What Jesus ACTUALLY meant when He Renamed SIMON | The Chosen Season 4 Episode 2 DEEP DIVE 

I can see so clearly, that (in the Chosen) Simon went through such a painful time losing a child, came back to Jesus asking not to be let go, realising hls need for Jesus, experiencing His mighty power. Of course it's so right for Simon to make this heartfelt confession. Shahar's expression was priceless and beautiful!❤😊

The Apostolic churches have so many historical records regarding Apostolic Succession from St. Peter himself, who is really the first pope. And also another disciples. I'd rather listen and believe on the Apostles and the early church fathers who closest to them instead of modern Christianity who deny and rejected the early church fathers.

Remember back in a season one walk and talk, Jesus told Peter he didn't need his leadership capabilities then because Jesus was still here. Once Jesus was gone, Peter would take on the leadership role.

If you want to look at Peter's role, which Jesus is telling Peter here, look in the book of Acts. What do keys do? They open the door! Who preached the first sermon on the day of Pentecost? That was the first day of the week. It was the beginning of the church. But... that was only Jews! Even Peter would not understand until later that the church was for ALL! And who did Jesus use to open the door for the Gentiles? Yep, Peter again brought the gospel to the house of Cornelius! So, Peter was truly given the keys to the kingdom! Very cool!!

Its not petra, it is not peter, it is not Petros. It is Kephas and in Aramaic it mean rock❤

[Former Protestant] I wanted to see and address this video because there is a claim in a more recent video that people were mad about the things stated in this video. This is my understanding of what is happening: "And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." [Matthew 16:18] Of course, the distinction being made here between the two (Petros and petra) by the video would be irrelevant since it wouldn't change the fact that He (Jesus) would still be addressing St. Peter as foundational to His Church (small rock or otherwise). The video further emphasizes this distinction by bringing up pictures of what we would imagine the difference of Petros and petra to be. This again, would be irrelevant as Christ himself says you need only small faith to do big things [Matthew 17:20]. The size of the rock would be irrelevant (and Jesus makes no emphasis of it) to the establishing of His Church. Only that He is calling out St. Peter alone in specific for this specific moment. There is also a claim that things would have been said differently if it was meant differently. But no example was given. As a Spanish speaker, I can definitely say that in other languages, words can change for the same object in the same sentence. This would be understanding coming from an English-speaker centered mindset. The video goes on to say that Jesus is not the rock/Church. But then why would scripture mention a rock at all if neither St. Peter nor Jesus are the foundational rocks of the Church? The video expresses that it would be St. Peter's confession of faith that would be the foundational rock but then that just seems like a roundabout way of trying not to say St. Peter is the rock. Naturally, if his confession is important, then so is he who made the confession. It is a distinction without a difference. If it is just anyone's faith, then he (St. Peter) would not have been elevated in the first place. The next claim is that God the father gave this knowledge to St. Peter which is absolutely true [Matthew 16:17]. But this doesn't mean he (St. Peter) had to make the confession. Just like the video mentions, the demons know who God and Christ is but do not do the same confession of faith [James 2:19]. Action (or cooperation with God's grace if you will) is still required to move forward with the gifts God gives. "Peter is not the foundation of what the Church is built on. That could never be the case." I'm not sure where this is coming from. The Lord has used so many people throughout history to accomplish His ends and there's no reason to doubt that He could not use anyone He wishes to carry out His will. If merely being a sinner was an automatic disqualification for doing Godly things, then we would not have scripture to begin with. Saying God is incapable of using a human being for His purpose seems to be quite limiting of God. Overall, I do wish to be as charitable as possible. I was curious if people were really upset but I do not think people are mad. Simply put, there are tons of flaws in logic and fallacies at play here. The video has many claims and statements of speculation of what is meant by the word Petros and its significance. But no substantive evidence is given to support these particularly subjective interpretations of scripture. Mostly, these claims seem to aim to have "plausible deniability" of the papal system or something like it. It is just personal interpretation [Proverbs 3:5-6]. To find the original meaning to this, you'd need the one holy Church that Jesus established and gave authority to in order to come close to properly answering this question. And for that, a study of Church history would be necessary.

