What's it like being a Chinese Indonesian International Student in Taiwan ? 

是否可討論關於黑人自己都會害怕黑人，如此還能說白人黃人真的具有歧視？

My pleasure

勇於發表不官腔是最可貴的特質

很帶種但很客氣 你形容的真好😂

很多國民黨的支持者毫無國際觀，就是不暸解美中對抗的國際情勢

看哪所大學及什麼科系吧！

學店學不到東西很正常吧

因為少子化，為了生存學校不敢得罪學生，所以每學期末學生也可以對老師打分數，老師若太認真，教學太難或是給學生太多作業，導致學生被當或畢不了業，老師就被學生列為 "不喜歡"，"不喜歡" 的老師可能會被學校開除。

I'm not surprised. Even we Asians, think each other like this. I'm from South East Asia. But, I do love East Asian culture more than South East Asian culture.

These stereotypes thing in Taiwan is not as bad comparing to Hongkong, i think Hongkongers ,especially the older generations are very racist, they even look down on their own people from the mainland, who…30 years ago were mostly poor , backward commie infected mind immigrants. Now many mainland immigrants are bright businesses, well educated people (western education too), but still receiving resentment because of their behavior, conservative, old fashion, out dated culture…

It's just a common/stereotyping thinking. Because as Singaporean, I understand what's she's talking about. For Singaporeans, when we are talking to some Filipinos or Indonesians, we will also assumed that they are coming here to be healthcare workers such as nurses or helpers to elderly but it's totally wrong concept. Some of them can be doctors, engineers or even singers. I remember there's a family who came to Singapore to work as pub/club singers too (the whole family). So it's humans who always love to assume what are unknown to us.

In Europe and US it is the Indonesian who protect Chinese (east Asian) people. For example there are 2 million Indonesian in Netherlands and also strong INDOS community in US and Australia, Switzerland and remember Indonesian has 35 million Christians in Indonesia and 5 million Christians Overseas. THE INDONESIAN SPREAD ALL AROUND THE WORLD TOO.. ASIAN MOST MIXED WITH EUROPEAN.

I worked in a chinese restaurant for a year and if my boss wasnt a 5 ft tiny lady i prolly wouldve knocked her out😂 They can be so disrespectful and its a global phenomenon. Everywhere they go theyre always facing some kind of backlash

嗨Jack! 謝謝你願意分享（不是說很美好）的經驗🥹😅☀️ 但你說的每一點我非常認同而且都有經歷過😅 真的是辛苦了🥹☀️ 我覺得我們就當個退一步的人，很常時候其實很清楚被這樣對待跟講話是非常不喜歡且覺得對方很沒禮貌、但就包容他們的好奇心還有無惡意來跟他們解釋還要嘻嘻哈哈配合對方🙃 可是我只是想跟你說，your feelings are VERY valid!! Yes, what they said are mean and rude sometimes and IT IS NOT OKAY AT ALL!! Don’t let those mean comments get you to think like “沒差反正習慣了”，因為我們這些無奈行為就讓對方覺得這樣對其他人說是正常的，但並沒有！ 我覺得我們要讓這「只是開玩笑你幹嘛走心」的文化慢慢去改變，因為這些行為不會讓他們看起來很幽默但只是沒禮貌還有很幼稚😊

WOW 沒想到本人回覆我拉 感謝妳！ 我同意你說的，大部分當我知道對方不是以惡意、歧視為出發點的時候，我都會退一步並包容，不會有太多感受。 只是常常我在想，我在台灣出生都還是被很多人這樣無意識地對待... 那當我是真正的外國人時，那種無法融入，總是覺得自己無法被真正的接受，那種感覺一定是很差的。 我也要跟妳說聲辛苦啦！ Meantime, I agree that you said it is totally not ok at all. I do think all of us need to have more self-awareness when facing a different culture or people. 所以，我覺得大家能做的，其實最簡單的就是「一視同仁」，對任何人都不要有「特別」好、壞的待遇，就把他們當生活在同一塊土地的人接納，這樣其實就很棒了！

對世界、歷史無知的人，不管在哪一個國家，都是多數。 我不是要為台灣人辯護，而是，這是現狀。 不過，印尼華人或華僑這個問題，由於現在的高中歷史教科書中有不少的篇幅在談這個主題，所以對此無知的人，將來會少一點 至於，對稍微深膚色人的態度，東亞區大概都差不多，這也是歷史造成的... 刻板印象不是太好，但刻板印象也是人類生存演化出來的能力，確實該改變，但不容易。

