What Kenyan Men Really Think  

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Michael oyier has a PhD in maturity

The first guy to contribute from the audience is dope!!

Bravo Mike Oyier, I like your perspectives. My 2cents opinion on the issue of marriage: Women marry 'lifestyle' rather than the man (a entity). Men marry a 'body' rather than a character/personality (a woman). There are many similarities between the love of Christ to his bride (the church), or a people. This matrix exudes so many parallels between female nature and the way women behaves towards men, on one hand, and the way Men behaves towards God. Men (the populace, a people), only need God when it's convenient for them, ( when they have a pressing need, loneliness, sorrowful, or in a life threatening scenario to say the least). In this case, its all about what God can provide, to better our situation. Is that really love for God? Even with realization that Christ died, became a curse for us, to be saved, its still not enough to submit, to reverence, we still accuse God of not loving us enough. We only love God because we want a good fulfilling life, prosperity and excellence. We always want a spiritual father figure to fix things for us and be at our call and beck. Not minding what God wants of us first, before He can bless us. ' seek ye the kingdom of God, then everything will be........'. So do we truly love God? No. There so many comparisons of this in the way women are unable to selflessly love men in reciprocity to the way Men love and provide for women. Despite the fact that men take risks, put their lives at stake in some instances for women. The bible exhorts men (husbands) to love women (wives), as Christ loves his bride (the church). The holy writ says men are the head and women, the body, just as Christ is the head and the man, the body. I thought this is an issue to ponder.

Not all men have wisdom, wisdom is not a patriarchal thing, so when you follow the man's word as the final, utaumia my fren

The bible says, love your wife as christ loves the church. That means wife submission comes after love. Make her the queen then automatic your the king.

No marriage can work if the man don’t hv wisdom

lots Respects 4 yu Mr Oyier!.. good discussion. Chris Kuria.....I love yur old school matureness too. ... mwakideu sounds like Gaddaffi! a dictator ! his word is final.

Here's what would work for uninformed unwise men: Know who you are before pursuing a relationship. If you want a good woman, be a good man!

Dayan Masinde had good points. Dude in the cap is so hell bent on beating his chest that he's the head/leader 🙄. Sir you cannot demand respect. It's so funny how we use culture and scripture only when it's convenient or strengthens our opinion. Ya'll can keep them, I'm good.

Let me educate you all. Women submit to love. Love her, worship even the things that she feels awful about like her menstrual flow, or her stretchmarks, goddamn it love her morning breath, love her fears, let her know you'll protect her when things go south , let her know you love the ugly face she makes when she cries. Love her silly kinky hair that won't grow no matter how many eggs & avocadoes she applies on her scalp. Hell ! apply the egg mix on her scalp yourself kwani iko nini. Tell her you love the lingerie she puts on for you. If she got tiny titties , let her know they drive you crazy just as they are and you wouldn't have it any other way.Let her know she can fart in peace , that she can leave the toilet door open when she is doing her thang! Make it your mission to take every damn insecurity and paint them in silver. Then sit and watch your girl burn bright like a comet. ... watch her period cramps magically disappear, watch her recurrent infections disappear like they were never there. see how she takes the world by storm. if she is an English teacher, she will teach till the roof speaks in Fluent English. Don't play with women whose full potential has been unlocked. She will become the perfect woman for you no matter how progressive, how woke, how educated she is. If you come home one day and say you're going to Jupiter, she'll pack two suitcases and say '' when are we leaving'' .... really, if the above never comes to your mind when you are with her, please don't marry her, don't drag innocent children into a family of half-baked love.

Masinde deserved to be on the panel He's giving wisdom

Mwakideu..i think his name is, should realise that most of our mums stayed cos they didnt have choices...more specifically, the financial wherewithal to leave bad marriages. And he should also know that not everyone is necessarily religious. He seems to be very close-minded..

wow. i always love Michaels passion. this is the second time i have heard his talks. big up. i love the show....

Looking forward for the ladies edition too.. Very interesting indeed... I like what Dyan said " marry your bestfriend"

Dyan Masinde is goals for a husband. He's Godly, deep and mature. This I love!

i looooove the fact that the Bible is a point of reference in this discussion

Thanks Tamima for this episode. Just started following you on youTube. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Great guys and their contributions.

Michael Oyier is very mature for that panel...wuoye?! He is sitting with all these skewed crew

Amazing show. ..Mike is so handsome and his voice is wow

THEY ARE ALL SELFISH THINGS WITH THEIR CRIES FOR RESPECT BUT NO TIME TO REALLY KNOW WHAT A WOMAN NEEDS

Michael Oyier's voice is killing me yawa. Atim nang'o joka nam😍🤣?

Almighty Father,could you please elevate Dayan so that he speaks life to our men in this country,even as you are grooming me to do the same with ladies,please,please Holy spirit. I know you have the power.Amen.

