What Makes This Song Great? "Before I Forget" SLIPKNOT 

Open mindness!!! Yeah❣️

Waiting for the Portishead and Massive Attack episodes

When you break down a song like this, like Rick has you can hear just how much complexity there is in it and how much work has gone in to it. No one who understands it could ever look down on it as lesser music.

@@2secondslater Any track from "Dummy" would be incredible.

@@2secondslater Or anything trip-hop related. God how I miss living in the South-West.

The faces too! 😂

Yep. It's what keeps me watching his pure joy for music

Very needed on a day like today

Whoooo! , Yeah totally.

Best air drummer ever!

It's a great song, my hang-up these days are the structures and riffs are pretty predictable and the guitar tones are all the same. Great songwriting by a great band, but I've been exploring some other things off the beaten path.

Well technically all music is just noise. So when people pull that argument I call bs lmao.

people that call metal 'just noise' are usually ones listening to shitty pop and mainstream pseudo-rap, don't expect such people to appreciate musical skill

"Musical brawl" -- now I get it. _Now_ , I get it. Thank you!

I live listen to metal thru shitty speakers bc it does sound like noise Bahaha

NIKNOC MERCH ;LKASJDFPAJSDKLFASDFKASDFLKASDFASDF here's the video.

Right?

It makes me smile playing those individual sections

Yeah, it was weird hearing aspects of the song I couldnt hear before, or didnt realize was there and cant unhear them

Another Nik?

agreed, fascinating

True. i'm not able to understand how complex those songs are by regular listening, there's a lot going on.

How can you celebrate a satanic bunch of morons. All they do with them so-called music is promote death and destruction. In the drummer really killed Jesus Christ with the makeup and the nonsense he decided to wear. How could you even think about celebrating a band like that. If they were ridiculing any other religion. That just wouldn't be tolerated among anybody. If it's Christianity no one seems to care.

@@johnburris605can you please go out of the 60's?

@@raphaelbiazotto what is that supposed to mean ?can I please go out of the '60s

When I was in my 20s I had a friend who was in his 40s from the lockup next to our rehearsal room and he would always notice details in the modern metal we played and other stuff we introduced him to. He had a beautiful appreciation for music and was always fascinated by new things. I learned a lot from chilling with him and talking music all night.

loved it!

There's a lot of 'Hendrix style' playing in Pearl Jam's music. I especially hear it in the guitars.

sus

When he isolates the drums, sounds just like the beginning of 'Why Go' by Pearl Jam. Awesome

I wish to be "dad listening to Slipknot explaining why it's the best thing ever" one day

We are all doing exactly that. This song is 16 years old. This is not contemporary music anymore. Don't kid yourselves, you are listening to a classic.

@@zach_attakk I am a dad, who explains why Slipknot is the best thing ever haha, saw them live with Joey at Mayhem fest in 08', awesome show

@@brly4542 Your life is complete. What else could you possibly hope to achieve in life?

@@brly4542 Spot on my friend. I'm a dad and my son loves all the cool stuff like Slipknot, Architects, Lamb of God, Slayer, Sylosis, Alter Bridge, basically all metal.🤘

We all love Rick

Thank god for Rick Beato

Joey was a great drummer. A lot of "cooler than you" drummer forum types (who, i am 99% sure could not play 10% of the stuff he did) would slate him for being clichéd, without realising that he was pretty much the guy who popularised that style of drumming. Also, as Rick points out, his playing more depth than people give him credit for. RIP Joey, such a shame you didn't get to make more music.

Joey jordison: LEGEND

This song is a masterpiece. No other way to put it.

i whole heartedly disagree.. 100% disagree. Could not disagree more in fact. NO ONE, AS IN NOBODY, UNDERESTIMATED THEIR TALENT. it has been fully appreciated my dude. Furthermore, Vol. 3 is "rated" exactly where its suppose to be, ie on TOP.

Their second best album behind Iowa imo

is it underrated? it's always been my favourite slipknots album

It's my favourite Slipknot album

They're doing something rather curious with the parts of the body.. In a way we don't fully understand (12x) CARVE

Same man!. It's interesting once you hear the isolates tracks and things pointed out by an engineer.

