rooted in human psychology due to ancient psychedelic drug use. My message was getting rather long so I used chatgbt to shorten it but hopefully the message is still the same.
@@jacksoncronin9540 You make some good points about humanity uniting as one tribe but I do not think religions or gods will be helpful in achieving this. The idea that there is some type of creator or creators of the universe, the sun, the earth, and life cannot be completely ruled out but it appears to be extremely unlikely and so far there is no evidence for it. I think gods and religions are humanity’s first attempts to try an understand where we came from and to understand the world but all religions are human inventions and regardless of which religion it is all of the stories in their literature are fascinating but they are basically creative fictions or at best exaggerations and distortions of events in the past written by humans that have let their imaginations get the better part of them. Just like all good stories, tales and myths, we can learn something from them. Some of us find comfort in believing the stories in this literature because they provide simple explanations for our existence and why we are here. For others, they provide a purpose for life and they can use the literature to justify their way of life regardless if it is harmful to other humans by claiming that whatever is in the literature is moral. Religious beliefs have also been used to try and dominate and control other humans sometimes for the better but often time for the worse. God has also been used to explain mysterious or unexplained events “god did it”. Some of us also claim that they talk to god which is easy to do. The trick is getting god to talk back to you. In reality, the basis for morality is the understanding that the wellbeing and happiness of others benefits everyone. Morality comes from the human need to socialize, to interact with other humans which is a basic and fundamental human need. Our ability to empathize with others is what encourages us to create moral societies. I do not think that morality can come from some type of authority or creator that lives in the sky. I do not even think we have to love or even like everyone, we just have to understand that the wellbeing and happiness of others benefits everyone and is the basis for morality.
Need to forget about human rights when in comes to extremists. When they are following Islamic law there is no such thing as human rights is does not exist for them, really should stop wasting time and money on trying to change or save them from themselves.
It's not about religion. It's about power. Religion is the tool. Just read some articles on what Evangelical Christians are planning with the US if GOP can claim full power. If you really want to fuck up a country, create a theocracy out of it.
You mean like how the religion in Ukraine and Russia is peaceful? And how the religion of 30 to 40 NATO countries was peaceful when they all invaded one poor country and maintained war in Afghanistan for 20 years against a poor country with advanced technology? Which peaceful religion attacked Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, Libya, Syria, etc?
As someone that has filmed in Afghanistan just a few months before the Taliban takeover, it hurts me to see this country suffer so much. The Taliban are stubborn and not open to reason and have broken every promise that was made during the Doha agreements. The few opposition movements such as the NRF get no support from the West or anywhere for that matter. I feel pessimistic about this.
And what about the corrupt ultra wealthy secular politicians of Afghanistan who loot and pillage and then run away stealing money and live in palaces in dubai and Abu Dhabi and say they didn’t run away but left y]to avoid bloodshed? that you are ok with!
@@davidalvarez9312buddy they also stole tens of millions of dollars and ran away from Afghanistan from the Russian embassy choppers and now live in palaces in duabi and Abu Dhabi laughing at both the USA and Taliban !
I agree that the Taliban seem to be violating the Doha agreement by allowing the TTP (the Pakistani Taliban) to operate from Afghanistan. But that's their only violation of the agreement. Remember that the Doha agreement was a withdrawal agreement, not a peace agreement, or even a cease fire. The Taliban only promised to stop attacking foreign forces - and they did. But they didn't agree to stop attacking the former government, only to participate in talks with it. The Taliban's press people did make optimistic declarations about women's rights and minority participation that they haven't lived up to, but that wasn't part of the Doha agreement.
Afghan been peace as taliban taken over. You see i went there due to work visit. Look how many country gone has suffer because USA trying to 'HELP'. Open your eyes bro. its all about 'OIL'
We (U.S.) Gave the Republic all the resources and training to defend itself over 20 years. in 2 months the army of 300,000 (or so they claim) barely engaged the 50,000 scums. Either they didn't have 300,000 soldiers and the government pocketed the salaries or the soldiers were cowards. Now the women and children suffer. Whatever happens, the Afghans did it to themselves.
All the US did was stalled the natural/organic growth of Afghanistan for 20 years. The US was an occupation force, so the only Afghans they could hope to get on their side were shameless, unscrupulous, corrupt ones. So the outcome of the puppet show was predictable. This crusading for democracy and liberalism made it evident to the common Muslims of the entire world, that the US wants to liberalize Islam (i.e. change Islam).
