What REALLY Happened to Earth? Starfield Lore - Plus, All Earth Snow Globes 

I love how Ox's storage locker is just snow globes and a bottle of red harvest reserve 😅

We're asking the wrong question. The question should not be "why didn't victor tell himself the correct equation." The question should be "why is is necessary for earth to be destroyed so humanity can progress?" Because the unity is an enitity with access to a theoretically infinite universe. So logically, there must be a universe where both earth survives and humanity conquers the stars. Yet in all the New Game plus universes we never see that, nor do we find empty worlds where everything is destroyed. You could just say "hurr durr Bethesda can't write." I think there is more too it.

I was extremely sad when I first saw the Earth in this game. My only thought was "How? How could we have abandoned our home?"

It sucks that most of the old earth ruins are modern skyscrapers. It would have been nice if you could see landmarks like the Grand Canyon or the Presidential Monument

Got this game for Christmas and I am having an absolute blast!! I can see why some people don’t like it but as an RPG fan it’s a ton of fun!! Thanks for the videos man, looking forward to seeing more in the future!

If people can settle on moons or barren planets, I suppose people can settle on Earth.

What blows my mind is how everyone is 'meh/whatever' about Earth by the time of the game events. It's not like Earth is missing or just a myth like in Battlestar Galactica or isaac Asimov's Foundation's Edge/Foundation and Earth. Also I wonder how many people were left behind on Earth in Starfield. Human numbers seem to be rather low for what was supposed to be a mass exodus.

Maybe he did not know how to solve the Grav-Drive problem, but he thought telling himself would give the other him more time to solve the issue. And in the end, he was right. They did solve the problem, but it was too late. Then, there's the issue of why he did not warn him of what happened. This could also be because he figured his other self would not pursue the technology if he knew the outcome.

Keep making starfield content Oxhorn there is some of us out there who love this game

I'm addicted to this game I cannot stop playing. Hope you make more content for this!

Loving the Starfield lore vids. Feels like a documentary lol

That ain't doctor aiza, that's nick valentine. He's a synth!

My answer to your question at the end Ox is this, (Spoilers if you haven't finished the game yet) assuming this version of Victor was Starborn, and he'd lived through multiple versions of his own discovery of the grave drive, it must have been the ones where the earth became uninhabitable that the settled systems actually developed into what it is. thus, when his self in this timeline touched the mars artifact and he was able to give himself the calculations for the Grav drive, it's entirely possible he decided to Not give him the grav drive that wouldn't cause the Sputtering of the earth's atmosphere because he knew that for the settled systems to happen Earth had to be lost. this is pure speculation on my part, but that seems to be the most likely answer given the multi-verse they are aiming for. But you have to wonder, what would the settled systems be like if Earth hadn't needed to be abandoned. what would have happened in the Colony war? or would the Colony War have happened at all? that's the biggest issue with Multi-verse anything, you can literally make the case for anything happening.

I’ve been binging on horn videos (fallout 3/4 and new Vegas) the last 3 weeks. Love them! Merry Christmas everyone!

Merry Christmas, Oxhorn! You bring Cheer all through the Years!

Thank you for this amazing content, Ox! I genuinely hope that everyone whos watched this has enjoyed this for what it was, regardless of people's opinions of this game

I always got the impression that Victor did tell him what would happen and even gave himself the choice of not causing the Earths destruction, but doing so would have set back humanities exploration of the rest of the galaxy. Victor just chose to go with the Earth dies and humanity spreads across the galaxy option. My crackpot theory is that it wasn't Victor giving himself information, but whoever was that created the unity, as humanity moving to the stars and the constant traveling through the unity was something that they wanted for whatever reason. Now how would this entity have fooled Victor into thinking it was him giving him the information? Starborn can call on alternate versions of others to fight for them, so having them stand in and tell their other selves what they want to hear shouldn't be outside of the abilities of whoever created the unity.

now THIS is what ive been waiting for

I love this game, I still play it, try new things in every game plus. Right now I'm on GP lvl 6 and my character is badass and the game is just hilarious as hell to me. Constantly having wacky stuff happen. This was my game of the year

Victor sounds like the kind of scientist that would wear a trenchcoat and fedora. Maybe have bad skin, and a piercing gaze. Maybe its just me.

