The KEY Reason Why Phil Jackson Coached Kobe Differently Than Shaq 

B-Shaw is one of the greatest storytellers i've seen, seems like he knows shit from every era in the NBA, the ultimate guest on a podcast! GJ bringing him P

Kobe getting vice grips after phil said mj was better bc of the hands, is Mamba Mentality personified lmao. Rest Easy 24

Phil Jackson deserves alot more credit then he is given. Coach and philosopher.

I've always said this about Phil Jackson. His greatest strength as a coach wasn't because of his basketball IQ, but his human emotional IQ that allowed him to UNDERSTAND his players more than they knew themselves. Phil Jackson was like that understanding, nurturing, low-key grandpa who always made you feel special for helping him out yet you're not realising there was an exercise in doing these tasks beneath it all. In the end it was a win win situation because he never made you feel pressured and you learned and got better.

This might be the most insightful kobe vid I’ve seen. Shaw literally gave you the reason kobes confidence was so high. They never told Kobe no

Phil was the type of coach who would coach players differently versus the type of coach who treated everyone the same. Both methods can work if you're a great coach. However, I don't see any other coach that could've handled the Bulls with people like Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, etc. and have that kind of success or the Lakers with Shaq and Kobe.

Kobe had the mindset of vegetta when it came to basketball 🏀.. always looking to be better than yesterday

Shoutout to B-Shaw on giving out game with the German shepherds 😂. I’m bout to get me a a German shepherd puppy soon, so thanks for the tidbits 🫡

Coach on the court. Brian Shaw was always a great role player. A player a team needed for that calm and cool mentality. There is not a team made that a Brian Shaw can not help. Sacrifice. One Love

Shoutout Brian Shaw on the Heart and Hustle Magic teams in the early 00s

I like that. Nurture the monster for your attack dog. Players that lack the clutch gene is because they’re scared of failing

No Cap i did not expect BShaw to be dropping this much heat 🔥

😂😂😂 "soon as Phil said that you see Kobe in the locker room with vice grips" 💯 and he prolly ran back Come Fly With Me and Hang Time twice a day for the rest of the season😂🤣😂🤣 Kobe Kob is the coldest! Shout to Kobe, Mike, & Phil!

B Shaw was able to be a mediator for Kobe and Shaq. That lets you know how zen he is

That was an absolutely brilliant story from Shaw.

B-Shaw is awesome dude! Thank you for memory lane for us guys who grew up in the 90's!

WOW this breakdown just gave me a new appreciation for Phil Jackson! Knowing how a person was raised dictated his coaching style that's awesome.

Phil is the Zen Master. What made him successful was to deeply analyze the personalities of each of his players and extract the most. Especially the stars like MJ, Pip, Rodman, Shaq, Pau and Kobe. He's one of a kind.

The best podcast out in my opinion! Appreciate dropping gems

Out of everything said: You got to give huge credit to Coach Jackson for having the wisdom to apply this. It totally - TOTALLY make sense now looking back at the whole thing!

lol kobe exercising his hand grips.. hilarious, yet so insightful

This whole interview is fantastic. Thank you!

Yall gotta read/listen to Phill Jackson 11 Rings book. Such great insight to his coaching throughout his career

Great insight from a humble man🙌🏾

Brian shaw needs his own show

Mike Tomlin of the Steelers said it best….’I’d rather have to say ‘whoa’ than ‘sic em’

Wow. This cool to hear. Props for being so open. 💯

This is such a good outlook and story.

This podcast was the absolute best BShaw is a legend

Great analogy B Shaw!

Phil told Shaq that Wilt played every minute of every game for a whole season to motivate him into the best shape of his life.

Great insight. But to further this point, I'd love to hear him talk about how this relates to the 2003 season when Kobe had 9 straight games with 40+ points, and Phil told Kobe to pull back and score less so Shaq could get more involved once he returned during that streak. Individally, Kobe could have done even more insane stuff but he was playing for championships.

