One of the longest running firearms in the Carey Concealment fleet, the CZ P09/P07 is undoubtedly one of the most reliable pistols I've ever shot. Enjoy the breakdown.
What people confuse is these are originally military guns and the trigger is intended to be long and heavy given the nature of their military use (as DA/SA should be). If you want a light trigger then go with a striker system gun which CZ also makes. It does not make sense to ask for a gun to be what it is not intended to be.
Precisely. Those who compare DA/SA hammer fired to SA SF are doing themselves no favors (with respect to the trigger). There's very few hammer fired DA/SA firearms in this price point with triggers that are anything to write home about.
the people who talk about the "triggers" are people who dont shoot the gun enough to justify the price of changing the trigger... to those people its a talking point... my gun has 2k rounds almost and its laughable when people shoot this after saying that gun sucks... they shut the hell up and they go out and look to buy one.... want to play around with a gun?? buy a glock waste all your money thats fine... want a gun that will go to he// and back then this is what you want..
@@lukaszimmermann2215wow that’s saying alot. I dont own a HK45 but I do have the P30 and I love it. Also just got the P01 AND P07 within two weeks of each other lol. I prefer hammered fired guns now🤷🏾♂️
The heavy trigger is essential to prevent negligent discharge! Under stress a stricker fired is way to easy to fire and you could never take that stray bullet back! If you’re that sensitive to nice trigger pick yourself up a sig p226 legion
Not all big gun reviewers are honest people. Some are paid to say only good things about the firearm they're reviewing. It's best to watch several reviews from both big and small creators to get a bigger picture, then buy the gun if you're convinced it's good enough.
@@dillonc7955 Lot of reviewers are pre-paid right, but I went through plenty of reviews, range tests, hundreds of comments, even from guys who are preffering different brands and more than 90% are praising CZs and recommending trigger operation overall 🤔
What facts are you referring to? Do you have some documentation that shows instances of folks having NDs with striker guns compared to guns with Decockers or safety?
@@careyconcealment1008 I'd be surprised if those numbers are available. I would also assume that well over half of AD's are unreported. Just common sense and science.
The trigger on these guns is fantastic. The pull is not that heavy and it is smooth. My wife is 120 pounds soaking wet and she shoots the P0 9without any problems at all.
MCarbo kit combined with CGW short reset kit take this gun to a whole other level for about $100. The polishing is what really does it. DA under 7lbs SA under 3lbs with a shortened reset.
Okay, I'm weird. I happen to find the P07/P09 trigger tolerable, probably because I haven't used a $1000 gun with a "Cajunized" trigger. I find it MUCH better than the M&P 2.0 Subcompact I had (THAT thing felt crunchy). Yeah, my wife's Sig P365XL is marginally smoother, maybe. But it's a striker gun, and I like the firm trigger as a "now I don't have to remember to sweep the safety off as I draw one-handed in a pinch." And, since I've worked with my hands for most of my life (mechanic, carpenter, stuff like that), I have moderate- to good hand strength.
This seems to be the general assessment. Some folks have good experiences, others (myself) have horrible ones. Seems to be a lack of consistency. To your other point, it's certainly possible to get spoiled by high end guns.
first off you just compared a double action gun to a striker fired subcompact lost all cred for me... second the triggers packages do nothing for the single action of the gun.. just shows you that you don't know.. you said firm trigger of a striker?? pro get out and shoot you clearly just buy guns
I just bought the suppressor ready, black, P-09, black, , tall night sights, 2- 21 round magazines, 500 clams. Too bad CZ discontinued the P-09 2023.... Libricate yours.
Bought my CZ p09 from cajun gun works , double is 6.5 pounds and single is 2.5 pounds , the single reset is so short it is impossible to not reset , it is so fast once you get into single action , shoot it better then any of my other guns
Whats faster, toggling a thumb safety on a striker fired pistol, or having the first round be doublr action? I honestly don't know. I'd just be afraid that I would forget to toggle the thumb safety in a streasgul situation.
@@careyconcealment1008 I carry a Taurus G3 with a thumb safety. I practice drawing it and toggling the safety in one motion (with an empty pistol, obviously). I've gotten pretty good at it, but I'm still not sure I could do it in an adrenaline dump situation. I'm not former military or law enforcement, so I don't have the experience to know. I am an ex collegiate wrestler, so I'm used to pressure situations. That said, no one is going to kill you in a wrestling match!