In the shadows of recent times, we stand witness to the strength of Afghan hearts. Many, like us, left home in search of safety and hope for Afghanistan's renewal. Among struggles, Afghan youth rise unwavering, reflecting the spirit within all of us striving in finance and entrepreneurship. Let's stand with them, sharing their stories and celebrating their strength. In the face of hardships spanning two years, these brave souls press on, painting a path to a brighter future. As we remember August 15th, let's keep alive the resilience that transcends borders and binds us all.
As an Afghan, apart from the harsh rules on women education, not much has changed from previous regime fir the average person. One positive is that Before 100 people a day were being killed, now none of that happens. As for economy, that’s because of sanctions and the 9 billion of Afghan central reserves taken by the US. That 9 billion belongs to Afghans not the Taliban.
I keep seeing people bring this up but the amount of aid a year used to far exceed that right? So I guess I'm saying it's a drop in a hot bucket that would dry up in no time
@@erica.7231 no, the aid is actually a small percentage of the 9 billion that’s given each month so the economy does not collapse and the country becomes a haven for terrorist groups. Simply put they took 9 billion, decided to give 7 billion of it to 9/11 victims, and the 2 billion repackaged as aid given each month.
The funny thing is that while Afghanistan is very very poor and the Taliban are at least in part to blame the decline isn't entirely the result of the Taliban. The country was economically propped up and the economy stimulated as a result of the HUGE US presence. The fact it's not gotten even worse is actually very impressive. In spite of a ban on education and women and other dumb policies the system they setup hasn't utterly collapsed... yet?
@@iamdisgustedI think he means enslaved women are easier to control as members of society. Which is what the Taliban wants. In a way it's kind of smart.
I have a friend here in UK who's from Afghanistan and he says that it's all the same. Now that corruption is less but still nothing for people. He says that there the people are not extremely below the poverty line as in the media. He still doesn't like the Taliban.
Well he should do something about his home country, instead of complaining about the people who're doing things (driving out the invaders, for example).
@@ne0nmancer He should have joined his countrymen in their fight against the invaders, instead of taking refuge in the invading country and being infatuated with the invader's man made laws.
@@hellenmoreira9991 Your understanding of religion is childish it almost has a European middle age vibe. In Islam only metaphysics (the reality inside the visible reality) and morality should be exclusively received from God. Everything else, can be taken from anyone, Muslim or non-Muslim. Do you think, that Muslims ushered in the Golden Age of Science without help form previous works of other civilizations? Muslims took from Greeks, Persians, Indians, and Chinese. Now we're taking from the West and we should try to excel at STEM fields and overtake the West.
These people are the same that are in power in Saudi Arabia but we let them off the hook because they have oil. To pretend that they are uniquely bad is deceptive.
I don’t see a problem. Taliban are running their country in accordance to Sharia, so what’s the big deal??? If you’re Muslim, you should be emigrating there, or has the West’s enlightenment values struck a chord?
If hell exists it would resemble Taliban Afghanistan. The problem is an ethnic group the pashtuns. Extreme traditional and religiously violent. Basically the conservative attitude of keeping to the past and stifling progression ends up in a hellhole like this.
I don’t think it’s a conservative attitude I think it’s religious zealotry. Islam is an abrahamic religion and thus seen as “conservative” but the zealotry seen in mao’s cultural revolution was very much progressive but just as radically violent. both extreme ends of the bell curve are bad
Well it wouldn't be seen as the most conservative form. Taliban was originally a School of thought from Pakistan and practiced islam with reason as they described. Also I mean amish are super conservative but they cause much trouble
@@erica.7231when you practice Islam with reason you become like Taliban or theocratic Iran and Saudi Arabia. However, if you practice Christianity in a conservative, fundamentalist way you become like the Amish. Just shows the radical difference between these two religions.
@@spartacus551I think that's because Amish don't run the country, while the Taliban do. Also because Europeans have undergone age of enlightenment, industrial revolution and post world war peace and economic boom. South American and African Christian countries are nowhere near West Europeans.
@@lookintoit4537 Spot on. Besides, the Enlightenment was a reaction towards the religious wars of sixteenth century. So Christians themselves figured out, that there's something wrong with their religion. We Muslims on the other hand, feel that the disasters befell us (colonialism, economic-technological inferiority, etc.) were because of us not following Islam properly (religious innovations, tolerance of monarchy, stagnation of thought by group-mentality, etc.)
