What next for Scotland? The independence question and the future of the UK 

I'm English, But Who could blame Scots for wanting independence from England. BoJo is the best advert for splitting the UK the SNP have ever had.

Quote: "the only way to protect Scotland’s EU membership was to reject independence." David Cameron Source Aberdeen Press and Journal March 2016 Quote: "A pound spent in Croydon is far more of value to the country than a pound spent in Strathclyde" Boris Johnson 2012 Source BBC TV 'We' in 'our country' have had enough of English Rule, for that is what we have. Scotland gets what England wants and always has for over 3 centuries now. Well Brexit was the final straw that broke our union with England. We are off to join a union where our Scottish vote will never again be called a 'British' vote to force Brexit on our people.

In an independent Scotland the Scottish people would be governed by the government that they vote for and not be governed by the government that another country voted for.

All polls this year show the Scottish people want Independence 12/4/20 Opinium found that 54 per cent of people would vote Yes 25/5/20 YouGov found that 54 per cent of people would vote Yes 4/6/20 Opinium found that 54 per cent of people would vote Yes 21/6/20 Panelbase found that 54 per cent of people would vote Yes 12/8/20 YouGov found that 53 per cent of people would vote Yes 19/8/20 Savanta ComRes found that 54 per cent of people would vote Yes 19/8/20 Panelbase found that 55 per cent of people would vote Yes 02/9/20 Panelbase found that 63 per cent of people would vote Yes 7/9/20 Survation found that 53 per cent of people would vote Yes 20/9/20 HeraldScotland found that 72 per cent of people would vote Yes 22/9/20 IpsosMORI found that 60 per cent of people would vote Yes 26/9/20 Glasgow Herald found that 68 per cent of people would vote Yes 11/10/20 Survation found that 64 per cent of people would vote Yes 14/10/20 IpsosMORI found that 58 per cent of people would vote Yes 30/10/20 JL Partners found that 56 per cent of people would vote Yes 6/11/20 Survation found that 54 per cent of people would vote Yes 16/11/20 Panelbase found that 56 per cent of people would vote Yes

let scotland decide and scotland only....

Boris didn't ask EU permission to leave that Union. Scotland doesn't need permission to dissolve a union its 50% of.

Scotland should just go ahead and have the ballot we don't need permission.

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the UK will be no more if and when Scotland votes for Independence

The Scottish Herald has polled over 30,000 voters in Scotland and got a return for Independence of 82%. Do keep up please Unionists, for I am sure that is the English position of all your speakers.

Scotland's Legal system is one of the oldest in the World as is our Aberdeen Chair of Medicine. Our education standards are higher and seeing the lowest common denominator politics of England we want out. We look forward to licensing our Scottish Economic waters to English fishing vessels, charging the MOD rent for your Nukes, Bases and training grounds, for our green energy exports and taking back control over all the reserved powers including Broadcasting, Transport, Social Security, Finance and Treasury, Border Control, Customs Excise and Duty payments. Scotland will now indeed Jog on if we don't like Brexit. Your English Brexit and your mistake forcing the Irish, Welsh and Scottish born out of a union we were very happy to be a full member off.

SCOTLAND has no parliamentary sovereignty agreement with UK Parliament.

The is the idea amongst those who reject the restoration of Scottish independence that the movement towards independence is a short term recent development. That they can find some magic bullet that will destroy the SNP and Scotland will cease to exist. This is fundamentally false. A portion of the Scottish population never ceased to give up on restoring independent statehood. Just as there is an essentially Anglicize portion who did or try to assimilate into the English population. Since at least the end of WW2 the portion seeking restored independence has slowly in a generational shift increased and is now edging into the majority. This can clearly be seen in the age group voting record. The younger generation being for independence by a massive majority. The elderly being the opposite. As the older generation dies off the new generation replaces them. Support for the union declines as slowly as the death rate whatever pressure or threats or otherwise the UK government tries to reverse the shift. Political pundits focused on the next year or two see only current weather conditions while being unable to grasp the change in the climate of Scottish independence. Offering up spurious reasons for variations in the polls and promising the magic bullet will soon appear. Prof Curtice clearly sees this and limits himself to "in the short term" or slight variations or the next six months. Because a simple admission of the likely long term would have him attacked for bias or fortune telling. Cutice's position is more difficult because he can not know where on the S curve of generational shift the current position. In populations when an opinion nears the 50,50 mark, there is a short rapid shift. A once unreasonable minority opinion becomes normalised and people shift to aligne with their community. Previous assumptions are exposed as false and the shift becomes permanent. The only question here is has this happened and to what intensity in Scotland. Curtice could find himself dealing with a rapid 5 to 8% increase in independence support he can not predict. Or the shift might already happened and was 1% so lost in the variations of opinion polls. The insularity and exceptionalism of UK politics and culture fails to see other countries in Europe have the same data. They look at the long term predictions and accept a future independent Scotland in their international calculations. Ireland already forming a position that Scotland should be their international partner. Spain that Scotland's case is in no way related to Catalonia and they see no reason an independent Scotland should mean an independent Catalonia. It being a firm indication to Scotland that silence and no show of support for Catalonia will be rewarded by Spain's support in the EU.