I'm sorry, I usually love your deep dives. However the mental gymnastics you go through to try to disprove that Peter was the foundation of the church lacks common sense. It is clear from the Aramaic translation of the Rock, PLUS, the wealth of other evidence in the Bible that Peter was obviously the leader of the apostles. It looks like the only reason you and other protestants don't want to believe it because it's too "Catholic."

Brant Pitre and Steve Ray go in depth and talk about the Jewish roots/meaning of the keys the chair, the rock. The neverending debates often overlooks the Jewish lens. They each have books on it but seveal good videos of their lectures are on You Tube as well. Pitre has a PhD and has studied these things in depth, going back to the Jewish roots.

Peter is the ROCK, in the sense/sense’s, that GOD revealed the truth and gave him the clarity of belief in Jesus, the faith. ALSO, in my faith, the earthly founder of the church, and the compassionate believer. The gatekeeper. Metaphorically the Foundation. Jesus is the actual founder, foundation, the ONE who we FOLLOW. Jesus is the CHRIST.

The name Peter is directly from Greek Πέτρος, Petros (an invented, masculine form of Greek petra, the word for "rock" or "stone"), which itself was a translation of Aramaic Kefa ("stone, rock"), the new name Jesus gave to apostle Simon Bar-Jona. So yes ...Jesus meant Peter personally 😂

It'd be easier to just take what Jesus said that Peter is the Rock as what it is. The Protestant mental gymnastics and self-denial is really a bit much.

The Mormon church teaches or taught that upon " this rock I will build my church." Previous to this statement Christ talks about the revelation that Peter received. That he knows Jesus is the Christ because the Father revealed it to Simon or Peter as he is now called. It is about receiving revelation that the church will be built upon. Just sharing....

Peter is the foundation Jesus, would build his Church on: He is the one that would lead the church from the beginning . Also, Jesus, gave the keys of His Kingdom to only one individual and that was Peter.

This scene with Jonathan and Shahar was so moving to me. Their delivery us amazing!! I'm so glad Dallas put this scene in.

I’ve always believed that the rock is revelation. Right before he names Peter he says that it’s not flesh that has made this known to you, but it is my father. I think it is the revelation.

I've been waiting for these season 4 videos for a awhile! Cant wait to see more!

Sometimes, protestants just don't wanna see the full picture.

The gospels are clear that Jesus renamed Simon "Rock" and upon this rock, I will be my church. Everything you are saying is assumption. The truth is that the church Peter built in Rome became the center of Christianity and the Christian movement survived because of that. You are denying Christ's words, which are backed up by history. Jesus words about building his church on Peter is exactly what happened. To deny that is to deny what Jesus actually said and what actually happened.

Brandon, even MATTHEW in this episode recognized Peter as being tapped as a leader who possesses the Keys To The Kingom with Jesus at the fireside chat. Arguing about a rock and a pebble is honestly comical.😅

Makes sense. On this "faith" (revelation) I will build my Church.

That cut to Judas was strategic. He got cut by Jesus' words, but didn't realize he was bleeding!

I saw your show by accident after another Chosen reflection moment. I'm so glad this 'accident' happened! And YES, I subscribed.

I thought the same about the shaman and noticed something that I’m wondering if it’s significant. Right at the scene with the shaman, just before they cut away, an assistant hands the shaman his staff. Cut to Jesus who is walking with his staff, turns, and then hands it to Judas, who had previously been there. I’ve learned there’s little that’s done randomly in the show.

Your knowledge of the original land / surroundings and context with the Scripture is marvelous. So glad I found your channel.

Think about this…. Earlier in matthew during christ’s temptation, satan tells christ to turn stones into bread. He didnt say petros. He used the word lithoi or lithos (plural) peter means the rock. Case closed…. If you still arent convinced check out jimmy akin’s debate where he breaks down the greek word for word. Another point that is rarely talked about is the word kai. Jesus says kai which means “upon this” if he meant a different rock the proper greek word would be alla So either peter is the rock or matthew’s grammar just fell to pieces in chapter 16. I could literally go on and on but it seems my apostolic brothers have already pointed multiple arguments. Most protestants accept peter’s leadership role they just say we take it too far. Fair play but to deny it altogether is crazy. For some old testament typology look into the Isiah 22 Eliakim argument. Basically david had 12 ministers and only the steward was given the keys to the kingdom. He is given authority to bind and loose, the keys were huge btw. History and language are key to understanding our faith so catholics and my orthodox brothers do a lot of studying on this stuff. The information is solid and easy to find

For more on the Jewish background for this passage, I would recommend reading Isaiah chapter 22 verses 15 through 25. We see startlingly parallel wording when it comes to the installation of a royal Prime Minister in service to the dynasty of David’s family. And I say parallel specifically to the passage in Matthew 16.

