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What Really Happened Between Latrell Sprewell & PJ Carlesimo 

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Brian Shaw provides an account of how the confrontation between Latrell Sprewell and PJ Carlesimo occurred..
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@NotoriousSSV
@NotoriousSSV 2 месяца назад
This really is the first time I've heard a full breakdown of this story 😂
@personalwilliamsaccount
@personalwilliamsaccount 2 месяца назад
Me too 😂
@Oldasianguy
@Oldasianguy 2 месяца назад
Old news because I'm an old man
@andren8788
@andren8788 2 месяца назад
Same. Wow! Thank God for podcasts like these
@curtisthomas4908
@curtisthomas4908 2 месяца назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@cheatm78
@cheatm78 2 месяца назад
Only time I’ve heard the question asked lol
@JoeyHuman
@JoeyHuman 2 месяца назад
Dickey Simpkins signed with the Bulls, shot 63% off the bench, got playoff mins for the first time and won his third ring after Warriors released him. Love that ending for him.
@MrOctober44
@MrOctober44 2 месяца назад
Nice
@koreypaul6698
@koreypaul6698 2 месяца назад
Forgot about him
@JamesHall415
@JamesHall415 2 месяца назад
And he averaged 3.7 points that year
@latenightnessii
@latenightnessii 2 месяца назад
and Got 3 rings and played with the GOAT... @@JamesHall415
@OhNo_4mor4freaknbiden
@OhNo_4mor4freaknbiden 2 месяца назад
No one cares about the bulls stiffs (9-12) in the rotation
@kvaka009
@kvaka009 2 месяца назад
Robert Horry is solid for backing him up.
@aneedkassim9727
@aneedkassim9727 2 месяца назад
both Alabama alum. good stuff
@jimmyjameson8705
@jimmyjameson8705 28 дней назад
He's a punk like u
@DJ--ALLDAY
@DJ--ALLDAY 2 месяца назад
Man, '94 Warriors Sprewell, C Webb, Tim Hardaway, Chris Mullen, was The Truth
@HardworkMook
@HardworkMook 2 месяца назад
They had a nice line up but didn't go nowhere or do anything!?!
@Hrdwy
@Hrdwy 2 месяца назад
That's because Tim Hardaway tore his knee. But they still made it to the playoffs
@HardworkMook
@HardworkMook 2 месяца назад
@@Hrdwy it was more than that they played a significant amount of time with each other,they had a good squad but they wasn't going anywhere it was more of individual play than as a team,even if Hardaway didnt get hurt they still wouldnt have really went anywhere,they was one of those teams with talent but wasnt going to get too far!;?!
@Hrdwy
@Hrdwy 2 месяца назад
@@HardworkMook I disagree because Tim Hardaway was the point guard so usually a good orchestrator like him we keep everybody balanced they was scorers not selfish players so him healthy at point would have helped them blossom keep in mind Webber and Sprewell were very young back then
@Hrdwy
@Hrdwy 2 месяца назад
I think Webber was already gone they had Joe Smith
@xohxoh6531
@xohxoh6531 2 месяца назад
We need a 30 for 30 on this story. And the aftermath for each player that stood up. This would not fly in today’s era.
@Lamar4mvp
@Lamar4mvp 2 месяца назад
You’re absolutely right it wouldn’t. A player now would be banished from the league. As they should be..
@darnellwilliams8783
@darnellwilliams8783 2 месяца назад
​​@@Lamar4mvpSprewell did nothing wrong PJ was disrespectful talking to another Grown Man like that period and of course the media made the black man the villain
@dustinmosbrucker1347
@dustinmosbrucker1347 2 месяца назад
Exactly how the NBA molded Jordan into the phony goat of cuz the 89’a whipped his ahhh, nba gave Jordan All his DPOYS😊
@LPjunemark
@LPjunemark 2 месяца назад
​@@darnellwilliams8783how about the thieves on nike,jewelry and apple store. I'm sure no one provoked them. Stop making statements that all black people are good and innocent. All race can be good or evil.
@mikebuckets
@mikebuckets 2 месяца назад
​@@dustinmosbrucker1347 Phony post
@x5p_
@x5p_ 2 месяца назад
"you got traded too?" "nah they CUT me" lmaooo
@ricosauve5
@ricosauve5 2 месяца назад
It worked out for Dickey. He went back to the Bulls that season and won his 3rd title
@slasher5871
@slasher5871 2 месяца назад
😂😂😂
@louio
@louio 2 месяца назад
​@@ricosauve5wow...
@raiderbigal1712
@raiderbigal1712 2 месяца назад
Thanks for clearing up the Latrell Sprewell story for a old guy and life long warriors fan, those were hard days for us for many reasons but something I missed hearing after that was “Spree from 3”! Thanks my dudes!
@Where_Brklyn_At
@Where_Brklyn_At 2 месяца назад
I don’t know any Wu-Tang songs that go; “you don’t wanna fuck with a soldier.” Sounds like No Limit to me.
@missayawk
@missayawk 2 месяца назад
I was thinking the same. Just the word " SOLDIER" alone is not Wu vocab.
@nyckyfossitt432
@nyckyfossitt432 2 месяца назад
He was probably thinking about Wu Tang ain't nothing to f with...
@ehunt
@ehunt 2 месяца назад
It was no limit shaw is just older wu tang and no limit is the same thing to him
@Just_A_Name14
@Just_A_Name14 26 дней назад
@@ehuntthen he’s suffering from dementia
@parkersutton3523
@parkersutton3523 2 месяца назад
Story mode is the best thing to happen in the world of player podcasts. Hearing these stories is entertainment on end. Please keep featuring the OG’s!