A man should first realize he is a man before a woman realizes he is a man. No wonder based on the myopic backward primitive and oppressive viewpoints of this male panel woman are not serious in relationships. I would hate my daughter to marry any one of these men. Except the reasonable person in the audience. Respect is earned by loving your woman. It is not a right but a result of your effort men! We women also see men as peacocks and we want to be with a peacock not with a crow like these men. I feel so violated by these men's attitudes no wonder men are killing themselves over the lack of love from their women. If this is the bullying and unromantic manner in which they treat their women.

Tamima ur shows are the best .

The man with a Cape answered well,submission is a result of love,

Uhh this made me feel some type of way. I wonder if I can even articulate my thoughts 😬why is it women have to submit first so that they can love them. As much as women are not equal to men (and not in the way some might think) love and relationships are are about lifting each other up and complementing each other. Where one is weak the other one is strong. It is not about who has more authority than the other. The counselor is speaking life! Some of the comments from the guest speakers 🧐 and when someone quotes the Bible they need to quote the whole context not just the bit they like or works in their favor. Counselor, speak LIFE you’re educating our people!

To all those praising the well spoken Mike, please remember He is NOT a married man. And until one gets married, it's not possible to know what happens in committed relationships!! But he looks like a good guy

That man with the cap doeskin know the meaning of submission at all. He thinks it means its the man to have a job, and the woman to sty in the house. Nope. Read Proverbs 31. That righteous woman bought and sold land, was a business lady with several workers and servants under her care.

Waiting for my Dayan Masinde! I mean the man with great knowledge& respect for women.

This show is Amazing 👌 Mob love TAMIMA

Mike I well composed and articulate in passing his point across kudos plus that voice damn

You know l find it frustrating that this older guys keep on saying back in the day our mothers,do they also know that those mothers stayed because of the community around her not because of love or happiness .and the younger guys are speaking more Biblically sound than the older guys.

" man's word is final" what! as a man let me say this... That sounds like dictatorship not a marriage- i think that a man's words has some weight, it gives direction especially in dires situations but Final? come on! tell me that in an uncivilised world! press a pause button and leave that studio asap! Do you know how good it is to be with the woman that you love in one accord? how rewarding it is to communicate with each other like members one band trying to make a fine sound! it might feel on the surface like it empties the power of you ,but trust me, it earns you more respect in that house as Man! Well you can be the head of the house by default, but respect is earned! Thumbs up to#Oyier,Kirwa.

just stambled on this and my ooh my i love the discussion, understanding the male perceptions towards women and love and marriage...great work Tamima. Dayan Masinde may the Holy spirit fill you to inspire more men out there...you speak alot of sense . Too much sense

Mike oyier♥♥♥

The guy with the cap is too chauvinistic... he rules by his chest.. too manipulative and arrogant...

There is nothing wrong with conflict! Shocked? YES! Conflict is inevitable because two people have come together from two different worlds. What is wrong is unhealthy ways of dealing with conflict, eg. using submission to stifle your spouse's ability to offer input. This might also come as a shock to you, but the woman is a helper. That means you NEED help. Anyone who needs help is undoubtedly NOT self sufficient, in every sense of the word and every form of his being. That means help is not just in cooking and keeping everything clean. It includes THINKING AND DECISION MAKING.

Michael Oyier i wish all men were thinking like you do and wise like you are,.. You just amaze me.

Tamima I would love to also hear what Kenyan women really think..... I appreciate that no matter the heated up conversation here among our men, they all have a point. I love the fact that they bring up the social media thing plus they base their ideas from a spiritual perspective.

This couselor is on point.

We need more men Like Dayan, the guy in the cap anakiburi Sana.

great talk really appreciate the show

The head of the house is not the man, it is the husband. Biblically, the head of the house of an unmarried lady is her father. When she is married, it is her husband. Boyfriends and all types of prospects are not recognised neither do they have any righta to the lady as the head as Mwakideu is trying to say. God loved the church first and the church is learning/learnt how to submit after. It should be the same with men and women respectively. The reversal of roles has led to the current society where men are not respected nor trusted and women are not loved nor cherished.

Interesting talk. Lets have more and more of these talks.

Watching from Oman, very very good topic and real issues displayed,am a new subscriber. I also think you should bring a panel where younger men with older women, something that's happening and so many people needs help.