1，2點可能在30年前會發生，我很好奇你認識的人都是那個圈子的？為什麼集合了我從來沒遇過的這麼沒有常識的人^_^

搞不清楚印尼跟印度會不會太誇張了？除非教育程度較低的，若台灣大部分都無知單純到這程度，台灣不可能成為科技和貿易大國的，不過天龍國人連對台灣中南部人都心存歧視，很多人每年都到日本等國玩，却對台灣中南部很陌生，可能一輩子沒去過幾次，所以也不是只針對東南亞人的

Hi Polly! Thankyouu for the nice words 🥹☀️ i do love taiwan but no place is perfect and so is my home indonesia and probably every other dream countries🥹🥹🥹 I hope this humble opinions of mine and Jay’s platform can be some help in the future☀️☀️☀️

Not in Malaysia, they ignored Chinese people

​@@panurotomangkuwanito4728lol stop lying. Chinese in malaysia and singapore are racist af. They need to be deported 😂

Hallo, MERDEKA !!!!!. Salam dari sesama bangsa Indonesia.

Penduduk asli Taiwan di Indonesia ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bcqhs39DHE0.htmlsi=iKB43F8-j5Ir1oKh

i don’t think so on malaysia, i heard they excluded themself from the society, and i heard the indian descendants do this too. the chinese and indian descendants there don’t even speaks malay properly. i’m really glad that everyone in indonesia no matter if it’s indigenous ethnicities or descendants of foreign ethnicities still proud to speak bahasa indonesia, because it will be a chaos to speak on our own ethnic language for a country with 1.340 ethnicities not even counting the numerous of foreign descendants ethnicities that proud to be indonesian.

感謝 Ivana 的分享

😆

Diplomatic way

謝謝🙏

台灣加油

一堆高級權貴，他們的二 三代亦是如此

台灣原住民代表團下南洋印尼尋根認親 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bcqhs39DHE0.htmlsi=iKB43F8-j5Ir1oKh

Penduduk asli taiwan adalah bangsa austronesian yang menyebar di banyak negara asia tenggara seperti indonesia filipina malaysia. Rumpun bahasa mereka juga mirip misalnya: 1 satu / esa 2 dua / dawala 3 tiga / telo 4 empat / ampat 5 lima / limo 6 enam / anim 7 tujuh / pito 8 delapan / wali 9 sembilan / salawa 10 sepuluh / siplo

I think Ivana will reply you directly 😎

Hi Daniel! In my humble opinion lol *since a lot of people are very pressed on the comments about the education system i mentioned* 😅, my major is communication, I don’t know much about other majors though. When i was in undergrad, i had most classes in lecture styles, and not much interaction between students and professors. Even in small group discussions, almost everyone is very quiet it felt like everyone is just reluctant or afraid to voice out their opinions, which honestly I’m nervous too when i voiced out my opinion on Jay’s video. It feels like we only seek for the correct answers when most of the time its not required to always have *the correct answer*. To be honest, i didn’t learn much in undergrad, but the one thing i learned was how to socialize and build a friendship while trying to survive in a completely different environment and culture! I think the things we all can improve is being respectful to everyone, when in class or outside class, building a safe environment and space for students to voice out their opinions without the fear of being judged would help a lot rather than just having a one way teaching style and passive interaction. And yes we speak mostly in hokkien😆 but we don’t really speak mandarin, even my dad cant speak a single chinese because there was a period of time when Mandarin is completely restricted by the government. I hope these clarified some of the misunderstandings on the video, thankyou for being very respectful! ☺️☀️

@@ivana_tania Thanks for responding Ivana! What you said is something I've been hearing a lot about the Taiwanese education culture actually (I've never studied in Taiwan, I was born and raised in Canada). I hope they improve on that. Would it be fair to say that your and your family is more fluent in hokkien than in Mandarin?