@dmccartysr986
@dmccartysr986 2 месяца назад
Actually it’s sad…dude lost millions others were traded others were blackballed is what I got from this story. Bt hey it’s the American 🇺🇸 way I guess 🦅
@zackkazco2098
@zackkazco2098 2 месяца назад
this is why espn is crap...they want to focus on woke nonsense and tell us how great they are
@john_young
@john_young 2 месяца назад
ys
@allpraisestoyah5033
@allpraisestoyah5033 2 месяца назад
@@dmccartysr986that’s life lmao
@hussienali7552
@hussienali7552 2 месяца назад
MORE IMPORTANTLY TO LEARN THE INSIDE TRUTH.
@Emation7
@Emation7 2 месяца назад
I was a huge Knicks fan as a kid and loved when Sprewell came to the Knicks. I did not like that certain sportscasters and reporters would never let the incident go. While Carlisimo went on to play victim and became a tv analyst.
@AlexL415
@AlexL415 2 месяца назад
You must carry around a tiny violin everywhere you go.
@DMalltheway
@DMalltheway 2 месяца назад
Joe Smith talked about it on DJ Vlad
@gilfordmccormack8140
@gilfordmccormack8140 2 месяца назад
Same
@eboooo
@eboooo 2 месяца назад
I thought PJ took some blame from what I heard.
@noodle123ify
@noodle123ify 2 месяца назад
same, man. I was gonna say that as a Knicks fan i want to thank PJ for sending us Sprewell! one of my favorite Knick players
@Welldunn
@Welldunn 2 месяца назад
It’s like the Bill Burr standup when he said “I wonder what she did”. There’s always context that leads to an event and the choke didn’t just manifest itself out of nowhere. What PJ did would be constituted as creating a hostile workplace environment and lead to termination in any other workplace.
@dwlc4288
@dwlc4288 2 месяца назад
Plus retaliation to the players for sticking by Sprewell's side
@davidsamuels9557
@davidsamuels9557 2 месяца назад
Excellent point. As Shaw said, Carlesimo brought that Bobby Knight college BS to the NBA. A white man talking to grown Black men like they were slaves led to the choke out.
@davidsamuels9557
@davidsamuels9557 2 месяца назад
​@@dwlc4288💯
@DD-sw1dd
@DD-sw1dd 2 месяца назад
26 years later. “Here’s an oily rag!”
@anthonylloyd6105
@anthonylloyd6105 2 месяца назад
That was dave chappelle
@tro8191
@tro8191 2 месяца назад
Which is why as a die hard born n raised in Oaktown Warriors fan, to this day, PROUDLY sport my SPREWELL jersey. I wore it to the victory parade in Oakland in ‘15 and ‘17 and while screaming for the team during the parade in the front row of the barricades, Adonal Foyle literally stopped his parade car, walked over to me and said “I love your jersey man”. Always a SPREE fan!!!
@PistachiosPurses
@PistachiosPurses 2 месяца назад
THERE YA GO!!! At least you know who the real ones are! ❤ Some of us weren't put on this planet for the BS!
@tro8191
@tro8191 2 месяца назад
@@PistachiosPurses u know it bro!!👍
@vicshephard9231
@vicshephard9231 2 месяца назад
✊🏿✊🏿
@crulio
@crulio 2 месяца назад
25 years and we finally get some insight into what went down, salute to B-Shaw and those other guys for being real ones and standing with Spree!
@MrBmick79
@MrBmick79 2 месяца назад
You can imagine how PJ felt the night this happened. Can't think of anything more humbling than getting choked out cuz you was talkin outta pocket to somebody. This clip needs to go viral. Its gold
@mykedynomite
@mykedynomite 2 месяца назад
Yes. Now I know why Spree went broke 😂
@vincenthammons-kd9du
@vincenthammons-kd9du 2 месяца назад
could be lying
@BigCheefaDaOG
@BigCheefaDaOG 2 месяца назад
​@@mykedynomite he came up off them rims
@mykedynomite
@mykedynomite 2 месяца назад
@BigCheefaDaOG no he actually didn't it wasn't his company. It was a sponsorship deal he lost 97 mill, he makes about 150k year now as a nyk representative
@KarlPostMalone
@KarlPostMalone 2 месяца назад
PJ did a complete 180 coaching style after that ordeal. Remember there were free agents that didn’t want to play for GS while he was head coach and some even veto trades.
@ddave7026
@ddave7026 2 месяца назад
Randolph Childress.. was the one of the Green Light dudes! Carlisemo detailed his career at Portland. Bum coach
@bryankennedy3719
@bryankennedy3719 2 месяца назад
​@@ddave7026I agree lol
@jdrmanmusiqking
@jdrmanmusiqking 2 месяца назад
Lol no he didn't. Theres a reason he was HATED in Brooklyn
@Zenigundam
@Zenigundam 2 месяца назад
That's the last time he told anyone to put some f---ing mustard on his passes.
@mikedecembre743
@mikedecembre743 2 месяца назад
A disrespectful coach ruined a player’s career then played victim
@rexracer5292
@rexracer5292 Месяц назад
The truth is he wasn't that good. He was lazy. His best year he was the 5th best scorer with a 41 percent fg percentage. He wasn't a great rebounder, passer, teammate. He only excelled at causing trouble. He never won a single championship. When your coach yells at you to try harder .. you try harder.. Unless you think you are too good to try harder. No one had to tell Jordan, Kobe or other true greats to try harder. He had many more years in the NBA with other teams and he wasn't great when Carlismo was not there... his stats just kept getting worse. No one remembers him as a great. He could not follow simple rules. JAJAJAJAJA
@NatesLiveTalk
@NatesLiveTalk Месяц назад
Your trippin...sprewell was very good and was a all star!​@@rexracer5292
@Jerrybonds25
@Jerrybonds25 27 дней назад
😂
@tonth1383
@tonth1383 22 дня назад
​@rexracer5292 PJ Carlisle should have stayed his a** in college and talked to them College kids like that. Hey, lucky spree Didn't break his m************ Jaw, you gotta give respect to get it when you're dealing with grown men. Don't talk s*** and then when that pressure come play the m************ victim.