I find it entertaining and distressing at the same time, when modern preachers try to explain scripture and like Martin Luther, bend it to fit what they want it to mean. The early church fathers, the ones who either knew and heard Jesus preach, or knew and heard the Apostles preach, all had an understanding of what Jesus meant. They all accepted that Jesus chose Peter as the one to lead his church when he was gone. Unfortunately, to accept this, and to accept many of the sacred traditions of the original church founders, would be to admit that the Catholic church is the one true and universal church founded by Jesus. So rather than accept this, and accept the teachings of the people who were there at the beginning, too many are willing to follow preachers who claim to know better than the Apostles what it is that Jesus meant.

The distinction of meaning between Petros and Petra did not exist in the 1st century, it was completely out of use, both meant "Rock" - You cannot call a man "Petra", for it is a feminine, the masculine is "Petros". None of that matters though, because Christ called Simon "Cephas" (John 1:42) which only means "Rock", echoing Daniel 2, it doesn't have much to do with Mt Hermon except as a secondary meaning, constrasting the true Rock of Peter with the false Rock of Mt Hermon - this is where the late Dr. Heiser was just simply wrong. The Rock is the confession, sure, however, Peter is called to personify this confession in his office as the keeper of the Keys (Thus his name means a mission) - Isaiah 22, and therefore, it is accurate to state the Church is built upon Peter, for he is called to be the foundation rock of the new temple (which is the Body of Christ). The Chosen sadly missed out on almost all of this because they didn't include Daniel 2 nor an Isaiah 22 reference - their understanding of what the Keys of the Kingdom is was also totally wrong - only Peter was given the Keys, as there is only one Master of the Palace in the Davidic Kingdom, whose title may I add was "Father" which is the meaning of the current title "Pope".

Judas is like a petulant child. This will be the catalyst for his turning away and living for his own selfish desires. Luke does a great job of portraying his conflicted thoughts.

Amazing you didn’t pull a muscle with this stretch

although written in greek they spoke Aramaic. Only one one word for rock.

Also loved the explanation of the explanation of the Mesiah and told the disciples but charged them to keep it silent. Another great scene by Dallas and writers. ❤❤❤

Thank you for adding to my understanding of Matthew 16:18. Regardless of how someone interprets “petra”and “petros”, this verse shows just how powerfully complex the Word of God really is.

I absolutely agree that they would not have been right up close and personal at those pagan, demonic temples. But, I'm "used to different" with The Chosen 😂

Thank these videos are great 🎉❤

There he is! To be fair was on chosen app yesterday watching the rest of the extras I either missed or it got too late for. But now the Snipe to break it down even more!

As a catholic I fully support Dallas interpretation. I knew this one was going to be spicy, as the series will go on, the different theologies will start to clash. Funny that Dallas is not even catholic However, Jesus gave the keys to Peter not to all of the apostles, and that was a mistake Dallas made

Great video. Please continue to speak about the music it is such an important part.

I much, much, more prefer the original Philip- Yoshi Barrigas! The *new Philip is so monotonous with little to no emotion, to me, kind of bland…

Peter received the personal revelation from the Spirit that Jesus is the Christ. That's the Petra.

The Church is built on Him. Remember, He tells us to build our house on Him. He is the one we are to rely on for everything. I believe that Peter was the leader of the ministry. James became the leader of the church in Jerusalem. The point I am trying to make is that of the apostles, many had special places of leadership. Jesus gives us all we need and puts us where He needs us (if we will be obedient). I like how Jesus always reminds us that we must do things on His timetable. Also something we need to remember. I love that we can discuss this.

"Death has no power..." Thank You, Jesus!. "Because I live, you also will live" HALLELUJAH! What great writing foreshadowing what we've seen in the trailers of Jesus overcoming death on Lazarus' behalf!!!

