What Renegade Doesn't Want You to Know About the Heroscape Age of Annihilation Wave 2 

100%. That’s going to keep the game afloat more than the actual game.

Anytime dude!

Crazy high for the quality we’re getting. And yeah, the terrain configs are weird, almost like they didn’t consult anyone in the community about it…

100%. BN will just be used for Renegade sponsored events to get promo minis. The real competitive scene will stay on .org

It’s becoming clearer every day that the unpainted prices are outrageous

I’ve heard Heroscape plays great on Source!

The expansions will be loss leaders if they don’t sell because they’re too expensive lol

I cannot afford to pay $200 for 4 squads of penguins with machine guns 😢

That would be incredible!!

Thanks Joe!!

Yeah suddenly I’d rather just have 2 more master sets to close out AoA

@@ryguyplaysgames I was literally just thinking this XD I would be much happier just buying two more sets. I can only afford like two battle expansions a year at this price. I literally went to the stream, intending to buy everything.

Don’t remind me 😭 but I’ll still buy it through my FLGS to support them!

You have to remember they buy at wholesale prices. Reputable stores will meet or beat MSRP. My FLGS is usually 10-20% off from day of release. Miniature Market has regularly been below MSRP minus a few exceptions like Games Workshop items.

It’s a bummer they packaged it with terrain we have a ton of already. Easy enough to buy secondhand though

If the laur trees were 30 dollars rather than 50, I would buy them in a heartbeat

Appreciate the response. I agree that the battle box is a good value. Although calling $10 per mini the industry standard seems a bit hand wavy when every DnD and GW product is half that price

@@ryguyplaysgames I was saying that it is industry standard to price starter sets cheaper than expansion sets. Not that the specific prices were standard. I can't think of a single starter set that is not a better value price wise. But the prices are fairly common. When I get back to my computer I can provide examples And to say GW doesn't charge 10 per figure... I'm not sure where you get that. I've seen GW charge 20 for single figures fairly regularly. I quit GW 20 years ago because they priced terminators at 10 per figure and they've gone up since. However, When I get back to my computer I will

@@ryguyplaysgames ok im just doing to do some random boxed sets for different miniature games. I havent really bought DnD miniatures in quite a while so I dont know what that pricing looks like. but heroscape is a miniatures game so I will compare it as such. Malifoux, these are unpainted and unassembled, so unlike heroscape you have to assemble these yourself. -"between the lay lines" 48 dollars. 3 figures actually, 2 normal human sized models and 1 giant mech suit model. -"Dark reflections" 50 dollars for 3 hound sized models and 2 large sized models. unpainted and unassembled. -"hush" 45 dollars for only 4 figures, all human sized, unassembled and unpainted. -"Cold as Ice" 45 dollars, 4 figures, 3 human sized 1 rather large sized figure. lets move on to GW, also unpainted and unassembled. -Dante 45 dollars. for a single slightly larger than human figure. thats right, a single figure. -sword brethren 62 dollars, 5 marine sized models -heavy intercessors 65 dollars 5 marine sized models -captain with heavy bolt rifle, 42 dollars, single figure, not even a named character. -death company 45 dollars for 5 marine sized models. -assault intercessors 62.50 for 10 models. basic squads like this are your cheapest option for marines, running about 6.50 per model. but remember as a basic squad, you will need several of these.... I also looked up some DnD miniatures, from the wizkids "nolzur's marvelous miniatures" line. and these are very well priced, ive seen larger figures up to 15 dollars but most are 5-10 for one or two human sized figures, or even more for smaller figures. these are priced really well. however this highlights the difference between dnd models and wargame models like heroscape, Malifoux or WH40K. dnd miniatures have no rules attached to them. wargame miniatures do. rules take time to design and test, test, test and more test. I have playtested for several different games before and it is a very time intensive process with a high turnover rate of playtesters. this costs money. and while its true that the current heroscape range has already been tested on the hasbro side, renegade had to pay for the rights, so the point still stands. 10 dollars per figure is not at all uncommon in the miniature wargame space, which is what heroscape is a part of. I find the models priced really well and the quality to be fairly good.

The bromance is real!

The original AoA was meant to just be one big master set. It was not meant to be spread out over several years. I agree it might kill the game but that’s not Renegade’s fault since they definitely didn’t have the capability to do one or two big sets like Hasbro could

@@ryguyplaysgames we only have to look at one other Hasbro property. HeroQuest was a massive release at the start meant to be a one and done like the AoA release. But HQ got major support from fans and has exploded into 9 expansions so far. They had the same plans for HS but were stopped when we did not hit the production goals to get the game made. Renegade got the license to bring it out on their dime for the molds . Hence the price hike. My hope is that minimum the terrain is widely available and all varieties. Lava and Ice were so difficult to hunt down.

Yep Biden can control those Chinese manufacturing prices. FFS man not everything has to be political. Its a world wide issue not just the US.