She's being rude & badgering the poor guy who's being very nice and polite to her. He's a guard - if she wants to talk about religion - go find a temple, not a military base.
@@SeaJay_Oceans agreed, seemed unnecessary to grill that guy about that, should they have a great knowledge of every single religion for every single prisoner that comes in?? What if a Buddhist comes in?? A Scientologist??
@next one what's this got to do with Trump?? And before ya jump on me too, I'm English, I couldn't care less about Trump he's an idiot, but what's her badgering a guard got to do with trump? Don't be dumb
@Jen Robbie why u wasting ur time talking to a brainless person ? How do u expect me to process your wonderful knowledge. I am too simple for that, so leave me alone.
You must question morals of others to break them into giving information that they may be hiding, basic journalist tactic, you see them getting cut off by someone everytime she doesm
Everyone is sinful in the eyes of GOD so none of us are good,not 1. However,jesus died to forgive us of our sins and made a way out of darkness to be able to come into his presence in the kingdom of heaven. It's our choice who we wanna be and what we truly believe in our hearts.
it merely points out the hypocrisy of America's self perceived moral superiority which is supposedly derived from its liberal values yet is all to happy to disregard such values if it benefits the USA.
Think this reporter should look at any American prison before she took this lovely tour of Guantanamo. For example any American prisoner in American prison will be force fed if they refuse to eat after a certain period.
x x no but before anyone complains about how a prisoner is treated you should at least have a basic understanding of how prisoners are treated elsewhere. This prison for example doesn’t differ to much from a vast majority of any American prison. While it is drastically better than some military prisons for American Military personal. So I’m just saying Guantanamo isn’t anything really special at end of the day for American standards. But I do believe the prison system as a whole should be changed on how it’s looked at and treatment of prisoners. But I must admit the guards should have proper and complete understanding of what their job is with the proper training. The only flaw I saw here was how the guards see the prisoners. They are being looked at as terrorist and not as a person locked up. So I would have liked a reporter that had the basic understanding of the prison system to have an interesting educational Vice reporting instead of a reporter asking all the wrong questions and just learning what a prison really is for the first time and seeing her amazement.
johnny123 , that's not true. There's lots of VICE DoCs that are not Liberal and reporting just on the facts. Agreed most the reporters are young. but plenty are not "Left-wing", or "Left-Leaning"... Also this DoC didn't address plenty of questions it should have (vice's fault probably-eventhow it was decent), & there were several lies told by some of the interviewees. All they need to do is say, no comment or "we came answer"...just like they did some a the time. Dont agree or SAY YOU WANT More news outlets to come check out your facility , then bulk shot everyone. Fucking stupid.
What happened here was and probably IS going on is utterly atrocious, but some of the comments from the reporter were just stupid. Of COURSE they aren’t going to indicate where high value inmates are being kept. She was non stop asking security compromising questions.
@@giln4689 what kind of books are not allowed in the library? They were hella hostile at that point you are harping on the question at the very very end of the tour but some of you went to school to interview people so you know better I assume
@@Ronanpaul6969 glad I wasn’t the only one. She was clearly trying to ask questions she knew she wouldn’t get answered so she could make it more provocative. I loved the ex guard asking what she was fishing for, she clearly wasn’t expecting that. Also they made it seem like people just end up there by accident or something. 🤦♂️ not saying everyone is rightfully detained there, but I doubt these people were out saving kittens before they got there.
Killing Fields depends on what you say by legal. Using the local standards the Afghans or Iraqis would give these guys. This is very much legal and much better treatment than they would revive in prisons over there. By American standards then probably not, War laws and laws that apply to you and I are very different though. Look them up if you are curious.
"Can you tell me where are your most dangerous detainees and how do you get into their cells?" "No, I cannot tell you that." "I don't understand why my basic boring questions were not being answered."
