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@DBrentWalton
@DBrentWalton 3 года назад
7CW mouthpiece here. I had the privilege of meeting Maynard Ferguson. Aside from the high notes, his "circular breathing" was amazing. He had me time him and 2.5 minutes. Most people can't hold their breath that long, BUT, in his case, you could see his diaphragm move in and out as he sustained that high note for 2.5 minutes. Growing up on Stan Kenton, I was thrilled to meet Maynard, Jay Saunders, Bill Chase, Doc Sevrinson as well as tenor saxophonist Don Menza. They were all greats.
@JRT5573
@JRT5573 2 года назад
I was able to hear Maynard, Chase, and Severinson live, but actually "met" only Chase in the sense a few of my friends an I talked to him a few minutes after one concert. All of this was in the 70's. When I heard Ferguson, two of my friends and I couldn't have been more than ten feet from him. He was doing a clinic/concert at Bowling Green State University in Ohio - spring of 1972. We sat in the front (folding chairs in a large meeting room and had our little cassette player recording all of it and he never said a word about it. I always considered Severinson the least of those three, but that is because, as a young trumpet player, it was all about the screaming. Plus, I didn't watch Carson, and, in truth, high note playing was not what he was known for. But one of my high school band mates was principal tubist for the WV State Symphony, so he always got me free tickets. On one occasion, Severinson was the guest artist. I sat in or very near the front row of the old-theater-like auditorium. And I was blown away. I know he was good technically, but I had no idea of his range. In the latter half of the concert, he had a travelling group with him playing more jazzy stuff, but in the first half, it was strictly "classical" stuff. He played a concerto that I believe was written just for him. He did things I did not know was possible. And he played in the upper register with the same accuracy as in the lower register. He could play loud or soft up there. He could slide around or play fast and technically accurate. It seemed he could do anything. I was amazed. Maybe Maynard and Chase could have done the same, but I never heard them. I have not heard any notable musicians "live" since that Severinson Concert. So, to this day, I say that Severinson is the best trumpet player I ever heard live.
@oldgit4260
@oldgit4260 5 лет назад
I'm here because I'm sick of the millions of guitarist video's, I want to watch something different, that I know nothing about. I find it inspiring and humbling
@lbb2rfarangkiinok
@lbb2rfarangkiinok Год назад
Welcome to a world without tab!
@francoiscomeau6576
@francoiscomeau6576 2 месяца назад
You forgot now all the drums videos :)))
@jorgecallico9177
@jorgecallico9177 6 лет назад
The advice on stance and breathing is always helpful to those struggling. However my experience has shown that few trumpet players will take this advice. I took Maynard's advice and it made a real lead player out of me. Granted it didnt help to play as high and as well as Maynard but it certainly did help. But that's because I listened to the great man. Most other trumpets won't.
@chrisdudleytrumpet
@chrisdudleytrumpet 5 лет назад
@@Braglemaster123 Except that ruins your posture
@PoliticalHumorAndTruth
@PoliticalHumorAndTruth 2 месяца назад
When you are in marching band or DCI it is pretty hard to incorporate that advice regarding stance. In concert bands you have to sit down. So while I appreciated Maynard's advice, it just simply isn't practical during the years many people are learning to play.
@markgalvao4246
@markgalvao4246 3 года назад
Definitely came here expecting him to talk about Miles Davis smoking the jazz cabbage. This guys posture and eyes even led me further to believe that
@derycktrahair8108
@derycktrahair8108 5 лет назад
The advice on posture is spot on. Look at Opera singers & the way they stand. Those guys can really project. On a gig I played beside 2 Tpts. One sounded LOUD, the other sounded quiet. I had to sort out something at the back of the auditorium & heard them at a distance. The soft guy was clear, the LOUD guy was in the background. What we hear on the stand may not be what the audience hears. It certainly reminds me not to over blow.
@RW-ob4en
@RW-ob4en 8 месяцев назад
Good one!
