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What makes cycloidal gearboxes so amazing? 

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I discovered something really interesting about cycloidal gear drives that I did not expect! In this video, I use a 3D printed gearbox to demonstrate just a few of the reasons why cycloidal gearboxes are so useful.
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@smellycat249
@smellycat249 11 месяцев назад
A cycloidal gear drive CAN be back driven. Yours was just not smooth enough to allow for the motion.
@GregorShapiro
@GregorShapiro 11 месяцев назад
If the tolerances are fine enough and the surfaces of the right shape and surface fineness a cycloidal drive can be back driven. The (usually) high reduction of cycloidal gearsets makes for a high loss of torque and thus difficulty in back driving them. The fact that all *teeth* are in rolling contact with their counterparts means that a MUCH larger torque can be transmitted and the risk of shearing off a tooth on a pinion or bull gear disappears.
@kindaovermyhead
@kindaovermyhead 11 месяцев назад
He also was not going to get enough torque by hand with that small shaft
@isaacnichols12
@isaacnichols12 3 месяца назад
Great content
@Engineezy
@Engineezy 11 месяцев назад
Awesome video! Excited to see it connected to a drill 🙌
@brettfafata3017
@brettfafata3017 11 месяцев назад
Have you shared these files anywhere? I would love to print one myself!
@XInfinity2024
@XInfinity2024 11 месяцев назад
Good video. You should combine this print with the World's biggest gear ratio... video and tweak it and see if you can spin it and how many gears it will work with
@LovesM855A1
@LovesM855A1 11 месяцев назад
A oil control gear for a mustang looks very similar minus the strap on top etc… Coyooooooooooote baby!!
@ralphmueller3725
@ralphmueller3725 7 месяцев назад
I wonder if a cycloidal engine would be possible? think like a rotary but using the action of the cycloidal interface as the engine rotor.
@ShawnColeman01
@ShawnColeman01 10 месяцев назад
Using this with steel encased with oil at higher RPM: Handheld? Vibration monster with some heavy waddle with the rpm ramp-up. Fixed machine - Very nice aside from that it's a Friction monster regarding sliding-friction (where it sort of slides at the apexes pointing inward from the orange gear), if it's smooth it will work nice, but the sliding-friction will create a lot of heat. Dirt & Grime: since the apexes of the blue gear seems to "press" into the wells of the orange gear, dirt and grime could cause incremental damage which would seize the system very shortly after first detection of any irregularity. Using pristine and pure material and-of utmost exquisite part-precision and lubrication you can have a very small high torque gearbox that WILL in fact last a very long time. Yet still, after the first detection of any irregularity, you will have a failing system in no time. It's very delicate, but still if you want very nice things you need to be prepared to lose them easily. This also seems ridiculously easy to replace, lots of replacements won't be a hassle in most machines and devices, the cost for this even with the best of everything you can get will still cost significantly less if you desire keeping spares and have the will to replace them when needed so.
@christianbureau6732
@christianbureau6732 6 месяцев назад
Thanks
@recepkaraman6327
@recepkaraman6327 5 месяцев назад
Hello, did you share the cad files of the cycloid reducer in the video anywhere?
@antoniodomit2782
@antoniodomit2782 3 месяца назад
Is there a way to have your files to 3d print the drive? or can I buy one from you?. Thank you Antonio Domit
@Xubor
@Xubor 8 месяцев назад
I think why people rather use planetary gears is because they don't create an unbalance.
@eduardoschroeder8502
@eduardoschroeder8502 11 месяцев назад
I have a doubt, on my project i was using planetary gears to make a reduction of 64:1, but the high RPM and friction kept destroying the teeth. Would a cycloidal gearbox be a good option? Nice video btw
@3DPrinterAcademy
@3DPrinterAcademy 10 месяцев назад
potentially. the load is distributed
@rollin3480
@rollin3480 10 месяцев назад
Lubricant it 🤣
@SilentShiba
@SilentShiba 11 месяцев назад
How do 3D printed Cycloidal gearboxes hold up to wear versus planetary? I want to start getting into designs involving motors and rotation, but I want to stick to one dominant gearbox strategy to start, I I prioritize ease of printing and reliability.
@conorstewart2214
@conorstewart2214 11 месяцев назад
What ever you go for using some form of lubrication is always a good idea. I started with jus a compound spur gear, gear train and it worked well enough, especially with nylon and lithium grease. Then I tried a planetary gearbox and it worked well too, albeit being more difficult to assemble (part of that was just my design). I haven’t tried cycloidal yet, but I plan on doing it. You should just experiment and try a few, just small scale ones with small motors and see which ones work best for you, with all the gear generators you can get now it really isn’t that difficult to design them. You should also experiment with different gear profiles like helical or herringbone. Also when printing gears do it on rafts, any elephants foot could cause the gears to mesh incorrectly and may lead to excess friction or the gearbox just not working. I prefer printing gears with a 0.25 mm nozzle but 0.4 mm does work too, you just won’t be able to make gears quite as small.
@SilentShiba
@SilentShiba 11 месяцев назад
@@conorstewart2214 Excellent advice, thanks for typing that out for me
@HoodyKid100
@HoodyKid100 11 месяцев назад
Strain wave next
@MrArtimus1961
@MrArtimus1961 11 месяцев назад
Very simular to how an oil pump works in a vehicle.