@robertbui9030
@robertbui9030 20 дней назад
​@@rexracer5292 if he wasn't 'that good', why did he end up as the leading scorer for the Knicks in the 1999 NBA Finals? He averaged 26.0 PPG btw against a young Tim Duncan and David Robinson (Allan Houston averaged 21.6)
@oMaJoJ
@oMaJoJ 2 месяца назад
9 year old me had some pretty good intuition. My first thought was 'I wonder what his coach did to deserve that. That doesn't seem like something a person would just do.'
@PutridPenguinPoots
@PutridPenguinPoots 23 дня назад
100%. My first thought was "Damn that's crazy but there's got to be some reason why someone would just randomly choke their coach" Can't remember if sprewell was too or just showed up some but Horry and other basketball and football players were my student gym teachers in elementary school i.e. easy credits to hang out with kids so even as a Tennessee fan always followed those dudes in the league
@vharris5503
@vharris5503 2 месяца назад
I used to play basketball with someone who played at Seton when PJ was the coach. He flatly told me that he wasn't surprised when Sprewell choked him out cuz he used to talk to his players at Seton crazy
@cutime6712
@cutime6712 2 месяца назад
I remember when Seton Hall made they final four run. I was watching a game and the CBS announcer at the time Bill Raftery said PJ need to stop hollering at his players
@dantheman92317
@dantheman92317 14 дней назад
I know when Dan Hurley played for him it sounded like he had a real hard time.
@adangracia3763
@adangracia3763 2 дня назад
Did he choke his players too? Just wondering.
@chitzzz1384
@chitzzz1384 2 месяца назад
This shows how media destroyed spee, not taking his side of the story
@MrOctober44
@MrOctober44 2 месяца назад
Oh please. The guy was a violent thug. He had several violent run ins. Don't try to rewrite history
@troylee4196
@troylee4196 2 месяца назад
Media destroyed a lot of players smh
@MrOctober44
@MrOctober44 2 месяца назад
Oh please. He was a violent thug.
@andrewlowman8073
@andrewlowman8073 2 месяца назад
I'm pretty sure choking his coach destroyed his career
@heatman233223
@heatman233223 2 месяца назад
PJ deserved that shit. HE was warned and asked to leave spree alone. He pushed one more time and got them hands. When the players don't jump in right away, then knew he deserved that shit
@juice07x
@juice07x 2 месяца назад
Damn Brian Shaw is like the Forrest Gump of the NBA. He was around every great player and wild moments.
@goldenfreddy-gj5wy
@goldenfreddy-gj5wy 2 месяца назад
This incident is one I have never forgotten, even though I'm not a Warriors fan, I always wondered what happened, Latrell Spreewell never strike me as someone who would do something like that out of the blue, now it all makes sense.
@cappriment
@cappriment 2 месяца назад
I worked for ESPN back in the day, 1 night after a game, I bumped into B Shaw at a bar. We had this near exact conversation that night.
@562LA2THEBAY
@562LA2THEBAY 2 месяца назад
what u up to these days
@gffsgcc
@gffsgcc 2 месяца назад
He typed that from a bar​@@562LA2THEBAY
@KwisBwown
@KwisBwown 2 месяца назад
im GM of the Lakers fam @@562LA2THEBAY
@BigA678
@BigA678 2 месяца назад
It's so wild how certain type of people go out of their way to control the narrative and lie by omission
@roycedot
@roycedot 2 месяца назад
Username says cap😂
@loganross1861
@loganross1861 2 месяца назад
Can always tell when someone is being honest and straight about something. Body language, speech. He wasn’t trying to twist the story or anything.
@twizzy585ful
@twizzy585ful Месяц назад
Always is cap
@code0102stinks
@code0102stinks 28 дней назад
I had the same reaction and thought from him telling the story.
@deepdeep2279
@deepdeep2279 2 месяца назад
Miss that era of basketball. Thank you Spree for the great memories in Golden State. It was a heart breaker, you put your heart on the floor when you played. To this day we have respect for you and your game. Miss the Don Nelson summer basketball camps... " Owns it!.. ." with Cweb
@hello.gumption
@hello.gumption 2 месяца назад
When Sprewell was on and mentally into the game, it was poetry. I've never seen aggression meet finesse like that.. then and now. And he was a legitimate 2 way player. Legitimate, expend bulk energy on the best perimeter player then go and do some damage on offense. Fastest guy in the League. Dialed-in, prime '93, bald head, 1st Team Sprewell was on another level. What makes me lose my mind: Tim Hardaway recently said Sprewell never practiced in the off-season. He only worked during the season and then disappeared back home. He was a natural at this game.
@keithmurray3827
@keithmurray3827 2 месяца назад
And Sprewell didn't have a left hand and was STILL giving buckets 😂
@hello.gumption
@hello.gumption 2 месяца назад
@@keithmurray3827 To this day I still don't how this happens. The man made 1st team all NBA and 2nd team all defense. Scouting on him was make him dribble left. One of the most interesting players ever to pass through.
@jzk0517
@jzk0517 2 месяца назад
“I’m Latrell Sprewell I’ll choke the coach” -Lil B
@discowolf25
@discowolf25 2 месяца назад
“I choke the coach out like I’m sprewell!”