Not being sexist here although every single person on the left will take it as such, but she’s just a typical, almost cliche female vice reporter. They’re literally all the same. It’s a shame because this had potential to be an awesome short documentary that was actually informational... But you nailed it on the head, very immature interviewer
@@deejayriney2031 I’m sure there are some good female journalists but they definitely don’t work at vice. As sexist as it is, I usually avoid any female vice journalists. There is one where one reporter is interviewing a fake Xanax bar. She kept blaming him for all the crime and children overdosing.
Terrible journalism. You were allowed into GUANTANAMO BAY, allowed to film and ask questions and managed to ask all the wrong stuff. I feel like a lot of those questions were meant to get a rise out of the guards, "have you educated yourself on the religion?" "Where do you keep the high value detainees?" Geez. Try again, Vice.
she asked the right questions if u are going to any other country u should at least have some knowledge about them what to do and not to do and all the other stuff. So the guards should have some information prior to the camp
What questions you think she should have asked? And I am wondering what you meant when you say " If she has been educated on the religion? or you meant "about the religion"and what religion we are talking here? thanks
I personally felt like they should not have went at all. I don't think there were any "correct" questions to ask because it is such a top-secret site, a lot of the more interesting questions like where high-value detainees are kept and their crimes couldn't be disclosed. Although I did feel that, as a journalist, it was a great opportunity, maybe it was something they should have passed on.
And what part of the prison is with no Gard do to low staffing problem is the key room always with and officer even on Sunday’s? Are you sure ? And the step by step response for and escape inmates don’t worry I bleep the secret stuff out .
Less than 1% of the detainees have been charged, it means rest of the detainees were innocents, the action against terrorism is nothing but vengeance; justice should be delivered fairly.
It is worse then that, the actions against terror are terrorism themselves. Locking up random ppl serves only one purpose, being to scare others, in other words, to terrorise. I've said it before and i'll say it again, the us is the main purpetraitor of terror on this planet. It is the bully that punches ppl in the face over an over, and then claims victimhood when someone finaly slaps back. Land of the brave? More like land of the cowardly and easy to scare.
And then they are released. Theres 1000 people being wrongly detained for any number of petty crimes. I would say detaining someone for a period of time who has suspicion of being a terrorist or other dangerous force is beneficial. Think with your mind bud.
@@randallabracadabra With other words, they kept them alive just to turture them. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA this world is so sick, and they do this LEGALLY. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA SO SICK
The amount of stupid ass questions these people were asking is hilarious. “Can you tell us where the high value inmates are at?”… Like have common sense.
Makes me so mad send the stupid girls to Mozambique and show them the people beheaded by these same Islamic state lunatic over 50. Innocent people. Maybe she will wake up
Those are National Security inquiries HVTs in this compound shouldn’t be disclosed. Yeah, I enjoy watching Vice but I was unimpressed with the way this report was undertaken. Very crass, as far as weighing in questions, lack of situational awareness for who and where and when to ask
most other detention centers and prisons run by the US government have no problem letting film crews and reporters in. then again, most other government detention centers don't hold people indefinitely without a trial using our tax dollars and doing it in our name. but yeah, let's criticize the reporter who's simply trying to document it instead. the shit americans get mad about is so weird.
@@thomaslast2611 1. I'm not American don't assume facts without previous knowledge this clearly highlights the self-righteous undertone of your scuffed comment. 2. I never made a comment about my opinion on if it was right or not to interrogate these people. 3rd and final point: if the American government chooses to investigate these suspects because they think they may be threats to the safety and wellbeing of the people then so be it I trust them to do so.
I got the impression that she wasnt allowed to ask certain questions. I kinda think they probably gave them a list of questions they couldnt ask. but thats just my thoughts.
@@dedaveful She literally asked "where are the high value prisoners kept" she could ask whatever the hell she wanted. Doesn't mean they would answer her but she could ask it
she asked all of the questions she wasn't allowed to ask and got no's to every question. If she were better at her job she would have asked better questions.
