As a guy who's 5'3 I approve everything you said. I always saw myself as someone who works 3 times as hard in everything in life. from school to working out and up to my daily job. It's not a joke, as a "Manlet" it's like playing the game Dark souls on the 7th run through (The most brutal mode). So just like in video games, We need to decide for ourselves if the amount of time we put into it would worth the entire journey. For me personally I haven't even completely finished the game at all, just booted up a more relaxing and easier game. I'm enjoying putting my time into a different game ( Building wealth and helping out my family and Friends)
Hypertrophy is not burning fat, that would be lipolysis. Hypertropy refers to muscle growth typically and is rooted in the words hyper=above and trophos=growth.
You are correct about hypertrophy. However, lipolysis is the mobilization and beakdown of fat cells, and alone it's not considered as burning fat, it must be combined with the beta oxidation process in order for fat loss to be complete....
I appreciate your content mate, shout out from Australia. I'm 6ft 5in, 210lbs, athletic, did some modelling in my mid-20. My maternal family is from the Balkans, so I'm a decent looking guy. Good job, invest etc. So what's my advice to guys who think my life with women has been a cake walk? The market is still absolutely putrid. I've been cheated on, lied to, endlessly shit tested and brutality rejected. I still get asked how much I earn on first dates, get given lists of demands, all the shit any average guy would face. Having height and decent looks is good for the old pump and dump, but nothing else changes about how you're treated long term. I know plenty of 'tall' men who have been divorce raped.
Stardusk made a video the other day. Getting a woman is just putting your foot on the bottom of the mountain. The real slog comes after and, as you say, you get treated badly, get 💩 tests and likely will find dissatisfaction before failing to reach the top. Life is kind of a cope for everyone.
Good for you man, I've never had great looks or height so never had much female attraction. It's the best when you can focus on yourself and try new things. I'm assuming you have some jewish roots haha, I was raised a jew, but with the situation of the world I care about what is practical nowadays, instead of focusing on one religious theory. Stay unplugged brah.
@Jo Jo agree you can pick badly but I think the point was in the end we all end up with the same struggles. You sound like you date short to medium term. Its the stuff years in that Chad become Chump.
@Jo Jo Hey man. No doubt I have chosen some poor quality women in the to date in the past, especially when using Tinder etc. I didn't say every woman I've ever met has done this to me, but a fair number have. I'm saying that looks and height don't give you a free pass from the worst of it. What city are you from? Sydney Australia is a rather vain and materialistic place. The median house price is $1.7m. People don't f*** around in determining the suitability of a partner, especially when they're looking to have children quickly. Money talks and bullshit walks right, there are hundreds of thousands of incels in places like Sydney, guys who can never afford to be in a relationship with a woman of comparative looks. I have had better dating experience when I spent time in other cities. But regardless of your looks it generally ends up in the same place.
Hey Pete, here from Stardusk's shoutout. Slowing going through your videos, liking the balanced view throughout your content. As someone who's 5'3 and a hapa, I've basically thrown in the towel at this point and just started escortcelling and going to massage parlors. I found that did wonders for me mentally as well as going to the gym regularly. It helped in getting rid of the mystic and pedestalization that 'box' still had on me too. You are doing good work mate.
Hey man thanks for stopping by. And yup. Little under 10 years ago, I had a JBW friend in a similar boat to you. And he finally said screw it and did the same exact thing you did. The change in his mental condition was palpable. It got it out of his system and he was able to focus on other things and move on. It doesn’t solve every man’s problem but it makes a huge difference for many. Anyway keep up the grind brother. Enjoy your time here
If you want to get bigger you HAVE to eat more. Your body needs nutrition to build muscle. It doesn't matter if you are not hungry for it, eat more, and eat healthy. That way you can put on lean muscle. Cardio is good, but if you want to get bigger it won't help you. You need some though.
Im 180cm but i was fat for most of my life, invisible to girls in school.When i was 13 i was having high blood pressure and some kind of panic attacks that i totally blame being fat.I started to workout in my home, eat 2 - 3 health meals and lost a lot o weight.At 18 i was so shaped that a club owner invited me to be a stripper in girls only party and i "worked" as this for about 3 years...my performance with girls changed 180° sunddenly i didnt need ANY work to deal with them, due to be invisible most of my life i didnt have my social skills dialed in,but THAT DIDNT MATTER! I COULD SHOW UP DRUNK that i could grab someone.I learnt a lot from this experience and it melt away all my fantasies about the purity of women or how different they are.in the end they are all "animals" governed by emotions and hormones like all we are.
Personally I have/had an ectomorph frame and I think that it is a blessing. Makes your muscles pop out more when you’ve been lifting for a few years. For reference, I am East Asian, so being lean yet muscular (with pale skin) makes me look like a high prince.
As a 5'10 guy I think we get the best of both worlds, you can pack on muscle and fill out your frame easily and quickly just like short guys, you're faster and more agile, with good balance. And if you just wanna look tall, just wear boots or shoes with 2 inches heels or insoles and you instantly increase your height to 6' foot. Feel free to disagree with me, but I think being around 5'9 to 5'11 is a blessing in disguise...
No reason to disagree. It’s practical and makes sense. Once you start getting too tall like me, the midface ratio also tends to suffer. So yea. Very good points
there's no point in wearing insoles because once you take your shoes off people will see it. It would be a very big moment of embarrassment if that happens
Eh I’d still rather be 6’3 - 6’5 I’m 5’10 but when I see someone who is 6’3+ especially with a good frame I’m in awe. I just feel small next to the. I can see why women want these guys. Im not complaining but honestly I’m just coping if I say “hey 5’10 is great! Don’t need to be taller” Come on we’re just average in end. Also at end of day you have to take your boots off and feel smaller again
I'm only 5'7, but at the same time if a guy is 5'7 - 5'10 he is considered average, depending on the country. I think we just need to do our best, live our best lives are accept that women will reject us based on height. But at the same time, it's not about having many women, it's about having the right women in our lives. Of course, there are guys who say: Come on, you're lying and coping. You will never get girls because of this. I've been in relationships, been married and still I haven't had any issues with women. Height matters more than people often acknowledge, and it matters less than we think it does. Ps! Never underestimate a short guy. I had a chechen guy at school who was 5'4. you didn't want to piss him off!
Height & frame is very important. So is being not being bald. There's a couple of men at work who are well respected etc. 1 I know has slept with a ton of women. If you look at the face only they're not that attractive....but they've got a good body size & frame & good hairlines. That gives them the success. Im 5'8" in height & my friend is 6'4". His girlfriend said I look like a child against him. It was said in a good hearted nature but that gives you a little insight of how important height is in dating. You'll be instantly dismissed in dating if you're not 6' or taller if you're average looking as well. I'd say being bald leads to a similar instant dismissal of you as a dating option... unless you're really good looking facially. I've a friend who's a chad is 5'9"...but he's a chad so his height doesn't matter as his face, hair & beard more than make up for the average height
Re: losing weight. The diet is most important, you can't outtrain a shitty diet, and it's quite easy to consume more than you need. I'd recommend intermittent fasting + keto (Cole Robinson, Jason Fung, etc.)
5'6" gang represent. Doesn't do much for the lady folk, but it helps with deadlifts and gymnastics/extreme calisthenics training. Btw, hypertrophy is essentially the process in which one gains muscle mass with resistance training. 💪
A comment about manlets: I am 6 feet tall, played soccer for like 15 years, and manlets were always the toughest to play against. The reason is simple: they have a very strong gravity center. Their quads are usually super strong as well as their abdominal area. Also their arms are very strong. That's why guys like Maradona or Messi excel at soccer. Also, when I was an adolescent and into my early 20s I was into metal music and went to a hell of a lot of concerts, and guess who are the guys you don't want to encounter in the pit: that's right, manlets. Super strong and super explosive guys. If possible, I would always avoid physical confrontation with manlets.