@dariousgraham6438
@dariousgraham6438 2 месяца назад
I don’t remember that bar 😂
@ChloeHotline
@ChloeHotline 2 месяца назад
That hoop life mixtape he had was fye lol
@LordDaveBradley
@LordDaveBradley 2 месяца назад
TYBG
@gibbsdmarcus
@gibbsdmarcus 2 месяца назад
😂😂 classic
@HoopsFYI
@HoopsFYI 2 месяца назад
"Regardless of rain or snow, sleet or hail / I kick street tales, choking 🥷 like I'm Sprewell / Golden State, holding your fate in the palm of my hand / Blow you away like it's a part of the plan" - Nature
@Blowtorchtheboyfriend
@Blowtorchtheboyfriend 2 месяца назад
I gotta call it like I see it !!!!
@Ant_Odom
@Ant_Odom 2 месяца назад
🔥 “Banned from TV”
@DaPrognosis
@DaPrognosis 2 месяца назад
Classic line from Nature “Banned from T.V. off the N.O.R.E. album ‘98!!!!
@kevinhousen2791
@kevinhousen2791 2 месяца назад
​@@DaPrognosisone of the hardest tracks ever straight bars from everyone.
@Where_Brklyn_At
@Where_Brklyn_At 2 месяца назад
One of the greatest opening bars ever.
@jayrule13
@jayrule13 2 месяца назад
This was a great synopsis of this situation. I knew about PJ being verbally coarse wih the players, but it is good to really find out the build-up to the incident and the fallout.
@whodey2379
@whodey2379 Месяц назад
The original “Fu@k around and find out”moment in NBA history 😂😂
@richardwilliams5842
@richardwilliams5842 2 месяца назад
For years I've always heard that PJ yelled out you can't cut the mustard towards Spree and that's when Spree got triggered and went off on him, after all these years I finally get to hear what really went down SMH LOL
@JoaquinTazabi
@JoaquinTazabi 2 месяца назад
Close, it was "put some mustard on it", which was White people talk for "throw it harder (the pass). Media is full of shit, but I already knew that.
@keithr.hammonds6653
@keithr.hammonds6653 2 месяца назад
Great to hear the details finally, but we knew the deal when it happened. Even Rod Strickland, who played under PJ previously made the comment, “…and y’all thought it was just me.”
@jamiethorpe5431
@jamiethorpe5431 2 месяца назад
This is one example for why players have taken control of their destiny through player movement.
@DASwitcha
@DASwitcha 2 месяца назад
Man you gotta love today's platforms where you can hear classic stories like this
@johnjung8394
@johnjung8394 2 месяца назад
As a long time Knicks fan Spree helped us get to the finals off the bench! Even though we didnt win he played hard for us! I still have my knicks spree jersey!!
@junebugboy5074
@junebugboy5074 2 месяца назад
what year? Sprewell was almost always a starter
@006ahenry
@006ahenry 2 месяца назад
Lifelong Knicks fan here, I own 2 Knicks jerseys. A Blue Sprewell & a white Oakley jersey. If I could only find an affordable John Starks Jersey
@johnjung8394
@johnjung8394 2 месяца назад
@@junebugboy5074 99
@derrick031072
@derrick031072 2 месяца назад
Bench? Wasn’t he a starter?
@tro8191
@tro8191 2 месяца назад
Good stuff! I still sport my Spree Warriors jersey!
@JKG_Brandon
@JKG_Brandon 2 месяца назад
Warriors Sprewell was on track for greatness man. Dude was my favorite player in the league back then. I have legit hate in my heart for PJ to this day. This just reaffirms all that.
@georgekouts
@georgekouts 2 месяца назад
Not too bright, are ya? I'm guessing you're not white either! lmao
@Zenigundam
@Zenigundam 2 месяца назад
He was still great on the Knicks, and this incident actually helped his legacy because now there are young fans who weren't even alive in '97 who know about him. If he had never choked out P.J. Carlesimo, he'd be as memorable as Mitch Richmond.
@kincamell2
@kincamell2 2 месяца назад
Gratitude for sharing I had the Sprewell Converse Acropolis. Fam was nice on the court. He was the franchise.
@SuperStewie83
@SuperStewie83 2 месяца назад
Thank you for this story. I was the biggest Spreewell fan back in his GS years and when this happened I felt kinda embarrassed to say I was a fan, but I still hung in there for him as a fan all throughout his career. This makes sense as to why he did what he did, and I don’t blame him for standing up for himself against an a-hole of a coach.
@DJRhude
@DJRhude 2 месяца назад
This is legit the first time I'm hearing this story from a player who was actually there. For years we only got the version the Warriors organization put out that painted Sprewell as a thug but I always knew better. I never rocked with Carlesimo, he didn't know how to talk to grown men without being disrespecful. I was so happy when the Knicks got Sprewell, he was a dawg.
@keymusabe7207
@keymusabe7207 2 месяца назад
He “⚫️” that’s why
@catastrophecookies6066
@catastrophecookies6066 2 месяца назад
I actually always thought Sprewell was a headcase(I was a kid when this happened)- crazy what a narrative can do 😅
@KClouisville
@KClouisville 2 месяца назад
@@catastrophecookies6066 He was a headcase....read up on this actual incident. Shaw oddly leaves out the fact that after the initial choking, Sprewell went to the showers and then went and found PJ and came out of nowhere attacking him again. He'd also been in notable fights with teammates before this incident, including one with Jerome Kersey where after the fight he came back with a two-by-four like he was Hacksaw Jim Duggan or something. Dude has had multiple legal issues since his playing days as well.