She is seriously acting surprised that they keep interrupting her questions or avoiding them when she is at a military base at the courtesy of the CO where we are holding prisoners we do not acknowledge even exist in our custody and likely many guards don’t know who they are guarding because it’s TS-SCI to just spill the beans so they can simultaneously destroy their career and go to military prison for leaking classified information? No and she is naive for even thinking that
@Walker Nicholas Barr did his joke just go over your head or something? Lol and as far as dangerous individuals go, there are far more dangerous prisoners in our regular state and federal facilities. These guys are just terrorists who have connections and are real low life POSs imposing their beliefs on everyone but some how think we'll understand how great their extreme beliefs are by killing a lot of innocent people... Great marketing strategy they use..
Good. Never met a dog that had bad intentions. Dogs are such pure creatures. To involve them with human problems is something they didn't ask for, but they do because they are loyal creatures.
This girl has a set goal on her mind before she even went there. She already decided everything bad she heard was true and everything bad about the guards was true and went there to try and sway the public to her point of view which is clearly misconstrued. She's not a journalist, she's just a super far left socialist millennial
So agree. If she has a problem with detainees being detained unconstitutionally she should interview someone else. Like a senator or congressman. The job of the guards is to keep the place secure.
@Anon nymous She said Enteral feeding. That is not rectal feeding. I don't agree with anyone being treated inhumanely - even if they are guilty of a crime. I also don't agree that anyone should be detained without due process. If there is no due process, they should be let go. But it is a prison. I'm just saying that if she really wants to do something about it, she should go where some real progress could be made. The guards are not where she will get anything done.
Tararu San hey, how about you stop inferring without Juninho the full story? Not our fault that your government has you blocked off and only wants you to see what it thinks is ok.
It’s also a military base, every single soldier from the base commander to the cooks has been briefed on what you can and cannot say. They really should have sent a military vet who knows the ropes instead. No one is getting fired or sent to military prison for spilling classified information to some hipster reporter. She just comes across as 100% naive about how the military works
@Benjamin Gray what do you want him to breakdown and say how awful he feels and how it put him.into a state of spiraling depression or gave him.severe ptsd or whatever else? She's trying to pry mental insecurities out of an ex military guard with a gun in his hand while on camera.. we don't even know what he was discharged for. These days anything you say can be easily misconstrued and he can very well have his 2A rights taken for saying the wrong thing on video posted for millions to see.
Where do you keep all the high valued detainees? why wont you let me go into a cell and interview people. that girl is stupid, they should have let here in there with them unsupervised. would have been a whole ass other piece/ "Why Gitmo is needed and why we should continue funding it" - vice.
You really think this is bad? What some terrorists who had bring suffering and death to the lives of millions, and you think stepping on a couple hands and giving them a little scuff from some pissed off guards, Really? People shouldn't be even thinking about giving these guys any sympathy, remember these are the guys who kill thousands if they do not comply with their religion, or behead people for doing their job. Get a fucking grip and see who these people are.
Most of these detainees have never been trialed nor condemned for anything so what you are saying is pretty much a lie till prooven otherwise. Also, "terrorists who had bring suffering and death to the lives of millions", "these are the guys who kill thousands". You should send this quotes to Chuck Norris for another Delta Force movie.
TwoFistsOneHalleluja You know what the proof is? Special Forces go to villages they sit down with the local elders they ask who is who and what do they do who is taliban, Al-Qaeda ect. They go to the peoples house, If they comply for questioning in lets say Bagram, then its fine and they get questioned, and if they are found not guilty then they go back to the village, if they are found guilty for crimes, they go to Guantanamo or Prison
george phillips So basically if a village elder has a dispute with a neighbor over some sheeps he could simply call the US troops and tell them that his neighbor is a talib and the US troops would come by and arrest him... Do you see now why "the village elders told us so" is not a valid proof? A real investigation and a fair trial are needed, period.
