These are so much better than the Groms. They almost bridge the gap between tiny bike and full size. Seems just a little bigger. The engine is a whole different beast too. 4 valves with an aggressive cam and a short stroke is a far cry from Honda's little 2 valve engine. This thing feels like a 125 dirt bike, while the Grom engine feels like a scooter. Just my opinion though!
Hi and thanks for all your vids on the TNT135. I got mine in green a few months ago and found your vids really helpful. Mine also came with the pipwerx midpipe and it was LOUD. After much fiddling I've managed to get it much quieter, almost stock level I'd say. Involved adding a generic baffle pre-tail pipe and 2 removable db killers at twin outlet. I've had a grom and z125 previously and totally agree with you re: the grom. SO much aftermarket stuff, z125 is good too. The TNT is certainly not as big aftermarket, but parts can be found. The TNT drivetrain, compared to stock grom and Z125 is better imo. The engine is much more eager to rev out and feels way less stressed out doing so, the clutch bite is stronger and the gearbox is a peach. Stock oil cooler is a big win in my books (it gets HOT here in summer in Australia). But all in all these bikes are FUN FUN FUN whichever one you get. Thank you again for the content and all the best for your channel.
I posted this as a reply below but it should be seen by those wondering about actual top speed. I weigh 140 pounds. Guys, I have 2 2022 TNT 135's. With GPS and speedo corrected I assure you that at 10K rpm you will be hitting the rev limiter and going 60 to 61 mph with the stock sprockets. With a 16 tooth countershaft neither will pull redline and top speed is actually less due to this. I have the PipeWerx on both. The info to correct the speedo is easy to find and every real phone has a gps and because of this I find it amusing so many people think it can go 70 mph. Nope, not even close.....unless maybe the rev limiter is broken and somehow magically it can pull more than 10K! Good video. Ed
I’ve had my Benelli 135 for a year and 3 months and let me tell you! I’m so glad I chose it over the grom! For one, it’s been so reliable so far. The only issue I’ve had is change the battery (I use it a lot). I live in a place with quite bad roads and yet it’s been really sturdy. It’s turned HEADS EVERYWHERE I GO! I love my Benelli. Go for it!
Its a chinese bike but Benneli is in charge of quality control at the factory so its not going to be junk. The best thing about it over the Grom is that you do not need an oil return mod for wheelies.
Ironically I've been researching mini moto's to carry on my van for scooting about when I don't have to drive the van-my home. And lo and behold you're riding right by where I was parking when I was in SD. Thanks for the great video and review!
Great update. I'm coming up on a year with mine, looking forward to getting it back with the (hopefully) final round of warranty repairs complete soon. The only mod I really want to do with mine is a tail tidy. I wouldn't mind putting on one of the midpipes to clean up the underside and get a bit more power out of it, but it seems like they are pretty loud.
Thanks for the great video series. Got my TNT135 a couple of months ago and was inspired to get the Core cables. Will do a bunch of mods as well but in a slightly different direction....
I'm thinking of buying a 2022. However er I just cant live with that fugly assemble ly wrapping the rear tire. Can I just take all that stuff off and tie wrap the plate to the rear tail light or is there more top it than just removing it? Thanks for the great video bros !
You can remove that ugly wheel fender. There is a wire there for the license plate light. I just bought a mount for the license plate which cost $30 and it goes right behind your tail light. Also came with new license plate light as well.
When I was racing an FZ600 in 1987 I had a YSR50 2stroke pit bike that was smallest street legal bike of the day. Mine was fitted with a D&D expansion chamber and 22MM Mikunis up from 16 MM and K&N filter and counter sprocket change. Out the box the bike did 50 MPH with a five speed. After my mods the bike did 60 MPH and I would actually pass people on 600's in the tight canyons.
Thanks for the video--I've had my THT135 for about a year now and have enjoyed it. I chose it over the Grom and the Kawasaki Z125 mainly for its size--the other two bikes were just a little too small to be comfortable for me. And the extra power is nice too. The bike has been trouble-free. It's a lot of fun and surprisingly comfortable for its size. The only disappointment is that it won't reach the advertised top speed of 70 mph. It will do an indicated 70 mph, but the speedometer as it comes from the factory reads about 5 mph high. So the true top speed is more like 65.
Yeah I agree with you on the size compared to the grom and z125. I'm also feeling like my grom actually has more top speed than the benelli, might be putting together a grom v benelli top speed run video soon!