@@danzwku yes! I would say even some professors are sometimes a little bit stubborn and won’t let students explore more🥹😅 but i hope this education system and culture will improve in the future☀️ Yes! But even our hokkien is more diverse hahaha a lot of mixture of Hokkien, Indonesian, and English!😅😅😅

@@ivana_tania I was in high school when I learned that what we called "Taiwanese" wasn't inclusive to Taiwan lol and that they spoke it in many other countries like Indonesia, Singapore, Malaysia, and even the Philippines. So really we should call it Taiwanese Hokkien because its our own way of speaking it, but since it became the dominant language here for a few hundred years it just became known as Taiwanese ha. I was very happy to have met a Chinese Indonesian a few years ago who would later become my best friend.

越南工是蠻弱勢的，但也是問題產生最多的移工

Hey Yu, 感謝你的深度留言. 我覺得台灣大部分人情況是停留在"刻板印象"的層級, 也就是人對於特定團體特質有「特定的信念」。 如果加上情緒以及行為偏差,就是導致成偏見行為以及歧視.(當然我相信還是有部分人士比較靠近這情況) 政府有意識的推廣友善東南亞文化的態度。不過這兩方面的速度是否足夠快，我想作為台灣人來說都是不客觀的，還是得看東南亞朋友是怎麼想的 --> 同意 我覺得你點出一個非常有趣的議題 -> 在東亞也很常見對於高加索人種的「positive discrimination」

嗨 Yu! 看完你打的留言大部分我都蠻認同的☀️ 不是故意讓大家覺得很悲觀，我也真心很喜歡在台生活所以才會繼續留下來，但每個國家當然是不完美的，相對來說印尼也是會有像你指的 positive discrimination，我也認為歧視這件事是每個地方都會有的issue。這是需要很多的時間和awareness去改善的，我也不敢保證我可以做得到，但大家都是在努力的慢慢去做改善💪🏼 在影片提到的只是最常遇到的刻板印象，我想如果真的要講出來的話是可以很多的，尤其如果去問其他的東南亞朋友。但我瞭解很多人的出發心是單純好奇心，所以我也不會真的往心裡想甚至罵人家😅 大家都是一起學習，希望大家可以多多包容彼此，也學會尊重☀️🤍 謝謝你的分享☺️☀️

@@ivana_tania 當年台北捷運要加入日語播放時，我就有說爲什麽不加入印尼語，因爲印尼是在台最大移工群體，爲什麽不照顧他們給他們方便？還有臺北車站的坐在地上黑白方格，也是印尼移工帶來的文化，原本疫情臺北車站想把它根除，我很高興有人為他們發聲把這文化保留下來。

@@ivana_tania Ivana是棉蘭人吧？是福建、客家、廣府還是潮州人呢？Btw, wa jg org Mdn...wkkkk

不能以偏概全吧，在我们大陆已经对于高加索人的态度开始慢慢转向为讨厌了，大家一开始就会不怀好意的推测这是不是什么白人loser, 对待黑人的态度更是恶劣，很多描述他们的话基本上在RU-vid都发不出来，而且凡是在互联网说混血人种有优势的言论都会被抨击，这可能跟民族主义思潮阶段性的涌现有关，不过对待高素质人群大家又会网开一面不再谈及肤色，另外在大陆的自媒体上面，因为台湾需要美军的保护，所以被描述为白人的附庸，就是男人以娶白人女孩为荣，女生都对白人投怀送抱，很多黑人可以轻易娶到台湾女生，而在大陆现在因为舆论的影响，只要跟黑人有关，不管是娶黑人还是嫁黑人，无疑例外全部是谩骂，很多人骨子里面都是看不起的，我们基本没什么反对种族歧视这种政治正确的观念，按照欧洲美国的标准，很多人在互联网的言论都应该被关照了，我们的政治正确是国家统一以及56个民族团结一致，情况大概就是这个样子。

Indonesia adalah bahasa kedua yg dipelajari setiap orang Indonesia, ini adalah bahasa yang menyatukan kami semua, tapi bahasa pertama adalah bahasa sesuai suku / bangsa kami sendiri.

碩士頭洗下去就很難再另尋國家了，表面上只有兩年，但除非有足夠的資金...不然一般人很難再去玩甚麼雙碩士或是半途而廢去另一個國家重讀碩士...更不用提她已經來台灣很多年了，去別的國家在語言跟文化上又要重新適應，教育體系也要重新適應，可能不是重讀這麼簡單，實際上花的時間可能會超過預期，一個人的青春有限...大部分人離鄉被竟無非不是學取新知識跟賺錢，兩者還是要平衡。 然後身為台灣人，也必須說台灣的教育體系真的滿...在通才教育做得不錯，有效台灣人均水準，但在高學識領域，台灣的教育不但不吸引外國人，個人覺得對台灣本土的發展也滿有害的...

