What might Unity mean for FM25? 

Something I should be clearer about in the video is the difference between Match Engine and graphics. They are two separate but intertwined parts.

It's always so dangerous to compare graphics to other, similar titles running on the same engine. An engine itself doesn't make the graphics but a lot of people seem to think it does. There's a whole different team working on it that uses different resources, using different mechanics... It'll look way different from Top Eleven or whatever.

One thing I'm hoping for is like a mini open top bus parade simulation at the end of a successful season with the cups on display, players dancing, and maybe even a press conference-esque part where your manager model is holding a megaphone with a number of options to choose from what to say

I'm excited about the new FM game, it felt like we've seen the same game being released for the last 20 years or so, so it's nice with a fresh restart or whatever. :)

Great video! As a software engineer and game dev hobbyist with unity i have a take on this: The Unity side has only been in dev for 3 years(2021) which started with 2 folk. So realistically the game wont have any of this(Maybe 3d stadiums/shadows on field), but the face and full 3D match engine will be a constant work in progress that takes years to polish to the standard we expect these days, we need to expect a more polished spreadsheet manager like FM24 and if we get anything near to nordeous topeleven 3D engine then id be happy...as a start. I want to point out that the team at FM do an outstanding job at consistency so if anything not 100% miles wont push it out, i give them massive applause for that.

I've been playing since CM03/04 and I have to say the developers are no pushovers, they're stubborn toward major changes and that kept this game alive for 20 years or so, I don't think we'll see drastic changes in any new FM as it will always be subtle and calculated. Graphics is one area you can expect to see any drastic changes, however Im sure thats a topic of discussion in the SI team for years. Im sure their concern is how they could transition into a nextgen graphics without taking anything away anything from the current ME. But with AI anything is up for grabs. I just know those developers are very careful towards changes, I remebered when they move in the interface slightly the hardcore went MAD and that just triggered the whole skinning community.

Really good video. I've subscribed!

I've got a strong suspicion that the graphics are going to disappoint and will highlight existing issues with the match engine. But I will buy it anyway...

Great video, very insightful. I always get slightly worried when a game changes engine, particularly after seeing the latest rendition of FIFA and PES 😂. Really looking forward to see what it looks like though.

Just want it to look some what real, the first incarnations of the 3d engine worked well and somehow looked better than current engine. At some point they made the graphics a bit more cartoony, just want it to go back to being a bit more real. Would also be good if they can incoperate AI or use AI face images for regens.

I'd love it if they introduced a fantasy team like they used to do in the lma manager games

Great vid! 👏

The dream for me is still, the Fifa/EA FC engine combined with Football Manager. I won't hold my breath though.

I dont believe we need FIFA level graphics. I think just an upgrade to the matrch engine would be great to look a bit more realistic. I watched a video of a match from FM12 and the match engine looked much better. I also think the AI needs a lot of work. Some of the "issues" that players come at you with are a bit stupid. Like signing a 16 year old who gets mad at you for not including him in your CL squad is a bit unrealistic. I have also sometimes found when I'm just playing around with the game and holidaying, the players have lost trust in me due to broken promises or for another reason, I wasnt there mate, I was sunning myself if Greece, take it up with the Ass. Man. Even just a shake up of responses to media, players etc. I've played FM since FM2004 and for the longest time I did EVERY press conference, but over the last 5 years I've not seen any real change to the questions asked, the responses I can give. You cant really create any kind of personality for your manager. You're just this generic robot, dull manager. Let me be a 'Special One' let me be controversial and actually make it have a proper affect on the game and how the media, players, agents interact with me.

Great little vid 🙂

Very reserved. If they are using a new engine a lot of things can go wrong.

Nice work Si 👏👏

Does the unity engine mean they can process leagues more efficiently in game? I turn off most of the graphics and would be happy with fm12 graphics. I just really want a massive database with as many leagues and players loaded while the game is still playable. Or more complex tactics.

Great vid SiMaggio

Since Apple's vision pro is also using unity engine, I think future fm will be available in vision pro with AR view. What do you think?

It'll be a big mistake, they just needed to bring in some gifted coders to fix up the graphics side of their current engine, an engine that has been fine-tuned with an extraordinary feel for a long, long time.

I just want a game that can play on a laptop easy, cause i travel alot, hopefully not too many graphical changes.

Seemed an odd move to me, Unity doesn't automatically give you better graphics or performance, FM looks the way it does because of low poly models and low resolution textures, so regardless of the engine everything will have to be re-done from scratch. In any case I'd be more concerned whether they can bring across all the code from the previous games and have it be as stable and fast as previous versions. I assume they will be calling their old C++ code from DLLs (I can't see a way it can all be ported to C# in two years) and then it's case of how quickly and seamlessly they can bring that data into the Unity C# layer to be displayed to the player. They have to be rolling their own UI engine as well because the built-in UI in Unity is not optimized for hundreds of text boxes and controls on a screen. So there's a lot of work to do and get right before the question of whether the 3D engine is going to look significantly better, if the game is laggy and buggy it won't matter if the match looks like FIFA.

Surely looking for graphics akin to FIFA 09 (15 years ago) isn’t all that out of the question?

I'm a bit concerned that SI might start monetizing their games like EA Sports does. Personally, I find it hard to pay for a subscription month to month for a game. If that happens, I think FM24 could become like PES 6, with the modding community keeping it alive and updated for years to come.

Great video. Why using Palmeiras T-Shirt tho? 😠😠

We are football, an amazing indie football manager game implemented a 3D match engine this year and it is a million times better than FM's

Dont get carried away. SI will definitely fuck it up. Just look at 24, 23, 22......

I used to play football manager back in collage days 2015 onward but being a fifa head i couldn’t really get into the game as much as I would of liked - I think football manager could turn a lot of fifa heads because career mode is awful! The money they about to make they might hit a jackpot if the graphic is good! 💰

Imagine if it was on UE one day...

As i knew player who has just done his first season since lma 2006 i qas suprised that i could win the leauge with arsenal with no knowledge of the game

the fact that we haven't seen nothing , in my opinion isn 't a good thing...

pes club manager had the best match engine by far. Player movement, physics, passing, shooting and tackling looked amazing for a mobile game. Konami decided to kill the game to create eFootball... well lets just say it was not a good idea. I would love if fm25 match engine looked and played at least that great. I don't think what will be the case.

There's purchased items on console fm24 so it'll sneak into pc

it needs a massive upgrade, the game has become tired

who cares how the game looks cos thats not its issue its not FIFA its a Football Management game. The game is broken in so many ways, the attributes of both players and staff are not reflected in performances/style of play etc the games finances are nothing short of a joke the game is just not fun to play and no matter how good it might look, thats what matters.

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