Peter was chosen to be the one to start the church.

Something else I noticed about Judas. His eyes look very sunken and dark, he looks haggard. I’m thinking it’s intentional, but not sure the significance.

Isn't Jesus the cornetstone of Church. His teachering are the foundation of the His Church.

Because of Peter's statement of faith, when he later denies knowing Jesus, many Jews today believe that he is the betrayer. Judas was simply misguided in his own faith about what he expected the Messiah to be and do. But Peter knew and loved Jesus and then denied Him. Major betrayal.

Thank you Brandon, you have explained this perfectly, that’s exactly what Jesus meant when he said those words. xx🙏

Regarding Jesus not being the church ... we are told He is the head of the body ... which is the Church. ??

Brandon, good post and I understand what your thought process is. My question is why you don't take a deeper dive into Matthew 16:19. In this Jesus says "YOU" multiple times to Peter about the keys to heaven and what he binds on earth will be bound in heaven. Why can't it be both- the confession of the statement that Jesus is the Christ and Jesus affirming that Peter be a leader of the church, which Peter was, there is no denying that, regardless of whatever denomination you are.

Elsewhere in the Bible, Jesus Christ is also referred to as the cornerstone or "capstone which the builders rejected" and the "foundation".

Hate to tell this man, but Jesus is called the Rock all throughout the old and new testament. Jesus is the foundation Rock, the cornerstone, according to Scripture. Please read the scriptures. Don't just take someone's word for it. God reveals Himself to each of us through His Holy Word. That's the guaranteed way to find Him. Read His love letter to humanity that we call the Bible.

I think The Chosen addressed your concern for having Jesus and His disciples so up close and personal to 'the gates of hell' when 'Jesus' points out how just like The Baptizer His disciples should not be afraid to be in dark places, so they can be the light evrywhere they went

I missed your livestream last night. Thank you so much for explaining the Peter/Rock thing! It makes more sense to me, now. ❤️

For those wondering, this has been contested for two thousand years and is not this simply broken down. We need to be more charitable with eachother, we have a common enemy.

Folks, please do not confuse the chosen show with scripture. It is a wonderful show that brings alive the times of the Bible, but it does have scriptural errors at times. Read your own Bible and ask the Holy Spirit to help you understand and go back into the original languages. It’s very easy nowadays with Electronic apps that you can get that have the original languages. They are called interlinear Bibles. Yeshua Jesus is the rock. He is the cornerstone

This is where your authentication and knowledge on this interpretation....author... or channel owner...is needed...

I completely agree with your interpretation of the Rock in fact I wrote an article about this months ago that says it in the same way you did

See, this is what I keep telling Peters who claim to be Rocks - Nah mate - you are a stone - I am the ROCK!!! I am PetrA not Peter🤣

Wonderful exegesis on the Peter statement. This is what we also teach at our church. The rock is not Peter upon which the church is built, but upon the declaration that Jesus is the Son of God.

I'm sure that Peter's forgiveness of Matthew was him being the rock, the first deciple of Jesus to start to get it, the mind set of being a follower of Christ.

Surprise surprise. Protestant not understanding Church teaching and constantly saying 'I think what Jesus meant...' thus submitting to his own authority rather than the authority of the Church that Christ established.

Thanks!

I think you nailed that exactly right! Well done!

To understand Peter's role, it's important to understand that the role of the Pope now, is not the way that role was early on. So if you say that Peter didn't hold the role as the Papacy is understood in modern times, you're correct. However, it's not that simple. Peter is not being set up over and above the other apostles but as a leader and protector, someone who keeps the group together and on the right path. In Eastern Orthodoxy this is called the Ecumenical Patriarch. He is first among equals. Jesus said "Whoever is first among you, let him be your servant." It's not a position of power and prestige that others don't have, it's a responsibility that Peter has to all of them from this point, and especially following the ascension and Pentecost. All the of the Apostles will recieve the priesthood, and the authority to preach and act on God's authority, to bind and loose, heal, ect, just like we saw in Season 3 and as they go out into the world and bring many people in and set up local congregations, they will maintain a relationship with these early Christian communities as a guiding authority for them. We see this in the New Testament, but who keeps all of them straight? Initially, it's Peter.