I have one for already 3years with no major problems, just the Lambda sensor that broke so it slowed down the RPM of the bike and also the fuel sensor that broke out too so I changed it for 20$ piece from benelli. Cheap pieces and reliable
Great video. I've had my TNT 135 since early October and still loving it. As you stated, good quality bikes. The only issue I had with mine was the gear shift linkage bolt into the foot peg backed out on me. Simple work arounds. Other than that, this has been a great bike.
I am really thinking of buying one of these bikes. It looks so much fun. But I don't know if the 11 horse Power will be enough. Would love to hear some opinions.
@lexdfox he owes 3100 left on the loan. Is it worth it in pa if I take over the leans? I think he's paying like 90 a month. I live in the country and was gonna use to go fishing and and shit like that
Just got my first mini moto. 2021 benelli tnt 135, 600 miles.. just put the chimera resonator delete pipe and chimera intake, tidy tail. I love this lil thing
I have 22 abs grom (really 21 build) and I’m actually thinking of the benelli but now it’s 125 and weird braking (I don’t try stunts so not deal breaker). If I can do over a 100kmh then bye bye grom
I really want to see this bike pickup more aftermarket support as well as specifically power upgrades. we currently just have bolt ons, a standalone ecu and a 155 bbk.
Good update ... im an ex grom owner and im picking up a new 2020 leftover 135 in red .. current bikes are a DR 650 ... Tiger 800 and an 04 1200 sportster .. gonna use it as a run around bike ... i might also trailer it down to this years Smokey mountain small bore rally in june
The Honda Grom and Z125 are all Chinese/Taiwan made too. So it’s really a wash in that regard. None of them are Chinese parts they’re just made in China.
No dealership in my area will work on this bike Spend the extra $400 there’s Honda shops everywhere that you can take your bike to get fixed if you buy this bike and you can’t fix it yourself you’re done
we got both the 125 and 135 in the eu, the 125 is a lot more popular though as you can drive it without a license so 95%+ of them will be a 125cc for those without a license and just learning to drive a motorbike.
GOOD REVIEW BUTIN ALL REALITY HONDA HAS A REPUTATION THAT SHOULD NOT BE OVERLOOKED AND THE RELIABILITY OF A HONDA THE ACCESS TO PARTS IS WORTTH THE EXTRA MONEY IMO
I'm currently in Oregon and noticed you were riding on University , I'm from San Diego and recognized the streets , thanks for the Video I'm planning on buying this mini if I can find one up here .
I agree with a lot of your assessments. I bought s white one and it’s been a blast. Sometimes, I slide back on the seat and use the passenger foot pegs just the to stretch out. Makes it feel almost like a bigger bikes seating position. Not sure if it looks ridiculous or not but whatever.
how big is the fuel tank?? what about fuel consumption? thinking of getting one for fun and because fuel prices has been going up like crazy. i saw an ad for a 2019 model in my country for around US $1600. do you think it's worth a try?
Fuel tank is just under 2 gallons, fuel economy is not as good as the groms 100mpg but still really good, I get about 75mpg. For 1600 thats a steal! Definitely worth a try.
I bought the 125 a year ago to go to work with. Those benelli’s are realy fun, i realy like them, their very good. Theres only 1 downside, the stock tires that comes with it, theyre very bad. I suggest changing those for “Michelin city grip” or other tires. Those stock tires are dangerous when ur driving when its raining. Here in belgium it cost about 120€ for those michelin tires, but they can save ur life, so its worth it in my opinion. I had a crash with it while it was raining, crossing tram rails. Since i bought other tires, never had any issues with it. Anyway, very good and fun bikes. Dont get me wrong, im not promoting michelin tires here hehe. After my crash i did some research on google and youtube and many people were suggesting those tires, so i bought those. Have a nice day and safe drive
Im inbetween this or the mt03. I know its a huge difference between the two in terms of power…im a new rider and want to get a bike because gas for my truck has been too expensive 😅. I travel 60 miles a day (work and back) would it be torture to ride the benelli that long?
How is the dealer support compare on this to the Honda and Kawasaki? Also are you aware that the pier to weight ratio of the Grom is better than the tnt? Hp/lb for the Grom 0.043, tnt 0.04. Z125 0.037.