Next is free Scotland

How many countries have left the UK and paid a share of national debt?

Good to hear a mature, objective discussion in reasonable depth and without histrionics!

An excellent discussion - I watched the whole thing. I think Boris Johnson will hold out as long as he thinks he can - even though this would almost certainly further bolster support for independence north of the border. He certainly doesn't want to be seen to be at the helm as the UK breaks up, but that won't stop him going down in history as being one of the main causes of its final demise.

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Next is an Independent Scotland

Gers says it in the report the estimated figures are for Scotland in the UK not an independent Scotland.

Really interesting. The unionist overtones are a tad tiresome and the fiscal and economic arguments fell short, but still well worth watching.

Legal route? Like the Edinburgh Agreement which was broken by UK as soon as independence looked likely? (Purdah broken by the "Vow" section 28).

Its not a consistent small lead, it is a substantial lead, westminster private pollsters have the split at near on 60/40 in favour of Yes vote after one of those polls were leaked to the Telegraph. Independence is normal, every other country throughout Europe doesnt have its powers dictated to by a neighbouring country, so why should Scotland, wales or northern ireland be dictated to by what is essentially an English parliament? Scotland and its people have been conditioned to believe that for what ever reason that they are subsidy junkies and get back far more cash than it contributes to the exchequer, the opposite is in fact true that Scotland is a net contributor and gets back considerably less in barnett formulae. Scotland was also informed during the last independence referendum that they must vote NO to safe guard their place within the EU. Low and behold Scotland is dragged out of the EU against its will and 90 percent of European nationals voted against indy in 2014 as a direct result of this mantra. Fast forward to 2020 and there is no surprise that the polls have turned on their head. Factor in the pensioners that were scared witless with the false info being peddled regarding losing their pensions if they voted yes, well a percentage of those pensioners now deceased and the younger generation now coming through that were too young to vote back in 2014 now able to vote, with a massive percentage of this demographic that will vote YES for their own future within Europe. Being able to travel and study throughout Europe is an attractive lure to most young folk.Scotland will vote YES in the next referendum, and if you believe the English politicians that Scotland is a burden on the English tax payer, then why does English politicians and Westminster battle hard not lose Scotland? Surely this is a gift for the rest of the UK if Scotland walks away from the union??

layman opinion here, but to stop the momentum of a country's self determination seems very unlikely, we would need to go back to a WW2 environment for any rolling back of Scotland's independence, again even that would only hold the inevitability for a certain period of time.

Spain and Italy want to suppress independence movements within the EU. They do not care about independence movements in third countries. They already stated that Scotland would be welcome in the EU.

Always considered myself British not English and very Pro UK. I don't know whats happened to me over the last few months, but now I couldn't care less if Scotland went independent. I think the UK would work just fine with England, Wales & NI. Good luck to Scotland whatever path she chooses.

This is a really fantastic, objective, balanced and informative debate about independence. Stripped all the emotion out and focussed on the two sides of all relevant questions.

The Scottish government passed the Referendum Bill...and has said the Indyref2 will be at the end of 2023.

Just a wee, but profound, point of order; Scotland is not leaving the UK it is dissolving it.

25 minutes in to even hear a Scottish voice. Shame on you. Curtice is from Cornwall before you get excited.