If Jesus meant that the rock on which the church would be built was Peter, the other apostles didn’t come away with that understanding because they soon after are arguing about who is the greatest among them. That is telling. In Ephesians chapter 2:19-20, Paul says God’s people are members of his household “built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone.” Here, all of the apostles are foundation stones but Jesus is the chief cornerstone. Certainly Peter was the lead apostle in many ways, but to say the entire church, the Body of Christ, was built upon him says too much. Jesus changed Simon’s name to Peter (rock) because of his confession that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God. Jesus is making a contrast between the foundation rock on which the gates of Hell was built upon, which was Mt. Hermon and the foundation rock on which the church would be built, which is the confession that Jesus is the Christ of the Living God.

Also, its interesting to note that 4 verses after calling him Peter, Jesus called him Satan for trying to rebuke Him after revealing the sufferings He must go through in the future. In reality, Peter and John are the opposites. Peter boasting his love for Jesus, while John boasting of Jesus' love for him. This is very important in Christian living and a truth I might never see in The Chosen.

This episode was the most Catholic congruent episode yet.❤❤❤

Jesus/Yeshua saying He will build His church on “this rock” takes me back to the vision of the statue in Daniel 2 where “a stone not cut by human hands” strikes the statue on the feet and destroys the statue of the empires, and then the rock turns into a mountain and covers the whole world.

Thank you you’re the first person I ve heard that agreed with me. That’s how I understood it. On this revelation I AM THE CHRIST THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD.

Why do protestants continue to make what Jesus said to Peter confusing by trying to make sense of the Greek translation of Rock. Jesus spoke in Aramaic. Rock is Kephas (Cephas) where there is no confusion about what Jesus said and meant to Peter. Jesus made Peter the foundation of his Church. Jesus is the Head, the cornerstone, of his Church. If the Bible is read in proper context, Peter was the head of the apostles in virtually every situation. Jesus meant for Peter to lead his Church. This whole problem of trying to find a proper translation of Aramaic to Greek introduces the Petros/Petra confusion of what was meant. The Aramaic word for Rock, Kephas/Cephas, does not have male-female sense of the words which introduces the problems with large vs. small rock, Petros vs. Petra. Using the Aramaic eliminates the problems with the translation of Aramaic to Greek. Peter was the Rock and Jesus meant him to be the prime minister of his Church on earth.

Peter is the leader of the church that Jesus founded. It is straightforward. You are overly trying to debate and force your protestant view.

Thank you so much for your going through the scenes with everyone! ♥️🙏

Peter is NOT the Rock. All throughout the Bible, Jesus is called the Rock. Peter/Cephas means "loose stone," so it's not an elevation, but a comment on Simon's character, much as James and John are called the"Sons of Thunder." I am concerned that people will be confused. This is a teaching of Catholic origin (and before you start jumping on me about that, I was raised Catholic!) It is NOT Biblical. In fact, if you read the four gospels in whole, you'll see the context is that Jesus only calls Simon "Peter" when he screws up. In fact, Simon proves his true character when just a few verses after Jesus calls him "Peter" Simon indeed screws up and Jesus chastises him by saying, "Get behind me, Satan!" So let's not confuse Simon/Peter as the rock on which the Church is built. Jesus is the foundation rock of the Church.

Peter is the Rock. Jesus didn’t speak Greek, he spoke Aramaic and the word in Aramaic (Kephas) is the same word used both times in that statement and… Peter is also called Cephas in the Bible.

It means catholics are right.

I'm certainly not a theologian but I like to listen to different opinions about the gospels. I'd like to know what you think of Brant Pitre's talk "The Jewish Roots of the Papacy" given 5 years ago but easy to find on RU-vid. Stick with it to the end, very interesting.

I agree. I grew up Catholic and was taught that Peter was the first Pope. I now believe what Jesus was saying is the confession that Peter made is the foundation of the church, not the person. We tend to see things from the human perspective. Jesus saw things from the spiritual perspective.

