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What It's Like to "MAKE IT" 

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What does it mean to make it?
0:00 Journey From Innocence to Experience
2:32 Wisdom From Hunter S. Thompson
2:50 Susan & The XL1
5:49 Definition of “Making it”
9:02 Fred’s Birthday Party
15:40 The Neistat Brothers on HBO
17:06 Do we ever really make it?
18:18 Innocence Reflected
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@vanneistat
@vanneistat 2 года назад
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@yeungeddie
@yeungeddie 2 года назад
You're underrated
@NikonFM2n
@NikonFM2n 2 года назад
Hey Van FYI someone is trying to lure me into a scam on your comment section using your logo.
@ryanm4319
@ryanm4319 2 года назад
For me it’s the Success=Relief aspect. Much of “success” is just the calm relaxing simplicity at times of not having to worry about paying bills, and fixing your car, or buying a house. The general relief of making a lucrative amount of money doing what you love is a true game changer to your quality of life and perhaps more importantly stress relief. Great video as always thanks Van
@piccalillipit9211
@piccalillipit9211 2 года назад
I just commented the following: *IN 2015 I HAD MADE IT - I WAS WORTH $6 MILLION* the only problem was I wasn't actually happy... And thats the deal right? You make lots of money and magically your life is like the movies. Only its NOT. Its NOT like the movies and after the novelty wears off it can start to be very very empty and hollow. You see I fell for the western BS that money is everything. I sold Bulgarian and Polish cosmetics to American and British consumers and i could NOT have cared less about them... I was saved from this when I suffered brain damage in a mugging, 18 months later I was homeless and bankrupt on the streets of Bulgaria. I now live a very tiny, very frugal life as an author and I am HAPPY. My morals are twofold: 1) If you are chasing a dream - make damn well sure its YOUR dream and not the one programed into you by society or parents 2) The secret to being rich is to learn to spend less than you earn - spending is infinite ---§--- The only thing I truly LIKED about being wealthy was not having to add up what the shopping cost and not crawl under my own car in the rain to fix it. I came from an incredibly poor family, went to school in black trash bags too poor to afford coats. Adding up the things as you put them in the trolley at the supermarket was just what you did. And that is an unbelievable amount of stress in your life...
@jendrivesajeep6656
@jendrivesajeep6656 2 года назад
@@piccalillipit9211 what incredible insight! I'm sure there were so many more lessons you learnt along the way that you will be forever be grateful for even if that meant going thru tough times, I really like your outlook & appreciate you sharing it. I think if you went a tiny bit deeper, you would find money never meant material things to you - it signaled validation & that you "deserve" those things. (Stress free afternoon, a RESTful nights sleep) Not entitled, because I can tell you are not like that. Deserve as in worthy of those things. I hope that makes sense. Best of luck to you & your future. 😉
@piccalillipit9211
@piccalillipit9211 2 года назад
@@jendrivesajeep6656 - OH thank you so much. You are 100% correct - money was a validator of my existence.
@KingCease
@KingCease 2 года назад
I kinda did that without being financially successful. Just kinda stop “needing” to be successful. Became a nomad lived in my car and traveled where I wanted when I wanted. That actually became my success story. I felt Abundant l. I had the time freedom and mobility to do and go what ever I wanted.
@piccalillipit9211
@piccalillipit9211 2 года назад
@@KingCease - GOOD ON YOU...!!! I write in my upcoming book that living in a van cos you are homeless is degrading and miserable. Living in a van cos you want to is incredibly liberating and wonderful... Perspective and social pressure - its what makes the difference.
@RachaelPadilla
@RachaelPadilla 2 года назад
The tension created by your story of experience gained so beautifully told had me at the edge of my seat. Thank you for sharing your experience with the rest of us.