SNP say if they get elected ( which they nearly always do ) That would be an indicator of independence. But an election and a refurendum are two different things. How can an election pass the laws for a Indy refurendum. It would have no legal standing. SNP could say win with a million votes but over a million may not want to leave the UK which means they lose by majority! . So they are not properly represented. Only a refurendum can bring about independence. And all the same Questions still remain. What currency will they use? How will they fund their version of the NHS? and benefits system? How can they lower debt which will increase without subsidy. And without a currency they would be in immediate poverty. Even if they had a currency it would be worth peanuts Uganda's currency would probably be stronger! They also have said they dont want to adopt the Euro. Plus there are areas that have said they would break away from Scotland too. Like Orkney, even aberdeen i think said they would break away.

Just been on the R4 6 O'Clock News Sunday 24th January 2020. The SNP will call for a referendum if they are voted back in. Plan B if Westminster refuses is to go the Courts - incl. International ones.

Let's be honest it will all depend on what type of deal the UK and the EU agree on .One thing is for sure if it's a bad deal the EU will go out of their way to make sure Scotland rejoin and I'm pretty sure they will make sure Scotland will do well if it's only to get back at Westminster . At the moment the EU are not saying much as negotiations are still in progress if Brexit is as bad as I think it will be I don't think it will only be the Scots looking to rejoin , and as a we extra for sir john curtice I'm a Scot that voted Brexit for the only reason that I kinda sussed out it would be the only way Scotland could get another vote on independence , once people really seen what was coming down the track .

From a Scottish perspective this is really two discussions. One by English people trying to explain Scotland to other English people and another between Scottish people about politics

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Unlike everyone here I actually live through a country regaining independence. So for this video to start with placing so much importance of the English dominated UK government statements on a Scottish independence vote is a bad sign for rational debate. Feeling the need to say the colonial master does not want or sees any reason to allow as it's gift, one of it's possessions to be independent is like saying water is wet. It sets a smug tone more akin to discussing the the behaviour of a disobedient child that needs to be put in it's place. Rather than an issue of a kind the English establishment has nearly always tried to settle through violence only to eventually suffer a costly defeat. In these days of unmasked English nationalism and delusions of imperial grandeur, what else is to be expected.

Not mentioned is that any Scottish produce or other goods that leaves the UK through English ports for example 90% of Scotch whisky production and the vast majority of Scottish fish and shellfish do not count for taxation purposes as scottish exports but instead are classed as English exports and so count at the moment as part of the English economy

The views I have heard among my colleagues, their and my own connection in EU governments is, Scotland would rapidly be restored to the EU. At first without formal membership then full membership within a year. Supposed delays and accession procedures have been greatly exaggerated in the UK when it comes to Scotland by comparing it to completely new members. Particularly on the issue to the Euro when the UK unionist's claims have most often been fraudulent.

Free Scotland!!!!, and I'm English. I truly want to see what a nation of only 5.4 million inhabitants can do on its own - what an experiment!!!! (and 20% of the population is 65 and over). The EU doesn't need to recruit another net receiving country into its portfolio. Lets watch and see what the Scots can do for themselves - I love this! :-) The SNP have limited the debate to independence whilst ignoring that Scotland has other more viable options regarding its future. I can't wait to watch and see how this 'pans out' (I love it! :-)

A good discussion, thank you everyone.

#Independenceisnormal England can butt out, eu didn't interfere in your brexit vote did it.

Scotland wont be as independent as you think at least not milateraly for years if they do leave us, for one Scotland's government plans to lease its army bases back to england for billions a year and use that money to build its defence forse so basicly we the English people will be protecting and providing for independent Scotland in both money and personel but i say I'd rather spend the money moving our military power out of Scotland and set everything up in England if scotland gets its independence it should have to build its own force without England paying for it then they will be independent . 🇬🇧 ✊

The SNP tried to vote out of the EU and the UK in 2014.

Scots are Scots an Scot an Scotland's Free 2023 - pure prophetic poetry - just do it !

The U.K. has to go. Brexit means the end for the U.K. Scotland needs to bring back control.