I concur, I participated in many sport from martial arts, to basketball to track and field. I’ve never disrespected short guys because I know painfully all too well how athletic they can be. Every observation you made about them is spot on. If
Very cool comment, javier. Thanks. 2 cents: being small has always helped me playing drums and football (although i never took the 2nd as seriously as the first), i could see the slight advantage of having lower centre of gravity and less mass at the ends. My son (10yo) is a little legend in his local football team (by that i mean soccer), and i guess it's a lot to do with that too, the 'Maradona' build. Of course, there are disadvantages, socially and otherwise, but it's also nice to realise and relish on the good side things. ive never had an issue been small. a hard time, yes. Many times and sometimes still do, but not and issue per se. i grew up that way and dont know any other, so im OK with it. It's a bit like Stockholm syndrome i guess, after a while the challenge is also what makes it exciting.
5'2" overweight (muscle and fat). Average frame. Maybe a 5 out of 10, possible sub 5. I need to get healthy for me. I don't bother dating currently monk. Great video.
I've been tuning in the last few days after Aaron Cleary recommended this channel. I think you are quite talented, very detail oriented, the stats you discuss are quite accurate, and your candor and verbal acumen are top notch. You should have wayyyy more subs and it will definitely come soon. Now, if I had a couple constructive comments: Man, I think you are a little too gloomy and make this mating game more complicated than it really is. Yes, the dating market in America has plenty of cons. No doubt about it. And I'm 44 years old, and having been in the mating game for close to 30 years. I came up in the Black American culture of cold approaching at will. I've cold approached I estimate at least 1500 to 2000 times, at about a 10% success rate. That is how we did it before the dating apps. I don't say this too brag at all, as I've had my issues in the dating game as well. But we have to quit giving so much credit to the opposite sex in this culture. In my club days here in DC in the late 90s to early 2010s I would approach at least 10x times per night. Younger guys, you have to get out there and just make it happen. Worst thing is a no, and all you lost was a couple min. No harm, no foul. My GenZ and younger Millenals cold approaching is the best route and also helps build overall confidence. Second.. Bro, I didn't know until this video your 6'3. You're a 31 year old CPA, articulate, intelligent, funny, tall white guy in New York. At a bare, bare minimum your SVM is a 7.5. Fellas would kill for your height just for starters! If you put yourself out there you wouldn't have that many issues meeting ladies of you chose. Plenty of solid immigrant gals of all backgrounds coming into New York every day! I say this because I admire your unflinching honesty. But you gotta give yourself more credit Brotha!
I understand and perhaps you being 44 and me being 31 would highlight a difference in the markets we inhabit. Be that as it may, one thing I clarify is that this channel explores all frameworks from often conflicting points of view. I want to give the comprehensive library from all angles and then as the viewer, with the whole picture in front of you, take what is useful and discard the rest. With that out of the way, on to your view. To be continued
Continued: Sounds like a PUA approach. The idea that it’s just a numbers game. For normies I agree wholeheartedly and your close rate sounds about right. If you’re really looking for brutal honesty, you should watch the video on why I quit dating lol
@@lordofgingers I will definitely check out your video on why you decided to stop dating. And I wouldn't call my afterforementioned cold approaching as "PUA" due to the fact that "grifters" in that particular sect, to a certain degree put a negative strain on the cold approach method with selling a product and dishonest tactics in said game. I look at it as it was part of the culture I grew up in, I'm a sociable guy who is quite immune to rejection. It's a no frills, low cost form of recreation . I've also been a teetoler so when I would go out I had to have some form of entertainment lol. BTW, I could see you Killin the game with the "Coffee Shop Approach" Big ups to you Pete!
Thanks P 🙏, I already adjusted my life plan based on black/red insights and my own stats, trust me, 6.2 in Holland is nothing special, I get height mocked at 6 feet every day any day, but i keep calm, doing the fitness, money and later geomaxxing, when I go back to Afrika they want to become my second or third wife, so environments makes a difference😂
Dudes have to stop judging their worth on getting no strings attached action. This is like judging your value on if the person at Wendy's give you extra fries.
@@GUITARTIME2024 I am 1.88m 1.89m which is 6'2 barefoot and I am mostly taller then people but not significantly also I am 6'3 or 1.91m with shoes on,,,height matters but doesn't necessarily mean that your going to get girls if your not social guy and don't have money.i am not gonna lie to you guys i am still growing and I would love to be 7 foot 5 tall or 227m tall,,,so people might think I am crazy but I always wanted to be super tall even when I was younger I wanted to be giant.
I just think it’s funny… we used to take women seriously when they told us to stop objectifying them. When they always objectified us quite a bit more.
I'm 5'7, I'd be much shorter if I hadn't looked into posture/yoga. Using resistance bands and calisthenics exercises yo maximize good posture. The only thing I need so far is neck lengthening (Short neck/adams apple invisible) exercises. Neck lengthening yoga stretches will increase my height by at least 2-3 inches, which i haven't had the dedication to do so. I realized that neck length mattered for aesthetics. I remember taking Salsa dance back in college. My instructor was the same height as me but our shoulder to shoulder height, he was shorter. I noticed he had a longer and toned neckwhich caught up with my head height.
Fckn exercise will never increase your neck length or body height,it all lies on your parents genetics.Stop your exercise,go get a job. Thick wallet=Any girls 👍
For the tall fat guys (I'm 6'6 256 used to be 370+ 400+ at certain points of my life) nothing beats the stair master and the olipitcal turned up to at least 10 to 15 and work your resistance up each week till you're doing the max, and use the arm things too, it turns leg based cardio into a full body cardio session. And for muscle start with calisthenics and light weight with the basic exercises bench, rows, squats, dead lifts, curls, and shoulder presses, train for about 6 months to build a base. Then when you're comfortable with your weight and ability in the gym, that's when you look into a strength based training program. You have long arms and legs worry more about getting functionally stronger before worrying about how big your muscles are until your comfortable personally with your strength level. Muscle growth and more fat loss will come with the program as long as you eat right. It dosen't always have to be clean but portions, protein and moderation are key.
Fantastic video Pete! Love the recommendations especially shoe lifts. And I agree most women just want you to be bigger than them when out and about. This is exactly why I always recommend lifts over on my channel as well. Keep up the 🔥
Bit of a mindf@ck ain't it? lol But in retrospect, knowing this information only helps you. It doesn't hurt. I say tuck it in the back of your head and bear it in mind. Simple as that.
I'm 6'1" and found out that my height was my saving grace from my Aunt when I was 18.She told me that it's a good thing I'm tall since women like tall men.
I guess you could say I’m the “perfect” height at just under 6’2” and I have noticed that it has helped a lot in my social life, with the exception that I would often have guys trying to “chest thump” and compete with me, even if I had no desire to do so and just wanted to “exist”.
Mogging. Being skinny has prevented that from happening to me because it is assumed I am weak. Women follow suit and I am no competition. But yea I am familiar with what you’re talking about. Intrasexual competition is still ooga booga and blue pilled men are very unaware so they can’t really do anything
@@lordofgingers yeah. It took me a long time to figure out why so many guys were like that towards me in my 20s. I realize now that it's their own insecurities triggering animalistic instincts in them to compete for female attention and approval. At least now I don't take it personally anymore, but it doesn't happen that much anyways now that almost 40.
Endomorph = big shoulders, big hips, all of your features are big. You can be a formidable force with that build. Mesomorph = big shoulders, thin hips, big chest, thin waist. Ideal for a bodybuilder physique. Ectomorph = thin shoulders, thin everything. You're easily skinny.