@@yscai6673 謝謝您表達了我想說的！！當初會在台繼續念碩士因為還在疫情中的時候，所以沒有想很多也先申請碩士🥹 沒想到念到最後兩個學期了很多國外的學校已經回歸實體上課，但碩士已經讀到一半也覺得已經花了一年多，重讀或念雙碩士可能會很浪費錢尤其主要是時間🥲 看著朋友同學們都已經出社會工作但自己還在讀書和靠家裡拿生活費其實默默心裡也覺得很自責。 謝謝你幫我描述了我所想表達的！很多人留言說怎麼不去國外再讀但沒有考慮到其他人感受😅 說說本來就很簡單，但要考慮的因素很多🥲 謝謝你☀️☀️☀️

Jay訪問的這位，來自波多黎各的留學生就蠻酷的👍 來研究臺語的 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-keBVP-ThIFc.html

Glad you like. Yes I do want to interview Thai in Taiwan. You will see it soon

I love to see the interviews to the Thais in Taiwan. One thing I notice actually is that there are significant number of people out there even seem hard to distinguish between Thailand and Taiwan as nations and sometimes they mix them up, lol.

@@sino-tibeto-myanmar Yes haha, but not prevalent in Taiwan. I just know that there's a lot of Thais studying and holidaying in Taiwan and I plan to go once I get some more money saved.

台灣的大學應該是說學分太好拿，不用花太多力氣就可以畢業，如果每科都需要花大量時間學習才能拿到學分，那就不會有學習不到的問題

I believe She's Chinese- Indonesian, i have friend same as her, they have the same accent

absolutely, she is Chinese Indonesian as we can see that in the beginning of video. I have several Chinese Indonesian friends as well. Most of them have sick local accents however, Ivana does not.

Hey Yen! I appreciate your kind comments a lot!!🥹 Yes i do speak more Hokkien back at home which resulting in my very rusty indonesian🥲 but I’m currently working on it too 💪🏼 My english is still not as great but it’s all (mainly) thanks to watching lots of RU-vid videos and English songs haha 😂🫶🏼

@@ivana_tania very cool, since you speak Hokkien, it helps you settle in Taiwan more or less. By the way, I like the way you rolled in the interview :)

Not best indeed, but National Taiwan University is one of the top universities in Asia Pacific that is quite amazing to me, which such thing are dominated by Japan & South Korea usually.

@@sino-tibeto-myanmar 沒有啊，我看了2023年QS排行榜，前40都是大陸、新加坡、香港佔的多，日本和韓國也有、但臺灣都幾百名開外了。

I think Taiwan has taken different approach to tertiary education, but that doesn‘t mean its bad.😁 With only 23 million people and the ability to build warships, Fighter Jets and missiles and defend Taiwan on its own. I don‘t think Taiwanese are weak. And with ability to produce an army of engineers to produced the best semi-conductor in the world. Taiwanese education can not be that bad. And Yes, I am a Taiwanese.

Nope, it’s to do with our (mainly media) exposure. We are exposed to American shows and music very early on here. Often even more than our own media. Even those who study at a British or Australian international school here rarely/never develop those accents unless they’re purposefully trying. The teachers they employ aren’t strictly from the commonwealth. Our alphabet is inherited from the Dutch alphabet. Which is similar to the English alphabet, but different. This is all middle upper and upper class Indonesian in general and not limited to/influenced by ethnic background more than it is social class. I have to say this too now that I’ve brought up social class and since it’s a stereotype; not all Chinese Indonesians are rich, nor are all rich Indonesians of Chinese descent. There are many wealthy non-Chinese Indonesians, especially of political background. What ethnic background may do is influence overseas destinations for study, work, or vacation. Resulting in skewed exposure of specific Indonesian demographics. For example, sometimes Chinese Indonesians might pick up a Singapore-esque accent due from exposure (Singaporean friends, family, media, education). On the other hand, Indonesians in the Netherlands are much more likely to be of Eurasian and Pribumi (indigenous) descent. Particularly Moluccan and Javanese (particular ethnic groups).

Most of non British people in the world will speak English like American accent.