An excellent watch that sets the standard for the forthcoming debates that we all in Scotland know will come. I voted Yes/Yes re Devo/Tax Raising Powers. No in Indy 1 & Leave. I voted for Ruth (not May but she was the UK PM - oh well) but SNP last election. These paradoxes are explained by the fact that I am an ardent supporter of Maximum Devolution. Any attempt to roll back devo will drive me into the Indy Camp: the Internal Market Bill is doing that as is the failure by UK Conservatives to respect the Devolved Administrations - even the DUP complain. I voted No in 2014 purely due to the fiscal situation - but this piece has changed that now. As someone whose folks moved to Belfast in the 1800s I would caution Johnson in refusing any referendum: I predict that Glasgow, perhaps Inverness & Dundee would see civil disorder of not riots- in the case of the former. Finally, I do like the idea of a Solidarity Fund. PS Some prefer coffee, some tea, some Brussels, some Westminster - for whatever reasons - sentient or sentimental - It may hurt but it’s that simple.

How about a discussion on English independence!

Once in a generation ?????

Yes an EU external Border is inevitable and the loser will be England for Scotland can and will increase trade by Sea direct to the EU. The border, funded by the EU will provide much needed jobs in the Scottish borders and as England is the 3rd country now, your problem is where to you replace your existing trade with Scotland. You never thought about that when you forced your very English Brexit on the Union did you. The fact is that England does not play fair with the members of ANY UNION, be that the member states of the UK or the EU. You will soon be out of all Unions England.

The problem no one talks about is the monarchy most Scot`s want to ditch.

Internationally it is expected that the dominant state will nearly always object to part of it's territory becoming independent. Countries are used to dealing with this. When these countries fail to recognise independence it's always for national interests. But crucially the dominant state always lose the ability to form treaties covering those territories and in the case of Scotland the resources within those territories. The very reasons the English dominated UK government clings to Scotland would be out of their control. The symbolic fishing resource is 70% in Scotland and at least 95% of currently developed oil and gas. Then comes the American supplied missile system sited in a country at odds with UK government. The continued status of a nuclear power could be withdrawn by the USA leaving the UK scrambling unwillingly to negotiate a publicly friendly position with Scotland.

The nationalists love boris.As someone who lived under the Thatcher major years. Unfortunately I can only think that either repression of independence is a certainty. Thatcherism and the brexiteers are the same thing. Therefore the rightward move of England and the British state means apart from repression Scotland has no future in the uk. However conservative party repression as with Thatcher major years could lead to a generation before independence. The economic catastrophe brexit means will probably mean it will happen within 1-10 years. Scots obey the law. The English British government does not.

The independence question and the future of Scotland is the title. I listened carefully to all the information provided and summarise my own conclusion as where my vote will go in the Scottish election in May this year 2021. The SNPs objective is independence. S.N.Ps manifesto , as in their previous independence manifesto , will say that a referendum on independence will take place if they get your vote. If you do not want a referendum do not vote for them. If you do want a referendum vote for them it legitimises fact this is what the Scottish people voted for. Secondly information in the video says Scotland’s economy will suffer a reduction of 6% as a result of Brexit. What % benefit would there be if Scotland joined the E.U. At least it would have a seat at the European table as a nation as opposed to being be a region of the U.K. Being a smaller region the status quo will prevail I.e. in a U.K. election Scotland never gets the party it voted for. Sovereignty regained back from the E.U. will mean the U.K. internal market powers associated with legislation will remain at Westminster and consequently the Scottish parliamentary powers diminished. The Conservative party in my opinion

What would happen if Independence was won and the Unionists dont like the result...do they get another referendum...or do we keep having referendums because the losers don't like the outcomes as this seems to be what is happening because that will happen and will lead to more division and uncertainty in Scotland. Another referendum shouldn't take place for at least 40 years

Disappointingly, this is not a balanced discussion. If you’re going to have a panel that includes an avowed pro-independence member, you should have included the pro-unionist perspective. This sort of assumption that the polls will translate into results is where elites have become unstuck before - Brexit, the vote on an Australian republic, ect. I have no dog in this fight but want to understand and know the facts.

Just one question should be asked before any other is ‘What currency would an indépendant Scotland use’? Without certainty on this question all others are irrelevant!

The path the SNP are taking particularly with Humza Yousaf , on justice and their years with Education system and named persons, is truly frightening. Independence with the SNP who's vision is to rejoin Europe is the worst of all worlds. The SNP are good at giving away the money of others and haveno track record on fiscal prudence.