We all have our opinions, and saying the trigger isn't great is fine. I, too, have shot wheel guns through the years, and that is probably why I don't think the trigger is bad. I also shoot 1911s, and to compare it against that isn't fair, and let be clear you didn't. Even a cheap 1911 has a better trigger than most other semi autos. Ole John Browning was a genius when he designed the 1911. I at was then range last week and made the mistake of shooting my Kimber Target ll before shooting my P07, and before getting the "trigger feel" back, shooting the P07, it kind of sucked. But after shooting a mag it wasn't bad again. LOL
I have two of these it seems the trigger is smoothing out for me. For some reason I shoot these better than any glock I've owned it was painful for me to realize, as I have always loved them but my short thick hands I just can't shoot them as well as I would like. So I'm glad these are so reliable and robust I really feel confident in them
Striker fired pistols are never as safe as pistols with thimb safeties, or DA/SA pustold with decockers. If you're tired, abd accidentally catch your shirt while holdyering your striker fired pistol, it will likely go off. The trigger blades are not meant to protect agaibst this. They're meant to ensure the pistol is drop safe. To my knowledge, Smith & Wesson M&P's are the only well known striker fired pistols, that have an option for a thumb safety.
I have two. I didn't do nothing with the triggers. Do you think that the hammer can fall down by itself if it is carried cooked and unlocked or it is impossible?
Have you ever had any problems with the split roll pins from dry firing? I have read that these should be swapped for a solid pin. Also, don't dry fire them without a snap cap or other device for the pin to hit.
Do not change out with a solid pin. The pin is made to wear out over time. The CGW pin is a better design, but always dry fire with an oring under the hammer.
@@careyconcealment1008 I've been trying to find the OD Green model, because it's the only one that comes with the Tritium night sights. It's been an exercise in futility! I did find one for sale for just under $600, but that seems steep for this pistol. I can buy the black version for $400. It comes with the standard white dot sights. I'm not sure how good they are.
People P07 is a duty gun with no safety. Do not put a light trigger on that gun. Thats very wreck-less and stupid and you’re asking for trouble. Prosecutors will be drooling to get you locked up if a accidental discharge happens.
Any suggestions for night sights? Just got home with the P07 but other than XS big dot’s cant find any aftermarket sights. Or is the OEM sights good enough?
If you got the urban grey or od green, it comes with night sights. If you got the standard black gun you can go to night fision and buy tritium sights. Like $100-$120.
Unfortunately I'm not a great resource for this question. I'm firmly a red dot guy at this point. If I do have irons, I prefer a blacked out rear and a fiber front
@@careyconcealment1008 no worries, I found something. I like optics too, got one on my XDM Elite Tactical. For whatever reason, I’m more accurate with irons🤷🏾♂️
you have no idea what you are talking about.... NO ONE SHOOTS DA EVERYTIME... the fact you act like a DA trigger pull is bad its because you dont understand how the gun works.. second you still have the barcode on the gun.. meaning you didnt shoot it much if at all... DA is 10 lbs and the SA the way its meant to be fired is 3 LBS... its based on the CZ 75 metal platform and the phantom i do believe.
It's a shop tool, it doesn't get much attention. I have lots of rounds on a p07, and didn't feel it was necessary to repeat those rounds on the p09. I never said your shoot from DA every time, but your ALWAYS start with it when you draw, so it's important to note the DA performance.
1. You said its a terrible trigger!? Thats a lie of the highest order. Most da/sa have a have da trigger and sig and hk are notorious heavy triggers for than cz. 2. You talk both sides your mouth of the gun! sad its bad then you praise it?? 3. Ive have taken many new shooter to the range and all have preferred my P07 or p09 vs sig, hk, Springfield because of the smoothness and the trigger (da/sa). I just dont agree with you due to my ownership experience for more than 7 yrears.
@BigheroC I'm not going to lie, I had a hard time understanding your counterargument. I'll say this, the p07/p09 are fantastic pistols, and they have a lot to praise. It is possible to like certain aspects of a platform while still critiquing individual components, the trigger in this case. I'm glad you enjoy your cz, have a nice day.
Having owned 7 of these, I agree 100% with the stock trigger. The only modern DA/SA trigger that is worse is the HK P30. As Jason said, the MCARBO with the CGW short reset kit brings it to almost LTT Beretta levels.
i have to say that you don't have any idea and 7 of these and you say that the stock is bad??? the trigger that you spend a lot of money for is just to lighting the DA from like 10-11 down to like 6-7 lbs. that's it. nothing for the single action. and i shoot single action... have to say you are wrong. i have a czp09 not sold it about to get the p07. the single action is 3lbs... and watch langdan he tells you that he only lightens the DA.... its not worth the money spent..
@@MRsolidcolor the stock trigger is horrible!!! Heavy with an extremely vague break, especially in SA. And if you knew anything about the CGW kit, it actually brings the SA trigger pull to well under three lbs with a defined wall. And factory, the SA is over 5.