對阿 Ivana 的中文比我的英文還好 😱

她是"華僑"，你的東南亞同事都是華僑嗎？

原來她是華僑,看來我開頭的一小段沒注意到😂

Indonesia = India 😆 😆

Hey Aya! I completely understand your opinion too! Probably its because I was here for undergrad and all of my lectures and classes were in chinese only so i had to really adapt with the whole language! But I’m happy you’re enjoying your life here!! xx

​​@@ivana_taniayeah i understand, when you say , "most of your Taiwanese friends doesn't speak English"

@@ivana_tania wa pikir2 kl ngomong hokkien wah sih medan lang

My bad 😂 I’m still trying to find the best bgm of video

I will answer this from my perspective as an Indonesian born Chinese. It depends on the location or city where you live. In my place (i live in East Kalimantan), the elders are able to speak Mandarin and some dialects (mostly Cantonese and Hakka). But my generation is only know a little bit Mandarin. For daily, we use Indonesian to communicate. As well for the university.

I'll add that it also depends on the generations and locations too. For people who attended schools until mid 1960s, especially outside the island of Java, they probably still have schools that strictly use putonghua as the main language. But after 1966 Chinese culture was basically banned until the end of Suharto's era. Only after Gus Dur's era in 1999 we finally have the ban lifted and consequently Mandarin class as extracurricular class is no longer illegal. I only started to learn Mandarin formally (just a little bit) at that point. And as for my nephew who was born in the 2000s, his parents could send him to school whose classes were delivered in Mandarin. He spoke better putonghua than me and currently studying for his undergrad in Taiwan 🙂

Adding another perspective as an IBC in Jakarta most Chindos here (and on java island) don’t speak chinese or hokkien. Instead most opt to learn english (same goes for me). And you might notice their name doesn’t sound chinese and thats because Soeharto banned chinese culture during his reign (yeah he f*cked us up real good, gotta give him that) but they sneak in their chinese name right beneath their Indonesian legal name. For example my family legal name is “tenggara” but the real name is Teng. Many esp the older generation are still having PTSD. For example my father said he hates and mocks chinese culture name but when I asked why, he didn’t want to talk about it. But i can see right through his eyes it has nothing to do with hate but more about past trauma.

Hi, im gonna put another perspective from another city i live in. I am born and raised in Pekanbaru (capital city of Riau Province). My parents moved from their hometown, Medan (capital city of Sumatra Utara [North Sumatra] Province) to Pekanbaru few years before i was born. Hence, at home, i usually speak Medan dialect hokkien with my parents although i mix it with indonesian words since im not fluent at it. But Medan hokkien by itself has already borrowed a lot of indonesian words. Medan hokkien is used as lingua franca for medan chinese people despite their own language (such as hakka, teochew, cantonese). I have one friend who was born and raised in Medan of hakka descent and speak fluent hakka language with his family. He also speaks hokkien fluently when communicating with other medan chinese. And somehow he can also speak mandarin since he also learn it at school maybe. Same case with my mom, she speaks cantonese with her father since her grandfather directly sailed from China itself. But she can also speak medan hokkien. Although sadly i can't speak cantonese cause our family only speak hokkien at home. Yes, my father is hokkien descent. Funfact, medan hokkien is different from hokkien in riau although i can understand some words and the context tho. But i heard that there are a lot of varieties in riau hokkien since riau provinces is quite huge cmiiw. At school, obviously i speak indonesian since indonesian is our official language. Even if my classmates in chinese indonesian, i still speak indonesian to them cause i can't understand if they speak their hokkien dialect to me. I can't speak mandarin cause even my family cant speak mandarin and i've never learned it like in a proper way. Which is my goal right now to be able to read and speak mandarin fluently. Wish me luck🥰

Ivana 中英文都很好 是我逼她講英文而已 😬

This is actually a shocker to me. Seriously. I probably get this bias from politic, I always thought that Taiwanese would have better attitude since, you know, they have much more "freedom" and all. Well, I guess it's in our nature to discriminate those who are different to us. Lol

會唸書跟會教書是兩件事

而且一些外語教學連母語者都聽不懂..