@jacobliston7339
@jacobliston7339 2 месяца назад
@@catastrophecookies6066 My brother in Christ, he choked his coach. He *is* a headcase.
@superflick100
@superflick100 2 месяца назад
No surprises that the white establishment would side with the coach and paint Sprewell as the villain.
@DV-ou1yu
@DV-ou1yu 2 месяца назад
Brian Shaw...didn't expect I would sit back and just listen to him. Good speaker.
@taharqa332
@taharqa332 2 месяца назад
You're definitely a white guy. I've heard this so many times from your kind about black men.
@DubbyDubois
@DubbyDubois 20 дней назад
Y not? He's been around forever
@DV-ou1yu
@DV-ou1yu 20 дней назад
@@DubbyDubois Doesn't mean he would be intereesting to listen too lol
@LegacyBridge
@LegacyBridge 2 месяца назад
I didn't realize that trades and a cut happened behind that. They gave the warning to the younger guys though. They knew it was comin'.
@yusufhasan302
@yusufhasan302 2 месяца назад
We finally get the other side of the story! Thank You!
@Slap1008
@Slap1008 2 месяца назад
We knew it! I say we cause anybody that really hoops ain’t gone choke they coach unless he was being disrespectful and overbearing
@730FlightRisk
@730FlightRisk 2 месяца назад
😂😂😂😂
@kinghov3695
@kinghov3695 2 месяца назад
😂 got a point
@gman2503
@gman2503 2 месяца назад
Exactly 🎯 🎯🎯💯💯💯
@tellall23
@tellall23 2 месяца назад
I cant believe it took me all this time to finally hear the full breakdown of the story! Thanks Brian!
@andrewpapastefan8258
@andrewpapastefan8258 2 месяца назад
Thanks Brian, always figured there was more to this story then we heard
@thescmoney
@thescmoney 13 часов назад
Great interview
@Jon-lp6qu
@Jon-lp6qu 2 месяца назад
Dude well spoken know how to tell a story dawg. No bullshit.
@alvin081988
@alvin081988 2 месяца назад
It's pretty obvious PJ was provoking Sprewell and the Anger switch got triggered
@mranderson8725
@mranderson8725 2 месяца назад
Doesn’t matter as black men we need to learn to control our anger
@Salhd10
@Salhd10 2 месяца назад
Provoking ?? Mf he’s the head coach , gee trynna have the team give more effort , they were losing.
@flodging
@flodging 2 месяца назад
@@mranderson8725 “as black” 😑
@allidoiswin9891
@allidoiswin9891 2 месяца назад
​@@flodgingright tf lol we ain't the only ones losing our cool, white boys shooting up schools every week. Stop generalizing
@jessicagalvan3358
@jessicagalvan3358 2 месяца назад
@@Salhd10they wasn’t losing cause spreewell they was losing cause they was trash..u see Steve Kerr yelling at klay and Wiggins and them? U see pop yelling at his team? U seen Phil yelling at Kobe? Or even pau? Or arrest? U seen smiths yelling at arrest and Jackson? Nah mf atfu
@mike2565
@mike2565 2 месяца назад
I was a freshman at Seton Hall in 1984 PJ’s 1st year as coach. Two memories stand out that told me PJ had it coming to him in the Sprewell attack. First, sophomore year my friends and I were playing half court 3 on 3 in Walsh gym the afternoon before an important Big East home game. Tech from ESPN wanted to install mic on the rim so we stopped playing. The guy was so nice he did not want to interrupt our game. Little did he know we were in Walsh because the school tore down our bubble facility for construction of a new and modern rec center. To accommodate current students during the 2 year construction, the school scheduled open gym and intramural games in Walsh. I remember 11pm tipoffs for some of those intramural games. 🙄 Meanwhile, the school raised tuition and board to help pay for construction. But, I digress. 😅 Anyway, the ESPN tech insisted we continue our game. We shrugged and continued to play, though very carefully, around him as he stood on a ladder setting up the rim mic. That’s when PJ came out of his office mid-court. When he saw us playing around the tech he immediately started screaming at us to stop and get the hell out of there. The tech spoke up and assured PJ that he insisted we keep playing. PJ just said, “Oh” then walked back into his office. No apology. No big deal but his behavior to immediately fly off the handle screaming at a group of students playing so carefully around that tech, realizing he was wrong then not thinking to apologize made a lasting impression on me…what an asshole. Second, we had graduated college and buddy and I traveled to Miami during winter for some warm, sunny winter weather and to watch Terry Dehere and PJ’s Seton Hall Pirates take on U of Miami in an away league game. Pirates were down single digit at half. Dehere, the team’s best player, was walking w/his teammates toward the locker room. PJ ran after him. When Dehere turned around PJ grabbed a fist full of Dehere’s jersey, pulled him in really close in his face and chewed Dehere’s ass out. We were sitting on the other side of the arena unable to hear what PJ was screaming at his star player but the spectacle was nothing but ugly, especially considering PJ was behaving like this w/a student athlete. However ugly PJ’s behavior, it worked. Pirates smacked the home team Miami in 2nd half to win another league game. Still, PJ’s behavior was certainly questionable despite the success. When I heard about the incident w/Latrell Sprewell I had an inkling PJ had it coming. That kind of behavior toward grown men gets a different response than from college kids. PJ had to learn the hard way and someone had to stand up. Though, Sprewell grabbing PJ by the throat (Once I witnessed paralegal grab an associate attorney by the throat in the workplace. Ed simply pushed Charlie too far. All was quickly forgotten and the team went to dinner together that night.) seemed a tad excessive. 🙃
@spooky-mulder
@spooky-mulder 2 месяца назад
Thank you for sharing this. Big time story. For decades I never believed the narrative and now P and B (and KG in the Darius Miles podcast) confirmed the script the NBA spewed about Sprewell was/is a total distortion. Even the "feed my family" remark--dude averaged 20ppg, most threes by any player in the 2004 playoffs, TWolves finally made it out of the first round, KG was stoked. You should get paid for successful performance considering that team's postseason history. Instead, Taylor offered half of what Spree was making for three years. Then you see non all star guys like Chandler Parsons (never averaged 17ppg, no defense) get max dollars while the media skewers Sprewell. What's wrong with this picture. #FreeSpree
@scottgibson6022
@scottgibson6022 2 месяца назад
Sprewell tried to hold up the Timberwolves after a single season. A pure merecenary move. His greed helped to ruin what might have been. Commenters on these stories endorse a complete "me-first" mentality that can end teams. Both Sprewell and Cassell ended the Wolves' chances due to their selfishness.
