What's Going on With Civ 3's Modern Era 

The modern era is worth it to play through just for the fantastic music, such as StarsFull.

"You cannot have barbarians blocking the sea route in order to trade over sea tiles." I think the Houthis have made that point pretty clear...

"If you want the war-time production bonus, just declare war on a shitty civ on the other side of the world" George Bush in 2003, probably

Some bonus facts: -You can stack up to 4-5 flaks on a tile, and the anti air will grow proportionately -Pollution can disorder your cities, if you're using the happiness slider, and the polluted tile has high commerce -If you airdrop on top of an existing unit (with heli or a paratrooper), your air drop will fail and you will lose the units you dropped. That's ANY unit. Even if you airdrop on a worker, your troopers will still die. So recon first!

Babe, wake up, Suede just posted.

Thanks suede! This was also super helpful for the WWII Pacific scenario regarding the airfield tech.

As for me, I like my game as long as it could be, so I can really experience it - I am able to play one game for days, guess I am a little weird, maybe more than a little😂

My strategy for modern age is simple: 1. Build a lot of cities 2. Build an enormous military 3. Get mutual protection pacts with everyone 4. Declare war on everyone 5. Take advantage of the chaos to seize as much land as possible 6. Rinse, wash, repeat

It's worth it for the music alone

I hadn't considered playing Future Start before but now I kinda want to.

Im the opposite, I hate fast games🤣Irrelevant if I win or lose...

Civ 3 has a certain grim realism to it in some ways* that Civ 2 never had, and that Civ 4 abandoned. It was definitely an interesting attempt to improve the franchise. I might try your multiplayer mod someday! * 1. Floodplains generate disease that is only suppressed with Sanitation 2. Recycling provides a production discount but does not reduce pollution 3. Modern ships are very vulnerable to air attack (Pearl Harbor did illustrate this) 4. Fascism government kills off a portion of your population (because someone has to be blamed for food shortages / space lasers)

Nice Vid suede! Maybe you should showcase that multiplayer future scenario you were talking about. Play a series of games with rabdag :)

Your point about bad governments being good in modern applies to Feudalism as well, since it gives a massive free unit supply for small cities. Somewhat relatedly, not having access to this government in Scenario 4 is a massive pain, because Monarchy has terrible unit support for towns and the unit cost can really stall out your research, especially in Roman Catholic civs that are designed around not being able to grow most towns into cities. Being able to switch between them would also benefit all the religious civs that otherwise are missing half their bonus. I'd also love a video on the industrial era, since teching into it or starting in it is such a drastic shift. A bunch of the big changes you highlighted come into play during the early industrial era, not to mention the one two punch of rifleman and infantry to make wars of aggression far more tricky.

Interesting stuff! Would love to see your units tier list

Hi Suede, could you cover and/or rank worker tile improvements? For example, are forts useful? When would you irrigate vs mine? Is planting forests useful? Thanks for your great content!

Is it just my version of the game or is the scientific advisor's dialogue just broken in the industrial era? When you hover over a tech that you can research the scientific advisor usually says something about it, which works up until Ironclads where he talks about intercepting nukes with Strategic Missile Defence. Is this because of a tech that was removed or added before the conquests expansion which messed up the numbers or something?

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The biggest thing I don't like about Civ 3 (at least in single player), that gets far worse as you move into the later eras is how they handle strategic resources. You only need one souce of a resource to spam out infinite amounts of the strongest units. Kills most of the fun and strategy in the modern era when it feels like the Civ with the highest productivity wins the war 90% of the time because they managed to spam out more tanks and bombers.

Bro how do I make mobile SAMs work against bombers???

anarchy time is linked to empire size??

I'll never get why they changed the minimap. I'm almost certain that on the original civ 3 (from CD) your capital was the centre of the map until you hit a tech (maybe map making). This made sense to me since you wouldn't know if you were north/south at the outset.

Interesting that the late game governments are only bad/not worth switching to in the base game because their bonuses are less meaningful at the point of the game that you'd unlock them, like the worker move bonuses, and usually aren't worth the loss of tempo from the anarchy unless you're religious maybe. And of course, fascism not causing the loss of population because you have no population to lose lmao

I believe radar towers do not affect air combat... sadly

Can you make peace with a civ you are already at peace with? Like re-negotiate peace to get out of war time?

Can you stack war time and Golden Age bonus?

I disagree, cruise missile are the best in the game they can kill units if you build enough of them.

Thank you Suede. After 20 years I learned something new : that recycling feature. You made my day 🥲