Thanks to the archivist for posting these wonderful, warm and intelligent episodes. This is the day I was born! I was born in the evening but I'm fairly sure they weren't watching WML. According to family fiction, they were watching Bonanza when Mom went into labor. According to Wikipedia, Bonanza was on Saturday nights and I was born on a Sunday. So much for family fiction.
@@loissimmons6558: Absolutely, and that's not all that long. If she went into labor at, say, 8 pm on a Saturday, it's likely the baby would be born on Sunday.
If I'm not mistaken a big part of the joke was that Art Carney had done a spoof of "What's my line" just two days earlier on his own show ! It's ALSO here on RU-vid
I went the opposite direction - I saw the spoof and felt the need to track down this episode following the parody. Anyone who didn't see it would wonder what they were up to with the exaggerated conference.
Never thought Joan was a looker, but at that age WOW! Can anyone imagine jumping on sticks in mud for any distance? Art did the best John Daly imitation I've seen. Carney was a man about town, married three times to two women: Jean Myers, from 1940 to 1965, and again from 1980 until his death in 2003, and to Barbara Isaac from December 21, 1966 until 1977.
If you want to see Art Carney's full John Charles Daly impression and the spoofs of the other panelists that Bennett, John and Art were all talking about, check out Gary's most recent post at: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_5YyAjryAt8.html. It's hilarious, and it also kind of explains some of the other shtick that Art was doing with John during their conference in this episode! ;)
@@HariSeldon913 WHA? guh wha huh ...hmmm.. im looking it up! really? wha...you serious? "ill be back" momentarily back bennet cerf had an affair with joan collins????? wha?
Francis Knight improved service by reducing the time to get a passport from 2-3 weeks to a few days. Can she take the job again? 60 years later one is lucky to get one in a month!
Mr Hansburg's pogo stick origin story seemed fanciful to me, so I looked it up. Wikipedia quotes Hansburg's story but quotes Hansburg as the source. More than likely, the name came from the first 2 letters of the names Pohlig and Gottschall, two Germans who patented a pogo stick in Germany in 1920. The pogo stick is actually older than Mr Hansburg, but his contribution was that he patented the first 2-handle pogo stick.
When Bennett welcomed Joan Collins and said that the panel was getting prettier every week, at 1:41, Martin Gable clearly didn’t like the comment, since it was his wife Arlene Francis who was missing. I wonder what Martin said to Bennett after the show.
The Carney segment is especially funny after one watches the spoof from his special which had aired two days previously. Note how Daly cracks up. :ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_5YyAjryAt8.html
I love how when every contestant tries to say explain where they're from, he or she explains another place that the panel (or Bennett in this case) has never heard of.
Even Joan Collins looked uncomfortable when she saw Gabel's reaction to Cerf's clumsy and tasteless comment about the panel getting "prettier every week."
Wonder if there was any hell to pay from Kilgallen, Gabel or Francis after Bennett Cerf made the remark about Joan Collins how " the place is getting prettier every week "
I ❤ how Dorothy looks over to the studio audience when they start laughing out loud. Interesting story behind the pogo stick, it would have been nice if pogo and her family could have been compensated
Martin makes the insightful comment that Art Carney had a terrific agent in Bill McCaffery. In 1959 Art Carney had made no movies and only one Broadway performance. Later he played Felix Unger in the original "The Odd Couple" on Broadway. Carney's career then took a dive, largely due to his alcoholism, but he stayed with McCaffery, who in the 1970's argued with Carney that he, although 54, should make his film debut as a 72 year old man in "Harry and Tonto." Carney ultimately was persuaded and won the Best Actor Oscar, defeating Albert Finney, Jack Nicholson, Dustin Hoffman, and Al Pacino. That opened a new line for Carney in later middle age in film.
Art was at least 56 after his Sep 1974 birthday, not 54. He lived to be 85, Sep. 2003. The world misses superb actors and gentlemen as Art Carney demonstrated!