@spooky-mulder
@spooky-mulder 2 месяца назад
False. Thoroughly greedy billionaire and crooked politician glen taylor viewed players as nothing more than commodities and didn't reward SUCCESS. MN had never been out of thr 1st round in 7 tries prior to Spree and Sam's arrival. Management's plantation mentality, voracious greed and ungratefulness, knowing zilch about team chemistry, did MN in and they reverted to where they were before bringing those two in.
@briansprewell5844
@briansprewell5844 2 месяца назад
Cuz stood on business 😂😂😂
@getmoneychill6462
@getmoneychill6462 2 месяца назад
Nah that was pretty stupid.Spree lost millions because he couldn’t control his emotions
@briansprewell5844
@briansprewell5844 2 месяца назад
@@getmoneychill6462 true but no amount of money is worth more than self respect.
@briansprewell5844
@briansprewell5844 2 месяца назад
@@getmoneychill6462 true but no amount of money is worth more than self respect
@reiserkeiser
@reiserkeiser 2 месяца назад
Cuz acted the part.
@hilltop565
@hilltop565 2 месяца назад
​@@getmoneychill6462fvk you! You want people like us to just shut up even if we are disrespected. Go off yourself
@byrondhouston
@byrondhouston 2 месяца назад
I remember when Sprewell and I got into it in practice at Golden State! He was a great guy and fierce competitor.
@MattMoseley-zu5ss
@MattMoseley-zu5ss 2 месяца назад
Like former player Byron Houston?
@byrondhouston
@byrondhouston 2 месяца назад
That is me!
@unxpctd79molowe23
@unxpctd79molowe23 2 месяца назад
THANK you!
@mickeyraps
@mickeyraps 2 месяца назад
*He was listening to "Protect your neck"*
@ryanm5578
@ryanm5578 2 месяца назад
Thanks for posting this. I've never heard the actual story before. Nuance can add much more to even long-held opinions, lol. Thanks again.
@GrizzINK
@GrizzINK 2 месяца назад
Listening 2 Wu-Tang to later play 4 NY had 2 be dope lol
@terrygoosedowning171
@terrygoosedowning171 2 месяца назад
Great story about Spree, one of my fav players from his time with Knicks
@2307frosty
@2307frosty 2 месяца назад
Wow.....getting that backdrop was great....love Latrel PG and Hali see u n Indy next year!!
@Mrcool19771
@Mrcool19771 2 месяца назад
Interesting, a few years later , former NBA player and Bulls GM John paxson , was mad at bulls coach Vinny Del negro , came to a practice and choked the coach , the NBA kept this quiet and nothing was done to Paxson. Quite a double standard.
@athleticchipnyc
@athleticchipnyc 2 месяца назад
You already know the deal with that situation compared to the Spree-PJ confrontation 🙄
@nyquiloxide941
@nyquiloxide941 Месяц назад
Yes.
@gobot581
@gobot581 Месяц назад
Bulls GM Paxson choking Negro is a wild headline
@nanagyambibi7426
@nanagyambibi7426 2 месяца назад
As someone that worked in college sports…the head coach in college is damn near a God…but in the pros, you are damn near coworkers. You are leading these men but you cannot disrespect them.
@bjnt92281
@bjnt92281 2 месяца назад
Even Pop who’s know to be a hard nosed, no nonsense coach understands this.
@NotEnuff8
@NotEnuff8 2 месяца назад
​@@bjnt92281cuz he respects hard work and discipline. He see nothing outside the lines of work ethic. I tend to respect those who keep business business and we don't know much about them personally
@davejeffar6271
@davejeffar6271 2 месяца назад
As a starter small-forward, but he was undersized (6'4). Alan Houston played shooting-guard, but switched with Spree on defense.
@VillainArch22
@VillainArch22 2 месяца назад
Story went exactly how I thought it would. 🤣
@holstorrsceadus1990
@holstorrsceadus1990 2 месяца назад
Choking PJ made Spree my favorite player in the league
@Des_Zee
@Des_Zee 2 месяца назад
Remember that was still David Sterns NBA. It was his way or the highway
@chicaliqc
@chicaliqc 2 месяца назад
As the refs and owners were running wild!
@jackjohnsonjohnson8610
@jackjohnsonjohnson8610 2 месяца назад
Yep allowing refs to turn first class seats in for a refund then flying coach,fixing games,targeting players,and disallowing legitimate trades so others could prosper
@anthonyjones634
@anthonyjones634 2 месяца назад
Yep. The league was definitely different back then. Players were damn near treated like slaves for real. Gag orders, blacked balled, cut, and traded for standing together and speaking out.
@pdigi3179
@pdigi3179 2 месяца назад
@@anthonyjones634 and now the NBA is a complete trash product and damn near unwatchable. There absolutely has to be order and hierarchy.
