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What Killed NASCAR? 

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dwindling ratings indicate a dwindling fanbase. costs are out of control and aren't getting much better. what caused it?
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@tomdalfonzo9959
@tomdalfonzo9959 4 года назад
I can sum up what killed NASCAR in two words: BRIAN FRANCE!!!!!!
@henryjames8654
@henryjames8654 4 года назад
I can sum it up in one word, GREED.
@richardlamb5369
@richardlamb5369 4 года назад
Ur right thats what u get when u leave a rich spolied entitled brat in charge!!!!#rich prick!!
@TheOwl22
@TheOwl22 3 года назад
I can sum it up in 6 words. Toxicity of the fanbases and mismanagement.
@MrChristopherHaas
@MrChristopherHaas 3 года назад
@@henryjames8654 I’d have to add the word “blind” to it. Blind Greed that automatically lets the sponsors run everything instead of putting the best, most experienced actual race car drivers on track with actual stock cars and selling the product where people will come and see it and are/were invested in it instead of charging $100 for weekend seats wherein said sponsors children no ones ever heard of and have 0 reason to care about are learning how to drive on Fridays AND Saturdays and the grads race on Sundays against the dozen or so deserving drivers/teams
@theaviationphotographer61
@theaviationphotographer61 2 года назад
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssss I agree
@chandlerwhite8302
@chandlerwhite8302 5 лет назад
A short list: 1. Earnhardt Sr’s death 2. The “Car of Tomorrow” 3. Bruton Smith’s greed, building all of the boring 1.5 mile tracks in new markets that could care less about NASCAR and leaving places that moved and died for the sport. 4. The dominance of Hendrick Motorsports- why watch when you know the same person is going to win every week? 5. The France family’s whacked out behavior; changing rules every week and acting like arrogant dictators to the teams, fans and press, possibly explained now by drug use.
@blacktoblack7292
@blacktoblack7292 4 года назад
Car of tomorrow wasn’t bad. What sorta brought it back was when Edwards went into the fence
@richardlamb5369
@richardlamb5369 4 года назад
Amen brother especially the tracks abandoned the exciting tracks like north wilksboro rockingham hickory etc 4 what rich suits with deep pockets racing is dead it died with Dale sr.!!!!#NASCAR,MORE LIKE PANSIE MOTORSPORTS
@Lorelei41
@Lorelei41 4 года назад
Chandler White I agree!! We need more tracks like North Wilkesboro and Martinsville!! Those races were always good races
@josiah4614
@josiah4614 4 года назад
Yeah its definitely not Hendrick
@richardlamb5369
@richardlamb5369 4 года назад
Amen dude u sure got that right enough said!!!
@tauyun
@tauyun 4 года назад
It's amazing that F-1 go do an entire 2 hour race without commercial breaks but NASCAR has more commercial time than actual race time
@mirzaahmed6589
@mirzaahmed6589 4 года назад
I haven't watched F1 regularly since 2008, but I recall plenty of commercial breaks.
@pyromcr
@pyromcr 4 года назад
Yup, there is no good way to watch NASCAR. I would pay for a streaming service with non stop F1 level commentary. But that doesn't exist, instead all we have is non stop commercials and commentators that don't talk about anything besides surface level details and just sound bored and low energy.
@tauyun
@tauyun 4 года назад
@@mirzaahmed6589 There are no commercials in F1 from start to finish for the race and for qualifying
@Habit.0505
@Habit.0505 4 года назад
Welcome to America, land of the free and home of the most commercials ever seen on TV
@dannywestbrooks7207
@dannywestbrooks7207 4 года назад
What NASCAR has and F1 doesn't is Capitalism
@caelroighblunt1956
@caelroighblunt1956 5 лет назад
The unsustainable business model may be the root but for me, anyway, it was the innate stupidity of a "playoff" format that allowed teams to win championships based on a third of a season. Now they've just turned Cup races into heat races. A real race is a race that is run from start to finish without artificial pauses. A real season is run from start to finish.
@kayakdog121
@kayakdog121 5 лет назад
Same reason so-called "country" music sucks now. It no longer has the original down home grit. The image is overly produced in a phony made for TV way. And of course the fans are being reamed for money at every opportunity while the hyped up stars, owners, and sponsors get super rich. Its turned into a money extraction machine first and entertainment second.
@kayakdog121
@kayakdog121 5 лет назад
@Mattixx G Haven't gotten laid in a while, huh?. Lol
@IICLUII
@IICLUII 5 лет назад
@@kayakdog121 LMAO! xD
@alaricvisigoth919
@alaricvisigoth919 5 лет назад
Everything must be in order. We can't have random people out for a good time. And I hear Antifa is starting a race team.
@Peter-pv8xx
@Peter-pv8xx 5 лет назад
George Jones said it best in the song who's gonna fill their shoes. The current country music leaves much to be desired in my opinion.
@Dave-ty2qp
@Dave-ty2qp 5 лет назад
From my own personal memory of racing in the 60's, whether it was stock car racing or drag strip, it was grass roots. Family and friends getting together with some junk yard parts and competing with one another for a cute trophe or just bragging rites. Fun and games until the sponsorships took over. Big money pushed out the locals, and the fun died.
@charleslee9603
@charleslee9603 5 лет назад
Nacar forgot where they came from.
@JeHa1967
@JeHa1967 5 лет назад
Charles Lee thats what ithink too
@acewilliams7917
@acewilliams7917 5 лет назад
Yup, forget your roots and you lose sight of everything.
@wingnut5485
@wingnut5485 5 лет назад
AUSTIN DILLON WAS ON AN AD AND I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE DILLON FAMILY.
@wingnut5485
@wingnut5485 5 лет назад
He said Nadcar
@suspiciouschicken
@suspiciouschicken 4 года назад
A few guys with modified fords racing around dirt tracks
@JohnDoe-mk6dw
@JohnDoe-mk6dw 5 лет назад
Is this the problem with all big modern franchises? Companies try to appeal to casual fans and they lose both the hardcore fans and the casual fans?
@davidallen234
@davidallen234 4 года назад
John Doe Exactly I just hope a new generation will start appealing to better audiences instead of casuals all the time.
@richardlamb5369
@richardlamb5369 4 года назад
Yes its not racing anymore its a circus and Nascar officials and car owners r the ring masters and the drivers r the clowns!!!
@TheOwl22
@TheOwl22 3 года назад
How about how the fanbase has become so toxic that they have contributed to killing NASCAR?
@napoleaj01
@napoleaj01 5 лет назад
I was born in the early 1980’s. I remember watching Bill Elliott win the pole for the 1985 Daytona 500. I watching as much NASCAR as I could as a kid until about 2000. It’s not so much the cost of a ticket, those are no more than a football or hockey game. Here are my thoughts: 1. I think the core group of NASCAR fans has gotten older. My Dad is in his late 60’s now, he doesn’t go to races anymore. In the 1990’s we watched and drove to watch racing. I have young Millenial co-workers, none of them have a natural interest in cars. This isn’t 1950 anymore, cars have been optimized and are modes of transportation, not hobbies. 2. Rule changes. I’m not sure why NASCAR can’t find a rules package and stick with it. As I type this I am watching Atlanta, and now the cars are limited to 550 horsepower. Why? 3. The races themselves follow a predictable pattern. The leader charges out front, then it’s cars in a line with no passing for 200 laps. Many of the new tracks introduced in the 1990’s were cookie cutter mile and a half’s, and there is no passing. 4. The death of Dale Earnhardt had a real effect. As referenced in point #1, all the drivers I grew up with are gone - Earnhardt, Mark Martin, Jeff Gordon, Ernie Irvan, Bill Elliott, Alan Kuiwicki, Terry Labonte, Rusty Wallace, Ken Schrader, Dale Jarrett, Harry Gant. 5. Watching Atlanta right now. Commercials at lap 10 and again at 23 laps. Daytona this year was insane.
@RJARRRPCGP
@RJARRRPCGP 4 года назад
@Cheetahs Fly 550 HP isn't a lick more than a high-trim stock Corvette, LOL.
@howardfordyce5699
@howardfordyce5699 4 года назад
All excellent points. Nascar is headed for the checkered flag.
@jasonsimmons7479
@jasonsimmons7479 5 лет назад
Indeed they priced the sport out of reach of the ppl who made it.
@IDYLBERRY
@IDYLBERRY 5 лет назад
That's a good part of it. I live 20 minutes from Infineon raceway and been going there since the mid 70's. I've earned enough to attend a lot of racing there not just NASCAR. NASCAR tickets are $100.00 and I've better thing to spend money on. Infineon gave to much track control to NASCAR. They eliminated the "carousel" then straightened the track through turns 4-6. I used to park my van at the top of turn 2 where they eventually put the camera crew so I parked 20 back. Then the track owners say no one allowed to park around the track except the motorhome parking above turns 8-9. Next they wanted everyone in a seat. It was turned from a customer friendly track into a customer fleecing track. I still go there 2-3 times a year but not for NASCAR.