@Liam_Mac
@Liam_Mac Год назад
Best way to describe it
@tlcrf80mins73
@tlcrf80mins73 2 года назад
This is the 35th year of my career. The two things I've learned are: that everyone is winging it; and that you only have to be half a page in front of everyone else. Relief is still the overwhelming manifestation of success. PS - hat ordered 😁
@TroyShaw
@TroyShaw 2 года назад
I agree. As adults we're still just making it up as we go along. It makes me realize, we really don't know what we're doing and no wonder the world is screwed up.,
@eddiewalker7252
@eddiewalker7252 2 года назад
Hence impostor syndrome.
@smustipher
@smustipher Год назад
Lol...the winging it part is right... I almost panicked when I sat down to plan my year and realized that a lot of my career success just came from me trying a lot of things, some of it flopped terribly, some of it worked out fantastic. I still don't "know" what I'm doing though. Keeps me humble and hungry.
@GarryTan
@GarryTan 2 года назад
Damn I remember all of this in my own career. Credit card debt and thinking you’re going to make it, not making it, and then finally actually getting there.
@cryptoinvestearn
@cryptoinvestearn 9 месяцев назад
I'm at the not making it right now, not at the finally getting there stage yet, but I know the work will get me there. My time will come
@benmiller6687
@benmiller6687 2 года назад
The thing that always strikes me while watching this channel is how cool it must be to have all this footage of your life, to be able to reflect on it, and help others. Really good one this week man.
@dhariri
@dhariri 2 года назад
This was the best episode that you have made so far. It was intensely personal, and yet, relatable to anyone pursuing their art. Thank you, Van.
@cocothemagnificent
@cocothemagnificent 2 года назад
A 19 minute video the lord has blessed us this Saturday
@Xeschel
@Xeschel 2 года назад
You’re probably in different time zone cuz I just got super stressed that I only have one day of weekend left
@nicholasrokitka380
@nicholasrokitka380 2 года назад
Man alive Van, you can tell a story, that takes something relatively ordinary and pull out all the tension and learning points. Thank you for what you do.
@de_cokamer
@de_cokamer 2 года назад
“Sometimes success is relief”, what a beautiful sentence. Thank you Van.
@gardenfork
@gardenfork 2 года назад
Same here Van. My first paid gig was a video for City Harvest’s annual fundraiser banquet in NYC, we shot on an Arri 3 with Ilford B/W . My ad agency friends had vouched for me. We shot nights for 3 days. 3 person crew. I didn’t sleep. THAT was an experience. - Eric.
@stevenlippold
@stevenlippold 2 года назад
repeating the question 3 times in the first 2ish minutes really turned my innocent journey into an experienced one...
@peterjones5303
@peterjones5303 2 года назад
Love! "Innocence to Experience" = "Fantasy to Reality". PERFECT! I have grandchildren now ( I'm 72) and know exactly what you mean- I also "catch a glimpse" of "innocence/fantasy". Thank you.
@cornfarmer69
@cornfarmer69 2 года назад
This is why I’m here. That was f-ing amazing Van. I love when you go back in time. More of this please :D bless you sir
@Neontrifle
@Neontrifle 2 года назад
My sentiments exactly, I can't understand why he hasn't got 10 times the subscribers he has.
@rangeroadmoto
@rangeroadmoto 2 года назад
Goosebumps, tension, and things I’ve thought but never explained. This was really beautiful, thank you.
@SANTINIIO
@SANTINIIO 2 года назад
Why was I so nervous for something that didn't happen to me 20 years ago?! Great storytelling as always!
@DangStrang3r
@DangStrang3r 10 месяцев назад
Mirror neurons. 😉
@CarcinogenSDA
@CarcinogenSDA 2 года назад
This one's a rewatch because I feel like there's a lot to learn from this. Contemporary human culture tends to abstract success an overdramatized thing that happens instantly as a booming moment. But it all makes sense, going back to one of your other videos: your reward for good work is more work. The scale of what you do can grow significantly, but you never just "make it". I feel like "making it" is something that outsiders say about something looking in as part of the fantasy, and one can probably only say they were successful at the end of their career. "Successful" in the current tense can only mean holding the house up. "Success = Relief" is a good analogy.