Yo Pete, saw the new video post and figured I would drop in, leave a like, and see what you had to say. That sub count keeps climbing I see. Keep up the good work.
Hey, Pete, you have hit another one out of the park. Just one little suggestion: I don't think men should get liposuction under any circumstances. Get ready for some more unfair nature: women gain excess fat mostly just under the skin which makes liposuction a feasible solution for figure correction. (But NOT for morbid obesity!) Unfortunately, men gain excess fat around their organs, in the torso, well under the muscle layer. That's why liposuction would only be effective for little "love handles" which you can take care of in the gym and diet tweaks (certainly not responsibly corrected with surgery). Got my information by working for a year in a liposuction clinic for the first years I emigrated from the USA to the Netherlands and could not speak the language well enough to work my normal career as a critical care nurse. Also, Joker on Better Bachelor advised against that horribly invasive limb lengthening surgery because it screws up the geometry of the body and gives guys a really weird, of putting look. Too expensive for what you get and not worth the life threatening complications. Just saying.
Indeed. These hard looksmaxxing techniques are absolute last resorts and should not be seen as the go to option. An overwhelming majority of men will get by just fine with soft looksmaxxing techniques, but given my interest in being as comprehensive as possible, we gotta lay it all out on the table. That being said, your point on it being around the organs for men was very interesting and definitely food for thought. Thanks for sharing
I knew of a friend in college who had spinal decompression surgery and he was shorter than me prior to get the treatment. The following semester he was towering over everyone. Not recommending getting this surgery for height maximizing but I thought it was interesting. He spent the entire semester walking with a cane and having some limitations like not being able to workout or lift heavy objects for an extensive period of time.
IMO going for the full 6 inches only makes sense if you're 5'6" or below because it will almost certainly come at the expense of proportions. Overlengthening is not a good look.
I’m 6’8”, 360lbs lol. Lifted weights for 16 years. From my experience i disagree with you about such a thing as too tall. I’m a freak but why have i been with so many women if women’s preferences are as you say? Great video!
@@lordofgingers I just looove when I see sentences like: I'm x,y or z, and I disagree with you, because I can definitely pull women. Firstly, the exception is truth to the rule and secondly, there is no way to prove whether or not you're (deliberately or not) assessing you're situation correctly. Data doesn't lie and says that once you're past a certain height, I believe it was 6ft 2inch ish, it get's too tall and therefore turns into an undesirable trait.
Being jacked and super tall creates a powerful niche. So lets say only 5% of women really want you. That 5% REALLY wants you and will make it easy for you. Whereas for really short guys, fat guys, and ugly guys there is no real niche for these traits, at least not a statistically viable one.
A concept called "regression to mean" factors into attraction, and it has not been addressed in the manosphere. This is when a breeding pair will create an average person because their genes 'average out'. For example, I too am a lanklet, and the kind of girls I attract, to the point that they will approach me, are always short and a bit on the chubby side. And while short and slightly chubby girls are not conventionally considered attractive, I dig them over supermodels and typical Hollywood stars any day of the week. If I knocked up some supermodel, we would create a freakishly tall person. If the short chubby girl got knocked up by a mamlet, they would create a super manlet. Both of those children would be at a disadvantage vs average people. I have oversimplified here, and it applies to more than just height, but you get the point.
True, this is why as women get taller they get less picky about HOW much taller he has to be. That’s why it’s always the really short girls that say they want a really tall guy. It’s like they know their genes will create manlets so they’re like na screw that. Overcompensating to get to that mean as you said. Very true
It's mainly physical attraction. Whether tall or not so tall good looks are more important. But good looks with height up to 6ft2 or such is a big bonus. Height alone won't cut it.
Further, you must be within the same race, nobody is a twin so country, religion, second language if any has no impact. Caucasian (Europe/Middle East/Russian/American Caucasian etc) attract each other if good looking within the race, with height is a plus...same for Negro/Black (Sub Saharan African, African American, Hispanic African, Haiti, Caribbean black etcetera) attract each other if good looking within the race with height as a plus...same with Mongoloid (Chinese, Japanese, Phillipino, to Eskimo, Native American, includes many indigenous Hispanics with Asian features) also attract each other if good looking with height as a plus. Over 40,000 years and it's been that way, perhaps much much longer. The world was a Pangaea once, one continent before plate tectonics split continents apart, so when together the races certainly did not merge, and even today when a race merger occurs which is rather rare, the offspring finds a mate they most resemble and become that race again. The three major races of Caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negro also seem to be comfortable with one another within the race on top of having their own tastes. In a multi race environment there are misunderstandings but it is not dislike but rather no attraction, hence people prefer offspring who resemble themselves consciously and unconsciously, after all part of being accepted is attracting a mate, so naturally within race attraction exists with great comfort vs otherwise hence out of race is rare, and offspring blend right back into the race they look like. It is not bad, it's good, it's natural, so it's best to not look in the wrong places (lol races).
The most accurate surveys marked 6'0 as the ideal height for men, so i think that the ideal is about 2-3 inches above the average. on other words- around 20 cm above the average woman.
Fake. Lifestyle, diet and genetics. European paleolithic hunter gatherers had a diet that was around 90% animal foods (particularly organs of MEGAFAUNA which are nutritionally dense) and males measured 179cm or 5’10.5’’ on average. Other groups, like the Yamnaya culture of the Bronze Age had a pastoralist diet, with lots of dairy, and males measured at 176cm or 5’9.5’’ on average. Plains Indians were also tall (ranging from 5’8’’ to 5’10’’) and they were mainly bison hunters. So some pre-industrial societies weren’t short at all. When people started to settle down after the Neolithic Revolution, almost all groups became shorter because of poor health and diets (low in protein and high grains, weaning children with soft starchy foods, impairing proper growth)
You forgot natural selection. Guys under 5'6 have children at a rate of about 40% Guys above 5'6 have kids at 70%. These are my personal thoughts not real stats also CDC stats are really inaccurate.
Were the taller man more ballsy? Absolutely I'm 1.75 in europe, under average by just a little, but when i went regularly to the gym and was fit AF i was 100% more ballsy and confident because i was fit, i was 'better', i was treating myself better, others were treating me better, it's hard to have balls of steel now when i'm overweight or if you have a major physical disadvantage aka under 1.7m without muscle.
I’m 5’9 the same height as my father and there’s nothing I can do about that but too many ladies that’s still considered too short and won’t even give me a chance which is sad.
This wasn't a thing until dating apps. I'm 38 years old, 5'6, good looking. Hooked up with many women pre 2020...even more pre 2013. It's just some Gen Z brainwashing.
This is a sliding rule as human behavior revolves and evolves around the social media Hivemind. In a few short years only 1% of men will be deemed as acceptable for dating in terms of physical attractiveness. I agree with the perceptions while arguing that the standards are only to get higher and higher for men while they must settle for increasingly lower standards in terms of physical SMV.
I seems to me that the girls I know who are 6' 3"-5" have a super hard time. They want a boyfriend as tall if not 2 -3 inches taller than them which is almost impossible .
Hi Pete. Loving your content. Here thanks to Stardusk. Been a long time follower of his thinking apeness, since the barbarossa days. You are great at this and its an absolute pleasure finally having another companion in the manosphere of this caliber. Wanted to just relate my personal experience being a shortie/muscly guy: i alwyas had moderate success with chicks (that are shorter or same height as me), in part, i think because of having a pretty face, blue eyes with meditarrnean skin/features, but also a lot to do with my personality (sigma all the way) and an active musician (drummer) that has reached a fairly high level of skill and local-focused recognition (from peers, specially). so id say, my experiences with chicks is a combination of face/muscles and my personality/activity. pretty sure id have a hard time with neither of those. if i wer 5 inches taller, im confident id be giga chad, and in a way, im glad i'm not.