@PoliticalHumorAndTruth
@PoliticalHumorAndTruth 2 месяца назад
Once you figure it out mouthpiece doesn't matter. Bobby Shew was the teacher at a band camp that had me go into 'the smallest mouthpiece I could find'... he found me a MF jetone personal model. He told me flat out it wasn't just about the mouthpiece, but that my setup was inefficient and that the larger mouthpiece was giving me room to learn stupid ways to play higher. Like excessive pressure. At first I couldn't play on it at all on the mouthpiece. Any sound I could make sounded awful. My band director was outraged. My private classical trumpet teacher called Bobby Shew trash. But I knew Bobby Shew played circles around them. So I kept at it. It literally changed me from a struggling Eb above high C player into a solid double G's. I also quickly noticed if I changed even into a 13a4a or 6a4a and played on it exclusively for a few weeks... i would start doing stupid things again. Even with those mouthpieces most consider small. I met Jim Manley and he really helped me with my sound and got me to the double C range. The best part is now I can play on any mouthpiece. Doesn't matter large or small I'm going to be fine. I sound amazing on Bach 7C up to an Eb above high C. So NOW I can say personally mouthpiece doesn't matter. But the real trick I learned is that high register playing is actually easier than mid-range once you figure it out. I will get a lot more tired playing through middle C to high C than above high C. And ironically I met Doc Severinsen when I was 10 years old and he told me exactly that... but it wasn't until many years later it became true for me.
@Augustolopesfelix
@Augustolopesfelix Месяц назад
Man, I got this mouthpiece. Jettone MF. Tell me the secret to make it work
@fgclawnmowerguy4553
@fgclawnmowerguy4553 3 года назад
I have been playing trumpet for 4 years and about 8 months ago I couldn’t even play a high c so I started working hard and now I got my range up to a double g
@asston712
@asston712 5 лет назад
I'm a trombone player and we somehow have one of the smallest spaces in the band when we need the most room so our posture is kinda bent down which looks weird when we actually do have room.
@randscott4676
@randscott4676 3 года назад
No reason to bend down. Play off the left side of the stand and if there are saxes in front of you play between their shoulders or heads. However not all embouchures require a perfect bell out stance, consider the different stance of Cichowicz and Herseth. Generally though, good posture is highly important.
@brassplyer
@brassplyer 5 лет назад
I find that having the horn at the highest possible angle to the plane of your face works. Play a fairly loud note - raise the horn angle (not your head) until the note cuts off. Then bring the horn back down again just until the note speaks again and you can again get a loud, full sound. You'll find the difference is subtle. **That's** where you want your horn angle to be. If you look at the evolution of Doc Severinsen's setup over time - there are videos of him from the late 40's and 50's - compared to how he played in the mid-late 60's and on when his range was really amazing - the angle of his horn came up a bit.
@squiddyjamzzz
@squiddyjamzzz 4 года назад
"Were not clarinet players we dont live down here" lol good example
@stevenbollinger9776
@stevenbollinger9776 Год назад
I love Maynard Ferguson. I love Miles Davis. But, man, if there was ever a trumpet player who DIDN'T stand up straight, it was Miles. So, did he just decide to disregard Maynard's advice and do things his own way? Or did he stand up straight, but only when he needed to hit a very high note?
@freedomofexpression4916
@freedomofexpression4916 Год назад
“We are not clarinette player we play here…” how many times i have seen miles playing with his trumpet down, i respect you but I don’t know what you are talking about? Unless you are better than Miles Davis
@adegunlolapeter6625
@adegunlolapeter6625 6 лет назад
great work how much is your trumpet
@gregorysloat4258
@gregorysloat4258 Год назад
THANK YOU for saying this! It drives me nuts seeing trumpet players pointing their horns down as if they are clarinet players, and worse, playing with an “overbite” embouchure. Most people have an overbite. You should have learned to move your lower jaw forward so that your lower teeth are in line with your upper teeth. Problem solved!