Name one news source that is focused on the actual topic... Where woukd they gain suppirt and vewiers from...ya'llknow this is a business wolrd right?? Go to work or turn off youtube if you are so inclined to type and do nothing about it
VICE as naval gazing pseudo reporters doing little more than take video selfies with the topic at hand ? More a statement of media and American culture... But yes, formal journalism demands impartial reporting and NO SLANT... while what is broadcast now a days is ALL SLANT - literally an endless editorial of the Corporate media's opinions and political views, often influenced by their foreign funding sources. Journalism no longer exists in the MSM.
You seriously have to ask “why can’t we get all the details of security and troop deployment” ? A child could understand why you can’t have that information
@@rianalee3138 her to not ask an obvious question, it’s pretty obvious why she wasn’t going to get an answer to a question that would’ve compromised opsec and put the guards and other personnel at gitmo at risk
@@rianalee3138 opsec is the same as common sense, you don’t discuss the topics that she was asking about, it should be very clear why someone won’t tell you where a soldier is, how many there are, where HVT’s are kept
@@featgorgon3985 many of the topics she discussed were completely fine in regards to security, and no, it’s not the same as “common sense”. however, many of her more specific questions seemed to be out of line or seemingly useless and the responses were predictable.
Her idea of subtle: 1.Ask calm cool questions for 10 minutes 2. wHeReS dA iSiS 3.Ask calm cool questions for 10 minutes 4. dO u BeAt ThEm 5.Ask calm cool questions for 10 minutes 6. wHaT dEy Do? 7.Ask calm cool questions for 10 minutes 8. tElL mE tHe DeTaIlS
Emphasis: Anyone could have been arrested and thrown in there just for being at the wrong place at the wrong time. Meaning: Innocent people are still in there...
Funny Americans accuse other countries of doing horrible things since they keep the things they do in the shade but when America does it "It's to protect the people working there" I don't care which side you take, just make sure to apply your standards to all countries and not be a hypocrite.
Typical nationalist. I can't criticize you unless I sympathize with your enemy? Give me a break. I never even mentioned Muslims and comparing your justice system to religious extremists is like comparing your food to shit. I won't go down to your level of replaying propaganda and calling anyone "savages".
Masayuki Uokawa I agree with you it's a lot better compared to many other countries, but simply being "better" doesn't make it good. Simply excusing a country's actions because "at least it's not as bad as this other country" is the same logic Putin uses "America did worse things than us, so they have no right to judge what we do." So I'm not anti-American if that's what you were thinking, I judge hypocrisy wherever I see it.
Reporter: Can you tell us where the high value detainees are Soldier: Sure they're round back just to the right we keep the key to the cells on the wall😂🤣 Is what she thought he would say
Lmao I had to stop the video and look at the comments after she asked that question. Vice usually puts out really great content but this reporter sucks.
Yes and shes a journalist that's literally her job she cant just let the Americans get away with showing us propaganda she has to ask real questions and find out what's really happening
Really asked "why is that necessary", you know what interviewer. You're absolutely right why is it necessary to watch a bunch of prisoners. Makes me curious 🤨
uhh she meant why is it necessary to watch them 24/7 is what she meant. just ask your parents or someone to watch u for 2-3 hours and tell them to observe each and every movement of yours you would understand how terrible you would fee.
Fucking Gitmo prisoners have PS3s to play? The place turned from a "hardcore torture detention camp" to some type of summer island halfway house for addicts.
chownful I know, right? As if the forced feedings, beatings, blindfolded stress positions, dogs, water-boarding and sleep deprivation wasn't enuf, now these guys get PS3s!!!
***** Good, let it be a lesson to any of those who dare try to harm the United States of America. Terrorists are not a national military and therefore they are not subject to the Geneva convention, not like we would actually follow that 100% anyways.