Glad someone is answering this question.

This video ended around the 20 minute mark, then it's just snow globe hunting and it just made me wonder 'How are these buildings still standing? What are they made out of? Why is there nothing in the surrounding areas?' Excellent lore video for the first half anyway.

Jerry Seinfeld: (looks at earth). “Oh, well that’s a shame” lol 😂. Seriously though the lore on earth is really cool and of course tragic. I built my first space base on earth 🌎 right next to the NASA 🚀 launch site. Got a clear view of that NASA spot from my characters bedroom window. It’s just perfect. Awesome video Ox! 😎👍🏼

Idc what people say, i loved this game, i mean, sure, i have so many issues, but the lore, the moments of classic bethesda, it just was so damn good

I will never forget how emotional visiting Earth was in the game with "The Sol System" score playing... such an amazing game

Another great lore video. Oxhorn is my favorite lore content creator always delivers. Hope he does a lore video on the Derelict Clemens' Truth near a moon of the planet Gaea in the Lunara system. Something I discovered on my second playthrough.

I finally finished the main story! (Casual gamer dad here) I can finally watch lore videos 😂

Why does Victor sound like a little like Dima from Fallout 4

I would assume that the thing he saw when he touched the artifact was made to look like him to facilitate communication. Sort of like the movie "Contact".

Ox!!!!!!! Thanks for posting this. Talk about amazing stocking stuffer like gift for Christmas

Please more videos like this I miss the old days

Q. Why is earth so wiped out after only a couple hundred years!? Somehow losing gravity and an atmosphere destroyed everything down to sand?!?? Several stone pyamids, seriously ?. Bethesda being lazy. What kills me about this game... Bethesda is owned by Micro$oft.... Why don't all of the computers run some sort of of "Windows 10" (You know the last OS you will never need per Micro$oft, wait, there is 11 now hmm). There is no trademark problem and it would imply Micro$oft os so awesome that people still use Windows.

clearly the other Victor Knew and did not tell his self about the "error" because there was none...it was intentional so that Humankind as a whole would be Forced to Leave before they fell victim to themselves. Since Prime Victor has been to more than one universe Id hazard to guess that somewhere along the way a Humanity with a Perfect Grave drive stayed mostly home and died out because they never dispersed.

Stephen Russell is The Voice Actor for Victor Aiza (Starfield) & Mercer Frey (Skyrim)

@oxhorn are you going to do a video on fallout london?

The sound you hear inside the pyramid sounds just like the sound from the pyramid/face from mission to mars.

It reminds me of the invention of the steamboat engine, and all the repercussions combustion engines have had on our planet since

How many times do we hear the term "sputter" to refer to the loss of the world's atmosphere? You'd think there would be a more scientific term in vogue for such a cataclysmic event. Like " The atmosphere just buggered off" or " pissed off."

Victors voice... is that... Kellogg or Nick from Fallout 4?!

I like your content and you do it well. I don't like this plot element and the holes in it. It feels thrown together just because Bethesda didn't want to model Earth accurately (which I know would have made the game a few terabytes or more). There's no reason Victor would see another version of himself who knows the far future. He couldn't have encountered another version of himself because he never went to the Unity. It makes no sense the scientists wouldn't have shut off the prototype. It's not adequately explained that the damage to Earth was permanent. It makes no sense this other version of Victor wouldn't give him the fix for the grav drive to prevent the issue in the first place. That would have allowed humanity to expand to the stars and keep Earth alive. Bethesda could have done a better job buttoning up the plot holes or gone with some other reason for not being able to visit Earth at all.

I do wonder if Victor reached the unity when he talked with himself, it could be possible that the reason why the other victor didn’t warn him about the gravity drive error was because he never experienced it on his universe or because he deem necessary to destroy the earth in order to move humanity into the stars.

Gunna be real, I get the impression that the thing he talked to was just wearing his semblance, and the grav drive problem that killed earth was a premeditated catalyst for stellar expansion.