@Broncort1
@Broncort1 5 лет назад
Notice it all went downhill after Winston was tossed.
@texknight67
@texknight67 5 лет назад
That was a major red flag to me as well. I thought they should get rid of sponsors altogether. Even for the different series. Opperate like all the other major sports.
@EH-ev8zf
@EH-ev8zf 5 лет назад
I agree... They dumped IROC, too. That was not a good thing.
@wildwoody20
@wildwoody20 5 лет назад
Exactly after you went and left the monster girls how bad they look yeah if you're a man you like the way they look but do you want to take your son down there or let him watch out on TV at in the winter circle they're very sleazy looking same thing as Motocross the monster girls look very sleazy and when you got children that's not cool
@cumminsrealpower680
@cumminsrealpower680 5 лет назад
Damn right!!!!!! But it's ok to have alcohol sponsor a race. Can't remember the race but in 2018 there was a race sponsored by some vodka(I think) brand. Heck, I preferred the Winston Cup. WINSTON WILL ALWAYS BE WHAT I CALL IT.
@FerrickOxhide
@FerrickOxhide 5 лет назад
Exactly
@redcaraiden
@redcaraiden 5 месяцев назад
Whos watching in 2024?
@ShawnaGraham50
@ShawnaGraham50 4 года назад
It’s death started when it wasn’t the “Winston cup” anymore.
@amskeels
@amskeels 4 года назад
100% right!
@nathanking9083
@nathanking9083 4 года назад
Yeah used to be able to leave track with a month's worth of free smokes...ahhhhhh the good old days
@spence7985
@spence7985 4 года назад
right on
@bigmatthawk18
@bigmatthawk18 4 года назад
Well maybe by 2003 it was less trendy to smoke than how it was back in the 70s when they started sponsoring the top racing series in NASCAR
@OriginImports
@OriginImports 4 года назад
Big tobacco and alcohol accounted for a fuck ton of money in NASCAR when those companies werent allowed to advertise anymore, all that funding died, and thus NASCAR died as well, guess tobacco really does kill everything eventually...Also i refuse to watch races now days cause the stupid SECTOR shit they got going now, If its 300 laps it better be 300 laps not a F1 qualifying session.
@stephengrahn9361
@stephengrahn9361 5 лет назад
It was all bull after they stopped the N Wilksboro race down and moved a bunch of races out of the South.
@tennsmoothie
@tennsmoothie 5 лет назад
Yes
@dondaly5297
@dondaly5297 5 лет назад
Canceling N Wilksbro, Rockingham, cutting Darlington and all regional tracks to one race a year was suicide by ignorance and greed. Bill France Jr got sold a bill of goods that lasted just about ONE DECADE and started a slow and painful death to anyone who knew the purpose and mission of Big Bill, which was to simply provide a good thing to racer and fan alike. Same thing happened to D.I.R.T. in the N.E., big money and mirrors moved in and "real racin" went away.
@WaterboyCaniac
@WaterboyCaniac 5 лет назад
Yep! And building the same track in different cities/states! And Waltrip excusing that saying the tracks aren't the same because one may have a bump in a spot on the track that the others don't. 🙄
@brennanshapiro6595
@brennanshapiro6595 4 года назад
As someone who grew up in Rockingham, the only thing that will get me interested in NASCAR again is if at least one race a year returns to Rockingham.
@DavidScercy
@DavidScercy 5 лет назад
Ads in the middle of videos is what will kill RU-vid....jus sayin
@KamikazeGames
@KamikazeGames 5 лет назад
You know what I've had adblock on for so long i didn't even know there were midroll ads in this video lmao
@slayer5813
@slayer5813 5 лет назад
Yeah, it's called AdBlock lol. Who watches RU-vid with ads in 2018?
@AnnaAnnaYes
@AnnaAnnaYes 5 лет назад
You're right!!
@silasmarner7586
@silasmarner7586 5 лет назад
agreed, I use adblock plus.... what ads???
@mrbobsshow
@mrbobsshow 5 лет назад
Hell yeah
@fire1777
@fire1777 5 лет назад
Too many cars under the same owner. Not suppose to be a group trophy.
@GatoradeCupSeriesX94
@GatoradeCupSeriesX94 3 года назад
3 years later... It's gotten even worse... #FIRESTEVEPHELPS
@Habit.0505
@Habit.0505 4 месяца назад
You sure about that?
@bubblepuppie6341
@bubblepuppie6341 5 лет назад
My grandad calls it Hollywood racing and real racing died with the good ol boys.
@dabprod4962
@dabprod4962 5 лет назад
Bubble.....you're Grandad is exactly right.
@suzannehaynes824
@suzannehaynes824 5 лет назад
Amen
@toddlosure4793
@toddlosure4793 5 лет назад
I grew up watching Nascar with my dad in the 90s. It was so much fun, cheap enough for all fans, and had such a different feel to it. If you didnt see it you cant understand. So sad.
@TheBillpucci
@TheBillpucci 5 лет назад
Your grandad is correct. Now you get a ride because you have a pretty face you can put on cereal box. Before you only got a ride if you could drive. You worked your way up from the dirt and small tracks hoping to get a chance at the big time. The Busch series then the Cup series. Boy do I miss racing. Losing Dale didn't help at all.
@traildog_adventures
@traildog_adventures 5 лет назад
Your granddad is partially correct, real racing isn't dead it's just not televised. You can find it at all of the small town tracks all across the country still every Friday and Saturday night throughout the summer.
@Bluelightning23
@Bluelightning23 5 лет назад
Bring back stock bodies and modern factory engines.
@kevinerose
@kevinerose 5 лет назад
Basically, we need a new stock car racing circuit. Kill NASCAR and place sponsor limits on cars, no team play, make tickets affordable again, and allow walk-on drivers.
@kylekenan2321
@kylekenan2321 5 лет назад
And dirt tracks
@flyingfishsurf
@flyingfishsurf 5 лет назад
Even the most recent internal combustion engine is not 'modern'. Join the 21st century.
@Bluelightning23
@Bluelightning23 5 лет назад
@@flyingfishsurf most cars on the road use overhead camshafts. NASCAR started using fuel injection just a few years ago. They still use a rear suspension designed in the 50s or 60s and a front suspension that's even older. In fact, it's so outdated they have to wedge the rear end just to make it handle a turn a high speeds. So, I'm pretty sure you know what I mean when I say, modern.
@Bluelightning23
@Bluelightning23 5 лет назад
@@flyingfishsurf and just in case you assume I'm not aware the overhead cam engine isn't really modern, I am, but it's what most cars use today.
@dougboggio7098
@dougboggio7098 5 лет назад
It's not a sport anymore,........it's a business Bye bye NASCAR
@Nobody-kg8md
@Nobody-kg8md 5 лет назад
Citation needed
@richardlamb5369
@richardlamb5369 4 года назад
Ur 100 percent right
@jermaineboyd6594
@jermaineboyd6594 4 года назад
Soon we could say r.I.p nascar 1958-2025
@toomuchisaid928
@toomuchisaid928 4 года назад
Never was a sport...cars going in circles...lame
@richardlamb5369
@richardlamb5369 4 года назад
@@toomuchisaid928 Its only lame if ur not a fan maybe ur not a fan but seeing how it is 2day hell i dont blame u it is just going around in circles and it is lame now so i have 2 agree with u!!!
@mikesproles7045
@mikesproles7045 5 лет назад
The Brian France and Mike Helton killed NASCAR I grew up watching. New rules packages every single year and changing the points system every time we turn around and now this crap about stage racing "trying to make it fair".... I can't even keep up with the rule changes and points system. Then if we get a little rain we've got to have a competition caution, screw that just race and get rid of the damn restrictor plates while your at it. If I can build a Ford Pinto that will go 240 on Talladega and still turn left, then u better build one to or you will lose the race. I can't stand a race that is follow the leader, if you step out to pass you are going to the back of the pack, racing is about passing other drivers to get to the front, not as much about who took 2 tires to get track position knowing no one could pass them if they break the draft.
@Buck1954
@Buck1954 5 лет назад
Trying to adopt political correctness killed it for me. Sponsors and Television has ruined all of the sports.
@dickfitzwell1409
@dickfitzwell1409 5 лет назад
The best races in my memory are the ones that were on the radio with Eli Gold calling them...with the exception of the 1976 Daytona and 1979 Daytona.
@DarthVader1977
@DarthVader1977 5 лет назад
have* ruined
@ryankc3631
@ryankc3631 5 лет назад
I agree.