@marquesedeshields4045
@marquesedeshields4045 2 месяца назад
Sprewell with Wu Tang in his headphones is a crazy combo
@DanielEscamillaPueblo
@DanielEscamillaPueblo 2 месяца назад
This was about a year or two before I became a Warriors fan, I was 7 at the time but I always heard about this and it is nice to finally get the full breakdown.
@LaPelotaenlaCabeza
@LaPelotaenlaCabeza 2 месяца назад
As a longtime Warriors fan, I remember this being the very dark days where it seemed like everything would go wrong. A few years before this incident they had Hardaway, Sprewell, Mullin and Webber, NBA contenders and it all fell apart within a few weeks with Webber getting traded and everybody else getting injured. I had read about this incident so I figured there had to be some sort of build up before a player does that to a coach. While it's wrong, a coach has to earn the respect of the team and apparently that wasn't the case here.
@nessdagoat
@nessdagoat 2 месяца назад
B Shaw is the guy! Knew him since I was a kid. He used to be real cool with Reggie Lewis back in the day
@nicolasaguilar1258
@nicolasaguilar1258 2 месяца назад
He seems like an awesome dude
@botmonmon6089
@botmonmon6089 2 месяца назад
Ray lewis?
@botmonmon6089
@botmonmon6089 2 месяца назад
Reggie Bush?
@Gemini_74
@Gemini_74 2 месяца назад
Cap
@wheresyosefbenyosef
@wheresyosefbenyosef 2 месяца назад
RIP
@brkjeff
@brkjeff 2 месяца назад
*Spree & Allan Houston🔥🧊* *Fire & Ice*
@johnbolton2149
@johnbolton2149 2 месяца назад
Never did you hear anyone in media ponder what PJ had done or said to provoke this.
@da11king
@da11king 2 месяца назад
As an adolescent back in 1997, I always wanted to know what went down. The only image I had in my mind was Sprewell as the villain and PJ as the victim. Great story 😊
@bernyourhart
@bernyourhart 2 месяца назад
Seeing Joe Smith at the airport “you got traded too?” 😂 “Nah they cut me” 💀
@jaycurry5593
@jaycurry5593 2 месяца назад
Dickey Simpkins got cut...not Joe Smith, tf you talkin bout?
@terencejones4057
@terencejones4057 2 месяца назад
You clearly didn't listen well enough because that ain't even what b-shaw said fam
@spencerwhitsett9350
@spencerwhitsett9350 2 месяца назад
​@@jaycurry5593😂😂
@christiantrujillo4923
@christiantrujillo4923 2 месяца назад
Brian Shaw is real af
@hoosier3060
@hoosier3060 2 месяца назад
We loved him when he was assistant with the Pacers. It was nice to see him and Paul interact outside of that.
@athleticchipnyc
@athleticchipnyc 2 месяца назад
Thank you PJ. As a Knick fan, we loved having him here with us ✊🏿
@CooreValues
@CooreValues 2 месяца назад
Wow great take on this
@gilfordmccormack8140
@gilfordmccormack8140 2 месяца назад
PJ should've left well enough alone 😂 😂😂😂.
@ufukpolat3480
@ufukpolat3480 2 месяца назад
Golden State wasn't well enough. Sprewell was an inefficient shot chucker.
@2H2521
@2H2521 2 месяца назад
⁠@@ufukpolat3480Carmelo Anthony & Russell Westbrick are the true definition of inefficient.
@kinghov3695
@kinghov3695 2 месяца назад
@@2H2521😂
@taharqa332
@taharqa332 2 месяца назад
He knew he had "WHITE" on his side.
@vicshephard9231
@vicshephard9231 2 месяца назад
I think PJ knows better now.
@CreamyItalian
@CreamyItalian 2 месяца назад
Can't keep poking the bear. From the beginning, it always sounded like the whole picture wasn't being shown to the public.
@uriellevelupriley684
@uriellevelupriley684 2 месяца назад
💯🎯
@KingAmaniImani
@KingAmaniImani 2 месяца назад
What's crazy is the same day I was in college and was about to get at my college coach. Words were exchanged, suspension handed out, but with the support of my team, the college community and my accountability plus an apology to my team and the coach we were able to reconcile.
@BigDukes4U
@BigDukes4U 2 месяца назад
Thank you
@markextv
@markextv 2 месяца назад
So pretty much PJ provoked Latrell? Got it!
@user-tt1hx2nm4p
@user-tt1hx2nm4p 2 месяца назад
Whatever you thugs wanna believe
@bjensen
@bjensen 2 месяца назад
​​@@user-tt1hx2nm4p PJ absolutely provoked Sprewell. Sprewell shouldn't have choked him but being the head coach doesn't mean you can be an asshole with impunity. Do you just simp for the coach each time? Do you think Bobby Knight (Lucifer rest his soul🙏) was a thug for choking his players, and then lying about? Or was that different somehow?
@JoaquinTazabi
@JoaquinTazabi 2 месяца назад
​@@bjensenYou shut that anonymous racist right up
@trell_money7789
@trell_money7789 2 месяца назад
​@@user-tt1hx2nm4p I guess tht means P.J. goofy a$$ a thug too for provoking Sprewell u 🤡
@shaheemtaylor960
@shaheemtaylor960 2 месяца назад
@@user-tt1hx2nm4p You have to be a troll
@JoePesciVSBillyBatts
@JoePesciVSBillyBatts 2 месяца назад
99 Spreewell Knicks is the first team I ever rooted for. Great player for 2-3 years.
@je9212
@je9212 2 месяца назад
You do know sprewell was a 3× time All Star with Golden State warriors before the Knicks he was Arguably the 2 best SG in the Entire NBA from 93-97💥
@BacktothaBaysiccs510
@BacktothaBaysiccs510 2 месяца назад
I was 11 years old on 38th n foothill east oakland n remeberd this..im 37 now n its the first time hearing from a teamate about it.