Phil raised Kobe to be a crazy Pitt. Love it

This is good stuff !

Great interviewee

At least they waited til the end with the price picks shyt. Respect.

I remember Kobe being obsessed with hand grips later on. So that was why... You can even see on his interviews that his ring fingers are almost stretched beyond its natural point. Man was fuckin nuts!

DANG Phil, you should've made that comment on MJ's hands while he was Frobe. 🤦🏾😂

B-Shaw needs another Head Coaching Position

B-Shaw left out is that Kobe trained harder and longer than everyone else. So Phil Jackson never had to ask pre-Achilles Tear Kobe to train or work harder.

Yet another fact that proved Kobe was NEVER carried. It’s “Shaq and kobe” or “kobe and Shaq” never “Shaq’s lakers”. Shaq was the best but they were literally a “dynamic duo”

Its weird especially Phil going at Kobe like that in his book.

This is true and maybe misunderstood by most. But I am a dog trainer. I train personal protection and guard dogs. My foundation training is all about confidence. Establishing a fuck the world attitude, its only us. Phil had to test and probe Kobe, like I do with my dogs and kids. Only way you can find out who they are is instilling confidence to be themselves. From there you must hardware obedience into them until it becomes second nature. The aggression most first and foremost come out of obience. Kobe early on wasn't as secure within himself as Shaq may have been. Kobe socialization process was search attack and destroy. It was a constant instance of proving himself. Shaq socialization process was always I already know I can destroy you,but the question was when. Because he didn't want to hurt or injure anyone. I understand this. Right now I have a 186lbs Bandog that I had to gradually toughen up at his own pace. Where as my german shepherd was like Kobe, observant and looking to defend from day one.

Phil Jackson is on record as saying, he hated coaching. Kobe, and Kobe was uncatchable.

AYO I NEED HIM AS MY THERAPIST 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿🖤PHIL JACK ZEN MASTER

Kobe is pure competitive madness! 🔥

Zen master just zennin and winnin

Shaw in the middle of some legendary shit. Phil had great players, but also knew how to coach them.

3:56 I can totally see Kobe carrying those finger strengthener tools with him everywhere he went and using them 24/7 🤣 dude was just built different

It’s really disrespectful how the conversation just skipped over Kobe and went straight to Lebron vs. Jordan. He deserved much more respect than that from the basketball community. Taking nothing away from Lebron 🙏🏾

B shaw is the man

Good point

Shoutout to PG for asking some real ass questions

I swear dude was just built different. The greats before me did X well I’ll do 2X. We are lucky the 3PT wasn’t what it is now back then. Kobe would be working on his 3 like crazy.

Kobe the best 🫶🏽🫡🏀

This is why phil was the goat... he had to cater his coaching to extreme egos... pop didnt have to deal with that much... TD, david robinson, parker, ginobili.. all low key superstars/all stars

That's interesting the relation he gave about the dog and Kobe. When a person's confidence is shot: Do they have anything

Notice how he said Phil didn't do that at first. During their 2nd stint, I've personally seen Phil chew out Kobe "SIT DOWN!" while pointing at the bench.

Love kobe stories, kobe bean

Kobe was something else lol 😅

Well Put Shaw

Must have been quite an adjustment for Phil too. Coming from coaching MJ, where MJ while being the man was also more coachable due to his college stint being coached by Dean Smith and even Bob Knight, to Kobe who was probably used to do his own thing unless you really impressed him with the reasoning for why something should be done. That willingness to adjust is just as impressive.

Palming the ball doesn’t make u a better basketball player , Phil needed something to say , Kobe would have kicked Jordan’s butt one on one

As great as a coach Phil was with the Lakers and all he accomplished his greatness only went so far as it relates to managing the teammate personalities of Kobe & Shaq... To this day I can't understand how a "great motivator" like Phil Jackson, his reputational calling card, couldn't find a way for Shaq/Kobe to exist and play longer together; to essentially chase and earn more rings together

Phil really see something special in Kobe.