@waterheaterservices
@waterheaterservices 5 лет назад
Comrades we must have Party Approved Correct Thinking and Speech.
@cuses-ws5gp
@cuses-ws5gp 5 лет назад
And just how would you let people in all parts of the country view the races? If you think the pittance you pay for tickets would attract enough cars to the races, you live in a different world than I! Therefore, you have to have help. "Political correctness" has nothing to do with it - the person that wrote that millennials don't watch it nor care that much about cars is much more correct. Look where the US population lives now - 42% of the population lives in 3% of the counties of the US. Many, many more big cities than there used to be - people have much less use for cars than they once did. No conspiracy - just population changes. Same goes for the number of people who hunt any more.
@GMAN420BC
@GMAN420BC 5 лет назад
NASCAR lost its fan base because it allowed sponsors to sell more than the sport itself. A NASCAR event was a 4 hour advertisement of all corporate logos that happened to have a car race going on too. It became so expensive to go to the race, they priced themselves right out of their fan bases ability to go.
@zenzen7136
@zenzen7136 5 лет назад
It's always been a advertising on cars.
@dannywestbrooks7207
@dannywestbrooks7207 4 года назад
Thats how all sports are.
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@Dr.MantisTobogganMD 2 года назад
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@HemiSlant6828
@HemiSlant6828 Год назад
@@zenzen7136 ehh, not really true. Back in the 40's and 50's back when the sport was starting, you would be hard pressed to find someone with a major sponsor out on track. Hell, most of the sponsors back then were just small mechanic shops that wanted some attention.
@struggleboy
@struggleboy 4 года назад
The problem with not having "stock" cars is that the sport used to come up from below. A young kid could take a car he bought for $1000, add a roll cage and participate in local stock car races. He'd get better, win more and more, and eventually get the attention of a sponsor, who would get him a better car to drive in national races, eventually getting to NASCAR. At least that would be the Dream. There's now no relation between local stock car racing (does it even exist any more?) and NASCAR.
@henryjames8654
@henryjames8654 4 года назад
stuggleboy, the other thing missing, all the practice they got running from the "revenuers" as well as the cash flow generated by moonshine sales. These farm boys didn't come up with the money to race from selling crops. But I guess that isn't socially accepted.
@howardfordyce5699
@howardfordyce5699 4 года назад
Nothing lasts forever, nothing. I'm thankful to have been around for the Winston Cup era. That was racing! Thanks for the memories.
@ohger1
@ohger1 5 лет назад
Two things for me: as a born and bred Northerner, I loved the whole Southern reb aspect of the spectacle. Even the race announcers had drawls. The loss of that heritage was lamentable and preventable. The second reason was not preventable: current cars on sale cannot be converted for racing. Back when I was a kid, I owned Torinos and Monte Carlos (wanted a Charger but never found one I liked), and loved seeing the car I was actually driving modified to race on Sundays. Now everyone drives the same exact car.
@ohger1
@ohger1 5 лет назад
@Ga Fin I'm going to take that as a compliment!
@Jordan-Ramses
@Jordan-Ramses 5 лет назад
As a northerner i never had the slightest interest in Nascar unless the cars were going to crash into each other and catch on fire. Nascar was chasing an audience that had no interest in their product. It should have stayed a Southern thing.
@Jordan-Ramses
@Jordan-Ramses 5 лет назад
How much of Nascar's decline is the rise of the SEC in college football? They'd rather watch the Crimson Tide than Earnheart Jr.
@gutrench9489
@gutrench9489 5 лет назад
Scott Humphreys But you’re watching a video of Nascar, why engage in a conversation with a topic you have no interest in?
@gngiamei
@gngiamei 5 лет назад
@Cody Windham Yankee upstate New Yorker here there is way better Motorsports to be watching like rally watching someone take a left hand turn for the hundredth time gets kind of boring and there's even rallycross for a more fan friendly event
@ronaldreed7698
@ronaldreed7698 5 лет назад
What happened to NASCAR? Large multi team conglomerates and identical cars. People used to back the cars they drove and visa versa. The French's lost touch with the common fan, they tried to create fans from people who knew nothing about automobiles. I used to never miss a Daytona or a Sebring race, now I refuse to go. Hell with the Billionaire bastards, I don't like them, they don't like me.
@Miatacrosser
@Miatacrosser 5 лет назад
Sebring? Nascar doesn't race there.
@volsman80
@volsman80 2 года назад
Don't forget the fact that they basically neutered your most exciting tracks like Bristol, which at one point was the hardest ticket to get a hold of and kept the ticket prices the same. Taking away from the fan's excitement to cater to the sponsors and owners.
@chrisfisher1625
@chrisfisher1625 4 года назад
as a fan that got sick of nascar for about ten years, Ive recently returned on a somewhat part time basis. I am in shock to see mostly empty stands and a bunch of drivers I've never heard of. This video was very informative and jives with others ive seen on this subject.
@thundervalley9766
@thundervalley9766 5 лет назад
Cookie cutter tracks, cookie cutter cars,winning the championship after sitting out 1/3 of the year. These aren’t reasons I started as a NASCAR fan listening with my dad on the radio in the seventies when races weren’t televised. I still remember the first nationally televised flag to flag race in 79. This video is right on. I’ve gone from never missing a race to I really don’t care. Now I avoid 1 1/2 races like the plague. Rip NASCAR
@michaelpage1030
@michaelpage1030 5 лет назад
Funny the racers today & country music singers all look the same. Imagine trying to tame David Pearson for TV.
@darinmalone
@darinmalone 5 лет назад
Ted Heath You hit the nail on the head. But NASCAR doesn’t get it. The guy who made this video doesn’t get it.
@steeldriver5338
@steeldriver5338 5 лет назад
@@michaelpage1030 That's essentially anything that's mainstream nowadays. If you want the good stuff, you have to dig for it. There's still stock car racing. There's still independent country music artists that stick to the roots. Just gotta dig...
@altinfoil592
@altinfoil592 5 лет назад
This is a business school grad analysis of why Nascar is failing. Not an analysis of why the fans have tuned out. I was a die-hard fan for decades, but cannot be bothered to follow Nascar any more. For me, the reasons were: 1. Restrictor plates made a bad joke out of "racing" cars; 2, The Car of Tomorrow made a joke of "stock car" - every car was then the same except for stick-on emblems and engines. 3. Excessive macro- and micro-regulation: EVERYTHING is regulated to death - ride height, rear air-dam angle, every engine part must be pre-approved, etc., etc., etc. Creativity has disappeared in favor of bureaucracy. 4. The Chase/Playoff formula sucks. 5. The cars are so restricted and regulated that no car on a superspeedway can run outside of a pack - everything is about drafting and getting help. 3 hours of watching a traffic jam pack run around nose-to-tail in 2 lines puts me to sleep. The big excitement comes only in the last few laps when (1) The Big One crash 10 or so laps from the end takes out 1/3 of the field, and (2) the last 2 laps when intense drafting decides the race. Better to watch "Race Highlights" where you get to see The Big One and the last 2 laps - takes only 5 minutes to see all that was interesting about the race. 5. The loss of Dale Earhhardt - he was the only one who really knew how to come from last in line to win the race in the last 2 laps. Now that Dale is gone, and the other big personality racers have retired, all we are left with is group followers and nasty little shits whose racing success depends upon crashing out their competitors - they cannot beat the competition on racing speed or skill. -
@pjoka2644
@pjoka2644 5 лет назад
I couldn't agree more. Dale was the reason i watched Nascar for a large part.
@maxpayne2574
@maxpayne2574 5 лет назад
I agree with you on the intentional crashing they just follow the leader until the last lap then spin them out and win
@JOHNDOE-gl2ic
@JOHNDOE-gl2ic 5 лет назад
NHRA drag racing is dying for the same reasons.
@granddad-mv5ef
@granddad-mv5ef 5 лет назад
You make some good points, thanks for your thoughts.
@jds6206
@jds6206 5 лет назад
NASCAR is "vanilla" racing....the same stuff throughout the entire field, and it's boring.
@mrknowitallyah6058
@mrknowitallyah6058 5 лет назад
Jeff Gordon retiring killed it for me. And I simply cannot stand to look or hear from Brian France...not even for a second. He killed NASCAR for sure.
@tuftyterror983
@tuftyterror983 2 года назад
Nascar died when the playoffs came. Now it’s just a bunch of gimmicks to get. We fans that fail miserably
@SIX6SIXer
@SIX6SIXer 3 года назад
i can tell you what killed it... 1) $200 tickets+ 2) $5 sodas + 3) $9 burgers+ 4) $12 beers+ 5) $50 T-shirts+ 6) $60 hats+ _________________ UNAFFORDABLE
@roydavis9457
@roydavis9457 5 лет назад
Brain France's stupidity is what killed NASCAR.