台灣教育的問題是，大學以上的高等教育，對那些利用資源自主學習的人才而言，並沒有吸引力... 國外的大學是透過國內的教育與訓練，使他們畢業後取得的證書有所價值，台灣的大學則是透過高中時的入學測驗去決定這大學的價值，一個重視的是學生怎麼畢業，一個是重視學生怎麼入學，差多了，台灣人的巔峰都停留在考入學測驗的時候，一個考上台大的人亂混一通讀六年才畢業PR值在該校只有10也遠遠大於普通大學但很認真的人才，這才是問題，台灣的環境不重視台灣人在大學有怎樣的訓練，只重視他進大學前的成績，比起從頂尖學府畢業，台灣人的環境更重視"考進"頂尖學府。

Good advise 😎

They are not discriminated against, but they are seen as a certain group. There are stereotypes thinking about them by Taiwanese, not discriminated against.

I think you should visit Taiwan first before accuse Taiwanese of been Racist.

in my country it is truly individualistic, in fact we have been neighbors for almost 20 years, we don't know the names of their children, we don't know that their parents have died, when I went on holiday to Bali I was really shocked, here you are required to socialize , I was shocked but finally I knew the benefits of socializing, you will not feel alone whether you are happy or sad, when I was sick in Bali, when I was being cared for, many of my neighbors were local Balinese people who came to visit carrying fruit, believe me this was the sweetest thing I've ever seen. I felt that when I lived in my home country for 20 years, please throw away the stereotypes about Southeast Asia, believe me if you know and know them, they are one of the people with a high level of caring

😎

不是 她上面有說出她遇到的問題

台灣教育的問題是，大學以上的高等教育，對那些利用資源自主學習的人才而言，並沒有吸引力... 國外的大學是透過國內的教育與訓練，使他們畢業後取得的證書有所價值，台灣的大學則是透過高中時的入學測驗去決定這大學的價值，一個重視的是學生怎麼畢業，一個是重視學生怎麼入學，差多了，台灣人的巔峰都停留在考入學測驗的時候，一個考上台大的人亂混一通讀六年才畢業PR值在該校只有10也遠遠大於普通大學但很認真的人才，這才是問題，台灣的環境不重視台灣人在大學有怎樣的訓練，只重視他進大學前的成績，比起從頂尖學府畢業，台灣人的環境更重視"考進"頂尖學府。 台灣的大學教育環境說白了，大部分就是普通高中披著大學皮而已，許多頂尖學校的價值只有考進去的學生資質不錯這點而已，教育水準方面倒是....跟國際有滿大落差的。

Ivana ialah Hitachi dan nampak nya Taiwan sangat banyak menerima Hitachi asal Asia tenggara😀👍

不過我覺得經濟能力不是本次訪問的重點😅

Thank you 🙏

Jadi tidak ada Pribumi yang rasis ke Chindo?

@@danganrompa2626 baca baik2

Sekarang harusnya udh gk boleh rasis lagi, soalnya Sama-Sama WNI 🙂 Toh, Harto Juga udh gk ada. Jadi gk ada alasan lagi Tapi Rasisnya Orang Indonesia itu pindahnya Ke Asia Selatan ( Prindavan cs) 🤭

Yes, always Japan

Agreed

Gak jelas kau

I guess u are living in 90s right?

There is no such situation in 2024, but discrimination exists

對阿 只是我強迫她跟我講英文 😆

Technically, we can't recognize Indonesian English accents? Because at school, teachers always use English with a British or USA accent 🙂

Most of non British in the world speak English in American Accent.

@@Madpett Malaysian and Singaporean use British accent (mixed with Chinese & Malay)

Ivana is great !

不客氣 希望你喜歡這集的影片

謝謝你分享這些小部分的歷史給大家👍🏼 用手吃飯都是我們印尼的其中一個文化，無論階級，不管是總統，偶爾還是會用手吃飯因為就是我們國家的其中一個文化習俗☀️

Ivana 是學校+自學的,沒有在歐美留學過.

謝謝Steven!🥹☀️ 英文自己覺得還是不夠好但一樣一直繼續學習💪🏼 英文大部分都是看youtube影片還有從國小聽流行音樂歌學的！哈哈哈哈

Di setiap sekolah di indonesia ada pelajaran bahasa inggris tapi tidak banyak orang indonesia minat belajar bahasa inggris

@@donybrekers Pengajarannya juga belum tentu bagus. 印尼學校之間的質量有非常大的差異

tamatan sutomo kayaknya

95%的汉族人口有绝对优势，所以台湾算不上多元。

其他國家很貴，又成績.專業.特殊榮譽都要夠資格才能申請，沒實力的就留在台灣的爛私校囉～