Phil Jackson the diabolical genius!!

thriple threat position fakes with a palmed ball is unstoppable if you think about it

Chuck daly said something similar when he coached the bad boys. He could cuss out some players, but others he wouldn't because they wouldn't react well, I think it was Mark Aguire.

i believe that there are exactly two kinds of people. those who would wear their own image and name on a shirt, and those who wouldn´t.

That’s a great analogy. When Phil got Mike, mj was already a full grown German shepherd.. when Phil got Kobe he was still a German shepherd puppy 😂😂😂

Phil Jackson could’ve been a psychologist

Compared to foreign basketball coaches, NBA coaches, I believe, are primarily personality managers and culture setters rather than tacticians

Phil just has a brilliant mind for basketball. MJ and Kobe's success was largely in part to that man's genius.

Shaw is a smart hooper

The difference between Phil & most coaches is he understood Love Languages. Once you know someone’s love language you can understand them better.

Phil was brilliant

He FROM Philly and played against all dogs …go look at his game vs Chester hs …

I KNEW YA’LL WOULD LISTEN TO ME AND CLIP THIS!!! Lol.

Podcast P with Paul George i hope you're next guest is Jaylen Brown 😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤

phil is your caring grandfather. who knows you more than your parents.

Thats why hes the goat coach

This is just another example of why Phil is the GOAT.

Kobe built different!

Mike had the hands and 48 inch vertical but Kobe’s jumper was better, especially from 3.

That's why Phil Jackson is the GOAT coach.

Yea, okay. Not with Corsos. My girl would be a monster if I didn’t enforce boundaries day one; and her confidence is great for an 8 month old pup, but to the point, Kobe wanted to be the best and worked towards that; and saw his hard work manifest into success on the court. That alone is inspirational and will lead to confidence.

Its crazy how success can shape a narrative cuz if those Lakers didnt win those rings, we'd all be saying "in hindsight its bad coaching to neglect your future HoF Star and thhe entire rest of the team to play favorites for your young star" or "damn, Kobe really wasnt a good teammate." The more i learn about the early 2000s Lakers, the more dysfunctional i realize it was. So glad they got the 3peat before all was said and done tho

RIP Black Mamba

Phill Jackson told the world b.shaw just said it the damn trainer said it KOBE n MIKE ARE THE SAME PLAYERS Who u want Bigger hands Better long ball shooter

Without watching this interview I can comment on that. Because they were two different people.

To me Kobe was the definition of the tragic hero. His greatest strength - Mamba Mentality - that led him to the top was the same thing that led to his downfall where he wrecks his body and alienates teammates. I think Phil has gone on record saying he knew he wouldn’t be able to effectively coach Kobe late in Kobe’s career

Phil Jackson was ....for Hoops ...was a genius or Guru of the highest order.

That dog better be doing positive things...true confidence...comes from no deception...alpha WISE DOG WILL BE CONFIDENT UNDER...RAGE. POSITIVE...

It’s easy to coach everybody the same. It’s next level to coach each player the way he needs to be coached. Maybe that’s why Phill has 9-10 rings as a coach and Pop only 5

Phil is an MK handler “allegedly”

MJ: I got bigger hands, so I'm better Kobe: Hold my vice grips

My high ahh thought this was Lamar Odom bald ahh thts y i picked this video💀😭

That's why my dad called Phil ( Fila ).

Didn't know Kobe couldn't palm a ball, I can do it and I'm definitely shorter, 6'2" with 11 inch hand span. Never really mastered palming straight out of a dribble, but I could still do it without grip training lol.

Gonna sound a bit corny and I am in no way comparing myself to the greatest basketball coach of all time Phil Jackson but I knew the answer before watching the whole video being a high school coach for a few years, some players are very hard on themselves and have incredible work ethics, even at a JV level. Some players need a fire lit under them and need some adversity.