Was there ever a better sidekick than Carney's Ed Norton to Gleason's Ralph Kramden? Carney was so good, Gleason credited him with 90% of the success of "The Honeymooners". He was much more than a second banana. And to me, Joan Collins will always be remembered most as Edith Keeler from "Star Trek" (TOS). It was a meaty and unglamorous role, and one which gives me much pause for thought about idealism versus pragmatism and unintended consequences.
"The City on the Edge of Forever" is regarded by most fans and critics as the best episode in the entire Star Trek franchise. Poor Edith Keeler. "He knows, doctor... He knows..."
There is a tendency in human nature to be overconfident in one's abilities. Martin asks the MG the first question, and based on the answer, he says at 17:35, "I know who it is already." Then he asks in later rounds whether the MG was on TV earlier that night, to which the answer was no, and whether he had appeared with his wife, to which the answer was also no. It is a fair conclusion that he did not know who the MG was, already, or even later on.
WOW, Martin Gabel was pissed at Bennett. He wouldn't e even bid Joan Collins good night after what Bennett said in the opening greetings about the panel.
I don't think Martin intended to "snub" Joan. The week prior, Martin had said goodnight to Arlene to camera, and then said goodnight to the guest panelist after. Joan jumped the gun and started talking before Martin was able to say anything else, as she had done a couple of other times throughout the evening.
You guys need to get a brain! I'm serious! I saw the intro and Bennett said absolutely NOTHING that was wrong. Pretty ladies DO make the panel "prettier." And it's pretty obvious you're all reading too much into this, cause Martin has absolutely NOTHING to be upset about.... I just can't believe your comment (and the above comment) got so many "likes" lol
Yeah and he always said stuff like "Oh we haven't had such a pretty face one the panel or show in so long" and I'm always like dude you realize that two main women on the show you could never dream of being with right ( and I don't mean to be rude to Phyllis who if she wanted to could have done better). But I do love Bennett (Sometimes).
@@kristabrewer9363: And I can't believe that YOU are telling others to "get a brain." Bennett practically stated that Joan Collins was prettier than Arlene Francis. It was totally rude.
*_Director of the United States Passport Office_* *_Inventor and Manufacturer of Pogo Sticks_* The first contestant looked similar to the character actress Amzie Strickland.
Mr. Art Carney was a real man! There was something in him that strikes a chord with me. I remember during one academy award show, Lucile Ball was having trouble reading the award cards and asked “would one of you boys come up and help me with this? I'm not joking.”. Both Mr. Art Carney, and Milton Burl, started up the stage. Burl reached Miss Ball first, and as Mr. Carney was turning to leave, Burl snarled at him and yelled “get off the stage” as if Mr. Carney was some bum from the audience. Mr. Carney spun around and was heading toward Burl, but then I guess he thought better of it and went back to his seat. I’m not sure, but Miss Ball may have said something like “now, boys don’t fight”, in a motherly tone. (Too bad Mr. Carney didn’t rip Burl’s fucking head off.) Those few seconds of the show revealed who these people really were. Mr. Carney was a real flesh and blood and sweat and tears man.
Bennett Cerf often showed himself to not be a very nice person. I heard one interview where he insinuated that the doctor who invented Stopette was a phony and another interview where he referred to Dorothy’s column as “disgusting.” To state that the panel wasn’t smart but got prettier in Arlene’s absence seems pretty typical of his behavior.
You should read the interviews he gives after Dorothy's death, he might as well as hung a sign saying "F*CK you" to her. He made her sound as though as she was nothing but a women out to get people.
@@syd8802 You're absolutely right. He was one of those fake modest guys, a total phony. He dumped on Dorothy Kilgallen in a contemptible manner. He also implied that Daly couldn't stand her.
I love the panel, but I felt really sorry for Joan Collins, Gabel didn't even say goodbye to her he said goodbye to Arlene and so did Bennet?? Bit rude of them both.
Art Carney, like Red Skelton, was a much lauded comedian who never once excited even an ounce of amusement in me. I'm Australian so perhaps it's a cultural thing.