Awesome story. Yup as long as the combo makes you pass the basic looks test, all that other epic stuff just helps you shine right through. Normies get a lot of play as I say. It’s a wonderful thing. Thanks for sharing and I’m glad you enjoy what I bring to the table
As a guy who is 6’ 8” I must be a unicorn then, according to the studies you’re talking about then I’d have the same level of acceptance as a man who is 5’ 8”. But in reality if you look at more “accurate” studies, you can see that men generally tend to be more attractive as they get taller up until about 6’ 9” and up. And my own personal experience is nothing but the opposite of what you’re stating.
@@user-zo1on8cv9y this was strictly online swipe data. Women’s perception of what is 6 and up irl is quite off. So no your experience does not surprise me. However online, this is the data and given that that’s how an increasing number of people are meeting, it’s relevant
I have two buddies that are around 5"6" one just looks for fights, the other one doesn't look for a fight but he doesn't turn one down either. The one that looks for fights looks like a demon has taken over his body when he gets into a fight. You would almost have to kill him before he would give up. He will use anything that he has to win, he will bite, kick you in the nuts, or gouge your eyes to win.
That's honestly really sad and makes short men look bad. Instead of wasting his health and time trying to beat big men in their own game he should read a book and go into dancing. You don't see 6'9, 300 pound guys boasting about how they will destroy everyone in figure skating but there's plenty of delusional little fuckers who think learning MMA will make them physically dominant at 130 pounds.
@@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252 I mean being honest if a short dude or even tall dudes learns some sort of martial arts he has an advantage over the majority of men because . The majority of men do not know how to even throw a punch so technically yes the 130lbs little fucker has a great chance at beating a big dude if he doesn’t have any training which most dudes don’t . But if a big dude does have training and is above in skills then him well the 130 little fucker is done for .
@@ThroughDarknessComesLight I'm not going to argue any of that. All I'm saying is that fighting is a big man's game unless you're going for a weight class trophy. Tiny guys should tap into their strengths like dancing.
I don't think lookism exist the way people think it does on this side of the internet. The reason I say that is because every time I go to a big venue whether it be grocery shopping, a concert, a football game, etc I see a lot of short/ f a t m e n with w i v e s/gf
@@keyhimself3542 sounds like you understand the point. The genuine attraction is in doubt. So that man prob could save some time with your method yea 😂
@@lordofgingers That's what I'm saying. Why even be in a relationship (as a m e n) if you're going to be monk mode? At that point, singleness is the better option.
Some of these are being interpreted incorrectly. For instance, being too tall is not actually being too tall for attractive women. It's probably goblinas who can admit it's awkward to date a guy 15 inches taller than her that is causing a few percentage points to drop off. In reality, getting taller keeps adding to your value to hot women.
Possible. Generally the hotter a woman is the more likely she will have more stringent criteria JUST to filter out and hone in on what she perceives to be a better selection. I do not see this being the case for meat of the bell curve, which is what we talk about generally
This vid while grim, gave me some comfort in that I'm basically neutral to women(I don't attract or disgust women) and I just need to do some soft looks maxing like continue to build muscle, make sure hair is groomed, have nice clothes.
5.9 guy here. But this because my mother was 4.11. My father was 5.11 and this is a good height for my opinion. I have a complex about this. When I was a teenager, I was 5.5 added a little 5.7 maybe. But in my twenties i was 5.9.I'm on psychotropic drugs. I want surgery, last in my my life i hope. Honestly, the girls who showed interest in me and to me were 5.7 or 5.8. I like it. I dont want be a fucking giant, but i want return what was stolen from me. 5.11.5 its perfect height for me, i want to be myself. My lovely girl 5.7.5. She's against it, she thinks I don't accept her height, no but that's my personal problem. I just want to be myself, just like my father. Thats all. I dont date with short girls first because they think i am short. Okay i dont care. But i scared if i have a children especially sons they shorter than me like Passe-Partou.
As a tall black guy i relate to this so much 15:13. I have hazel eyes and im 6’2 and it’s pretty much the only thing i get complimented on. Even then the compliments have been getting less frequent as I grew older and moved to different countries.
I have a highly physical job so my frame is what it is conditioned for, gym for me is recovery days. I'd rather men see themselves for what their body is suited for and find activities that physically fit them; fit for purpose and finding joy in a physical hobby they can excel at. Of course feel welcome to challenge yourself and explore, women are impressed when they see men do the unexpected physically, not that you notice that at the time. My point is that you missed one manosphere perspective but solid video. I'd like to add that negative stress will negate most efforts, whatever looks maxing you use make it habit then relax into it for your own health; don't beat yourself up over setbacks, no change is easy.
Man this one is the hardest for me. I'm ok with JBW because real life experiences show me it's not that brutal. Yes JBW guys can usually get some local partners, but they're almost always the less desirable women in the eyes of the local men, not a huge loss honestly. But on the other hand, my height and frame always bother me. I'm living in one of the countries with the shortest average height for the male population, but even here the zoomer boys are like 5 ft 8-9 on average, and I'm just barely 5 ft 7. I hate it man, and especially the goddamn emasculation that comes from it, which I faced repeatedly. Just this couple of years, several girls and a man (looks like he was ghey or something) blatantly said that I'll look better as a woman, with my scrawny body, crappy shoulder length, wider hips, damn babyface and all. The girls even said, just put some makeup and crossdress then I'll look good as a woman ffs! Man, I'll be grateful if you give me and other men in similar situation some advices, or something to help us find peace, acceptance etc. But in my current mindset, honestly I'd rather end myself than being humiliated and belittled like that. But anyway, thanks for the vids man. Yours are the most helpful compared to other red+blackpill folks IMO. Cheers 👏
Yea honestly as uncomfortable as race is to talk about (because of the political context), it’s the least important of the three. 5’7 is the global average. Shoe lifts will add two inches putting you at 5’9 and the average sole is probably an inch of additional height so that puts you at 5’10. The frame is the tricky part if your hips are wider than your shoulders. As others have mentioned in the comments, building muscle is paramount. If the mass built is enough to balance out that ratio a bit when you stack the muscle on top of the skeletal frame, that could be sufficient. But if that’s not enough and it really bothers you, clavicle lengthening is the only remedy, which means you’d have to moneymaxx first to afford it. That leaves your face. Depending on your age, your face may not be developed yet. If you have a full head of hair with good genes for keeping it, positively oriented eyes that are wider than they are tall (hunter eyes) and your jaw is taking decent shape, you could be all right. Photofeeler is a good way to get a realistic figure on what women think of your face in photos. An average quality camera will yield you your lowest ratings while a high quality camera will yield you highest (meaning IRL would be somewhere between the two) It’s not as doom and gloom as you think and if you’re gonna do this stuff, however, it should be so that you can look in the mirror and LIKE what you see. Any other benefits are byproducts. Nothing more This is for you bro. Bear that in mind and you will seek out and enact the solutions Good luck
@@lordofgingers Appreciate it man 👏 Yeah, I'm trying to get and save up more just to have more options like surgeries and stuff. Maybe if I get another remark I'll snap, thus I just stay away from those kind of people and engaging some nerdy guys that I know don't have issues with my appearance. I'm trying to focus my life on bettering my chosen craft man, at least I can tolerate my existence that way. At the end of the day, I'm doing what I can to keep on living, find some improvement, just like any fighting man with "It's not over" attitude will do in the same situation brother.