@herrinmatt
@herrinmatt 2 года назад
I love the way you just drop in an emotional thing at the end. Makes my eyes well up. The whole video is filled with emotion but the last bit just gets you. Great work as always, Van.
@RyanBCreative
@RyanBCreative 2 года назад
"Sometimes success is merely Relief." That statement holds true for so many people's professions. Wow-what a great way to break that down
@jamesf4899
@jamesf4899 2 года назад
OMG, this is the story of "my" life! Well said and as usual, a creative masterpiece!
@miguelcorderos
@miguelcorderos 2 года назад
I absolutely LOVE the way you told this story and how this channel is developing. Thank you from the Netherlands!
@mikeideas3919
@mikeideas3919 2 года назад
Dang Van, that narrative was great, you had me SWEATING for you boys in that ballroom. That sense of relief definitely seems like the end goal/ side effect of making it. I’ve found that the “when I get this” “then I’ll feel this” may be my the most taunting illusion for me at times. Because it compounds (more expensive camera, tool, etc) I’ve been finding the key is lifting myself up through gratitude, feeling like I’ve already “made it”. After all i’m watching incredible RU-vid content in the palm of my hands. tapping (quite literally with EFT) into that feeling of anxiety/ stress and transmuting it into relief/ peace. I try to ask myself if the external needs to change in order for me to feel that peace. Van, I think you speak to this at the end, looking at the beauty around you, you tap into that innocence, the dream. Seeing that it’s already there in front of you. You made it!!:) TLDR : look into EFT tapping, it’s wild lol
@iMusicShuffle
@iMusicShuffle 2 года назад
This was an amazing journey you took us on. It made me understand how your videos are so damn good. You’ve experienced a lot success or relief as you like to say. The music was amazing to capture those big moments too. Such an amazing story, such an amazing life you’ve lived and I think it is great that you may still experience or at very least witness innocences again with your boy.
@laserdummy
@laserdummy 2 года назад
This one hits home so much. Thanks for the beautiful work, Van.
@Jacob-fr8le
@Jacob-fr8le Год назад
Watching your videos has been a breath of fresh air, creatively. Appreciate you.
@ivan_valerian
@ivan_valerian Год назад
This spirited man has a whole garage full of experience and we are here to listen to it all. Thank you for sharing Van
@MaCoffeesOn
@MaCoffeesOn 2 года назад
I love, absolutely LOVE, the way Van tells a story. I'm captivated each and every second of your videos.
@shadyhamam
@shadyhamam 2 года назад
This one hit hard, Thank you for providing such content, I believe I'm right there right now in my life, in that moment of converting from innocence to experience, and it hurts a lot.
@coops4x4
@coops4x4 2 года назад
Thank you Van. This is my favourite video of yours I’ve seen so far. Keep up the great work 👏
@vincebalsamo
@vincebalsamo Год назад
Thank you for making this Van!
@ioan.panaite
@ioan.panaite 2 года назад
Great content! Greetings from Romania!
@carltonrose5728
@carltonrose5728 2 года назад
Struggling with life and direction at 25 years old gets easier and easier with every story you share. Finding gratitude with every perspective that you allow to expand my perspective further thanks van
@niftyfiftyphoto
@niftyfiftyphoto 2 года назад
It's always profound to look back and find the single moments that lead to where we are today. In many cases those moments came through years of hard work, dedication, and luck, but also in many cases, they are single moments in time that cemented those years.
@markb.1259
@markb.1259 2 года назад
Thank you for sharing parts of your journey! Good stuff!
@HabanosChris
@HabanosChris 2 года назад
Love this one, so insightful & fascinating. Love the notion of fantasy of success vs reality.
@nunorpg
@nunorpg 2 года назад
great video as always! the storytelling is so good it glues you to the screen
@topgamer7
@topgamer7 11 месяцев назад
This video embodies what I find the tragedy of life. I seek the innocence, the passion, the dream. I dread the thought that it is a young mans opportunity, lost to time, apathy and safety.