@@Baskerville22 Someone once told me that to enjoy a comic personality on film or TV, one has to appreciate/understand/feel sympathetic to the comic world they inhabit. My love of W.C. Fields is, aside from his inherent talent, my appreciation of a comic man battling the unkind world that harasses him. Chaplin was rooted in a basically Victorian aesthetic (tho' it's hard to think you don't find at least parts of The Great Dictator funny), and A&C were essentially burlesque house comics. L&H were timeless clowns who I love too. But thank heaven we have all such to choose from for laughter in our too troubled lives!
Geeze talk about foot and mouth disease. And then Mr Gable in a Soto voice says to Dorothy, "I don't know about that." And Dorthy giggles. Who knew that Joan Collins was such a good looking woman in her day.
Joan Collins was quite the looker. And Bennett Cert was a narcissistic clod. Didn't he have a so-called literary "school" that bilked hard-earned money from unsuspecting victims?
bennett does put his foot in his mouth on more than one occasion, but this time seemed more idiotic than most. his constant remarks about women's looks does get to be rather annoying after a while, but then again, it is probably not fair to view his sexism through today's eye.
Bennett Cerf always creeps me out the way he talks about women's "fabulous chassis" and "miraculous figure' and a host of other things. He's so dreadfully sexist and mysoginistic. You can actually see him drooling down his chin at times. It's creepy.
WOW! you guys are insane! I saw the introduction, and Bennett said absolutely NOTHING wrong! Since when is it a crime to say that the panel is getting prettier?! By the way, Bennett's awesome!!
@@kristabrewer9363 The obvious corollary to the statement that the panel is getting prettier when there is a group of regulars and someone else joins is that the new panelist is prettier than the people Bennett has spent the last 9 years of Sundays with. That is even if unintentionally disrespectful to the regular panelists. How would Bennett feel if he had been on vacation, a good looking male panelist had appeared, and Dorothy had said the panel was getting more handsome?
@@kristabrewer9363 Bennett Cerf IMO was an elitist, self-important clod who took pot shots at people who could no longer defend themselves i.e. Dorothy. Ever see a picture of Bennett Cerf wearing shorts? I have, and his legs were as skinny as a bird's. Maybe that fueled his attitude towards people.
Bennett Cerf is my least favorite of the long-time What's My Line panelists. How tactless of him to rave about Ms. Collins' looks in the manner that he did, with Martin Gabel nearby. Martin mutters something to Dorothy, don't know what. Joan Collins was indeed quite beautiful...too bad in recent years she has become something of a parody of her former self, dangerously veering into Mae West/Sextette territory.
Chiedu Egbuniwe & hcombs0104 & Galileocan g & Brian Loria I love Bennett, but this is the kind of tactless remark he had a habit of making that makes me cringe. In trying to compliment Joan Collins, he backhandedly insulted both Paulette Goddard and Arlene Francis! We all know that he thought the world of Arlene and her beauty, and he clearly admired Miss Goddard the previous week, so I'm sure the slight was not intentional. Still -- talk about putting his foot in his mouth! (Gallileocan g, kudos to you for your much more clever way of putting it!)
Interesting that in the end Martin Gabel says "good night Arlene" instead of saying good night to Joan Collins although it wasn't her fault that Bennett made the slight. You wonder if Bennett ever realized what an idiotic comment he made.
Exactly WHY was Bennet an idiot in the introductions? I didn't hear him say ANYTHING wrong! At least 3 people on here said how he was tired of his cracks about women (or things of that nature). Since when is it a crime to say the panel was getting prettier?!
Because it sounds like Joan Collins is more beautiful than Arlene. Which is unfair towards Arlene as she is one of the leading ladies on the panel for 10 years (up to this episode) and also Arlene's husband is on the panel. You can hear Martin says: "Oh, I don't know", which clearly shows that he is irritated. And also he didn't say "good night" to Joan at the end which he will never do otherwise.
What Bennet said was insulting to the two permanent female panel members, and one of those women's husbands was sitting 2 chairs down. Certainly Bennet merely meant to pay Joan Collins a compliment, but he did so at the other 2 ladies' expense.
I went mid video to go see what art was talking about and it was worth it! So thanks for posting that as well ❤ I didn't see when I went to go look for it, the cast of what's my line on I've got a secret tho 😢
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