@@lordofgingers yo man just wanna say i really like how supportive you are towards manlets. I dont like blackpill stuff(video recommended to me), and my experiences personally doesn’t always line up(5’7, good face, good bb genetics, high in emotional intelligence) but its definitely true that shorter men have it difficult. I like how you uplift men in these comments instead of tearing them down even further. We need more people like you that says the truth without tearing people down, especially over something they can’t control. New sub forsure just because of that
@@stfu6397 opinions on the video are a mixed bag but the stats were sourced but may be out of date now (I.e. swipe rights might taper off at a much higher height than they used to) But the overarching principle is the same. Being short and/or scrawny makes things tougher.
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You have to put this whole thing in perspective. When you are young a tall height is imperative but as women age specially in their 40s height is a smaller factor and financials and personality plays a bigger part. If your a manlet your strategy should be to likable to get to that 1st barrier and better have a banger personality and make her laugh to sway her opinion
@@Lolopinoy123 by and large that is cope. Banking in exceptions to the rules to come in clutch. Can happen of course but don’t count on it. If you don’t pass her looks test, you are just her friend at best to her. That being said is it not obvious why women in their 40s that didn’t get picked in their 20s don’t have the luxury of being as picky?
@@lordofgingers there are many reason women in their 40s are single, divorce is #1 reason. There is inherent advantages being tall in the dating market but to think it is impossible to date as a manlet is mathematically not supported. We know that only 13% of the men in the world are 6 feet and above but if the women are just looking for 6 feet then the number of 6 footers should be higher in society right?
@@Lolopinoy123 1)That does not negate that 20 year old her has more options. The divorce often happens due to “irreconcilable differences” which is fancy dress for “I think I’ve still got it and can do better than you.” 2)You are assuming I am taking an absolutist stance. I am not. I’m taking a generalist stance. Meaning impossible is not a word you will hear me use often. Improbable, on the other hand, is an accurate word to describe my view on the plight of the average manlet. With that in mind, one of the oldest discussions in the space is the seesaw of height vs face. Can a good face make up for height and vice versa. More importantly when you aggregate all those physical qualities, is it enough to pass her looks test. Well given that most men are normies by that metric, the answer, mathematically, seems to be yes. But what if the people who fail. We cannot just ignore their plight which is what this video acknowledges. Their existence. 3)Considering a fair chunk of CEOs are that’s not something to dismiss so readily. That being said, I would say the dating and mating game is even more challenging than the most difficult professional endeavors at times if you have handicaps like being a manlet.
@@lordofgingers I don’t necessarily disagree with you. I’m 6,4 fairly attractive and somewhat muscular build and women do come on to me regularly all the time , but I also know as I age my physical features can only take me so far the subject of financial accomplishment also is a factor for many older women
Hey Pete, I stumbled upon your channel watching plenty of Wheat Waffles content lately and I must say I'm impressed with the quality of your videos. Keep it up. PS: You good with that hairstyle and beard. Definitely compliments your facial features.
Thank you sir. If you’re finding me through wheat without his recommendation, that means the algo is being kind today. Most of my subs came from Thinking Ape and Sir Yeetus. Tails Blackpill sent a few over too. You will probably find something you like in the blackpill playlist if that’s your cup of tea and if we disagree on some details it’s all good man. I hope you enjoy your time here
Good job looking at the physical attributes and their impact on some of those super important areas of life. Let me just add a touch on the psychological factors. For CEOs and high level positions, being 'choleric' seems to help quite a bit. With women, you better be 'confident' (tall or short, big or small). l take being confident anytime before being tall (life is easier being an average guy, think travelling for example and those seats made for guys like me, the 'average' right?) . l'm 5'8 ,183 pounds (boy you have to gain weight! 😅). Also did martial arts all my life 😎 Nice video!
Nah , if you are short you can never be confident. If you are confident , you will be seen as arrogant or trying to compensate. Same with the gym. I went quite hard on it when I was younger , didn't help and to be honest I'm happier since I let it go No more chores like going to the gym 3 times a week.
yesterday a 5'2 girl told me that a 5'11 man is too short for her, when i asked why she told that she needs a genetically superior man to have tall kids
Tbh that’s a respectable answer because , for starters, it’s honest and not sugar coated in virtue signaling BS that treats you like you don’t know the real reason
@@lordofgingers you are right, brutal but always better than a lie. then i asked her what if a 6'3 man she likes think the same way as her and she told me that if a man think this way he must be insicure.
@@fdrc9255 the insecurity argument is at odds with the biological wiring we evolved to have though and the two often get conflated. Sure the possibility to oppose it exists within the human genome but that ain’t factory settings. That’s custom settings and the older you get the more difficult it becomes to customize
*Volume vs Length* While some men that are taller or shorter than average are actually more massive overall, most men have similar torso sizes. The variance in height is usually due to limb length. That length is tied far more to early childhood nutrition than genetics. This is why a lot of shorter men are really just as physically capable as a taller man. The only real discrepancy would be reach. We can always look for extremes (say “what about Big Show vs. Danny de Vito”) but generally speaking, a man’s ability to offer physical protection is totally tied to experience and body tone. This is why vvomen are foolish when they conflate “height” with lean mass volume. Of course, a vvoman’s decision is still hers (regardless of how stupid she is). …………………………………………………………………………………. *Derogatory Terms* I’ve only recently heard of the term m4nl3t. It is very derogatory, and like the “N” word, should not be allowed to pass. Should we be allowing words like “cvnt” to be used as a regular way to address females? Of course not. There is no complimentary way of using m3nl3t, so let us make an effort to stop it. …………………………………………………………………………………. *The Problem* The problem is that today’s Western society has so mollycoddled its vvomen, most of them have become extremely entitled and delusional. A lot of it has to do with the constant, and false, message of “being female means you are perfection”. The media constantly tells vvomen that they are goddesses REGARDLESS of how poorly they maintain their body, mind or spirit. They can act poorly, and it is excused as “strong and independent”, or “just living my best life”. They cannot be wrong even in their own minds and at the very least, they are not accountable (“It is a vvomen’s prerogative to change her mind”). We are not exaggerating. This is the message that society feeds us. In contrast, men have been told that to be a man is to be part of a r4p1st culture and prone to “toxic” masculinity. While a vvoman can excuse herself with “primal instincts” (aka hypergamy), a man is legally bound to resist any true primal instinct (you cannot even express desires lest a vvoman be offended --- because you yourself are not desirable enough to her). If we allowed “hypergamy” --- then why do we admonish “might makes right”? Of course, the answer is that “hypergamy” is just an excuse to be selfishly hedonistic (and have a complete lack of foresight as to how it affects your future ability to secure an actual life-mate). Hence, we have a dating market that is full of vvomen that inflate their own self-worth to incredible extents (yes, we have 3s that believe they are 10s). Most of the vvomen exclusively chase the 10% of top-tier men and the rest of the men are virtually invisible (“coz, like, I’m a 10 so I deserve Chad”). “Equal Rights” has given vvomen access to resources, so most feel they can hold out for Chad and Tyrone. The reality is that even if they want to share Chad and Tyrone, once they hit the wall, they are off the circulation list. Then, it’s “where have all the men (Chad and Tyrone) gone?”. The math says that most of today’s vvomen (who are delusional and picky) will end up with nobody --- especially since Beta providers are wising up and not committing to the post-wall desperados anymore. …………………………………………………………………………………. *But what Can “I” do?* At the personal level, just grind for perfect in the things you can change. That doesn’t mean you’ll become a Chad, but at least you will get some action. Then again, there is not a lot of worthy vvomen out there. At the societal level? Push for change. Society has suffered at the hands of false egalitarians for decades. That is the cause of these problems in the dating world. Get rid of false egalitarianism and things will return to a much better state (like when guys had a chance regardless of the things that are innate and immutable). *Be a part of the solution.* …………………………………………………………………………………. ………………………………………………………………………………….