I don‘t expect that it needs Rick to make me a bigger fan of the song I was already 😂

Amazing isn't it? Had it with so many of his episodes now. Little sounds here and there thar sound so obvious when pointed out but blend in so perfectly they're almost imperceptible.

Totally agree! I've got goosebumps even though I've already listened this song a million times, included some live performances in the last 15th years!

Same here - but this episode might turn me. 💣

Agreed!

Slipknot almost never causes a good 1st impression, because of how heavy, chaotic, sinister and weird their songs are, and, obviously, their visuals LMAO.. The mix of It all makes almost every single new listener think that they kinda workship the Devil or any other evil/bad thing.. when i first heard and saw them i felt that something bad was going to happen to me or to someone i love If i kept listening to that.. i immediatelly closed the vídeo i was watching.. It took me like, 20 seconds at max to close It. But maaan, If you surpass that initial impression, and PAY CLOSE ATTENTION, you'll probably notice that you just discovered a phenomenom of a band. It's not that commom people liking them on their first time listening to It.. a Lot of people, like myself, had to literally LEARN how to enjoy Slipknot... the velocity, weirdness and heavyness of their songs create a sonic chaos that a LOT of brains (even rockers) need to learn how to situate themselves when listening to It. Wanna know what made me forget about the bizarre 1st impression i had of them? Just start listening to Psychosocial (álbum/Videoclip version), and keep going until the 1st chorus hits.. i couldn't believe what i was listening.. the song was so fckng heavy and dark, and punchy, with literally the voice of the devil himself singing like If he was mad at me, then all of a sudden an AMAZING voice cut's though singing an ABSURDLY catchy Melody, mixing perfectly with everything Else, while the intensity never went down... I mean.. want to know How good Slipknot is? Look at ANY Rick's previous vids, from any time, and find a single vídeo showing Rick rocking/headbanging and going like "Woooohhooo" 20ish times like he did on this one. LMAO. Another thing.. they got famous playing heavy and weird stuff by choice, because they are not good only in that type of music.. If they wanted, they could EASILY get as famous as they got by creating songs that are more 'radio / comercial friendly songs.. and that How good and dynamic they are. Slipknot - Vermillion part 2 Slipknot - Snuff These 2 songs are SLOW, kinda acoustic style.. it's even hard to believe that you're listening to Slipknot when listening to these 2.. because it's so slow, and beautiful.

🎯

100%

I've never heard it until now 😭

Slipknot depends on such details quite a lot. turntable, various percussion like beer keg. You can't really hear them, but it is noticeable when missing

+, I wish they'd make a medley version of "Before I Forget" because all sub-tracks would shine there. It would span to 9 minutes of greatness...

A very astute as succinct observation. I was just starting middleschool when I became a slipknot fan. I think Vol. 3 dropped during my 9th grade year? Give or take. And it does bring me back to that era. It was a great time to be young for so many of those great nu-metal and massachusetts metal and "new American heavy metal" and black metal and death metal records... ah. The memories.

Well said. Very true

The bridge part "My end, it justifies my means..." slams me back in 2004 and the early/mid 2000s so quick. It's a huge nostalgia and dopamine hit. I was 20 and it was a good year.

Slipknot is certainly one of the most unique metal bands ever, if not the most unique period. When I started listening to metal as a teenager, as soon as I heard Slipknot, it just felt different from any other metal band, and this was before I even knew they wore masks and stuff. What's great is that even if you only hear their music and know nothing else, you can tell this band is something else.

@@RedrumVideos They certainly have a way of making extremely nihilistic, violent and aggressive sounding music mixed seamlessly with big, catchy anthemic choruses. And they also have some really beautiful and haunting songs. A few on this very album, Vol.3, like Vermillion.

Savant

Ah ok Rick makes my point at 16:30 🤣

Very well said.

If you enjoy the production here you might enjoy a few of slipknot's other less heavy songs. Spiders is great, alongside My Pain. Snuff is up there for me, and Killpop as well.

Really? Then you'll love my stuff then.

seems to me, that you are a fan of the genre lol

Holy crap, same here. I hadn't heard this song until GH3 and I loved this song from that. I also loved Stricken by Disturbed in that game.

