If Hillel hadn't passed away I honestly think he would have been as good as John. Obviously John had the edge for being a prodigy but if you look at Hillel’s writing and playing, he was improving exponentially with each release. He was a deeply original and focused guitar player.
@@dowens3781 They had unique songs and definitely a lot of talent in some members. Sometimes the combo is not enough to ignite the spark of fame. To say the band was just awful really is not cutting it, even if it is "pretty much everyone's opinion". I'll never understand this hive-mind mentality and never will.
Abosuletely love Hillels guitar in the chilli peppers. Still, John and them are some kind of magical love unit and though I miss the Hillel funk, John is just some magical force of purity I'll cherish and love forever
Not true. RHCP was technically just a bit of fun on the side in regards to What is This. Slovak and Irons were both absent from the self titled Peppers album in 1984. All four RHCP members had been a part of What is This in its various incarnations, but it wasn't until Slovak tossed in the towel that they focused on the Peppers. This band were actually bigger and more promising than you might think, with their music featured in the movie The Wild Life. The only reason RHCP existed is because Slovak, Flea, and Irons were jamming around with Kiedis some few years into the bands history. So, you have your priorities around the wrong way as to what was really going on.
Alex Paulsen Are you kiddin? Listen the Basslines on RHCP, the contra-rhythms on the drums v/s the ridiculous "minimalistic 4/4 drum" on What is This?. RHCP was since their beginnings a hurricane of power, Punk - Funk-Hendrix pandemonium, one rare gem on the L.A. scene. W.I.T. music precisally was represent the 80's bullshit of the disoriented rock like REO Speedwagon, Lover Boy, Starship, etc.
Roberto Ginsburg What exactly are you saying? I was merely pointing out that RHCP was a jam band some time after What Is This was formed.. it wasn't that What Is This was a parallel project, it was the MAIN FOCUS of most of the members of RHCP at the time. The lack of Slovak and Irons on the first Peppers album makes that point quite clear. Peppers are still better, can't deny that, and I never will deny that, just that What Is This was first, and until 1985 or was their priority.
Alex Paulsen In his autobiography, Kiedis says that Tony Flow and The Miracously Majestic Masters of Mayhem (the orig name of RHCP), was a "one jam band" on Defunkt style, only for save the openin act for The Neighbour Voices at the Rhythm Lounge pub. But the response of the crowd was so good, that they decide make "professional"
Roberto Ginsburg I know that, but What Is This was not a parallel project, it was their main focus for a good amount of time. To be parallel would involve being equal, What is This already had 3 years on the peppers, which eventually did become a much greater commitment. However, this wasn't until around 1985 when Slovak and Irons rejoined.
I'm totally agree with you, i'm Alain's friend, you know always I wonder myself if this band still for more years even now, and RHCP doesnt appear, but music businness rules...
@kajompa Also, what did you actually expect the Chilis to do after Blood Sugar ? You can hear the music evolve over the first 4 albums with hillel then john picked up a very similar sound and they carried on to blood sugar. All that sounding pretty similar yet all unique. Then one hot minute had a darker heavier sound with some great songs, then where should they have gone? Back to Anthony rapping out of tune and john going over the same jams? If things aren't moving forward they're moving back
Hillel's guitar always sounds so stringy and stretchy, almost like a rubber band. Sounds weird to put into words. I've never heard another guitarist with that type of texture/tone.
@kajompa i think people should be less critical as to have a good effect on the art itself. I believe it to be of the person themselves who is critiszing that will better from being less critical. Makes your life change and look more into things and puts you on a level where you aren't held to any sort of stigma created by your opinions because they're fair but strong and less important and it makes you more creative
There is a guy somewhere who started a band in high school with the founders of the Chili Peppers and another dude who played with Them Crooked Vultures. Man i wonder what his life looks like
@@markboland8197 on the 4 guys in this band, 2 funded the Chili Peppers, one played with Them Crooked Vultures, and nothing about the other one. And i wonder what this guy's life looks like.
@Jordan Toulalan it's possible that all the turpentine I drank this morning has caused a bit of brain fog, but I still have no freakin' clue what the hell you are talking about. Are you asking me what size of shoes I wear?
@@markboland8197 He's talking about Chris Hutchinson, bassist for What Is This. Shame he never went on to continue in another band after What Is This. He's incredibly underrated and I love his playing style
@kajompa haha, yeah i think though its important to start somewhere like funk, because if you simply start as metal or rock or pop, there isn't much evolvement because there's not really that many places to go. Nevertheless despite our differences its nice to have a debate with someone on youtube who isn't a 12 year old who screams swear words they dont understand if you dont agree with them. Yeah, i'm only 16, but i have been in a band 5 years and been playing around 11 years how old are you ?
@kajompa yeah i think funk is so broad that the more you get into it you find your own preference and you find your own style. No funk sounds the same its all just random and strange and different so its the perfect place to start and move on from because it can put you in any direction. So long as someone knows the worth of music it doesn't really matter what they like i think, if your making music just to make money you can go get fucked. If you're doing it cos you love it you're worth a damn
@kajompa seriously, if you're going to make such judgments you need to get your facts right. Have you even read Scar tissue? John almost had his arms amputated after taking all those drugs after quitting so he had to learn to play again. There was a hell of a lot of inspiration for Californiacation and By The Way (thought i find by the way a bit poppy for me). If john had lost all that amazing talent now he wouldn't be able to play the old songs like he does still perfectly does.
@kajompa Well i simply think you're wrong and i dont see how anyone can criticize any group so badly since music is art and whether you like it or not, what you interpret it as others with interpret it differently. Considering they weren't using during Blood Sugar and they were most recently using during Californiacation clearly the drug theory can be put to rest. Dave Navarro was actually going to join the band before John but didn't, when john left he wanted to.. so not a supergroup effort
@kajompa How long have you been playing guitar/bass? You seem so pretentious to talk about a band thats guitarist is known as one of the best of all time, the bassist was rated 2nd best of all time by rolling stone, and the singer and drummer are both renown, as if they're just okay, as if you could do better. I think you need a lot more respect for artists becuase you're simply dismissing them.
@kajompa their success isn't in their making money or being popular, every day they make music together they're being successful as the same as every band. Who is your band? Be more open-minded. Its just your opinion, everyone has different opinions, which is why no one opinion is right, and no one opinion is wrong. Now you say your do a bit of journalism i can see that, you write like you're writing a review. As a musician i'd expect you to be less opinionated on other bands though
@kajompa my favourite album is Blood Sugar but how can you call Californiacation and By the way or even Stadium Arcadium Characterless dirge ???? Frusciante's guitar playing is far from Mundane or middle-of-the-road! He changed from the funky twangy playing to a much more melodic rock/funk/blues style. Considering they were all pretty sober while writing and recording Blood Sugar drugs aren't really relevant either. At least be a bit more precise if you're going to be so judgemental