@medionlvr
@medionlvr 5 лет назад
That's AGGRAVATED Stupidity.
@SuperNASCARrocks
@SuperNASCARrocks 6 лет назад
Brian France taking over as CEO of NASCAR in 2003 is what killed NASCAR. Not to mention the chase being implemented in 2004 and old school short track’s like north wilksboro and rockingham going away.
@basketballife5838
@basketballife5838 5 лет назад
Right thats y new Rockingham owners r redoing the track and have reached out to Nascar
@mindcrime828
@mindcrime828 5 лет назад
If the fans would have shown up to Rockingham and North Wilkesboro then they wouldn't have lost their dates. Same with Atlanta losing its 2nd date. NASCAR takes some of the blame with how they scheduled, but even when near the popularity peak, those races didn't sell out on a consistent enough basis to push for upgrading the track instead of going to new places.
@basketballife5838
@basketballife5838 5 лет назад
@@mindcrime828 partially true but nobody wants to sit in North Carolina when it's cold. A better race date could of helped out to
@basketballife5838
@basketballife5838 5 лет назад
@@mindcrime828 and at this point it would be better then pocono, Kansas, Indy, or many others
@mindcrime828
@mindcrime828 5 лет назад
@@basketballife5838 your point is valid, but if people don't show, they can't complain later when the track loses the date. Michigan often times is boring, and being Michigan the weather is always unpredictable. That hasn't stopped me from going to every race there for over 20 years now.
@schatzemanly6749
@schatzemanly6749 5 лет назад
Taking the “Stock” out of stock car racing is what is killing NASCAR. There is absolutely no semblance between what you see on the track and what you see on the street. At least the Aussies and their Super Car series is closer
@HarmonicVector
@HarmonicVector 2 года назад
2 words: The chase.
@140ex5
@140ex5 5 лет назад
It’s ironic that what attracted fans to stock car racing was its primitive beginnings and its credo of win on Sunday sell on Monday. Now cars are scientifically evolved clones of each other. Not very exciting to watch duplicates of the same car door to door lap after lap.
@johnd.1849
@johnd.1849 5 лет назад
The “Chase” is a joke. You have to practically have a mechanical engineering degree to figure out the points system. They close the smaller, but more historical tracks. They are what tie NASCAR to it’s glorious past. Imagine if Major League Baseball closed Fenway Park or Wrigley Field? They can’t even keep the name of the Championship Cup the same...Winston Cup, Nextel Cup, flavor of the month Cup may as well be
@patersonplankrd
@patersonplankrd 5 лет назад
John D. You may be looking at the LAST titled sponsor major stock car racing may ever have. Because once this contract end with Monster Energy, it is possible no other company will want to spend the money to sponsor the series. The reasons I state this are clear. The maker of this video covered many of those reasons.
@johnd.1849
@johnd.1849 5 лет назад
TheSmoothGrind : How about we go back to the system and scoring they used to have? Seemed to work well for decades. Attendance and fan interest that would put today’s numbers to shame. By the way jackhole...I have 3 college degrees including a doctorate...and you? Ya, didn’t think so
@johnd.1849
@johnd.1849 5 лет назад
TheSmoothGrind : stay classy punk
@randyjohnson7734
@randyjohnson7734 5 лет назад
Good point
@area.man.
@area.man. 5 лет назад
@@johnd.1849 Please never get cancer John D, it sucks and I would never wish for anyone to get it.
@davidhendrickson1428
@davidhendrickson1428 5 лет назад
After watching 5 decades of nascar driver itself into the hole here is what I have seen. #1. the cars. Nascar was always been the ability to go to the car dealership and buy the same car. #2. The Chase. #3. breaking up[ races into teeny tiny races and then a 10 lap shootout. #4.Living for the TV fan instead of the paying fan. #5. Restrictor plates #6. not retiring numbers like #3
@dannywestbrooks7207
@dannywestbrooks7207 4 года назад
1. Cars have changed definitely, I agree 2. NASCAR needed a new system so it could fit other sports. It isn't the best, but its what we got 3. Don't know what you mean, but if you're talking about stage racing it is different, but its lead to more entertaining racing then one long marathon imo. Also a 10 lap shootout isn't always an occurance. 4. I agree, they don't appeal to the paying fan as much as the TV fan, but right now TV is important. They can do good off that. 5. You want them cars killing people? 6. Its not up to NASCAR time retire a number, its the team owner. Childress did retire the number before his grandson got it. Which I still don't like because he doesn't deserve that number.
@mikethomas7727
@mikethomas7727 5 лет назад
Forgot the fan base that made the sport.
@TheOwl22
@TheOwl22 3 года назад
and they then killed the sport with toxicity.
@MrChristopherHaas
@MrChristopherHaas 3 года назад
Yep. The south. Watching chronologically race by race from 1949 to 1995 I noticed the fan base started dwindling when that pretty boy from California starting wining and winning along with Wallace.
@cgirl111
@cgirl111 5 лет назад
I don't want to watch 3 partial races. The whole stages and playoff thing is just stupid.
@NANAbingbangboom
@NANAbingbangboom 5 лет назад
Could not agree with you more!1
@patheticcircus3774
@patheticcircus3774 5 лет назад
cgirl111 I agree 1 million percent nascar is dead now I hate to see a caution every hundred or so I can’t believe they went to heat racing it just sucks now
@rahkinrah1963
@rahkinrah1963 5 лет назад
I used to watch a few of the races. Then came the chase.B.S. Stages? I didn't even watch the Daytona this year. Now, if I watch the road courses - it's on RU-vid. I can't stand Jeff Gordon as a commentator and got really tired of the rest of the crew too. I have better things to do on Sundays - and it ain't "stick and ball" sports. Bury it NOW!
@NANAbingbangboom
@NANAbingbangboom 5 лет назад
@@TheSmoothGrind now it does not matter who is the fastest and being at the right place at the right time is more important that's not racing!
@edwuncleriii1922
@edwuncleriii1922 5 лет назад
I like the stages because long green flag runs are boring to watch. There's no action. I just hate the whole points system, they complicated it with all this playoff points and stage points bullshit.
@davem145mxr
@davem145mxr 5 лет назад
The loss of Dale Earnhardt and the retirement of Mark Martin killed it for me
@joetexas1546
@joetexas1546 5 лет назад
David Miller so true!
@theguythehobbyshop7880
@theguythehobbyshop7880 5 лет назад
Ive been looking through the comments for over5 min and im surprised this is the only comment about dale e ive seen so far It was a tipping point for sure
@gloriaannopperman2734
@gloriaannopperman2734 Год назад
Loss of Dale Sr did it for us..we never watched again. Losing Dale was too brutal for us! Yes we are Dale Earnhardt Sr fanatics and proud of it! the Oppermans from Texas
@tracydotson6960
@tracydotson6960 4 года назад
Restrictor Plates started the downfall Dale dying finished off Nascar
@M2xim
@M2xim 4 года назад
Restrictor plates have nothing to do with the downfall of NASCAR. It bloomed under it and since they removed those in the last 2 races they were used on now even those races are boring.Now i agree with people when they say NASCAR is about running in circle. I don't know if you ever played games but just play NS2003 and NH4 back to back tell me which was more fun. The unpredictable NH2003 having you fight and sweat 2-3 wides for 200 laps and have photo finish on every freaking circuit OR NH4 and finishing 2nd with the 1st having a lap over you and the 3rd being 2 laps behind? 90-00 NASCAR about driving skills and strategy. Modern NASCAR about who's the richest prick and who have the best car. You could argue that games aren't real but since they're based on the real thing it's kindda funny that games went to shit at the same time the real thing did with the progressive removal of plates. Weird fucking coincidence. Can't watch or play a race in the modern era without falling asleep. I still enjoy watching old PLATE racing and playing them too. Plates gave us action and that's what i was looking for with NASCAR. It made oval race exciting. Without either that or having cars remotely close to being STOCK cars. NASCAR have no real purpose in life you could as well just be watching F1 because that's exactly the end game of what people like you advocate for. For some odd reason.
@crussell6533
@crussell6533 4 года назад
No. NASCAR was still good until 2009.
@Packle.
@Packle. 3 года назад
Restrictor plates started before the boom of nascars popularity.
@77Badger
@77Badger 2 года назад
It was never the same after Dale Earnhardt, Sr. and Jeff Gordon. Drivers are just not as compelling now. Bland product. Loss of the southern aspect as well. They abandoned their fan base. They also abandoned many of the tracks that had special "personality" for cookie cutter tracks. Basically inept management at the top killed NASCAR.
@homotorsports
@homotorsports 5 лет назад
Cookie cutter cars..restrictor plates...exc... it`s almost as bad as professional wrestling...They were going faster in 1970.....