*Volume Vs. Length* Pretty much agree on this, but in the end, women are the selectors and whether their selection process is faulty or not, anything to make onself feel better about the fact that have not been selected is cope. (Vs. Accepting it and moving on in spite of it) *Derogatory Terms* If you're looking to word police men, you will fail. Men speak bluntly and plainly as you well know. That being said, manlet and the n-word are NOT the same. The fact we are not saying the n-word shows that there is a difference. As for cvnt, I see it as no different from sh!t. So that's my take and that's where I stand. Softening the words is PC police level stuff that the manosphere does not care for. Softening language to cope is feminine. Men face the truth head on. *The Problem* Pretty much nailed it. *But What Can "I" Do?* I would say not making "getting action" the center is paramount, but that involves men being exposed to the reality and making their own choices based on that information that we aim to provide. MRAs have already been trying what you are saying at the societal level. And while I admire their determination and support them wholeheartedly they cannot overcome the sheer power and backing of the gynocentric system. *In Short* 1)Volume v. Length - Agreed 2)Word Policing - No 3)The Problem - Agreed 4)The Solution - Sounds good on paper, but we have seen in practice. Thanks for stopping by
@@lordofgingers You're welcome. *”Fictionary”* The word “m4nl3t” was tossed around in the 4ch4n forums back in 2012. The term is really just something that vvomen use to denigrate men who they deem as too short (What? Like under 5-10 or something like that). While no one is looking to word police anyone, it seems counter-productive to socialize a pejorative. Especially one that is really nonsense. Doing so effectively gives vvomen more license to feel it is OK to be irrationally prejudiced. The “N” word has the same negative connotations as this “M” word. The difference is that there has been a protracted campaign to educate people on the plight of African Americans. In contrast, heightism is actively promoted by the media to the point that it is considered a virtue signal for vvomen to claim that they are “too good” for shorter men. We do not say the “N” word because societal rules (and even legislation) says we cannot in most cases (well, really all cases) without penalty. The “M” word is not (but, really is just as much “hate speech”). Certainly, men are blunt and we all need to hear the truth regardless of how unkind it is. However, in that endeavor, we should strive to avoid derogatory terms when it is unnecessary. ..................................................................... *Solving the World’s Problems* Most of us --- especially men --- are in isolation when it comes to being victims of bullying (and that is what things like heightism really is). We do not see sufficient progress, so many of us feel that nothing will ever change. However, vvomen eventually got the vote because they worked at it. Certainly, they were 50% of the population, but consider too that African Americans are a mere 12% of the US citizenry… yet, through protracted action, things change. It does not mean one’s own predicament changes, but it does mean we can change society in the long run. There has been change. The delusions of Western Society vvomen have become so corrosive that it is not just “fringe” men that feel the hate. Practically 90% of young men (aka not a Chad or a Tyrone) feel the negative effects of several decades of false egalitarianism. Men are not participating in the rigged game and it is being noticed. We CAN change things, not just for ourselves, but for all of us. It just takes effort. .....................................................................
@@farkinarkin5099 If that's how you really feel about the word, then don't use it. I suspect you would have quite a linguistics crusade against incels in particular...they are...very blunt. More blunt than I could ever be. Suffice to say, I stand by my point that softening the word changes nothing. Tall skinny guys like me are called lanklets and that is not offensive to me. The minute you start saying "wait let's change the words because feelings and offensiveness", it morphs into the same PC bs we all try so hard to unplug and stay away from. It is euphemistic lip service that hides what we REALLY think. I'd rather just say it upfront, even if it does piss some people off. And I would expect the same in return. I was bullied for being a lanklet. A tall skinny man. But, to be honest, in retrospect, it wasn't that bad. I do not think that nothing will change if you are hoping women will magically just start preferring short guys. They will not. Voting is a whole nother can of worms. I agree with the rest
@@lordofgingers ………..If that's how you really feel about the word, then don't use it………… Well, it is not about how one personally chooses, but from the perspective of *not promoting a term that is, for all intents and purposes, a derogatory term.* ………………………………………………………….. ……………I suspect you would have quite a linguistics crusade against incels in particular...they are...very blunt………….. While I have not met any Incels (at least not any that I am aware of), however these individuals choose to address each other is one thing. What was being said is that pejorative terms (be they r4c1st, s3x1st, heightist, etc…) should be avoided since it does not dilute the intent. The word is meant to be harmful --- so why use it? Incels? People who self-identify as a victim should really avoid it too. Wearing a thorny crown does not make the crown any less thorny (or one any more respected for that matter). If one really believes in preventing the slippery slope of self-loathing, one should advocate for more self-respect. ………………………………………………………….. …………..More blunt than I could ever be. Suffice to say, I stand by my point that softening the word changes nothing. Tall skinny guys like me are called lanklets and that is not offensive to me…………… Not “soften” the word, but rather to avoid using it if possible. We do not use derogatory words to describe certain ethnicities for the same reason. Using them does not “soften” those words either. If anything, it just gives people license to be offensive. I’ve not heard of the term “l4nklet” before today. Personally, I would not use the term to refer to anyone (like “m4nlet”, it is not even remotely clever). ………………………………………………………….. …………….The minute you start saying "wait let's change the words becaue feelings and offensiveness", it morphs into the same PC bs we all try so hard to unplug and stay away from………………. No. Not change the words, but rather more “not use the word”. As mentioned before, we do not use r4c1st words for the same reason (even if people actually “feel” that way). ………………………………………………………….. …………….It is euphemistic lip service that hides what we REALLY think. I'd rather just say it upfront, even if it does piss some people off. And I would expect the same in return………………. If that were so, then no r4cist or s3xist pejorative should be filtered either, right? After all, why hide what we really think. ------- of course not. We avoid pejorative terms NOT merely because they could, by omission, mask true intent. We avoid pejorative term ALSO because we should not normalize them (especially to fertile minds). How do we think irrational prejudices infect a populace? It is done by socializing derogation to the point is considered “acceptable” (when, in fact, it really is not --- remember the word is not really softened). *It is not merely just to prevent “pissing some people off”, it is all about stopping the propaganda.* ………………………………………………………….. …………..I was bullied for being a lanklet. A tall skinny man. But, to be honest, in retrospect, it wasn't that bad……………… That is unfortunate. I cannot say that I was every bullied for being anything, but I did see people being bullied ---- and I did not let it pass if I could help it. ………………………………………………………….. …………….I do not think that nothing will change if you are hoping women will magically just start preferring short guys. They will not……………….. Not allowing bad behavior wherever and whenever you or I or anyone can do something about it does help. No one expects to alter the minds of the zealot (those people are lost causes), but those on the cusp, those who are gullible… they certainly can be swayed. How do we think the zealot got those irrational prejudices? It was socialized. It was viewed as OK (or even “good”). *This problem of marginalization is bigger than you or I. Due to all sorts of high scores in other attributes, I get by OK in the dating world… but that doesn’t mean I don’t advocate for those that do not.* ………………………………………………………….. ……………..Voting is a whole nother can of worms…………….. It is not just at the polling booth. It is something we do all the time and everywhere. Society needs to be reminded that systemic marginalization due to irrational thoughts is NOT OK. ………………………………………………………….. ………I agree with the rest…………… I certainly hope so ;-) ………………………………………………………… …………………………………………………………
@@farkinarkin5099 And every individual has a right to choose what they do and don't say. As long as they are willing to deal with the social disapproval attached (which I am). So I'm just gonna leave it at that. You won't change my mind on this. Also, you don't get to decide what other people mean by what they said. Only how you interpret what is said. I use it because my intent is not pejorative. And if you still think it is, that's fine. But interpretation does not trump intention in my view. We do advocate self-respect....but we also advocate acknowledging reality for what it is. Manlet is a black pill term for a short guy just as Subfive is a black pill term for ugly man. If that is something you cannot get past, then I fear most black pill channels are probably not for you. Which is fine. But not using these words implies substiuting them for something else to say the same thing. And yes, people do have license to be offensive. Again, if that's something you can't get past, then black pill space is probably not for you. In my opinion, no. Nothing should be filtered. But, if someone says the N-word and someone else walks up and punches them in the face, that's the price paid. That's life. I personally prefer brutal honesty no matter how much it hurts. Yea, it might break me...but then I can rebuild...and that philosophy resonates with many who operate in this space to varying degrees. We are not concerned with the things you are concerned with...which again, says that if this is really an issue for you, then blackpill brutality is probably not for you. I honestly think most people avoid terms because they don't want to get punched in the face tbh. There is no propaganda. There is only nature when discussing these things and no amount of wordshifting will alter women's disgust, which is far more harmful than any word ever could be. You are advocating on behalf of people who aren't offended in the first place. These men, myself included.....whatever our shortcomings may be, we have no illusions about them and using one word over the other will not impact our psyches. You give words too much credit. Lastly, society, when considering your words...I would say is already majority zealots. You will not change their minds. In fact, you will be the villain when you call them out. Which is why spaces like this exist. Manlet is not going to be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Trust and believe.