@@stevekjr9563 GH3 almost single-handedly got me into metal. Absolutely killer list of songs.

@@theroflraptor Same. :)

@@theroflraptor Same. The people who picked the track list for GH3 shaped the music taste of so many people

Same🤘

Sometimes the sum is overwhelming, (especially when everyone is going balls to the wall)!! When Rick breaks down the individual parts, and you hear it that way, it is easier to appreciate it altogether! Few people can do this in their heads! If they do, it is only on a subconscious level!

I understand your point, BUT... if the result is unappealing, grating, loud noise, who gives a fuck? The vocals are hideous, and the combined noise allotment from the instruments just gives me a migraine.

wrong song for this comment tbh

@@comfortat, lmao normie

@@comfortat some people like grating loud noise, confrontational instrumentation that demand their attention. so i give a fuck. this isn't music meant to lull you into sleep.

Most of the dudes that were in the metal scene back in the 90s and early 2000s have grandkids now. Let that sink in lol. My dads almost 50 and still loves metal

I think he is 50 not 60 so dunno if he will enjoy this comment hehe

@@JayBaggio He isn't 50, I believe he is 61 (but looks damn good for his age)

Hoping Tool is up next. Any song will do! 🤘

@@donwoodward7944 check out episodes 15 & 41 ;-)

Yeah Tool is pretty well-represented in WMTSG, as they should be.

This song is a straight masterpiece

Joey: LEGEND

Right there with ya. Raised on country and found them in late ‘99. I had a coworker a few years ago that had written em off because his brother listened to them, and he just thought it was incoherent noise. I had him listen to some of their less heard songs from all albums, live Iowa music videos, and really dove into the lyrics with him and what it all meant to me growing in my teen years. Their latest album came out and I was taken back when I came in and he’s slamming to ‘Not Long For This World’! Dude’s hooked now 😆

Bands with a visual gimmick always get crapped on. KISS, Manson, Alice Cooper, mudvayne, gwar are all, at the least, enjoyable and alot are really high level musicianship.

@@zapa47 Agreed!

@@zapa47 all of them but Rammstein lol

@@zapa47 tbf kiss deserve it

Never realized a piano was used in this song but now i cant help hearing it everytime that part comes😅

Can YOU do Psychosocial? Oh wait, you just did 👍

Or Sulfur ☺️

Awesome to see you check out Rick.

Just a heads up, Psychosocial is in drop A, Rick. ;)

They're doing something rather curious with the parts of the body.. In a way we don't fully understand (12x) CARVE

Yes.

was basically what got me into slipknot. the guitar was and still is my instrument, but that drum line in wait and bleed was even more pissed and well writen than the already masterful layering of the guitars. Jordisson's drums could not only sound pissed off, but super technical and sloppy at the same time, which sounded super cool.

Rick Beato. The Anthony Bourdain of music.

Couldn't have said it better. Thank you for pointing it out.

🔥🤣

(Wings/sequined bath robe)

LOL

FR

They're doing something rather curious with the parts of the body.. In a way we don't fully understand (12x) carve

lol very good

@@Tizohip. gut-tar.!! animal-gut strings=GUITAR.!

That’s what I meant to say. “Naturally anxious”. Brilliant.

That's been my reaction for 20 years. Meth Kiss is a bit much for some..

Doesn’t Craig play the keyboard/piano sometimes for the band? I know he does the samples and stuff like that but if I’m not mistaken he does the keys too. But I could be mistaken though🤷🏾‍♂️.

Many instrument overdubs, which are very hard to replicate live, are sampled by Craig.

@@follertdaniel People don’t notice Craig generally, but a lot of the sound and appeal of Slipknot comes from their use of cool samples and overdubs and loops They instantly wouldn’t sound like Slipknot anymore without him

@@House.Of.Pain. This song literally has a piano part, so yes, he does.

@@Kaoskadosk idk if you’re saying that like dude umm yeah he does it’s obvious that there’s a piano part or are you saying that oh yeah there’s a piano part so yeah he does but either way I was talking to the og post because I know that there’s a piano in the song I was telling him that I believe that Craig plays the keyboard and more than likely also piano for me band

Bro.. go to a live show. See Slipknot or Lamb of God live and get some decently close spots so you get hit in the face by the drums through the speakers.. watch and be amazed at so much technical skill being smashed into your earholes... watch how the breakdowns warp your mind into full emersion.. :) It took 1 metal show to make me a metal fan.