@Newzchspy
@Newzchspy 5 лет назад
X2, I remember Bill and Dale in Talladega going faster than Indy and F1 cars. Those were the days. Just like the NFL is dying with so many rules about hits etc. and Drag Racing is now 1000 feet (not a 1/4 mile), so too did restrictor plates and aero rules ruin Nascar. Let em run free and fast and viewership will increase again.
@ethantaube2512
@ethantaube2512 5 лет назад
Restrictor Plates are needed to cut the horsepower down at Daytona or they would run at 230
@Newzchspy
@Newzchspy 5 лет назад
Ethan Taube 230 ?? Pfft, they’d be doing 240-250 and that’s what people want to see. Cars are too slow, races are too long. Speed em up again! It all about speed Nd wrecks! Too corporate now. People have the attention span of a gnat.
@edarmstrong9389
@edarmstrong9389 5 лет назад
@@ethantaube2512 If they are required to run stock aero packages, no way the cars will go that fast.
@wyldeshooter
@wyldeshooter 5 лет назад
And somehow that would be a bad thing???@@ethantaube2512
@IWasLikeEmilio
@IWasLikeEmilio 5 лет назад
VIARGA sponsorship really kept the sport up, strong and hard. Since they left it went down.
@kooliosis47
@kooliosis47 5 лет назад
lmao
@manuelkong10
@manuelkong10 5 лет назад
hahaha
@silvershelbygt5006
@silvershelbygt5006 5 лет назад
They stuck around for about 4 hours wasn't it?
@normcote270
@normcote270 5 лет назад
LOL!!!
@scotthummel4248
@scotthummel4248 5 лет назад
Lol
@WAL_DC-6B
@WAL_DC-6B 5 лет назад
NASCAR needs to bring back the winning 51-54 Hudson Hornets!
@Packle.
@Packle. 3 года назад
That is one of the dumbest things I have heard in this comment section.
@Ayad719
@Ayad719 3 года назад
.... uhh
@lynndragoman1573
@lynndragoman1573 5 лет назад
When they pulled it off mainstream television it was all over
@MrGbutter
@MrGbutter 5 лет назад
I totally agree, Put stock back into stock cars.
@jonnie2bad
@jonnie2bad 5 лет назад
show me 1 OEM pushrod v-8 camry, god damn it that shit pissed me off. How much did Toyota pay to be allowed to race that bullshit. I woulda let a overhead cam v-8 slide but not even that. Now the Supra has a TURBO CHARGED 3.0L V-6 it will never have a V-8 off the dealers lot. Oh yeah and it's fuel injected and not carbureted.
@virginiahoward1421
@virginiahoward1421 5 лет назад
Do you mean cheaters? From my. Experience that was every sat. night. Wake up no such thing as stock!
@jamespoteat9361
@jamespoteat9361 5 лет назад
NASCAR is ashamed of its Southern fan base.
@manuelkong10
@manuelkong10 5 лет назад
BINGO
@RLJ550
@RLJ550 5 лет назад
You mean the people who got mad because they couldn't bring their own coolers full of beer to the stadium anymore? That fanbase?
@SlickestMouthpiece
@SlickestMouthpiece 5 лет назад
Steve Jones actually it is pretty entertaining
@Cooter4
@Cooter4 5 лет назад
We Southerners MADE NAS(TOCK)C(AR)RA what it was! OK Moonshiner made NASCAR, but the South Fueled it! Grew up outside of Darlington South Carolina. We looked forward to the Labor Day Southern 500 and the Spring REBEL 400 Race, and the races in Lumberton NC. Also the Drag Racing in Darlington. Mid 80's stopped going as it was becoming to commercialized, and NOT STOCK CARS! And the STEALING OF THE SOUTHERN 500 LABOR DAY RACE ans giving (selling) it to Kommiefornia. I did out of respect for nascar by going to the last Southern 500, in name only, as was held in November 2004. It was about MONEY! Car Ad "Win on Sunday, Sell on Monday" Non-existent now as there are NO stock cars. The 2004 race was the first race attended since the 80's you couldn't tell the cars apart, plus they were only fiberglass bodies. On a side note the 2004 race was the only race I ever sat in the stands, was always in the infield.
@echt114
@echt114 5 лет назад
Bubba: The "Kommie" comment outed you as brainwashed cult trash.
@brianrogers884
@brianrogers884 4 года назад
They went stage racing and the stopped listening to fans and started listening to sponsors.
@Habit.0505
@Habit.0505 4 месяца назад
I love coming back to this video every once in a while just to see how much improvement the sport has gone through since its greatest depths. It's also just kind of funny to come back and hear "it's 2025, and the checkered flag has flown for the final time" knowing well this isn't happening anytime in the distant future lol
@michaelangelo8139
@michaelangelo8139 5 лет назад
The “ sport “ is sooooo expensive that no one can play except the very wealthy . Add that to the amount of rules and restrictions and high expense at the gate and there is your recipe for failure . Common sense .
@kevinhenry7273
@kevinhenry7273 5 лет назад
The rules use to say what you couldn't do, now they tell you what you must do. All creativity, except pushing the rules, has been removed.
@fester01
@fester01 5 лет назад
wanna save stock car racing ? make it what it used to be .. actual factory stock cars .. no mods except roll cage and plexxy glass
@Machi74005
@Machi74005 5 лет назад
Yeah, except the would be racing front wheel drive 4 bangers. Not too exciting.
@brianbirc
@brianbirc 5 лет назад
festor01 The molester? Anyway yah. Yah same with off road racing! Those desert/Baja racing Trophy Trucks are just a tubed metal frame with a fiberglass body. Why not race the trucks we drive ? A Lot of those do not drive a thousand miles without breaking. Steel is strong and ours drive many many more miles.
@cpufreak101
@cpufreak101 5 лет назад
@@Machi74005 to be honest tho that's the kind of racing i like the most, when you have cars that slow, it can actually lead to more battles and more intense driving. sure fast car races are still awesome, but there's something cool about everyday sedans being driven hard on a track
@angelgallegos199
@angelgallegos199 5 лет назад
You mean rallying? I used to like stock car but it’s boring, got into the rallying scene and it’s awesome. Car you can buy racing on regular street roads as well as off roading log tracks. Plus it feel pure and natural
@YorHighness
@YorHighness 5 лет назад
@@Machi74005 Charger hellcats, challenger hellcats, Ford Mustangs big blocks,etc arent 4 bangers but stock cars you and me can buy.
@47homeslice
@47homeslice 5 лет назад
Cookie cutter tracks killed it
@richard-bt5og
@richard-bt5og 4 года назад
Every one has the same car .And the Tracks suck
@bayareaadventures4432
@bayareaadventures4432 4 года назад
richard rohrer yeah but the big teams have cheater parts on their cars and with the fuel injection, nascar can change how fast a car will go. The playoff cars all of a sudden are the fastest by a lot. I wonder why. My friend used to work for nascar. He found out nascar controls who they want to let have the faster car. Some times Harvick, Kyle, Both Penske drivers, Elliott, Truex, or the 3 car. Its not about who is the best driver anymore.
@WhiskeyDale
@WhiskeyDale 5 лет назад
Answer: Brian France , Rule book , Kyle Busch. pretty much in that order.
@joereachor2739
@joereachor2739 5 лет назад
The problem with Kyle is he's racing in wrong decade. Always where he can cause problems and is fast. Kinda like Dale SR. 😀But not a "good ol' boy".
@someguy4027
@someguy4027 5 лет назад
Kyle Busch. Nuff said. The dude’s a douche.
@maskedtheory7251
@maskedtheory7251 5 лет назад
I mean you can complain and hate Kyle Bush all you want, but he's probably the closest thing you have to drivers back in the late 90s and early 2000s during the 'good' days of Nascar. Even with the filter placed on drivers by modern politics and media. Kyle is one of the few if not the ONLY drivers who holds a persona that we know and either love/hate.
@jimijakjones99
@jimijakjones99 5 лет назад
I don't see how Kyle Busch had hurt racing . Kyle and Kurt have both won championships like the Texas bros Terry and Bobby . Bodine bros Geoff and Brett and Todd . I always thought it was neat to see brothers in the field . Biggest thing that's hurt Nascar are the fact that it tried a little too hard to cater to the casual fan . Just like the NFL , Nascar said " Hey folks , we got our hard core fans addicted.......so lets go get them casual fans . " Stage racing is a flat out joke , it would be cool for Bristol but I hate it at the Super Speedways and 1.5 mile tracks . They took a lot of strategy away when dealing with pit stops , gas milage ( I always thought it was neat when somebody snookered the field with a gas milage strategy .........but NASCAR wants all the races to end the same way .)"