The financial market has been a really tough one this past months, but I watched an interview on CNBC where the anchor kept mentioning "...CATELYN MORRIS...". This prompted me to get in touch with her, and from October 2021 till now we have been working together, and I can now boast of $15k in my trading portfolio
What kinds of investments do you make. I totally agree with you. I have a lump sum right now doing next to nothing in a savings account. but it's hard for me to take part in the market right now due to the fulltime nature of my job. it will be way to stressful to combine so I don't even think about-facing it
@@helenp9085 I earned more this year because I have been investing while working at the same time. I invested through Mrs Catelyn Morris, same woman that the anchor kept mentioning on CNBC, and made multiple of my start up capital within three months . She lives here in the USA and she is licensed.
I am a 32yo 5.11 average decent looking man and I never get a glance from a woman I have all was been single and even if I go for a woman I like it all was ends with instant rejection when I ask for her number along with her looking at me with fear and disgust in her eyes like she's looking at a monster/demon from the lowest pit of hell...
I seen like a 5ft to 5’3 people who played soccer back in school and their fast and great at soccer!most of high school I was 5’8 and 11th grade stopped at 5ft9 .
Women don’t date guys who are taller because of protection…. As you explained that doesn’t really make sense from a physical violence standpoint. It’s partly that, but it is more that being tall (kind of like skin color) is one of the most easily identifiable traits that people can recognize. It’s the fact that it is tied to physical protection, and easily identifiable and genetically determined that makes it valuable. Your mma skills or weapons you own are not going to get passed onto your child. It is a easy marker that we can attach status too, it’s importance is overblown in nature like a moose’s antlers. It’s more an evolutionary artifact than anything. I don’t like watching sports that are specially designed for tall athletes because that is just catering to the gynocentric social order.
im 5'5 and never had too much problem really. sure i didnt get the 10/10 stacy at highschool but surely between 7 and even 9 in rare cases. i even was more introverted and anxious back when i was interested in relationships years ago so i guess i consider myself lucky. i live in a country were people that are crazy tall are a minority so it could be that
That last sentence is the reveal. But hey, if it works to your advantage, use it brother. I always say to go where one is valued. And if that means you don't have to go anywhere? That ain't a bad deal.
@@lordofgingers yup. i never even thought about my height in those times, i only just caught attention to it after the "many pills" period. i can imagine how being 5'5 in the netherlands where everyone is a jiraffe would suck
Your weight is dictated by hormones, not calories. Yeah you still have to eat but when you understandthings like testosterone are called signaling hormones that means when you do a certain behavior then they respond in a certain way. As in doing leg workouts for men, this triggers testosterone to tell your body to be stronger. think of it like a modern farmer with an animal how do you think he will make him grow bigger? Feed the animal more? Or. Mess with their hormones
21:32 Nope, Permanent hair loss is purely caused by detrahydrotestosterone and how genetically hair folicles react to it. Medicine or stress can cause temporary hair loss but not perma.
I would strongly advise against that. Your genetics are not your fault or anybody else’s fault. It’s just the situation. And when the situation is sh!t, you make do with the silver linings. Lashing out at the rest of the world solves nothing.
Is there any point self improving as a 5'4 guy? I've been dealt a pretty bad hand not only with my height but I have probably a 4/10 face, pretty thin frame only 6 inch wrists/9 inch ankles, I'm balding probably a norwood 2.5 at this point and I'm severely skinny fat. I can probably fix some of that with surgery and effort but would it get me anywhere? I know I'll never be Chad and likely wont sleep with much if any women but I really just don't want to die alone.
Depends WHY you’re self improving. If your objective is looksmaxxing, it’s a very expensive process for truecels. But while your height may cause a huge handicap in dating, it’s not as much of a death sentence with making friends. Being socially inept is probably the most crippling thing in the friendship arena. In short, if you’re somewhat sociable you could probably (but not guaranteed) make friends, but dating will be a struggle bus.
@@lordofgingers Damn, well thank you for the honesty. I guess my best option is just to go monk mode indefinitely or at least until most of my family isn't here anymore and I can just rope.
@@ForeverShadowBanned if you watch this channel enough you’ll realize that I do not believe in roping. My own take. While box is a big part of our wiring as men, we live in a different world that’s incompatible with our biology and while that comes with a lot of mismatches and hardships, there’s also a lot of neat copes in the modern age that make life livable. I wouldn’t go as far as roping over women. They’re not worth doing that to yourself and there are other things in life you can extract enjoyment out of even if it’s not your first choice
(SIGH) 🙄 Personally I find guys like you extremely annoying and utterly *DISGUSTING!* Why can’t more of your short guys just accept the FACT that YOU are NO different than the numerous TALL incels Ive known! Face the fact that some people *WIN* and many people *LOSE! Unfortunately (for YOU) you blame all of your failure and ineptitude and inadequacies on your height. You are just INADEQUATE as a man. PERIOD! As a 5’4” man I ONLY compare myself to REAL men who are the WINNERS in the room. Therefore you and I have absolutely NOTHING in common! Having dated many HUNDREDS of women and been sexually intimate with over 300 it has never been difficult to do what both short AND tall men like YOU can only fantasize about. Dozens of girlfriends and most of them range from above average to “very beautiful!” The REALITY CHECK for guys like you is this: If we instantly made you 8” taller do you honestly think that ANYTHING would change? You’d be 6’ tall. You would probably FEEL more confident but you would still be *YOU!* So no …not much would change! You’d just be yet another “tall” INCEL …and there are PLENTY of them! It is VERY common! The “tall” guy who does NOT attract or get women! You “black pill” guys ALL strike me as a bunch of low-IQ inadequate “men” who overcompensate for your mediocrity and your FAILURES as men by trying to reduce everything down to a quantifiable science rather than face YOUR reality! LIVED EXPERIENCE trumps ALL of this red; blue; black and rainbow pill 💊 utter NONSENSE! The truth is that men like ME have gotten far MORE and far BETTER women by ACCIDENT …than the majority of you black pill copers ever have or EVER will on purpose! And all WE have to do is just EXIST and be who we ARE. This is why I am creating content to expose all this sheer juvenile nonsense with both FACTS and something that nobody EVER shows which is evidence and receipts! I shall show some of my ex-girlfriends side by side next to women who have been voted by the public as “The Most Beautiful women in the World” 🌎…and let the audience decide for themselves. And I will show my beautiful wife next to the wives of the rich and famous and TALL celebrities and athletes. You guys WANT and NEED to believe that women, including beautiful women are all this superficial emotionally immature creatures who even WANT some loser just because he is either tall, rich, famous or even handsome. That belief alone only exposes how LITTLE you guys actually know and how INEXPERIENCED with women you actually are. MOST of the guys trying to “teach” are actually incredibly naive and relatively *CLUELESS* about women! What *EXCUSE* then will guys like you OR the tall men who do NOT get the same results have once you see the SUCCESS of a guy who is just 5’4” and is willing to compare his results and life with ANYBODY out there? 🤔
Weight matters as much as height to me a little bit more weight matters more than height.I’m 152 or 153 ish pounds and I’m 5’9 but look like 5’11 cause I’m thin. Also I can run pretty fast . I don’t play soccer but I do pretty good at soccer.