My guess is that the people from other universes hadn’t solve the problem that caused earth to lose the magnetic field, his other self knew this and warned his this was gonna happen but they hadn’t figured out how to fix it and our universe, the one where game takes or maybe the onces where the emissary or hunter are from were the first ones to do it. When you mess with multiple universes pretty much all the rules go out the window.

i'll probably never have the chance to play this game, but the storytelling from oxhorn is still top tier. although i don't know how many more times i can hear "then the atmosphere started to slowly sputter away into space" before i lose it

Love your work

Damn no way they just put a tall ass building at every earth landmark almost all look the same tragic

Maybe the future Victor knew that the colonization of the galaxy would need as many people as possible into the stars. If you left some people home on Earth, only a few worlds would survive or the spread of the human empire would not be enough to maintain itself. How many worlds didn't work out or needed to be abandon to better planet beyond the known space

Now I wonder what version of Victor(himself) he met. Was it Mercer frey..or was it everyone's favorite private eye. Nick valentine?? Either way when you see Karliah tell her I said hi.

Thanks for the video Oxhorn. Is there any references to how the exodus was handled? It just seems they made enough ships for a few million people and just left everything and everyone else to die.

Please tell me your working on Story of videos for starfield like your fallout ones. I learned everything i know about Fallout from Oxhorn. Lol

The plot reasoning is absolutely idiotic , all of this could be avoided if tests on Grav Drive were conducted on Mars

I genuinely enjoy your history breakdown videos. You should try doing voice over work for documentaries. You have a very good narrating invoice.

If you use the tfc - togle free cam then is there anything inside/underneth the pyramids? That sound makes me think there is. Or maby its just suposed to be a easter egg sound or somethin like that.

Honest I'm surprised that let's say the multiverse people you could say the Earth if you did the experiment on another planet instead of Earth so technically there should be a world were u could have both earth and the grav drive

6:45 that's currie from fo 4?

Im wondering why there isn’t any space station like settlements on earth. Surely if humanity could set up settlements on other inhospitable planets, why not earth?

Would love if earths lore was tied into the fallout vault generation ship lore that has recently been confirmed. Will you be makeing a video on the new vault lore ?

they could have made so many Fallout Easter eggs with earth. Since the planet is a wasteland.

ok time to come clean. Its me I did it, sorry. I- I left the door opened before I left.

wow a leaning tower of pizza. Wonder how many layers that pizza has, must be uneven crust. I guess

Oxhorn are you going to make more starfield videos ? i would love it if you did lol lore gameplay w/e

Fun fact: The NASA museum and launch tower could very well be the Kennedy Space Center, located at Cape Canaveral, Florida

WWNVD? What would Nick Valentine do?

Great video as always. Honestly, I think the reason that alternate Victor didn't give Victor the proper way to create a grav drive without destroying the earth is a simple one. Humans are creatures of habit. A majority of the population wouldn't leave earth to explore the universe or move to a different planet if earth was ok. The only way to successfully move humanity from earth into the stars was to destroy earth, giving those creatures of habit no other choice but to embrace the change.

I think when Victor aiza met himself, it was the person you meet at the unity and not an actual other version of himself

Been watching you’re channel for a long time man and I need out on not only Bethesda games but just other media in general so I get the level of love and interest one can express for such things but idk the level of detail and how far the interest goes is deeper than my level of nerd what drives you to have such passion……as I type this probably get lost in the comments but from a nerd to a fellow nerd that’s a lot of digging and learning the world you dive into what drives that?….in better terms

My only question is why Bethesda picked landmarks that wouldn't survive except the Pyramids. The Hoover dam would stand a better chance of surviving than any building, or other short stout buildings like bunkers or other solid stone structurers.

Is it just me or does the man who does Victor Aiza's voice also do Belethor's (& others) in Skyrim?

surprised Bethesda HQ isn't a secret location

Oxy, have you found the face on the moon snow globe? 👀

@Oxhorn Will you play Fallout London? If its good, and the writing is okay, hope youre gonna make videos about that!

0:23 Oh that's easy they had a bit of a Fallout

My question is does having a computer core hab reduce the grave calc timer of 8 seconds at 1 bar power?

The hell isn't this the main plot of the game? The mystery of earth, and the role that these starborn had in killing it in order to make sure every timeline is the same, every earth dead, every universe ready with the tech needed to easily find artifacts?