10 out of 10 "can you tell us where the high value detainees are" Would you like to ask them for there Social security number and Credit card Numbers next?
"What are you fishing for", like that guy. The interviewer was poorly choice and didn't seem prepared or knew what she was getting her self into but it was a great document thanks to the old guard.
Holdbrooks , know more about our country and secret Government ,secret Prison that not even Obama could shut it Down , one day soon the least to Guantanamo will run out and it will go back to Cuba or Cuba might get invaded by the USA .,Just like the Panama canal .
@yes that’s the point though, the woman in this video is a professional journalist and yet still fucks it up asking questions that she shouldn’t be asking. And no, we aren’t professional journalists yet would still know not to ask stupid questions like she did, ‘can you tell me where any of the high level detainees are?’ What else did she expect😂
i have the feeling they're trying not to show them the true guantanamo bay. they only show the happy sunny friendly side but not the dark and brutal side. also this reminds me of the vice documentary when they got into north korea- all colors, happiness and whatever but obviously acted out poorly trying to cover up the bad side. finally after editing this comment for the THIRD time it appears the united states government is no better than that of others such as nazi germany, soviet russia, or north korea. this video gives me another reason as to why im not a fan of the united states or its present, past, or future actions on the world.
Jesus christ VICE you sent a reporter that just about every question she stupidly asked broke OPSEC protocols. What in the hell do you think would happen? "so whos the HVTs?" Really? Come on now.
In any type of prison, these questions are normally asked. Go and watch the series "behind bars" you will find the reporter asking all sorts of questions. Stupid.
A real pity that the interviewer was unprepared and asked all of the wrong questions. I think the worst part about the whole video was the obvious bias and lack of impartial journalism.
The other reporter was just shitty at asking questions and when the other reporter asks a question which is always going over the boundary’s even in normal circumstances they would shut them down and I kind of understand why but the main reporter asked basic questions that were reasonable we’re mainly allowed which was nice.
I love vice, they are a great source for reliable journalism and I will continue to support them. BUT... ethics of gitmo aside.. some of the reporters questions and interactions would clearly violate operational security if they weren't stopped or redacted, and that can cause serious danger to the servicemembers working here. I understand people have a right to know what their government is doing. But sometimes it's just an issue of the safety of people working in and around the installation. There are extremely dangerous people here with dangerous connections in the world. And I think the journalist is plenty intelligent enough to realize that. Unfortunately some of these opsec-related interactions appear framed in a way that's misleading to the average viewer, which is distracting from what's otherwise an important discussion. And some of the questioning was extremely loaded. Again, there are problems here that should be addressed, but it would be more effective to get to the root of them rather than hope to catch someone saying something that sounds ignorant or intolerant in a soundbyte
Reporter: "Can you tell us where the high value detainees are?" **Gets kicked out for asking probably the most operationally sensitive questions you could ask** Reporter also: "We were trying to be careful but still trying to get the real story.. they're asking us to get out of here." 🤦♂️
@@r0hko here's what she was thinking "how can I get the true facts out" don't blame the reporter when your not even in journalism. It's not your job judge her job
@@crunchthedying5606 She asked for the location of high value detainees, which is something you and I, and pretty much anybody with common sense, knows cannot be disclosed to potentially millions of people through a youtube video. She was kicked out for that along with the other stupid questions that antagonize the guards at Guantanamo.. it doesnt take a genius to figure out that those questions were going to get them removed from the guide.