@christophervivestrumpet7565
@christophervivestrumpet7565 6 лет назад
gotta say i started doing this and it does kinda work no joke so good advice
@rickdynes
@rickdynes Год назад
a little clarification: Miles Davis was one of the greatest artists who ever lived................ full FLIPPING stop🛑 ..............and to Maynard Ferguson's credit: He broke new ground in the art of hitting high notes on a brass instrument ....... for those who don't know
@rubenproost2552
@rubenproost2552 Год назад
Projecting is not the same as playing high.
@albertmiller3082
@albertmiller3082 4 года назад
Miles Davis played exactly what he wanted. With all due respect to Maynard Ferguson. Ferguson “telling Miles how to play” is like LeRoy Neiman telling Picasso how to paint. Just sayin’.
@jeremydano2842
@jeremydano2842 4 года назад
The best musicians are able to ask and then to receive suggestions from others. Doesn't matter from who. Maynard was an amazing player in any sense, as was Miles. I can only imagine what it would have been like to be there while they were talking.
@albertmiller3082
@albertmiller3082 4 года назад
Jeremy O you could not be more correct. But Jeremy, Miles went to JUILLIARD SCHOOL OF MUSIC in NYC. Arguably the FINEST musical institution of its day. Do you REALLY think Miles was unaware of “the right way to stand” in posture to blow? C’mon, man... Story is a fable. Simple as that.
@thinktwice4565
@thinktwice4565 4 года назад
Right. Miles did not want to Sound like Maynard, Maynard can Play like Miles, With all respect to Maynard..,.
@riverme2994
@riverme2994 3 года назад
@@adamb4610 Never
@HerrSommerjunge
@HerrSommerjunge 3 года назад
Admiring Miles Davis is the reason I started playing trumpet. Nonetheless I heard him missing high notes, e g on Someday my prince will come (live).
@antonioibatan1431
@antonioibatan1431 Год назад
The goat of high notes is Lynn nicholson
@matteowatteo1296
@matteowatteo1296 5 лет назад
Anyone can squeak. Gimme Wayne Bergeron. Nice, fat, full tone in the upper register.
@matteowatteo1296
@matteowatteo1296 5 лет назад
Maybe, just maybe ..... if all you can get out of a note is a dry, vapid squeak ..... then maybe, just maybe ........ that note isn't worth playing. Just fart into a microphone.
@VoodooDewey69
@VoodooDewey69 5 лет назад
Yes he is an exceptionally trumpet player one of the best in the world but he is not a jazz musician Lee Morgan was a jazz musician Woody Shaw was a jazz musician Wayne is just a lead trumpet player
@dreadedsage8630
@dreadedsage8630 4 года назад
Maynard's tone was fat as fuck.
@obbzerver
@obbzerver 6 лет назад
I guess it'll just make people mad to point out that Miles still never had great range or power.
@MusicGurus
@MusicGurus 6 лет назад
Well Miles wouldn't have gotten the gig with YBB then!! Gotta play loud and high.. :)
@gregfarley4003
@gregfarley4003 6 лет назад
Miles always played hunched over with his trumpet pointed towards the floor. That’s why he never could play very high.
@obbzerver
@obbzerver 6 лет назад
He had about a weak E, F, feeble G range.
@dcinsc
@dcinsc 6 лет назад
Miles is easily the most overrated trumpet player.
@pacpac3425
@pacpac3425 6 лет назад
Freddie Hubbard is still my all around favorite. RIP
@gabemoore8119
@gabemoore8119 6 лет назад
Charlie, I'm interested in what your impression of the Lotus trumpet that you played with Adam Rapa was?
@WasatchSasquatchUtah
@WasatchSasquatchUtah 5 лет назад
Some people find it easier to hit high notes by angling the trumpet upward, some actually find it easier when angling downward.
@blankfaceman9694
@blankfaceman9694 6 лет назад
What does he mean young blood music
@lesdessouschics
@lesdessouschics 5 лет назад
Young Blood Brass is a band
@DennisJohnsonDrummer
@DennisJohnsonDrummer Год назад
Faster air.