Michael Oyler, awesome. I am a therapist expert in men’s issues. Your points are wonderful

Counsellor Dayan Masinde. ..you are the best . Right from this to relationship deal breakers. Am just in love with your counsel. I just wish i will have to meet you some day in my life. Good job.😍😍

Michael's mature talk and voice

This z wonderful talk, wishing my man was attending it too

Men have to take care of their responsibilities as the head of the home. Then the respect will come. I can’t pay the rent but the food pay school fees and you still want me to respect and submit. It just will not work.

all presenters/interviewers, kwanza chipukizi, should learn from TAMIMA. she is so composed and very mature

Great I formative show Tamima big up girl and dauhgter of Zion

There is nothing like an expert when it comes to marriage /love. I laugh when I see people going for this guys for counselling. I would never do that, do u even know how there relationship is.,watu bwana wacheni mchezo

Michael Oyier... Too much wisdom and eloquence

How many women have submitted and still been not loved

its very true submitting is biblical,sometimes its hard to submit but its way to go

mwakideu nlijua tu kizungu itakua balaa.....a very good radio presenter

Mwakideu air quotes on a good woman ? 🤔 Wow David👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼, never have I ever heard a man, describe a woman so passionately. Wisdom Oyier so awesome.

uui! the lies some of these men wanasema aki. ati if a woman submits the man will love her hehe.... its a lie some men use the submission to have their cake and eat it

Love love this show

Mwakideu should have read Ephesians 21 before the rest that he read. He is so focused on winning the conversation rather than winning the soul. He has some work to do with his understanding on what a christian marriage/relationship expects. John15:13 . Christ is the head of the church yet lays his life for the church.

Jesus is God,he was super powerful. He wept, he cried,he even sweat blood swile crying. Now he didn't become weak by that?

Meakideu is clearly not getting it lol

Am always on my own,,why should I respect a man who does not respect me?why should I be committed to a man who does not want to be committed to me??why should I submit 😂lemme just work for me,,singleness is a gift to some of us women!!

Oooo God I love mike oyier.😘❤️

Great discussion, nice show 👌👌👂👂👂👏👏👏

What's wrong with teamwork? Respecting each other by working together instead of the man presenting as..."I am the leader or head of the household so I willl have the final say."

Yes Masinde.. Men need to open up. We as women feel bad when a man don't talk out about his issues

A woman submits to a man's leadership, not the man himself. People should get thag point straight

I wish i knew all these.. I have lost good relationships simply because...

Mwakideu amefuzwa ujinga kabisa na mzee jalas, that's dictatorship not leadership quality

Michael is a wise man..eloquent,knowledgeable.

The counselor you are on point,,

.. keep it up Tamima, great work

I love this Counselor

A great lesson to me actually.

Mwakideu on spot tell them as it is, women want equality but not the responsibilities that comes with it...

I will say this and leave it here, we are in different era. May be some of these men need to know the definition of love. We are all adults and respect comes both ways. If you love someone, you would want to protect, provide and nurture

their are good men but those who fear GOD.

Jesus..all these men clapping should be taken to 1950. They would fit in. It is very sad that we have to preach submission to a woman. Men who respect themselves will definately be respected.They wont have to ask for it. Men who lead their lives wisely will get a wise woman..Its truly sad what men in Kenya have totally turned into

I love this show very much ... tamima yu look beatiful ..... dyan ad Robert bulale are the best

First tym to see Mike oyier after listening to him on radio for over 20yrs😜

great work Tamima

The counselor in the audience with the stripped shirt apewe soda on me. Very mature point of view. God bless you.

Loved the forum. I wish there were women in..

You can only submit to love... Husbands love your wives.. Women submit to your husband...

Mwakideu aezi acha upwani dats how coasterians behave dats y wao huchaguliwa mabwana na mabibi wazazi wakikataa they also refuse yo marry they marry a woman who pleases the family and community not them I know many who have done so and I lost a relationshio due to DAT family pressure

Alex umeniangusha joh

Oooh man!! How Mwakideu represents most African men! Wooooi!!

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Maze hao maboyz wa mtaa wenye wamekaa huko nyuma hawako engaged...kizungu ni mingi hapa...hivi ndio watoi huachwa wanaanza kuimba tulambe lolo

Am happy there using the bible for reference ,and this are real men,

Michael Oyier🙌🙌🙌

There are good men out there but the bad men block them or the good men are too slow.

Mwakideu is in his own world 🤣🤣

Alex still in dictatorship error,Oyier 🙌 Chris,

this mansplanation aarrrrrrggghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude in the hat is throwing some destructive chauvinistic vibe at us hehehe submitting yake ni kunyenyekea ingine crazy hahahaha okay I'm done hehehe

Sometimes it doesn't work marrying your best friend! It's sweet when you are best friends just like that but when you marry it doesn't work! Marriage is a calling more than just best friends. Some people date 3 months, come from different backgrounds and it works, some lol can have been dating yrs , same background, same tribe, can be country but the moment they put the rings it breaks. I believe God unite people for a purpose, pray to get your match. Can be just luck sometimes, or a puzzle 🤔🤔