@two bears high fiving I'm sorry but your responding to a question from two months ago? Like don't say my questions are dumb when I'm not even a journalist, I'm allowed to be bloody curious
Why would she ask if that LT had any understanding of their religion? 1. That’s not his job and 2. Do you think they have an understanding of his religion if he chooses to live by one?? Terrible interviews and definitely geared by her own views and not everyone else’s which is what we all want to see.
boss Ambedkarite not his job. His job is to receive prisoners, check on them regularly, make sure they are not doing anything wrong, and making sure that there is peace in the prison. It is the government’s job to understand the religion and make the choice whether they are innocent or not not the guards. He is there to respect the prisoners and ensure peace.
she isnt asking the right questions and her lack of knowledge is being used against her by the military personel not just her but the whole crew that went in period , the staff at the facility succeded in only letting us see what they wanted us to see
How tf are people in the comments missing the fact that these people were not charged with anything, no trials, they were detained for nothing. What terrorism are you blabbing about? These were innocent people illegally detained.
How do you know that? None of us know the real stories and that guy from Bosnia could very well have been making himself out to be innocent. If we don't have real detailed non-speculatory information, then how can we make a rational judgement on whether which people are innocent or guilty and to what extent that guilt is?
Why does having understanding of islam matter? They are soldiers and just need to follow order from above. This lady has to be the worst vice reporter.
because it's important to understand your enemy? If you want to solve a problem it's important to understand what causes it. Fighting islamic terrorists without actually reading the book is kind of stupid. That's why the US failed in Afghanistan. Because it didn't bother to learn about their cultures.
Yeah because they are some of the most dangerous people in the world , and also a lot of powerful people that if they are left alone with an employees can corrupt them or treat them saying they are gonna kill their family and so on. Omg it is common sense. If they are there they are dangerous. Ur totally right.
The big fat dude was the reason I watched vice cause the dude had balls and made the documentary lot more interesting than some object who knows shit about the place she is in
Some of Vice is really good, such as almost all the stuff with Shane Smith is really good. But she just asks dumb questions that show how little she understands about the world and why certain things have to be done the way they are done.
Moronic journalist: "Can you tell us how to open the doors? What the codes are to open the cells? Where are the high priority detainees kept? Where exactly are the security blind spots?" Guard staff: "No we can't tell you that" Moronic Journalist: Again, for some reason our very basic, boring questions apparently asked for too much detail.
22:09 Wow! Shocking! He's so nice. If they'd made the guards like this in the first place, they would have had a sense of who's who and gotten more information.
The biggest lie he told was that he thinks they're held there justly and legally. Not sure how, seeing they're held there without trial and no evidence against them. Out of the 800 or so, all of them were released with an apology and an option to be given a green card and settle in the US but many had chosen to go back to their countries.
Laughed my ass off in the beginning “ You ever get any feedback?” “No news is good news” after 10 years of working prison kitchens on and off against my will
How does that make her a terrible interviewer? Do you even know when, why and under whose presidency was this detention camp made? What kind of prisoners are there?
Yea that's what I never understood. The bigger and more famous they got the shitter the journalists are it's like they just scrapped community college journalist students n just allow them to be "unique in their own way" instead of giving its audience 100% unbiased, true, real work, actual journalism with 100% authenticity behind every statement. It seems like the vice owners just said "just pursue your stories and be the best u can be" everyone is a winner I guess. U dont see any real questions nor any indication she did real fundamental detective work just popping out questions that any high school student could ask honestly. Vic's just has better video and audio quality
It's a hit piece slanted to be critical of the guards and staff, who selflessly defend their nation while also protecting the enemies of USA. She is lying - acting shocked - because they would have told her she can't film certain things, and can't ask about operational procedures. She should know that most of the books and other items are most likely donated stuff. Harry Potter ? Really ?
i'm a muslim who wants gitmo closed, but even i agree that vice sent the wrong reporters. they were asking some really dumb questions and sounding overly pretentious and idealist there are MANY MANY innocent people in gitmo, i would say a large majority, and the american policy in gitmo is a point used by radicals to recruit yet even more, but there ARE bad people in gitmo, even if they are in the minority. this reporter seemed to think everyone in there was an angel
tony garcia obviously not what i said. of course there are a bunch of horrible people who deserve to die (rather than be given free food and shelter) but there are also many innocents. my point was about the video itself, which was a negative one