So here we are several hundred years in the future and at 5:55 we see NASA was planning the exedous from Earth using 1980s Apple Macs. 😂

I love starfield I don’t get that hate it’s not perfect but I still think it’s a great game

starfield is my favorite game ever made i play it whenever i get the chance

Not sure if anyone else mentioned this...but if it was the future (or alternate) version of Victor, he probably gave him the incorrect way to make the grav drives to force the hand of humanity. If they did not have to leave earth, how many would have actually left? This way the best and brightest would be incentivized to leave to save themselves and their families. Just my two cents.

i bet some one well make a mod to fix Earth

Victor sounds familiar like I've watched him in movies or other games and how deeply buried is the NASA place those towers are very tall irl but we only see the top half of it 200 years later

We need a Whip to drive on moons and other planets. Instead of hoppi ng or worse running due to low gravity

Sounds like the French woman just didn't want to move.

Was it really “inadvertent?” 🤔

I love starfield!

i am so late to this video, but, are you guys sure that Victor Aiza works for NASA and not for Vault-Tec???

Earth is the perfect example of everything that's wrong with Starfield the most interesting planet reduced to a handful of snow globes...

Seeing a barren, lifeless Earth in Starfield really shook me up more than it should have in a video game.

At this point in the game was the moment I said "f*** this game!" I could probably go into an hour's long rant on the ridiculousness that is Earth in this game, but I'm mostly angry at Bethesda for thinking that this would slide with us. There were better ways to deal with Earth because of a lack of time money or resources.

Ok, the biggest plot hole is no one, but "Victor Issa's" alternate self has figured out time travel, or did that alternate self get an extremely lucky universe hop? Going thru the Unity resets the time when a player exists in the new universe but never seems to throw a player back hundreds of years, so plot device, unbelievable luck? Without the one alternate Victor Issa that wanted to and managed to go back so far in time, the current timeline doesn't exist.

i am convinced there is some way to open up the Pyramid making sounds. there HAS to be something in there! why else would it make a sound that basically screams "Hidden Dungeon Here!" ?? actually, the sound reminds me of the sounds in Apochrypha in Skyrim's Dragonborn DLC.

I really miss Oxhorns Fallout 4 building days😕

A grav drive. Or gravity drive? Like the one that was used in the Event Horizon?

ponders how much that plush costs to make...how much of the cost goes to Oxhorn and how much goes elsewhere. To be honest Id be more likely to order if I knew. Total cost to me with shipping and tax is just under $40.00 and it askes for a donation on top. I love OX but donate to his patron already. Happy holidays everyone

How on earth are all those landmarks magically there? If the surface is the same one before Earth become a desert than there should be more abandoned buildings stretching thousands of kilometres just like in real life, I get that it would be framerate issue but Fallout 76 and Fallout 4 was able to do it quite literally because it is on Earth, but also it is a scaled down version of their real world states, so to some degree they could of done a better job at making the Earth landscape look like it was once prosperous and largely inhabited by humanity

It's been a while, but it's insane not to see you play fallout. I hope you do the lore on fallout 5 when it comes out

I'm surprised that they didn't include the Parthenon. Athens is the oldest capital in Europe, and the cradle of democracy, philosophy, and modern medicine.

I think you missed the snow globe on the top of the satellite display in the Nasa Museum. And I was surprised you didn't cover all the neat things in there.

I suppose if there's a multiverse in the universe of Starfield, there should be at least one universe where Earth wasn't destroyed.

the question i walk away with is: why are all those snow globes still there on earth? we don't have any secret old world weapons or military prototypes, no trinkets we can loot or anything else, just these damn snow globes, which are actually pretty fragile and they are all just plopped on the ground; by that point there probably shouldn't be any paint or details left on these snow globes due to constant radiation and sunlight my point is, there's so much that could be done with the planet underground bunkers made either by governments or doomsday preppers, secret laboratories or military installations etc. if the underground part of nasa survived the disaster, then so could every other structure deep enough

Something I've wondered about the evacuation of Earth is why the f didn't anyone think of bringing at least some earth animals with them to the stars like I get not bringing big animals like elephants but seriously? Not even cats or dogs?