I would think that as long as they're not 30+% body fat with tummies to the floor, Endomorphs can also be perceived as strong with their large frames. Example: Mark Labbett from the British show The Chase. That guy is extremely attractive. He is not conventionally "handsome" or "pretty" but women are attracted to his imposing body, his charisma and intelligence. We look up to him in every way.
He’s also 6’6…just putting that out there. If you are that tall, pass the basic looks test, and then you have nonphysical qualities on top of that, pretty easy to see why concessions are made. Normies get a lot of play
@@lordofgingers he is beyond your "ideal zone" of 6ft 6ft 2. I guess it shows that it's always better to be bigger than "ideal" than smaller as a guy, because it's masculine and impressive. His very large size MAKES him attractive and it's not a niche.
@@lordofgingers Very tall men of large constitutions are extremely attractive. Jared Padalecki, Tom Selleck, Chris Hemsworth, Steven Seagal are just a few more examples. It's tall and lanky that has trouble working.
FOr me my complements have always been towards my hair and occasionally eyes. Body. Never. But I think it’s something they won’t come out and say no matter how impressive
20 years old, 6'1 barefoot (w/ shoes 6'2), 12-13% BF, dress in f...boy formal (sex appeal), plus got a beard, of Indian decent but get called Arab alot. Face-wise, 7/10 (face rated by Wheat Waffles) flaws are midface is 0.94:1 slightly on the longer side(1:1 ideal), lower-set cheekbones, steeper gonial angle (125-130°) and asymmetrical nose (due to reasons). Are these are deal breaker or stopping me from being a (8/10 by WW standards)? Also, I get approached by women in clubs (your hot, your sexy, your cute, women touching/bumping me, etc), women constantly staring at me, get messaged first on dating apps, etc. I barely get rejected by women in clubs/in person. As well as, I have gotten with white women (Canadian/Aus), Wog women (Italian/Greek, etc), Arab women (Lebanese/Iraq, etc), Asian women (Philippines/Cambodian, etc) and some other races but forgot. Thoughts anyone?
The university of Groningen you say ? Groningen is a city in the Netherlands. The Netherlands is a country where the majority of the population consists of large people. If you want a large man or large woman in Europe ?? The Netherlands is the country to search !
Funny because I'm short since middle school , stooped basically growing but I packed big muscles and was quite into rugby. One day in high school I became a little hero by stopping a predator who tried to rape a girl. Tall and massive guy. Still girls didn't like me because shorts guys can't protect a woman , even if everyone had proofs that happened. I'm not even that short , I live in Europe so 170 cm is like 5'6 or 5'7. Big big blackpill moment. I'm not sure if taking risk of being beaten by a guy more massive than me to help girls who despise me or not even consider me as a man was a wise decision. Almost 15 years latter even if it is far digested I still consider it as a very formative moment of my life. Wathever I do , it will never matter. I will never be loved. I just want this world to burn. Total chaos and anarchy would be a plus compared to civilisation to me. And that's what is wrong.
Yeah they made a study and compared a 6 foot guy with nothing going for him to a 5'5 millionaire book writer secret spy (add other WOW factor) and the chicks wanted nothing to do with the 5'5 guy LOL. As a five foot four male this has been my experience too however I am quite popular with grandma type women.
Hi. Regarding body frame, may I ask how much diameter are your wrists? I ask for body frame comparison by height. Specifically, is 17 - 17,5 cm wrist diameter good for 6"3 height? Thanks
6ft! Strong dad bod frames boys let’s go! Lol . This channel is amazing. Update. I’m doin great I’m having a hard time deciding between three girls though! Sub 5 gang lol. Thank got I’m tall and have a broad frame.
@@lordofgingers Thanks man. For the amazing feed back. You helped me a lot no joke. Keep up the great videos. This is One of my favorite RU-vid channels.
Yeah I've seen studies say cardio lowers testosterone. As a skinny guy you want to small numbers of reps with high resistance (as opposed to light weights with high number of reps) and do one muscle group one day, take rest days, work out a couple times a week. Resting is the big part about letting your muscles actually grow on off days
What if a man puts on the muscle but it’s still covered in fat. Is eating healthy without any cardio viable? If so that would certainly save men a lot of exertion?
@@lordofgingers cardio makes you very hungry. To get a cheeseburger out of the system it takes more than an hour. Building muscle on the other hand transforms fat into muscle. This way you burn more calories, because more muscle has this effect. So a one hour walk let's you loose more calories and you don't get so hungry.
No need to roast yourself so brutally broodah. Have you tried photofeeler with both phone quality and high quality cameras to get a sense of how you are perceived? Would be a good way to get an honest opinion from women. Since they’re anonymous there is no social disapproval for them to avoid so at least you’d know and then decide what to do from there
@@lordofgingers yes! I made a video about this! Guys I know who had success with women in real life did well on photo feeler. I used many pics and still got "below average" even when using pics I thought looked great
What was the quality of the camera? I get a little over 4/10 when I use my phone camera and a little over 6/10 when I use my Logitech brio. Meaning I’m probably a 5 IRL without any poor quality or fancy filters affecting my image
I’m 5’11 275 who’s athletic can bench 325 leg press lover 1100. I haven’t ran for time in a bit but last time I did I ran 2 miles in 22 minutes. Yes not marathon worthy but for someone who is 44 that is a pretty good pace. Yes I can stand to loose 30-40 pounds based on my body type. You can’t have tree stumps for legs and be skinny. And I can’t get a date even I paid someone to go out with me
I’m 6’5 myself. I enjoy it. But reading comments from guys on youtube talkin about wanting to commit suicide cause they’re short, is very concerning to me. I’ve seen plenty of short guys pull chicks. Just remember that not every chick is gonna like u. The key is to just brush it off. Don’t make a big deal about it.
Depends how short that determines how difficult it’s gonna be. When people tell me short dudes pull it’s usually 5’6 to 5’9 normies. That being said, men wanting to self delete over it is, indeed, very concerning
@@lordofgingers 5’6 to 5’9 sounds about right. This dude I know has pulled so many chicks, it’s unbelievable. But I’ve also noticed that women in the US like me a lot more than the women in my own country. They go crazy over tall guys.
12:00 For me it's more like your looks can be only as good as your face or height is. If you are 6'2 but have a 3/10 face, in a woman's eyes you are 3/10 and vice versa with a 10/10 face and being a manlet.
I'm just under 6', 6" tall. I have not done all that well with women, and never made the slightest attempt at dating until age 30 (53 now). Both my height and my relatively unsuccessful dating efforts are rather well explained by my very late autism diagnosis, though (The height being very likely caused by Marfan's Syndrome, a genetic connective tissue disorder, and connective tissue disorders are HIGHLY correlated with autism).
I mean if you’re like 5”11 then height wasn’t the disqualifier. Probably social impairment due to being on the spectrum was. That isn’t to say an autistic person can’t have good conversations. It’s just that compared to a neurotypical counterpart, they’re gonna have to work at it a lot more to be equally as effective. Didn’t say it was fair. Just is what it is