@@KizzleTheKonqueror I went to Lamb of God, Gojira and Mastadon show in Orlando in 2005, Lamb of God was so good live

@@KizzleTheKonqueror I've seen chelsea grin, suicide silence and job for a cowboy and it ended up 2 pops of anvil right after

Keep listening to metal. Your ear will get used to it, and you'll be able to pick out certain things 👍.

@@automachinehead did you see Suicide during the Mitch era?

Only fitting that the man looks a little like Ric Flair! Woooo!!

And his air drumming of course !

I had to laugh when he did some air guitar while holding a solid guitar

💯% people don't give slipknot the credit they deserve sometimes

who would have thought you would listen to metal i thought you didnt like metal

my least favourite one, and still a banger!

Miss you Joey💔

I think his Ride Bell stank face is the is best part of all the air drumming he does.

Him moving his head side to side, like he’s confused by where the sound is coming from is the best 😂

Got to have the same level of talent...

@@amerixantrash3620 Which most don’t.

I don't think this was actually recoreded 'off-grid', so to speak. It's more likely that the guys are (were, in the case of Paul and Joey) such great players that they don't need a lot of editing to sound tight.

@@Spermwhales93 I don't know dude, Rick pointed out that Duality was recorded off grid, plus Jim Root said in an interview recently that they did their latest album without a click, I'm just going by how the tempo is fluctuating a lot, I know you can program in a tempo map for that but this just seems much more organic sounding than that

​@@RickerbyMusic Well the thing is, if you're recording people who are genuinely THAT tight (and the Slipknot guys are), even on a 'gridded' session you barely need to do anything to the actual performances. Yeah sure Jim might say they didn't record with a click and that may very well be true but that doesn't mean that the actual session in the DAW wasn't 'gridded'. Remember that producers do a lot of things behind the scenes without telling the band or just straight up lie to them to get the best possible performances, tones and sounds (the story about Butch Vig making Kurt Cobain do loads of takes claiming that it didn't record properly etc. to trick him into double-tracking his vocals comes to mind here).

This might be the most factual thing I’ve ever heard. Mind = blown.

Spitting facts

@Corby Jenkinsburger I liked your first comment about dad jokes until I read your pointless second comment

@@shanksmcnasty6650 yeah that went south pretty quick lol

They're doing something rather curious with the parts of the body.. In a way we don't fully understand (12x) CARVE

Nail. Head. You hit it.

That’s exactly it, I never questioned it and may have taken it for granted being into Metal for years but yep, think that’s it

Agreed! I would also extend that to listenners (at least the ones that I had contact). You see them bursting out their stress in their look, but all of them were great friends - the best ones I ever had. And now I see my friends are also great parents and respect their partner.

Him and Phil Anselmo are the top 2 of all time IMO

Just like how Joey is one of the best drummers to have emerged from the 2000s, Corey is one of the best vocalists to have emerged from the 2000s.

Corey's voice is my all time favorite

When you start hearing mashups with slipknot you realize how versatile Corey's voice really is. My favorites are "Slipshack" and "If You Wanna Breathe My Sulfur" by Bill McClintock, though Chik-knot "Dance Memories" by DJ Cummerbund is also a masterpiece.

What i love about Corey in Slipknots dirty sounds: you hear him breathing, sometimes short and percussive and sometimes even melodic like in the bridge. You need insane air control if you want to do Coreys vocals.

Hello beautiful woman How are you doing today Hope all's well with you?

What are you mostly a fan of?

Same! I prefer old school Heavy Metal (Priest, Maiden etc.) to most Slipknot, but Rick really chose the right song here to honor Joey!

Same, actually a few things I never noticed before. The piano stabs earlier in were neat.

I had never heard the scratching.

How lol

I just learned about like 20 things I’ve never noticed before and this song was the theme song of my early twenties.