Also like the lesson of how John the Baptizer was faithful. Powerful lesson when you think about modern culture. The lesson is, no matter what is going on around you….its what’s in you (aka faith) that guides your actions

I say this with all due love and respect to my Catholic brothers and sisters: Brandon is a Protestant, and if hundreds of years of (sometimes, quite brutal) disagreement between our two factions has proven one thing, it’s that you’re not gonna convince the likes of us to kiss the ring of priest or pope, even the likes of St. Peter himself. 😂 Only Jesus. 😉

Hope we get to meet the young John Mark. He should have been a young teenager by this time. Younger than John.

peter is the foundation 0f the church because the holy spirit will rule that church as is related in the church council in acts of the apostles. it says that "such is our decision and the decision of the holy spirit" for the 1st time the outcome of spiritual growth and church governance will not depend on a man but on a man filled with the holy spirit and the church as we see in acts is also directly governed by the holy spirit.

Explain personal revelation because Jesus clearly affirmed that Simon now Peter received personal revelation. It was not completely personal faith on Peter’s part it was on personal revelation received by Peter Therefore Jesus is talking about building the church on personal revelation

Peter is Petro! Jesus is Petra. DIFFERENT.

Hallelujah- YES!! That ROCK KNOWLEDGE CONFESSION THAT JESUS CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD!! ❤

I always perceived what Jesus said about the rock is that it’s Peter’s faith. And on His people’s faith He will build His church…. 🤷‍♀️ But in keeping with the pebble vs mountain face…. Each believer is a stone to build the church but the faith in Jesus is the foundation stone.

There were no backpacks in 33AD😂

Great video. One thing though, the reason why they chose that place to be the place where Jesus said all those important things is not for drama. The chosen is better written than that, the things they write almost always have a meaning and here is not different. The reason is actually in Peter's speech, when he said " we worship a living God". He was saying that all of those pagan gods were dead but the son of God lives and so they chose a place that is called "the gates of hell" where people at that time literary thought it was the entrance to the underworld and was full of horrible activities but Christ was bigger than that because he is alive. It's actually brilliant how they put the two opposite things together and it make sense with the theme of the season, and it made the scene and the message Jesus was giving way more weight. Of course, i'm talking about weight for a show, the passage is perfect the way it is in the bible but the chosen sometimes does that kind of thing for people that maybe watch the show and never read the bible and is not familiar with Jesus, sometimes they spell it all for the audience, maybe some of us cannot like that but we can't deny it's not well written and that it works for what they try to convey.

I am pretty sure Jesus and the disciples did actually go to the gates of hell because that was where Jesus said on this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail, thereby reclaiming the land that Satan held as his own, setting the stage for Satans destruction. DR, Micheal Heiser does a great seminar on this very subject,

I would like to thank you for your video and your explanations on the topic, for me it was very clear and much easier to understand the issue of changing Simon's name.

Language interruption 2000 + yrs later is a mystery.especially from ayrimtrk to english

People do realize there was an actual rock rising out of the pool with a statue of mithra sitting on it at the time, the romans built an aqueduct to keep the rock above water.

We are now living in a time where we cannot go by what other people tell us what is in the Bible. We need to be reading the Bible To discern for ourselves. I do have a love and hate relationship with this show. There are so many parts of the show that are amazing but then there are parts that are so unbiblical. In Matthew 15:16 Peter confessed that Jesus is Christ. The rock is that He is the Christ. If you read in verse 22 Peter starts rebuking Christ and Jesus in turn rebuked him. Peter was a very Flawed person just like every other person in the Bible except for one. Christ is The Rock. We need to realize that this is just a secular show about Jesus and not entirely biblically accurate. We need to be reading the Bible ourselves. Reading the Word is a life changer! ❤❤

Yes I think we've all been there. After all we live in this evil earth!

As Nick Vujicic says - "I'm standing at the gates of hell redirecting traffic!" The Church redirects traffic to Jesus and our True & Living God. Jesus did *not* make Simon Peter infallible (and neither is the Pope!)

Della W. Here. Hope all is well with you

1 Corinthians 10:4 tells us that that rock is Christ.

I agree that the "rock" which the church is built upon is revelation from God the father via the holy ghost. This is how Simon Peter knew Jesus was the Christ, the son of God the father.

Ciaphis is an amazing actor. He is so good he’s scary!!!!! Absolutely my favorite episode! So much going on!

No issue. Makes sense. Makes sense from scripture. Peter also gave the very first sermon at Pentecost which started the church.

For a long time I have believed it is the confession