@wavetro
@wavetro 2 года назад
you're my favorite youtuber right now. amazing insight
@plhrph1
@plhrph1 2 года назад
Fantastic introspective stuff. I've found the ability to live in the moment while also being able to analyze the moment clearly is elusive and rare.
@natebaird
@natebaird 2 года назад
This is very relatable. For me, in the journey to finding 'success', whenever I find it I'm just terrified of losing it. Losing it becomes my worse nightmare. In the past year, I 'lost' some success that I had found but it ended up becoming one of the best things that has ever happened to me :) Here's to the journey and thanks for making this video and telling your story so eloquently, Van.
@norellana
@norellana Год назад
Hi Van ! Thanks for creating all of this. Thanks to the Spirited Man! This episode really touch my heart ❤ thanks for sharing.
@danielalvarez450
@danielalvarez450 Год назад
Cheers for the amazing content Van!! Thank you :)
@michaelmacminn3407
@michaelmacminn3407 2 года назад
I love the candle in the bath scene! So creative and a beautiful finish to yet another well told story.
@cellogeye121
@cellogeye121 2 года назад
That quote about how success is sometimes just relief really resonated with me. It's a feeling I've felt many times before, but that I haven't been able to fully describe until I watched this video. As a creative, the success of finishing a project has never felt like "success" in the traditional sense. It has always felt much more like relief. Thank you for making this video and doing what you do.
@masonstruckadventure9368
@masonstruckadventure9368 Год назад
I'm deeply moved by your innocents and that right there my friend is success! Beautiful. Thank you for sharing
@Sadsoft
@Sadsoft 2 года назад
This is great! Thanks I had one experience not anywhere near the value of this and it turned me in to an anxious control freak when ever I play a show. What ever I can do to make sure I don’t fail on stage I grasp so tightly to that it gives me a rush on stage then a crash of mental destruction after the show even if nothing went wrong
@RSHKMS
@RSHKMS 2 года назад
this is your best video so far. so far. I know you're going hella places but, this is it. this is great and it's the piece we were missing in KNOWING you. brilliant!
@Neontrifle
@Neontrifle 2 года назад
Thanks Van, I love your videos, you deserve a lot more for the effort you put in, I'm sure it will come soon.
@Walkie.NoTalkie
@Walkie.NoTalkie Год назад
I discovered your channel today and this thumbnail and title spoke to me. The content was fantastic and it felt like it’s a lesson I should pay for. Thank you for delivering videos like these, Thank you casey for introducing me to your brother on an also great video and thank you RU-vid for hosting you both. I cannot afford to pay for this lesson yet, but when i do, I will.
@sam_althaus
@sam_althaus 2 года назад
Incredible as always. You may not be living like a dentist these days but you sure have touched a lot of peoples lives with your work. I think in an ideal world, that’s what “making it” should be.
@thetroothhurtz
@thetroothhurtz 2 года назад
Awesome vid brother
@acesontilt77
@acesontilt77 2 года назад
I find you so completely relatable. Listening to life's adventures through your videos has made me realize a lot about my own innocence. I think that innocence is meant for the young and not the old. We all were once happy with the simplest of things but now the only things that make us happy seem to be our innocent children. Please keep putting this real content out in hopes that it catches like wildfire. Thank you and God bless.
@davidcrouch3226
@davidcrouch3226 2 года назад
For me, parenthood was the ultimate manifestation of the innocence - experience continuum. I thought it was was going to be the end of my life when really it was just the beginning. Powerful story telly this week. Well done.
@TimothymakeupsDitzler
@TimothymakeupsDitzler 2 года назад
Man. Amazing work. What a gift this channel is. Thanks Van
@SoloAlfonso
@SoloAlfonso 2 года назад
Always creating great films!! Thanks
@siguy715
@siguy715 2 года назад
So we're just not going to talk about how he keeps tapping those buttons on his desk? It's the only thing I could look at.