@ютуб-ы5к
@ютуб-ы5к 5 лет назад
🗣
@rickdynes
@rickdynes Год назад
at what point in human history will people understand that there is this thing called Art? and that being the best artist is DIFFERENT from some high score on some physical, mechanical, technical metric?? THIS distinction WILL get you so much Further down that ART UNDERSTANDING ROAD with THIS distinction, you will be so much more capable of appreciating.... Picasso Van Gogh Louis Armstrong Bob Dylan Rembrandt
@IsaiahSMC
@IsaiahSMC 6 месяцев назад
I know this comment is a year ago, but did you ever think that if you want your art to be more improved you have to learn fundamentals? Cause you know those artists still learned how to correctly play their instrument.
@sstrey174
@sstrey174 2 года назад
Nothing like a out of shape guy in a Packers jersey making a video aimed at High schoolers trying to make a veiled diss at Miles Davis for clicks.
@DS-ju2sq
@DS-ju2sq 3 года назад
Manny WiIkins
@hersheyskwertz9315
@hersheyskwertz9315 4 года назад
It’s all in the knee bend
@VoodooDewey69
@VoodooDewey69 5 лет назад
Maynard wouldn't make a pimple on Miles Davis butt, trumpet players who think that range is everything are usually the trumpet players with the least Talent, anybody can pick up a trumpet and scream with a small mouthpiece but can they say something with a trumpet like Miles could, no,can they play bebop,no,can Arturo play a ballad,hell no,could maynard play a ballad? I'm not trying to sound negative but this is my opinion, the problem with most Caucasian musicians is that they over analyze jazz, break it down into a science but they fail to realize the essence of the music is your soul ,the roots of this music is a product of slavery ,something we will never know anything about, unless you sleep in a row house, starve, know what it's like to have nothing, you will never be a jazz musician.
@Makeveli420
@Makeveli420 4 года назад
Yeah... since there are so many black trumpet players alive that were slaves. I guess white people have never suffered.... You are a moron sir and your opinion is invalid. Maynard is the greatest trumpet player ever!
@nathanielwilliford2589
@nathanielwilliford2589 4 года назад
It’s not valid or fair to blame all of that on race because maybe there have been a few examples of something like that throughout the history of this music but that doesn’t justify such a huge stereotype like that because you have no idea what people go through in their own lives. And secondly, it is ridiculous to say that Maynard can’t play a ballad. His ballads are a lot more packed with love and emotion than most players can dream of playing in their lifetime and career. And check out some of his older stuff too where he actually solos improv. I guarantee you, Maynard can play bop. Maynard and Arturo are both phenomenal players. They aren’t bad just because they aren’t black. Not a fair statement to make
@danleudanski5606
@danleudanski5606 4 года назад
IMHO Miles Davis was overrated. IMO Clifford Brown was or would have been the greatest pure jazz trumpet player ever if he didn’t pass on so young. That said I might agree to a degree the difference in soulfulness between races however I’m pretty sure Wynton Marsalis was never a slave nor suffered any hardships yet is one of the best. Ferguson was also one the best, why fault him for playing up high, that was his forte. He also was a great (Legendary) all around player as is Sandoval, he definitely can play a ballad with the best of them.
@curtrod
@curtrod Год назад
you wrong
@chasefreak
@chasefreak 11 месяцев назад
LOL-that's hilarious-total BS but hilarious nonetheless
@rockancestor
@rockancestor 4 года назад
Miles played to the ground 'cause he was a rule breaker and killed
@petechapman301
@petechapman301 6 лет назад
Arturo Sandoval? Bad example. First of all, he does a jaw shift and uses what is a second embouchure to play high, which is very low percentage on the success scale if you're trying to pull that off. Second of all, have you ever really listened to Arturo play high? He doesn't really play up there he squeaks up there. He can't touch the sound of Doc Severinsen or Maynard Ferguson in the upper register. And Sandoval plays too many notes--diarrhea of the fingers, circular breathing and no phrasing. It's not how many notes you play that counts, it's how you play them. Doc and Maynard are the real deal. Try to emulate them if you want to be good.