@lexdfox none so far I've seen some people have problems or aso couple examples of catastrophic failure but I've seen it in a handful of groms too especially the new 2022
Yo. About to pull trigger on a benelli tnt 135. I want to do exhaust, intake and ecu flash as well as rear shock. I'm struggling to find ohlin or other brand rear shock and also can't find that Facebook dude to do that ecu flash. Any suggestions on where to grab rear shock AND get in touch with someone that can ecu flash? Thanks!
They say you're not enthusiastic enough?! What the fuck do they want from you? Do they want you to start making moaning sounds while licking your gloves? Fucking RU-vid commenters are sick!
Love the video. I've been going back and forth with this one and a Grom. Because of this video I'm leaning towards getting one of these versus getting a used Grom. I'm not one to modify much. What's your opinion on what I'm thinking?
I think you have a good game plan! The TNT's current downfall is really aftermarket parts availability, but if you're not looking to modify then I think the Benelli is for you!
Sorry to bust your balls but the new 2023 Grom blows this out the water the new Grom has the same top speed of 70 mph has the five-speed transmission for the new 2023 Grom but not only does it have the same top speed but it also gets 166 mi to the gallon as to where this bike only gets a hundred miles to the gallon so sorry to say this bike is not the Grom killer the Grom has stepped up its game for 2023 with a new version of the 125 with a better engine that has same amount of horsepower better torque better top speed than it's predecessor and blows this bike out of the water with its 166 miles to the gallon
No worries, bust them balls! Everything comes at a cost, grom costs more so you get more in some aspects. I think it's a worthy competitor and worth consideration. I even said in the video all things considered I'd pick my grom over my benelli. Thanks for watching!
1000 miles is the break in period for the engine, dont talk about reliability noob@@lexdfox check back after 10,000 miles if you want to review the reliability...
@@lexdfox I lived there for 10 years on coronado Island . I moved back to Hawaii though . I'm thinking about getting the benelli but your comment about the fit and finish i think ill get the Honda . I might just get the cb500. i haven't decided . Not allot to chose from here and prices are much higher as msrp goes. ride safe
So far its been just as reliable as the grom. Granted it's only been a year or so, but I know people that have had their benelli for years and thousands of miles without issue.
@@lexdfox which one is fast? I mean top speed faster? Your Modified TNT135 or your Modified Grom? I’ve previously owned a 2019 Grom & sold it after 2-weeks due to how slow it was. It almost felt broken it was so slow (53-55mph) I’d really like to buy the Benelli this summer as a 3rd. Bike in my garage. But man it’s gotta be/feel a good bit faster than a Grom?
@@exotics4life618 Top speed I would assume the benelli, because I've done basically the same engine mods at this point to both and the benelli has more displacement. Kinda surprised at myself for not having done top speed runs on either of these! Might have to do that...
@@lexdfox thanks for taking the time to respond. I believe the benelli with stock gearing 5th gear rev limiter shows 74-75mph indicated. I have not seen Anyone using GPS run there benelli to 5th. Gear limiter yet. I would be VERY excited to watch that video.
@@exotics4life618 Guys, I have 2 2022 TNT 135's. With GPS and speedo corrected I assure you that at 10K rpm you will be hitting the rev limiter and going 60 to 61 mph with the stock sprockets. With a 16 tooth countershaft neither will pull redline and top speed is actually less due to this. I have the PipeWerx on both. The info to correct the speedo is easy to find and every real phone has a gps and because of this I find it amusing so many people think it can go 70 mph. Nope, not even close.....unless maybe the rev limiter is broken and somehow magically it can pull more than 10K! Good video.
Hey man, I’ve been watching alot of your videos, particularly the Benelli TNT 135 videos. I am leaning towards the TNT over the Grom. I know at the end if this video you said if you had to choose one it would be the Grom but more so because the sentimental value and its the OG. On paper the TNT seems to have more going for it: personally I think it looks way cooler, 10cc more, 5 speed (well up until Grom 2022), dual spark, 4 valve, lower cost, and I prefer the analog tach. But on the Grom side: Honda reliability, quality, lower weight, resale value due to being well known, ABS option, and aftermarket support (not a big deal to me because I just want to put an intake on it, which the TNT does have available). Just wanted to see if you had any final inputs on TNT vs Grom as a first bike. I just want a fun mini bike to commute to work on back roads, not interested in a full size bike. Thanks for your videos!
Sounds like the benelli is right up your alley. The benelli has yet better stock stats and there's not much aftermarket support but since that's not a priority for you I say benelli all the way! I'll note I've heard of some other small issues with benellis like bolts that won't stay but easily fixable.