2:37 more specifically, the word "mujahidin" has been used officially by at least 3 movements recently. -The pre-Taliban mouvements in Afghanistan as you said, but also -the revolutionnary movements during the Algerian war against France: FLN and ALN especially; we could perhaps include PCA; but it's an individual honorific title rather than the name of a revolutionnary group -and the "People's mujahidin", a revolutionnary (pretty socialist) group which fought side by side with the Mollah at the beginning of the Iranian revolution. As the new State turned more Islamist the socialist components were excluded and the movement, also called National Council of the Iranian resistance, was dissolved, and its leader came in exile in France.
He is propagating USA propaganda that is all. He is not talking about How taliban completley removed drugs and drugs users while the street of USA are littered with it. He is not talking about there is no corruption the country while USA and EU is full of corruption, he is not talking about how the children abuse has ceased to exist in Afghanistan while USA and Europe has the highest child abuses. He is not talking how the women who used to be beaten by husbands and relatives have ceased to exist because of Taliban , he is not talking about taliban stopped all the theift in the country comapred ot the EU and USA theift is so bad that in most cases now the police do not even arrest people no more, he is not talking about the murders that used to talk place how the TALIBAN stopped that all, he is basically talking about some few issue which he had made into a mountains but it does not remove the fact of the great achievement and the peace the taliban brought into Afghanistan. He says it is the worse country in the world ha ha ha ha.The worse country in the world has no child abuses has no corruption has no kidnapping, has wives beating and attacks on women, it has no theift on the streets , it is so peaceful and at the same time with the little money they are buidling everthing and he ignored that all and above all what he ignored because of jealousy is that it is the NATO WHO INVADED THE COUNTRY NOT USA AND IT IS NATO WHO has sanction these people and yet they have found a way out of it by become a business centre of China and all he is doing spreaing basically pure shit on the internet. He is not talking about why the people the NATO put in authority run away with millions of dollars in their pockets all he does is spread shit on the internet because he is jealousy. In one area alone in Croydan there are so many thieft that it alone with be around as much as 100,000 in just one area. In UK around 100,000 peopla ARE in jails, in UK around 10,000 woman are in jail what he is not talking about is there is no one in the jail in afghanistan apart from may be around 500 people. There are no women arrested or put in prison in Afghanistan that alone is enough to shame the west how the abuse of women goes on from rape to been beaten to been put in prison but of course all that does not matter to him because he is basically a shit spreader.
Orthodox Religion embraces the past, and the Taliban are simply living their best "stone-aged" life. We cannot "force" others to accept the lessons we learned during the enlightenment, the industrial revolution, the equal/civil rights era and/or the information age.
Afghan army before the Taliban.... "Aye, fight and you may die. Run and you’ll live, at least a while. And dying in your beds in poverty many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just one chance to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our freedom, but we'll never give our lives to stop you"
It is the right of every people to implement its law and religion, and the Taliban have the right to implement it. The victor is the one who imposes his word.
The US had no problems entering into agreements with the Taliban when they asked them to help with security at the Kabul airport, since they couldn't control the crowds themselves, and when the Taliban guaranteed not to attack any US soldiers, which they abided by.
The Afghan people are nothing but resilient and willing to fight for what they want. The fact that the Taliban isn’t toppled by the people yet says the people don’t really want another regime.
@@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana I don’t want war, my uncle was a paratrooper involved in Operation Anaconda. He works real estate now, he was shot twice, survived due to his pasgt vest. No one in my family want war. I don’t know if you were smoking when you wrote this, but nothing about what I wrote suggests the Afghan people should fight, just that they made peace with what they have now, and now have to live in it.
The title of the video is 'What's the Talibans new Afghanistan like', yet I'm a third into the video, and you're still rehashing history we already know instead of talking about the subject of the video. This is just padding and it's poor content. If you don't have enough material for a long video on the subject why did you choose it
From an outsider's perspective, especially a western who lives a cushy, comfortable existence with modern amenities, life under the Taliban would probably be unthinkable. But for an average Afghan who probably lived through 20 years of US occupation and all the conundrums associated with it, life under the new Taliban government would probably be just another Tuesday.
Afghans like it that way. They didnt resist taliban takeover when their military was better armed than taliban. We should not help them or intervene if they dont want to live under taliban in poverty they should do something about it. Of course that western way of life is much better but they dont want it so should not force them to it.