@WhiskeyDale
@WhiskeyDale 5 лет назад
@@jimijakjones99yle Busch missed 1/3 of the race season , yet NASCAR gives him a waiver so he can win the championship. That killed the sport plain and simple.
@mikesamaras4084
@mikesamaras4084 5 лет назад
NASCAR was finished when " Laughing Clown Malt Liquor" stopped being a sponsor...
@BlueJimmie48Fan
@BlueJimmie48Fan Год назад
Every year, this video is becoming more and more of a reality than a conspiracy.
@acerosstine49
@acerosstine49 Год назад
Yeah I may stop watching next year stages playoffs next gen car safety number placement wheels it’s ugly nascar ruined racing or stock car racing only series I can watch is xfinty but martinsville race made me want too stay
@Habit.0505
@Habit.0505 9 месяцев назад
No the fuck it isn't lmfao
@acerosstine49
@acerosstine49 7 месяцев назад
@@Habit.0505meanwhile I’m prob not going to watch next year
@Habit.0505
@Habit.0505 7 месяцев назад
@@acerosstine49 okay good for you?
@acerosstine49
@acerosstine49 7 месяцев назад
@@Habit.0505 I’m saying nascar is losing fans especially ppl my age
@BenMyattt
@BenMyattt 3 года назад
2019: Ratings at a all time low. 2020: Hold My Beer.
@warrenself
@warrenself Год назад
Poorly aged comment.
@jsparker77
@jsparker77 6 лет назад
Very well put. I tried to stick with NASCAR for years, and finally had enough after 2015. I was a fan for over 20 years (many of those years it was a full blown obsession), but they've grown further and further from what drew me to the sport in the first place. I still miss the hell out of what NASCAR used to be, but as much as I tried to keep giving it a chance, I finally had enough. The poor management, rising costs, constantly changing the rules for no reason other than to try something new, drivers that feel like they're just as manufactured and engineered as the cars they drive, etc. The sport feels to me like it lost every bit of soul it once had. Very sad.
@edford1693
@edford1693 5 лет назад
I was a fan from the 1970s and the final straw was when Kyke Busch "won" the championship after missing 11 races.
@michaelgreer5379
@michaelgreer5379 5 лет назад
I believe that what’s killing NASCAR more than anything else is the fact that in a country of people who drive underpowered SUVs, people can’t relate to what’s on the track. How many of us used to own cars that we’d see on NASCAR ovals - big American coupes? Those are going away and being replaced by cars that Americans don’t drive anymore. The average Camry driver isn’t going to be interested in NASCAR races, either.
@commenter6763
@commenter6763 5 лет назад
That and electric vehicles being the future. Budding technicians and engineers are probably leaning more toward electric vehicles these days than the internal combustion engine. And not so much SUVs, but most cars these days do plenty for the average person, so the "ooh and awe" of a racing car isn't there anymore.
@WhittyPics
@WhittyPics 5 лет назад
You have to be freaking kidding? The fastest Trans-AM or Corvette in the 70s was slower than the average production car today. 0-60mph in 6 seconds was fast in the 70s. Today we are in the 2s and 3s
@oafyvonskidmark316
@oafyvonskidmark316 5 лет назад
Funny thing, I had a 67 GTO with a 400 & a 4 spd and 325 hp , it did 15's in the 1/4 mile after I align bored and parallel decked the block, balanced the rotating assembly, installed 12 to 1 pistons a cam and lifters, roller rockers, headers , intake and a carb! It even got 6 mpg doing it!! My 2006 GTO with an aluminum LS2 has 400 hp , a 6 spd manual and independent rear suspension with 4 wheel discs all stock and turns high 12's low 13's all day long and gets 22 mpg doing it !
@dj-dempsey6021
@dj-dempsey6021 5 лет назад
I don't know, because GT racing and F1, whilst different formats of racing, just because people don't own a Porsche or a Ferrari doesn't mean people are gonna stop watching because they can't relate. The viewer numbers have increased this year compared to last. The racing in at Atlanta, Vegas and at Phoenix was pretty damn good to watch.
@terrybratton8635
@terrybratton8635 5 лет назад
I think you are onto something. Cars are pretty much appliances nowadays - there is no emotional cache about cars symbolizing freedom and independence like they did to baby boomers. There are prototypes afoot of autonomous air vehicles that can be summoned by iphones and shared by others in the same areas. I think most people in large population centers would be receptive to this. Totally different culture.
@donaldcary7259
@donaldcary7259 5 лет назад
I agree 100% they need to put the (Stock Car) back in racing 👍✅
@locksmithdb5987
@locksmithdb5987 4 года назад
The whole playoff thing and the stages are really confusing.
@-BigMike-
@-BigMike- 4 года назад
That's why I really quit watching. Then one day I click on the race....it say 5 laps left. Tight, close racing. Who's gonna win? 4....3....2....1.... End of stage 2. What the actual fuck. I turned it off and haven't watched a live race since. They need to pull back on this stupid shit and go back to full races. Not several heat races combined to make one race.
@themostthankfulegg9140
@themostthankfulegg9140 4 года назад
I love the fact Matt crafton won the championship without winning a race and proving how dumb those rules are
@GrandFunalleyMedia
@GrandFunalleyMedia 5 лет назад
I think the Car of Tomorrow was the killer for me. I totally stopped being interested when all cars started looking identical. Personally, I'd rather see cars run slower but with more "character."
@akutan224b
@akutan224b 5 лет назад
That what the IROC races were for.
@GrandFunalleyMedia
@GrandFunalleyMedia 5 лет назад
@@akutan224b Right. And they sucked too.
@startrek91481
@startrek91481 5 лет назад
It's boring, that's the problem. Who wants to see nearly identical cars, with drivers who have very similar skills make left turns for 200+ miles?
@maspencer6379
@maspencer6379 5 лет назад
The truth is you're not wrong Shawn. Not a lot of people are going to see the appeal in watching people drive in circles. Yes, there are people like me who enjoy the strategic parts of the races, but most other people just find it boring. NASCAR has tried to make it more down-to-the-wire, but stage racing, while interesting to the more analytical fan, doesn't make it any more exciting for anyone else.
@Xantylon74
@Xantylon74 5 лет назад
@@if6was929 Hahaha Democrat gay soyboy.
@goddessintriptych7046
@goddessintriptych7046 5 лет назад
Available alternatives. The average person has access to so much more that they could be "watching" (not to mention "doing") because of the internet. Going to the races might be a novelty for some, but seems like a waste of time to indulge regularly.
@rucarnuts13
@rucarnuts13 5 лет назад
He does have a point. I prefer watching Nascar footage from the early 80's, 70's, 60's and even the 50's because the cars you saw on track were moderately-modified production cars. Race on Sunday, sell on Monday. I want to see proper, old-school stock car racing again. Not near-identical, build-by-number rolling shells with practically identical pushrod engines that make the same noise with the only differentiating features being the different brand stickers on their noses.
@johnswaim3919
@johnswaim3919 5 лет назад
@@if6was929 Here's your tip, penis head, get woke.
@MrMiD.Life.Crisis
@MrMiD.Life.Crisis 5 лет назад
Great video man, really got me thinking. Also a quick question @ 12:30 - is there not 3 times as many races for a Cup team (incl. Allstar/duels/shootout) than there are for Indycar teams? I know that shouldnt mean 3 times the cost but it does account for a large amount of money? Hope youre good.
@GretaVanZeppelin1996
@GretaVanZeppelin1996 5 лет назад
NASCAR died on February 18, 2001 at 5:16 PM at Halifax Medical Center.
@GretaVanZeppelin1996
@GretaVanZeppelin1996 5 лет назад
@Dan Thomas The sad thing is, NASCAR remained somewhat competitive a few years following his death. It wasn't until they introduced the chase in 2005 and the COT in 2007 that the sport really began to hurt itself. I'm all for making the sport safer, mandating the Hans device was a smart move and creating the safer barrier was also smart, but they didn't need to create the joke of a car that became the COT platform. Despite saying that the Gen 6 cars are not the same cars as the Gen 5 COT, they basically are. NASCAR hasn't been truly stock since the late 1960s, so I'm alright with the Gen 4 race cars. But the Gen 5 and Gen 6, along with the chase and the predictability of the sport have really killed it. Jimmie Johnson "winning" 7 championships is what really did it for me. If they didn't have the chase format, Johnson wouldn't have won the championships that he did. He took advantage of a poor points system to win his championships. If Earnhardt raced under that system he'd have won it every single year. It became even more of a joke when one win got you locked in for the chase. Earnhardt would've really loved racing under those conditions. "Ah, all I have to do is win one, well why don't i go head and win 7. While guys just happily won 1 and got in and relaxed for the rest of the year, Earnhardt would've made sure that nobody else got in. I don't know how the system is now, I know they have stages which is stupid, just run the full race. The sport isn't the same anymore. From 1975 until 2010, the race winner was award 175 points with decreasions of 5 every spot after 1st. 2nd got 170, 3rd got 165 and so on. That is how it should be, it was a simple system and it worked for nearly 40 years. When NASCAR abolished that system then they really dug themselves in a hole. Now they have playoff elimination and it's just too much to explain, suffice to say that unless the sport makes major improvements over the course of the next five years, the sport is probably dead in the next 15. I think they need to get rid of the COT, revert back to the Latford points system and abolish the chase.