@MattBones311
@MattBones311 2 года назад
Yeah lol anyone know what that was? Has he mentioned it in other videos
@RyanFrechettePokerVlog
@RyanFrechettePokerVlog 2 года назад
I want to know, I have to guess it’s him marking certain sections of the recording. Van?
@stanleyfamUK
@stanleyfamUK 2 года назад
Van you are an abstract artist of immense calibre, using storytelling as your canvas. The angles you come from and the strokes you paint with visuals, sounds and narrative are just wow. Enriching. Thank you for another. J
@AlexanderRodriguez-ni4kt
@AlexanderRodriguez-ni4kt 2 года назад
I got to say, I’ve dabbed watching your other videos, but this one really captivated me, had me and wouldn’t let go, I loved it.
@connectionism3754
@connectionism3754 2 года назад
For me definitely one of the best videos you’ve made/I’ve seen. 👏
@bobfranklin2121
@bobfranklin2121 2 года назад
what a tense story, great video
@miscibi
@miscibi 10 месяцев назад
thank you for existing. this is great. i don't often comment on youtube
@Letterjay
@Letterjay 2 года назад
This video just changed my outlook on everything for me when it comes to my favorite thing ever, making films.
@brettripley6129
@brettripley6129 2 года назад
Brilliant, Van. Thank you.
@tanettemeditationsforwellb8866
@tanettemeditationsforwellb8866 2 года назад
Thank you Spirited Man .... sending you droplets of amazingness to help fill your cup for the next adventure
@arcborn
@arcborn 2 года назад
Good one! Great one!
@dixsept
@dixsept 2 года назад
Really love your videos man, thanks for blessing us with them :)
@polymathematics_
@polymathematics_ 2 года назад
Fantastic. Thanks Van.
@teslafudge1585
@teslafudge1585 2 года назад
Many of your videos create important experiences. I think about these on repeat in galleries.
@ngonzale3
@ngonzale3 2 года назад
“Sometimes success is merely relief.” Incredibly done, Sir.
@oatmeal3269
@oatmeal3269 2 года назад
The transition from naivete to understanding is the development of wisdom. There is no one wisdom that will help you understand every situation. Lord give me the strength to change the things I can, the tranquility to accept the things I cannot, and the wisdom to know the difference.
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@text-107 2 года назад
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@matt_freund
@matt_freund 2 года назад
Now I‘m interested what the buttons on his desk are
@wade2361
@wade2361 2 года назад
Same. He's done it in previous videos too.
@coscorrodrift
@coscorrodrift 2 года назад
fr I think it's a Nintendo Switch joycon but I cannot fathom why he would be using one of those to control anything. I assume it's for some kind of Teleprompter, or maybe to signal where to cut in clips
@Myfellonmebadgirls
@Myfellonmebadgirls Год назад
I think he likes this part the next. Susan
@pheasantpluck
@pheasantpluck Год назад
@@coscorrodrift had the two exact same thoughts on what it could be used for...nice one thought partner :)
@beachedwhale9497
@beachedwhale9497 10 месяцев назад
Slide changer for his notes? Seems like he presses it in between thoughts and sentences.
@icekura
@icekura 2 года назад
thank you spirited man!
@jeannine1991
@jeannine1991 2 года назад
What a great video. Thank you for sharing your stories and a huge shout out to the Susans of the world. 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
@JewiMacca
@JewiMacca 2 года назад
I admit i almost turned the video off because I wasn't sure i was ready for it, but I'm glad i stuck with it. What a fantastic build up and story. Thanks for sharing and constantly planting seeds of wisdom in our minds.
@iQuasar
@iQuasar 2 года назад
Thank You!
@sebaskochi
@sebaskochi 2 года назад
loved this one, van
@aspire5544
@aspire5544 2 года назад
Such a great video. As a Filmmaker on the verge to professionalism, I learnd alot from this Video. The Video feels like a compas for the life as a Filmmaker (or any other profession). I find myselfe between the second and third story. And sucses was always an important thing for me. So seeing someone reflecting on his path, feels empowering and humbeling to me. Thanks Van
@OddsandSods26
@OddsandSods26 2 года назад
That was excellent. Thank you.