What is the economic case for independence - that's the key question which we need an answer to

Yes there will be short term economic pain, yes EU will take 5-10 years to get in, yes yes it’s not going to be as good in early years, but I’m still voting yes. Eventually it will be an excellent long term investment. I used to think in 2014 the U.K. wasn’t bad enough to justify the pain and upheaval, and in fairness I don’t think it was bad enough. Now it is definitely bad enough, and it’s not a case of waiting and seeing for 2024 if Labour get in - even if they do 5-10 years later we are back to square one. Ireland has 4mil people and £80bn annual tax revenues. We have 5m loads of resources, and on,y make 57m. Why? Why can’t we be the same as Ireland? Based on population we should be doing better than them. The Unionists seem to claim there is just something structurally/inherent about Scotland which means that, uniquely in the western world, it can’t eventually be a successful 1st world economy. I’ve never seen any evidence that comes close to backing that up. The unionist case rests pretty much solely on the acute immediate problems that will be caused. Well - it’s meant to be forever isn’t it? Have to look at next 10, 20 and 100 years, not just the year immediately after the decision.

What does Professor Douglas-Scott say from 18:33 ▶️18:44?

Why is she compairing Scotland to catalonia we are nothing alike Scotland is a country catalonia is a region

Leave Scotland Leave.

Come on guys your intellectually capable to understand that an independent Scotland will work, why because its a commodity rich country, citizens educated and qualitfied, business and man ufa cturing mature, already subject to EU, UK . The only element Scotland would create its own Central Bank, thus creating its own currency, which it can set its own interest rates and it will be agreed by the BIS , IMF etc Its simple, there is no other way.

I’m at 16:33 and this is really objective and fair so far

This ref2 should b whole of UK I will vote yes and I'm English she should respect the ref2 they already had

This shows how wrong a professor can be.

15/10/22 Scottish independence poll at 61% and john Curtice getting it wrong again

I say give England the vote on if we want them or not,I think the answer would be ,go, you have taken enough from England, and your not having the pound.Scotland can pay for the rebuild of Hadrians wall as well.We would save billions in hand outs.

Cont,d from below : ....the conservatives will then have greater powers in Scotland and return to the political landscape to the detriment of Scotland’s economy. No doubt , the Conservatives will sell off the NHS (National Health Service). If Scotland is an independent country the Scottish people will be able to determine their future and what type of country they want to live in. This is the reason I will be voting SNP. The argument of not being big enough or unable to run a country due to a lack of finances is relatively low value argument as there are plenty of examples of similar size successful independent countries some of which are in the E.U. including our neighbour Ireland. There is always finances available it’s just who controls it which comes back to who has power. You can always find finance what you can’t find more of is time. Hence I know where hope for the future is. It is a vote for independence. If you vote for the status quo ie remain in the U.K. it will be living in a society where there is a race to the bottom controlled by conservatives. The conservatives doctrine abides by Margaret Thatchers infamous quote “there is no such thing as society”. The Labour Party are in disarray and cannot see them in government for many many years. So in conclusion I am looking forward to the Scottish elections in May 2021. I will be giving my vote to the SNP to bring about a referendum for Scotland to be an independent country and save the NHS.

The useless mainstream media give the SNP such criticism free coverage, people think they are competent. They were not held to the slightest account over the disaster with Bifab, or the preposterous hypocrisy of blaming EU rules for their reason for not providing a rescue package. Never mind their great economic hope for Scotland’s future (renewable energy) creating less than a tenth of the jobs they said they would. Yes, splitting an island in half that shares the same currency, military etc. will be simple, straightforward and expense free, just like leaving the European Union was, so no need to press on that point, especially with Scotland’s economy being so strong. No, just get Nicola up on stage and repeat the word Scotland endlessly and put on the wee wifey, just like one of us act for the lunchtime party political broadcast. Also, remember to demonise these posh Oxford and Cambridge types at Westminster - pick on just them, so it doesn’t look like we’re nasty anti-English nationalists on the whole. I noticed in the description for this video that it was “Boris Johnston’s government” of course. Anyway, if there is another Independence vote, there’s no need to respect the result unless it’s the one they want.

What I infer from the SNP fellow is... 'We liked being part of the UK when the empire was helping make us richer than we would have been otherwise but now that's over we need to leave this union and join another apparent gravy train'.