@jamescyr7643
@jamescyr7643 5 лет назад
Brian France killed NASCAR. With the Chase, to the neverending body changes, the areo packages yearly, he destroyed it. NASCAR needs to get back to it's roots. STOCK CARS!!! More short tracks. More road courses. Smaller teams. Bring back the old points system. Shit...put em on dirt twice a year! Seriously. NASCAR needs to listen to us. If us fans that care and know the sport is in trouble can't have our voice heard, NASCAR will die. I guarantee it.
@BrianSchaffer
@BrianSchaffer 5 лет назад
The chase didn't kill it considering there is no more clinching before the final race. The rest NASCAR does needs to fix.
@tjw3999
@tjw3999 5 лет назад
right what made racing so great in the early days was anyone could do it. nascar used to help local short tracks now they just let them close and people can t afford to race and lose intrest
@tjw3999
@tjw3999 5 лет назад
sure it kills it brian little teams can t even try to qualify
@fatpatlives1998
@fatpatlives1998 5 лет назад
@@BrianSchaffer I agree with this....matt Kenseth 2003 season is why the chase was created but it wasn't the reason for the lost of fans
@NANAbingbangboom
@NANAbingbangboom 5 лет назад
You fool Toyota is more American then Chevy or Ford
@billhuber2964
@billhuber2964 5 лет назад
Lack of people killed NASCAR. Greedy event organisers overpricing tickets , concessions . greed.
@goddessintriptych7046
@goddessintriptych7046 5 лет назад
not to mention, RU-vid.
@GiveMeLibertyOrGiveMeDeath147
@GiveMeLibertyOrGiveMeDeath147 5 лет назад
You failed to mention carl,jr,gordon,smoke,and kenseth all retiring within 5 years. That's when the ratings fell off. Stubborn nascar fans that refused to root for a new driver killed nascar. Although it's not dead yet,the last 2 months of racing have been some of the best I've seen in a long time. I believe it might actually be coming back.
@jhpvids
@jhpvids 4 года назад
good video and analyst of the current state of NASCAR.
@stephenmitchell3569
@stephenmitchell3569 5 лет назад
They need to go back factory bodies and allow production size Engines! Remember 427 Fords, 429 Fords, 440, also Hemi by Dodge, 427 Chevy. Changing body styles to improve the race! It's boring and team members wrecking, blocking other that are faster!
@gkiltz0
@gkiltz0 5 лет назад
They need to get past just 3 manufacturers At least bring Dodge back in BMW wouldn't hurt
@leesantos9711
@leesantos9711 5 лет назад
👍👍👍👍👍
@charlescourtwright2229
@charlescourtwright2229 5 лет назад
the reason why everyone mentions those companies is because of the fact that Chevy, Dodge and Ford were THE American car brands
@leesantos9711
@leesantos9711 5 лет назад
@@charlescourtwright2229 American Muscle! 👍👍👍👍👍
@gkiltz0
@gkiltz0 5 лет назад
Last I hear Dodge wanted to be there but didn't think they could accomplish anything with just one or two car owners. Until they can get at least 3 or 4 cars in the starting grid, they are not willing to make the commitment. Bill France is not sure there is support among owners for a fourth manufacturer
@lynndragoman2454
@lynndragoman2454 5 лет назад
When they took it off of main stream television and put it half here and half there it was all over
@CoasterMan13Official
@CoasterMan13Official 3 года назад
That's what truly killed it.
@thegreenbird795
@thegreenbird795 2 года назад
i think one thing that killed NASCAR is that people don't drive cars anymore...They drive trucks and SUV's...
@jonjones8865
@jonjones8865 4 года назад
I loved Nascar more than everything what made me change they made too many changes restrictor plates Toyota got involved and the stage racing was the Killer. I used to watch the race on TV every weekend I went to the track once or twice a year now I'm done no fun
@bboysfanatic
@bboysfanatic 5 лет назад
Easy....they aren't racing "stock" cars. Not one Nascar shared any parts with road cars.
@somedude4774
@somedude4774 5 лет назад
There are actually People who think NASCAR race cars are the same cars You can buy off the dealer's showrooms with roll cages added, shows You how ignorant People are about cars today.
@edgarmcbee2474
@edgarmcbee2474 5 лет назад
When it first started they were really close more than they are now not sure what a engine cost now but its definitely more than a person with a regular job could afford
@csmlyly5736
@csmlyly5736 5 лет назад
Not to mention the crowd of "me want to go fast and cum into tailpipe" crowd is aging out and dying away, thank God. The mature people buying cars today just want to get to work and back and stay alive. NASCAR and any car related to it are not interesting to most people. The cars are completely irrelevant to most people's lives and a desire to race them around even more so.
@fhuber7507
@fhuber7507 5 лет назад
When it started... one driver went into a showroom, bought a car, did minor stuff to it and raced it that weekend. I remember in the 1970's they had to have a certain number of production cars sold with the exact engine used for racing. Buick/Chevrolet got mad at Pontiac because Pontiac put their name into the molds for one variation of the heads for the engine and thus Buick and Chevrolet could not use those heads for racing. My parents bought a Buick and every time they took it in for an oil change all of the mechanics gathered to look under the hood. We found out it was one of the NASCAR qualifying engines, randomly put in that car on the assembly line. 12 years later when I rebuilt it, getting parts was a pain because NOTHING for the standard version block fit. Different crank so different crank bearings, Different camshaft, different lifters, different oil pump, different fuel pump, different carb so I had to go to a racing shop to get the carb rebuild parts...
@edreed5571
@edreed5571 5 лет назад
Clinton takes it in the ass in a prius
@MrMakemyday3
@MrMakemyday3 5 лет назад
STAGE RACING is a damned joke.
@acenace24
@acenace24 5 лет назад
Stage racing is what they created so Nascar doesn't have to throw as many phantom cautions. Either way both are stupid.
@kateofone
@kateofone 5 лет назад
No literally stage racing is what killed it for me. I actually liked the lucky dog, it made it interesting. Then they had to make the green white checkered and stages along with yellow flags to refuel. UGHHHH
@mariagomez5030
@mariagomez5030 5 лет назад
I SERIOUSLY Know Right?.
@fumedrummer
@fumedrummer 5 лет назад
I say: Change stage racing to heats. First heat: 20 cars. Second heat: another 20 cars. Third heat: Top 10 from stages 1 and 2. This would make the tiny tracks like Bristol and Martinsville a lot more fun to watch... and the pit roads won't have to wrap around the whole track.
@kateofone
@kateofone 5 лет назад
@@fumedrummer No no no, just have 43 drivers race. No segments, heats or cautions to refuel. Just good racing.
@haroldthefrog
@haroldthefrog 5 лет назад
What song is in the background? Sounds like Priest
@slotcarcrazy
@slotcarcrazy 5 лет назад
we need to start sharing these kind of videos to NASCAR and never stop sending them until they finally listen to the fans that have been involved it this sport since the 80s and 90s, the hardcore NASCAR fan
@fw1421
@fw1421 5 лет назад
NASCAR was so much better when it wasn’t so regulated. When they made the cars all the same it was another nail in the coffin. Greed also has ruined it,too much money is a problem. Then there’s the constant changing of the rules and point system.
@VGF80
@VGF80 5 лет назад
Then how does that explain the gen 3 and gen 4 cars?
@tonytackett3843
@tonytackett3843 5 лет назад
Disrespect of veteran drivers to bring in young fans with young drivers did it for me. Cheat for the selected young drivers.
@MikeFuryTech
@MikeFuryTech 5 лет назад
What crash in 2008 are you referring to?
@RJARRRPCGP
@RJARRRPCGP 4 года назад
Mike Fury Tech Well, 2008 was the year with the highest gas prices I recorded in Vermont and that probably was the case for the remaining northeast states. The most noticeable problem of 2008, were gas and oil prices. 2012 was almost as bad.
@elviscobb5922
@elviscobb5922 4 года назад
I agree the business model is surely harming NASCAR, having said that I really hope NASCAR can find a way to continue.I am still fan.
@raymondeldridge6068
@raymondeldridge6068 5 лет назад
Needs to get back it roots and use factory bodies
@brianbirc
@brianbirc 5 лет назад
Raymond Eldridge Yah same with off road racing! Those desert/Baja racing Trophy Trucks are just a tubed metal frame with a fiberglass body. Why not race the trucks we drive ? A Lot of those do not drive a thousand miles without breaking. Steel is strong!!