@@8569jimboslice I always thought it was a guitar that did that

Mudvayne LD50 & Slipknot Vol 3 are two of the most solid albums front to back of the era

Iowa is superior in many ways imo, but hey it's all about personal taste

I completely agree with you but I'm pretty sure the band, or at least Corey have said this is their least favourite album. I've no idea how.

@@jackpepperpwb I think ahig is their least favorite, but corey hated recording subliminal bc he hates Rick rubin.

@@jackpepperpwb pretty sure the band this Vol 3 is their best sounding, AHIG is the one they don’t like

That's also why I love Rick's channel...

the other mac as well, miller. one of the best songwriters of the decade

@@shyankhan_ I’m not too familiar with his music. I’ve only listened to Blue World and I thought it was a cool track. Mac has a lot of interesting modal and Jazzy progressions that are right up Rick’s ally, but I oughta listen to more of his music to see what you mean!

@@AllenBeatcake yes absolutely! i should for demarco as well

Just... amazing.

@@malcolmlarri8236 This is why I love Ricks stuff, the amount he knows with production and theory is so rare to see. most tend to stick to one and maybe know a bit of the other or only know one side to music.

Other channels that do this like produce like a pro or think like an engineer are boring, and yeah they are either a guitarrist or a producer. Not both. Almost never do they bring the piano out or analyze the theory in simple terms. Yeah, this guys knows hows to do most jobs himself so that gives him an advantage to keep the video tight, and fun with the highlights, not to mention hes a lightspeed master ear training god, who is able to on the spot bring out the beauty and copy it with lightspeed. Not many can do all that in a jam packed short fun video.

Easily one of the best.

I remeber buying their first album.. after hearing the intro and then sic and eyeless.. i got hipnotyzed by everything.. corey’s singing.. the screams.. everything!

@@gigi78222 Same! When Iowa came out it blew my mind aswell. s/t is still probably my favourite album to be honest.

@@gigi78222 Yeah, I still remember that feeling of hearing their first album for the first time. Epic!

@@professorpancakes6545 , yeah! That album has great songs too.. I remember as a little kid coming back from school and watching left behind on mtv.. that butcher was really creepy but I love that song

When I was a kid and they first came out he was everyones favorite member. Even the guitar nerds loved him.

I think this was to their benefit because I always thought Slipknot were kids like college age when they popped off but they were all adults, late 20s to early 30s. Being more mature musically and better at their instruments with the debut helped them.

well theyre kinda like a local superband,

The whole album is perfect destruction!

is it underrated if it's one of their most popular songs though?

Is it underrated if it won a Grammy?

@@martinmcdowell61 I think he means metal heads look down on it because it’s popular

@@bradleynugent4991 👆👆This guy gets it. I actually do argue the fact that it won a Grammy could mean it's underrated within the metal community. Just take a look at what the majority of metal fans say about pop music. Grammy = mainstream = pop = trash.

Can't see California without..

You mean Mick Thompson

+ Stephen Carpenter

@@MSayok He is a beast on the strings. The tones he gets hit you right in the groin. Like Matt Pike does.

Wes has never been underrated, he's always been acknowledged as the most talented member of Limp Bizkit and a great guitar player.

@@boozalm3715 pretty sure he means jim.

Makes me cry

It's one of my absolute favorite bridges

Ghost of perdition I would kill to see them for live.

Hessian Peel is awesome. Perhaps Burden would also be nice for this format. :-)

That Song Would take 2 hours to analyze 😅

@@Kuba16BVB You're not wrong...but I'd watch all 2 hours of it. Twice.

He wrote that entire song

One of the most underrated songs of all time.

Rick actually rarely talks about the really vulgar songs, and that ones subject matter practically borders on necrophilia. I dont think he's gonna touch that one. Would love if he did a song The Rev waa on though, considering the one a7x WMTSG was a song after The Rev died.

Legends never die. 🤘

Did the guy die?

Someone that makes fun of the Christian religion is an inspiration to you. Why is it okay to ridicule Christianity and not any other religion.

@John Burris Because seeing Bible bangers like yourself get all butthurt over it is hilarious.

@@brandonjones8849 I'm sorry you see it that way. You act like I'm close-minded in a Bible banger this seems to me you're the one that's close-minded because you can have your opinion and I can't.