@AlexDaDermahurr
@AlexDaDermahurr 11 месяцев назад
Its also close In function to a rotary engine
@GregorShapiro
@GregorShapiro 11 месяцев назад
Not at all. This is rotational speed reduction. Not fluid pumping. (though the internals do have some visual similarities).
@BenSmith0
@BenSmith0 3 месяца назад
Cycloidal drives CAN be back-driven, as long as you don't weld the output shaft in place.
@marcosmark3007
@marcosmark3007 8 месяцев назад
tanks, i send my LIKE!!!, maybe can share the stl?, thanks
@TheMoody876
@TheMoody876 11 месяцев назад
Looks like the inside to a ls engine oil pump
@peterg902
@peterg902 Месяц назад
Any fusion downloadable files so kids can play with it?
@wowgggearing
@wowgggearing 11 месяцев назад
friction between blue gear & white shaft??
@conorstewart2214
@conorstewart2214 11 месяцев назад
There will be some. If the tolerance isn’t too tight then it won’t be an issue. Often people put a bearing in there and between the yellow piece and blue piece to help reduce friction. When you make any gearbox to actually use you should lubricate it and with 3D printing the gearbox will probably need to be “broken in”, just run it until it gets smoother.
@peternickerson2911
@peternickerson2911 11 месяцев назад
I think this is very cool, however, there a very many drawbacks to cycloidal gearboxes with the biggest being manufacturing as well as vibrations. Do to all the rubbing that occurs they easily generate rough vibrations which is unacceptable in profession machinery. When it comes to manufacturing the process to mass produce gearboxes. A standard gear is very easy to manufacture, however a cycloidal gear requires a milling machine. This is okay for special cases but their is a reason why you rarely see cycloidal gear drives mass produced. (Also cycloidal gearboxes can be back driven)
@conorstewart2214
@conorstewart2214 11 месяцев назад
I think you mean precision machinery, not professional machinery. Standard spur gears often require milling to create them as well, especially if they need to be precise.
@Eric-lj8sw
@Eric-lj8sw 22 часа назад
Vibration can be reduced with a second set out of phase.
@McRootbeer
@McRootbeer 11 месяцев назад
It would be cool to see a backdriveable/reversible cycloidal gearbox. And am I crazy or does this look like it could be turned into an electric motor?
@peternickerson2911
@peternickerson2911 11 месяцев назад
your crazy. This is a gear box, not an alternator or generator.
@MyHandleIsGood
@MyHandleIsGood 11 месяцев назад
Could be attached to a motor in a fairly compact package, especially for the reduction. However, this is not, and never will be, a motor.
@GregorShapiro
@GregorShapiro 11 месяцев назад
A well made cycloidal gear IS back drivable. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pn7XzPfCTxA.html
@king_james_official
@king_james_official 11 месяцев назад
wdym turned into a motor lol
@DoIGetTube
@DoIGetTube 11 месяцев назад
Wondering whether the German engineer Herr Doktor Felix Wankel drew upon that principle to design his now legendary rotary internal combustion engine cannot be helped.
@DoIGetTube
@DoIGetTube 11 месяцев назад
Nippon's Mazda Motors had employed the said engine in its RX series of motor cars for decades, and as of this response's time stamp date, it most likely still did.
@olegallito5742
@olegallito5742 10 месяцев назад
>it can't be back driven Nah, it's just the 1:8 ratio, pal. Add a handle, lube the thing up and try just a bit harder.
@frenchperformer5401
@frenchperformer5401 11 месяцев назад
G R E A S E
@thomasthemtman
@thomasthemtman 11 месяцев назад
Seems like a ton of friction though 🤔
@designsforge4153
@designsforge4153 3 месяца назад
Isn't that where the torque comes from?
@-rakie-
@-rakie- 11 месяцев назад
Gears
@jackb3822
@jackb3822 11 месяцев назад
Yes
@markbailey5393
@markbailey5393 11 месяцев назад
Yes
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 10 месяцев назад
To those who can’t afford Fusion 360
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 10 месяцев назад
(and it is pretty pricey):
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 10 месяцев назад
look at Fr
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 10 месяцев назад
eeCAD.
@fasthelpru
@fasthelpru 11 месяцев назад
Если он сделал ручку чтобы вращать, зачем вращал рукой? Бесит.
@NikolajLepka
@NikolajLepka 2 месяца назад
SO much friction in this design
@mee6helpcenter909
@mee6helpcenter909 11 месяцев назад
Bean
@leancrafter
@leancrafter 11 месяцев назад
Bean
@peternickerson2911
@peternickerson2911 11 месяцев назад
Bean
@JohnJaggerJack
@JohnJaggerJack 11 месяцев назад
The fact that thing is over complicated and frail, when one could achieve the same result with a much more simple geneva mechanism....
@TundeEszlari
@TundeEszlari 11 месяцев назад
I love your contents, can I get a comment heart?
@soyunknown569
@soyunknown569 11 месяцев назад
No
@peternickerson2911
@peternickerson2911 11 месяцев назад
I gave you a dislike instead
@recepkaraman6327
@recepkaraman6327 5 месяцев назад
Hello, did you share the cad files of the cycloid reducer in the video anywhere?
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