@cpufreak101
@cpufreak101 5 лет назад
@Jim Watson fun fact, Ford just came out with a new 7.3L OHV "big block" V8 for their 2020 pickup lineup, imagine using some of those motors for racing
@duanemitchell6299
@duanemitchell6299 5 лет назад
A Toyota Camry with the number 3 on the side...
@WhereWingsTakeDream
@WhereWingsTakeDream 5 лет назад
Yep!
@audleyboyd1
@audleyboyd1 5 лет назад
Be American buy American
@georgedz302
@georgedz302 5 лет назад
Duane Mitchell - #rememberpearlharbor
@logpile1318
@logpile1318 5 лет назад
Chris Boyd what's American anymore? Even Harley's outsource a lot of their production parts to other countries.
@bradrieck3303
@bradrieck3303 5 лет назад
@@georgedz302 Exactly! I'm glad to see someone else reciting my line.
@ryanewbank9271
@ryanewbank9271 5 лет назад
I left nascar when the mandated restrictor plates and started making all the cars the same..if i wanted to watch Iroc racing...ect. im just suprised it lasted this long. Salute to all the real drivers, Earnhardt, Allison, yarborough, Petty. You know, the real racers
@FrannyWard
@FrannyWard 5 лет назад
Dave Marcis, Buddy Baker,Cale Yarborough, David Pearson, Richard Petty, Ricky Rudd, Darrell Waltrip, and yes, even Janet Guthrie. These racers were the ones I watched and followed. Back when the Winston Cup existed, back when real stock cars existed. Skoal Brother!
@robertnunn497
@robertnunn497 5 лет назад
Yep, when my favorite racer retired, Ricky Rudd, I lost interest in NASCAR . Gave up my season tix and probably haven't watched but maybe a couple races since then
@David-oz6dz
@David-oz6dz 5 лет назад
The answer is really simple Brian France!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@jbond4078
@jbond4078 5 лет назад
answer is money hungry
@rogermay5093
@rogermay5093 5 лет назад
There are "car" people and not car people. These days there are fewer and fewer car people. A car today to most younger people is nothing more than an appliance such as a toaster.
@johnz8210
@johnz8210 5 лет назад
That's the bottom line. Perfect reply. All the other problems stem from that.
@dooley1230
@dooley1230 5 лет назад
Cars today are nothing more than appliances.
@brianbrown212
@brianbrown212 5 лет назад
Andrew M Overpriced appliances
@leeblackwolf3158
@leeblackwolf3158 5 лет назад
That's not completely true there are us car enthusiast that love our car as a piece of ourselves, from mustangs to gtrs, eclipses, camaros, challengers, supras, and so on not all of us nessessarly street racers but all of us share our love for our cars, but I am not gonna disagree with you there has been a serious decline in people wanting a car for what it needs to be they buy it for day to day use nothing more. Hell barely anyone is buying manuals anymore and even the car industry knows that and they've been selling way more automatics and sadly this generation is so fucked up beyond repair I dont know if the car world will fight back with any strength left because of even the car industry's taking small down falls of there cars. For example the eclipse no longer being a sports coupe but a fucking SUV crossover, evos discontinued, making lambos into SUVs and camaros these days aren't event selling that well so far our only hope is ford and dodge with the mustang and challenger.
@bhuff4748
@bhuff4748 5 лет назад
100% exactly right.. it used to be that people watched because they could work on cars, loved cars, or they pulled for a manufacturer. You don't have that at all anymore. People just don't have that interest and cars don't mean anything to them...just a necessity.
@illuminati8181
@illuminati8181 Год назад
Good-bye Nascar. Hello Life.
@jollyjakelovell4787
@jollyjakelovell4787 5 лет назад
I commend you for the acoustic Rob Halford singing Joan Baez as your music bed.
@rob70042
@rob70042 5 лет назад
the death of Dale Earnhardt was the start of the death of nascar, followed by too many changes to fast. the loss of Winston cup just to please the "PC" morons, cookie cutter tracks and drivers. NASCAR BODIES .theirs a lot more also but im drunk and dont want to type anymore. one more thing historically when the kids take over the business is the downfall of the business
@akutan224b
@akutan224b 5 лет назад
Cant wait for the Nancy Poloci 500. Some sports are meant to be regional.
@rob70042
@rob70042 5 лет назад
auto racing is everywhere
@joetexas1546
@joetexas1546 5 лет назад
Leonard Burnett Pelosi 500-constant Left Turns😁
@manuelkong10
@manuelkong10 5 лет назад
I think you're right about Dale
@respo8
@respo8 5 лет назад
BINGO!!!! Earnhardt's death absolutely was the beginning of the end for Nascar.
@LeStraTele
@LeStraTele 5 лет назад
Ticket prices are out of control too.
@88fanforlife
@88fanforlife 5 лет назад
LeStraTele not necessarily you just gotta do a little searching. Last 2 years I went to Fontana buying the Chase Elliott Q&A package which has a ticket for both xfinity and cup and totals to $70.
@johnj.baranski6553
@johnj.baranski6553 4 года назад
Pretty reasonable at Martinsville
@Inseparable724365
@Inseparable724365 2 года назад
NASCAR was killed by the Sports network, I was a NASCAR fan since the 60's. But once they took most of the races off regular TV I lost interest...
@charleslowe2095
@charleslowe2095 3 года назад
If nascar doesn't get rid of the 550 hp high down force package nascar will die,I rarely watch it anymore.
@duradim1
@duradim1 5 лет назад
I lost interest in NASCAR when they made the cars the same.
@Stevonoles1
@Stevonoles1 5 лет назад
Born and raised in the Daytona Area. Loved NASCAR since the day I was born. My list of what is killing NASCAR not in specific order. 1.5 mile speedways that are almost exactly alike, Car of tomorrow, ticket prices, concession stand pricing, Danica Patrick, Jimmie Johnson winning 5 or 6 championships in a row, Toyota, Death of Alan Kulwicki, Davey Allison, Dale Earnhardt, Adam Petty and a few others, removal of Rockingham, North Wilksboro from schedule, repaving and design of Bristol, Loss of Dodge, the retirement of Dale Jr., Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart, Matt Kenseth, and Carl Edwards all around the same time, Brian France, Kyle Busch, Nextel telling NASCAR no other phone sponsorships on any cars, lucky dog, not racing to the yellow, too many commercials, paint schemes on cars change from week to week and you can't tell who your driver is. People including myself do not care for restrictor plates but these are the best races of the year to watch. People forget about Awesome Bill being up 6 laps in the 80s and the entire field strung out. It was terrible. Bring back the stock look and let whoever shows up with the best stuff win. Making Robert Yates share his Head design with all Ford teams? Come on! He was a genius and they took that from him. God love him, but get Darrell to stop the boogity boogity sh*t. Plain vanilla drivers who have zero personality, do not care one bit about the fans, and are just there to turn laps and get paid. I truly hope they can fix it, but it would require a complete restructuring of the sport. I am sure I have forgotten a few things, such as racing cars that are 4 door sedans on the street. That is not a race car. Going with Camaro and mustang will hopefully help. Not sure if they make a 2 door Camry. And finally, what Tony Stewart got away with is deplorable.
@Minnesota.Highlander
@Minnesota.Highlander 5 лет назад
We should talk. Thank you for sharing. If you really want to know, here is the guy to ask! No bullshit twitter.com/TheIntimidator6
@Everythingisgoingtobealright
@Everythingisgoingtobealright 5 лет назад
Damn, you know your shit.
@mrc.9702
@mrc.9702 5 лет назад
Toyota out Dodge back in would help, going back to smaller tracks too.
@DevBizkit
@DevBizkit 5 лет назад
agreed and i add that sponsors also can spend minimal for social media marketing compared to plastering a car that will air on a restricted cable station.
@mikep4823
@mikep4823 5 лет назад
Basically what i was going to say but you hit it on the head. The old days are gone and i would bet the farm never will they listen to the little guy sitting in the stands. The best racing will always be where all this started is the local dirt oval tracks that guys are actually doing their best to stay on top and not a damn Hollywood Days of Thunder movie. After Dale SR passed it hurt bad but then Adam was the final draw i never watched another race after. These super speedways killed the sport. Nobody wants to watch their favorite driver tumble for thousands of feet wondering if he will ever walk again. Long live the small tight racing tracks.
@TheyWantMeGone69
@TheyWantMeGone69 5 лет назад
I watched a lot of early to mid 2000s races growing up. I've never really seen 90s NASCAR races. But it sounds like it was a lot better back then.
@robh6638
@robh6638 4 года назад
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