@asmcriminaL
@asmcriminaL 6 лет назад
Sandoval's technical ability puts both of them in the dust. He also has a much lower range as well. You're missing the point, the guy in the video is saying it's not so much the equipment. You can't compare trumpet players the way you're doing. Everyone has their own abilities and talents. Maynard might be good at some things, Sandoval is good at other things. Sandoval also has a higher range...
@jr2660
@jr2660 6 лет назад
Pete Chapman Arturo Sandoval is a god of trumpet in any register. And his tone is the brightest and richest tone imaginable. Maybe the register starting at double e sounds squeaky, but too loud and clean for be "just a squeak". His double c is even richer then MFs. I love Maynard, but Arturo is much better. He has also proven enough that he is not just about fast notes and squeaks. He even plays in the trombone range with quite a solid tone for that register. And stop complaining about his embouchure. He has found his way to play and is maybe #1 of the trumpet players. Doc and Maynard are still in the middle top 10 but Arturo can get both if he would want to. But he doesn't and MF and Doc don't complain(ed) either, because they know that they are/were legends and just except(ed) each other
@dcinsc
@dcinsc 6 лет назад
Yea...you have limited personal experience with Arturo apparently lol
@ggans2339
@ggans2339 6 лет назад
WTF! If you listen to Arturo's "Dear Diz"-recording you can not talk about "squeaks" or anything like that! This is absolute technique! Or in another way: if those notes are squeaks - i wanna squeak also! Call me a wannabe-squeaker.....
@awreckingball
@awreckingball 6 лет назад
Thanks dad.
@tomwalenter7230
@tomwalenter7230 4 года назад
Great advice, great video. But please get a different jersey! GO BEARS!!!!!!! LOL. Thanks again for the video, picked up my horn after 42 years and started playing again.
@Dr.J-e9t
@Dr.J-e9t 5 лет назад
The angle of your horn relates exclusively to your lower teeth and jaw. You cannot tell a player to hold their horn at a certain angle. Check out Sergei Nakariakov - one of the greatest classical players in the world. His horn angle is practically down to his toes and he's 1,000 times the player you are. You guys can play loud, but Youngblood Brass Band has the technique and finesse of a bull elephant in a blender. Noise does not equal music and I've yet to hear you guys play anything musical!
@chrisdudleytrumpet
@chrisdudleytrumpet 5 лет назад
It's great to give advice, but when you directly insult another player, you are immediately removing yourself from making any positive input. You could've ended after the first 2 sentences.
@curtrod
@curtrod Год назад
​@@chrisdudleytrumpetmaybe he's right though
@richardgordon8110
@richardgordon8110 6 лет назад
ALIGNMENT OF YOUR CHOPS.
@chrisdudleytrumpet
@chrisdudleytrumpet 5 лет назад
You play whichever way works best for you. Don't ever change your embouchure.
@charloalba
@charloalba 6 лет назад
????¡¡¡¡????
@johnjones4145
@johnjones4145 6 лет назад
A real shame that old Maynard couldn't play in time to save his soul !
@gregghurst4285
@gregghurst4285 6 лет назад
Are you nuts?
@evdallas123
@evdallas123 6 лет назад
John jones wtf?
@trumpetplayerdude9838
@trumpetplayerdude9838 5 лет назад
You must be thinking of someone else
@DBrentWalton
@DBrentWalton 3 года назад
You don't get tight trumpets playing together if you're out of time. I've heard MF play LOTS, and while he could play lose, he could also play tight, and when you're the soloist, it's the job of the rest of the band to follow your lead. As both a pianist and trumpet player, I can unequivocally state a good pianist let's the vocalist set the pace, not the other way around. Whether your playing a trumpet, sax, trombone solo, when you're soloing, you're the boss. When you're not, you follow the leader. I think you need to listen to some more Maynard, Stan Kenton, Buddy Rich, Don Menza and get your gears between your ears greased a little.
@billhannaford4488
@billhannaford4488 2 года назад
and Miles couldn't play in tune
@richardgordon8110
@richardgordon8110 6 лет назад
Who gives a CRAP.
@saulplascencia1301
@saulplascencia1301 10 месяцев назад
What's the song name at beginning of video?
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