@asylum1166
@asylum1166 2 месяца назад
At the time it’s interesting they didn’t tell this side but shoutout to Shaw for clearing it up
@bigpoppa6658
@bigpoppa6658 2 месяца назад
Them 90s OGs built different. Not scared of anything, that's how to played and approached the game. Reason why they played more defense and not scared of the physicality
@TommyDJr45
@TommyDJr45 2 месяца назад
I ALWAYS wanted to know more about this!
@enricorios2822
@enricorios2822 2 месяца назад
I remember this like it was yesterday. They made Sprewell look like the ultimate villain. We only heard one side of the story back then. I’m glad we finally get the whole story.
@tro8191
@tro8191 2 месяца назад
B. Shaw tellin the truth! Thank you for breakin it down for us my fellow Dragon! BOD class of ‘86!
@rodneysam3574
@rodneysam3574 2 месяца назад
I knew there had to be something more behind this incident. I remember it well.
@ryandavis6245
@ryandavis6245 2 месяца назад
You obviously don't remember it well if you never knew what PJ did.
@vanessagrayman2194
@vanessagrayman2194 2 месяца назад
Sounds like a good ole boys club back then…
@ryandavis6245
@ryandavis6245 2 месяца назад
You have his jersey and still can't spell Sprewell, lol.
@mranderson8725
@mranderson8725 2 месяца назад
@@ryandavis6245😂😂😂
@vanessagrayman2194
@vanessagrayman2194 2 месяца назад
@@ryandavis6245 🌽 🏀
@vanessagrayman2194
@vanessagrayman2194 2 месяца назад
@@mranderson8725 🌽 🏀
@blackceaser1819
@blackceaser1819 2 месяца назад
Still is
@flamejanes1865
@flamejanes1865 2 месяца назад
Wow in '97 I was 24 yo & remember this incident like it was yesterday but never ever heard any details like this 😲
@aquill1
@aquill1 2 месяца назад
It's interesting how a story can sound so convincing if other history and behavior is missed or not talked about. Shaw is a great story teller, but his story misses the fact that Spree came outta the locker room and punched his coach in the face, well after he choked him. He had anger issues prior to this incident. This incident and the actions that took place likely saved Latrell's career. Shaw wouldn't know about this because these issues occurred before he was on the team. Love to have a session that goes through each of the Lakers big seasons. I bet he has hundreds of interesting things to add.
@marby.
@marby. 2 месяца назад
That went beyond coaching and spilled into challenging one's manhood. Was it wrong to attack him physically? Yes, but PJ provoked the situation all the way
@johnnguyen6469
@johnnguyen6469 2 месяца назад
A person who is that easily provoked has no place in a civil society
@johnnguyen6469
@johnnguyen6469 2 месяца назад
What exactly did he say, did he talk about his mother even? Give me a break. He was coaching him hard that is all
@shaheemtaylor960
@shaheemtaylor960 2 месяца назад
@@johnnguyen6469coaching hard is different from cursing the dude out disrespecting him. Huge difference between the two
@joemama-nq9ve
@joemama-nq9ve 2 месяца назад
tell me why carlesimo went after sprewell the most, why not everybody else?@@johnnguyen6469
@jaycurry5593
@jaycurry5593 2 месяца назад
​@johnnguyen6469 a person who tries to provoke another doesn't belong in a civilized society. Wanna play victim...smfh
@walterwlim
@walterwlim 2 месяца назад
6:07 Felton Spencer: RIP
@dwitt4574
@dwitt4574 2 месяца назад
Great breakdown.
@user-zm9ce9tl3d
@user-zm9ce9tl3d 2 месяца назад
Legendary this story, I remember this as a kid. It was crazy.
@Barncore
@Barncore 2 месяца назад
Great story tellin
@8mathdaddy
@8mathdaddy 2 месяца назад
Shaw is a really good storyteller. 👍
@Ddrews-nf4gq
@Ddrews-nf4gq 2 месяца назад
I always knew there was something said prior to the choking incident. Thanks for providing the other side of the story. Spre was one of my favorite players seemed like an intelligent guy. I knew he wasn't the type to just snap and choke out his coach! It's amazing how things get twisted in the media to suit the offenders. Never heard PJ say anything regarding his involvement in this.
@ShowtimeDr
@ShowtimeDr День назад
I remember years later they asked P.J "Why did Sprewell choke you out?" "I have no idea." Dude lies so hard lol.
@solonfroilan897
@solonfroilan897 2 месяца назад
After all these years.. I was always curious to both sides of the story
@ThanosIsWatching
@ThanosIsWatching 2 месяца назад
I’m glad you told this story man Latrell Sprewell was one of my favorite players man. I’m 30 and it didn’t hit me when i was younger but to me it’s like he just disappeared! Smh
@HoopsFYI
@HoopsFYI 2 месяца назад
Spree took the Knicks to the Finals and took Minnesota to the WC Finals after that. His career ended after he demanded too much money in Free Agency.
@ronaldwilliams9635
@ronaldwilliams9635 2 месяца назад
This is so dope to hear, the funny thing is I asked myself the other day out the blue, WHAT LEAD TO SPREE CHOKING CARLISEMO 💀👀
@angieiluvme
@angieiluvme 2 месяца назад
I remember playing against Felton Spencer in high school dude was huge RIP Felton
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