Legally Scotland doesn't have debt or a deficit

What is this pish. Polls showed that over 60% of people wanted to stay in the UK family in 2013/14, yet she still got her divisive referendum. Straight after the defeat. They were chapping at the bit for a rerun. After saying before, they would accept the result.

SNP cannot possibly expect there to be a referendum anytime soon. It's the last thing the UK needs before the covid and brexit issues have settled. UK simply too busy right now to deal with this. They are asking the PM to spend enormous amounts of time on a issue that doesnt affect the vast majority of UK citizens at a decisive moment for the whole UK. It's not reasonable at all.

what about the graphs that show no desire for Scottish independence.? Apparently, the EU was showing friendly to Scotland was to try and disrupt the UK. It seems there would be no desire to bring a small independent country like Scotland into the EU, having a GDP of only 7 %

Taking out how the Scottish Govt handled Covid, Education, Health, the direction of Law and order, just look at the fiscal capability - palpable failure - SNP led govt performs at 15 billion deficit to GDP. This is almost £2000 debt per person. When and if we separate from the UK, who is going to absorb or fund this ? What austerity factors would the leader of the Scottish govt apply to balance the books. We need to balance the books before we can become a BETTER country, ( this is why we would want to leave in the first place ) We would need to have a Bank of last resort , who would take on a household with a 15 billion deficit ? we would need a currency, rejoining the EU would make this the EURO ? Would this be an EU bank , ( A German bank ) ??? mmm we would just be another Greece. Beholding and being told what we can and cannot do by the EU ( Germany ) is this what we want ..................think long and hard my fellow Scots.

When Tony Blair the remainer former "prime minister" had built a new parliament on the outskirts of Edinburgh, he started a precedent, the British Union Flag would be obsolete. We would have to remove the Saltire part of the flag, and maybe keep the St. Georges cross and the Irish red crisscross, with maybe a white background and perhaps add a dragon for the Welsh.

How long before someone Scottish started talking?

Scottish pillow beside Irish pillow 25:00

Shockeroonie took out the truth already get back in your bubble

Who is in favour of a third option being on any future ballot paper, namely, Devo-Max/Full-Fiscal Autonomy?

How can Scotland be independent and keep the GBP ? If that were to happen Scotland could issue unlimited debt to balance the deficit every year forever... debasing the GBP and affecting the economy of both Scotland and England...

That economic argument is the thinnest i've ever heard

The independence referendum was once in a lifetime / generation. or something. - RU-vid

Scotland decided in their once in a generation national referendum 5/6 years ago so see you in 20+ years for your next try hahaha

Stay together if you benefit, but leave if someone better comes along is a bad marriage.

I wanted the scots to stay in the uk as it was the best for them but now after all of the bleating from the snp and scottish people l want to see the back of them but if they go they cannot rejoin and a wall has to go up as the border

Freedom for Orkney and Shetland. Let's keep the division rolling and soon we can be fighting each other again.

I assume given the SNP think that Scotland shouldn't be bound by a UK wide vote on Brexit. Because they didn't vote leave. That if a county votes no to independence. Then Scotland shouldn't go independent? Or at least that county shouldn't.

What a load of total tosh.

Keep asking the same question and voting until you get the right answer...(dictators)

Why is it "The Independence Question" when no alternatives have been discussed in relation to Scotland's future? All of the options available to Scotland are not being mentioned. This is nuts!!!! The SNP are guilty of limiting the debate to suit themselves, if Scotland votes to leave it will get what it votes for. It really is that simple. I'm gonna watch this. I now predict that Scotland will vote for independence and fail to gain entry into the EU as an isolated net receiving country that only has 5.4 million inhabitants (and 20% of these are aged 65 and above). This is nuts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its all very well looking at what the path to independence may look like, but what does independence actually mean for an economy of only 5.4 million people?????? (and 20% of the population is already 65 and over!!!!!!!!). I can't wait to see how all of these calls for independence actually 'pans out'. The EU doesn't need another net receiving country adding to its portfolio, so no joy there. "Free Scotland" is an unaffordable Fantasy!!!! Scotland could end up extremely poor and very isolated indeed, unless Nicolas Sturgeon pursues immigration on steroids to help grow the economy and destroy Sottish culture entirely (I want to see this!!!). FREE SCOTLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-) :-) :-)

Free Willy!!!!!!

Should a Scotsman wear pants under his kilt or not? Gpx

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