@allenscottrogers5106
@allenscottrogers5106 Год назад
Thank you Van.
@AZisk
@AZisk 2 года назад
Unbelievably good storytelling.
@LukaDukic
@LukaDukic 2 года назад
wow, what a video, never heard anyone summed up life of a regular guy trying to make it better then you, and the kid part, I totally relate to that, great job!
@sadmansakib2266
@sadmansakib2266 2 года назад
i got these goosebumps at the very end of video man!
@fredkhonje2444
@fredkhonje2444 11 месяцев назад
Excellent story telling. That was intense! Great lessons too. Thanks for making this video.
@matanshtepel1230
@matanshtepel1230 Год назад
This video is amazing.
@jorgeandrade2593
@jorgeandrade2593 2 года назад
what a great video, van
@RobertMarlie
@RobertMarlie 2 года назад
just such an eye opening and insightful video. It really made me think about myself. Thanks Van
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@text-107 2 года назад
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@chinchorrero
@chinchorrero 2 года назад
Loved the video Van!
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@arieveloo9808
@arieveloo9808 2 года назад
Great video! Thanks!!
@fiveacrespread3756
@fiveacrespread3756 2 года назад
Col, Van. I think this hits the spot - right in the middle. Nicely said.
@mizeadventure9438
@mizeadventure9438 2 года назад
another lavish video! WELL DONE! love it
@text-107
@text-107 2 года назад
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@ryaneasterling8945
@ryaneasterling8945 2 года назад
I know you get hundreds of comments on every video, but I hope you know how touching stories like these can be when shared with such craft, tact, and honesty. Your channel is philosophical in a way that almost nothing I've experienced in the modern day has been. Your videos make me stop, think, and appreciate - how could we ask for anything more? Thanks, Van.
@lex7799
@lex7799 2 года назад
I’ll be thinking about this for quite some time. Thank you.
@text-107
@text-107 2 года назад
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@Mahsajoyce
@Mahsajoyce 2 года назад
I loved this video so much. So true that sometimes success means relief. 👏🏼
@PaulaHeartland
@PaulaHeartland 2 года назад
Beautiful teaching telling, experienced telling of your creative life. All the way to tears now wetting my cheeks. Beautiful. I feel met here where I am today. Thank you ❤️
@PaulaHeartland
@PaulaHeartland 2 года назад
(My breath catches every time I see your boy in the bath turn his head away from the flame, every time, even though I know his hair doesn't catch fire.)
@SticksAandstonesBozo
@SticksAandstonesBozo Год назад
Holy shit what’s it like to meet people who see your passions and supporting you / helping you ?? I truly can’t comprehend it.
@GrowthGuided
@GrowthGuided 2 года назад
You’re good man. Praise God for keeping you sober so you and continue to share the gift he gave you with the world.
@text-107
@text-107 2 года назад
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@garrisonhoffbeck1968
@garrisonhoffbeck1968 2 года назад
Holy shit, Van you just gave me an idea. Thank you.
@gauravsood753
@gauravsood753 2 года назад
My little boy is 6 months old now, this is very relatable. Gotta keep going 🙌
@olsonspeed
@olsonspeed 2 года назад
Van, I completely agree with your videos message . Looking back there were multiple moments in my experience that the difference between success and failure, life and death, were separated by the thinnest of margins.
@KelvinMedinathezarkman
@KelvinMedinathezarkman 2 года назад
This fulfilled man is amazed with how this spirited man articulated "Innocence" and "experience" through his examples I would say that innocence to make it would be the idea of achieving something not fully understanding what it's like to actually undergo the process of becoming while experience is the becoming "actualized" wherein you fully understand and know what it takes to achieve. An amazing video with a little bit of Phenomenology right there Van, my philosophical muscles were pumped by this video!
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