MYSTERY GUEST: June Taylor [leader of a dance troupe featured on the Jackie Gleason Show]; William Holden [film actor] PANEL: Dorothy Kilgallen, Robert Q. Lewis, Arlene Francis, Bennett Cerf
@@rickrick5041 You are right but remember also no one could have predicted that ANYONE would want to see these TV shows and movies 50 years later. Who knew home video, cable, etc., would be around?
History would irrevocably change for the Suez canal pilot and for all the Mideast and the Western World when about 5 weeks after this episode aired, England, France and Israel launched a surprise attack on Egypt to take back the Suez Canal by force. The invasion was a military success, but it was a political/public opinion disaster for everyone but Egypt and Russia.
I got to know William Holden's son West when I lived near Palm Springs. His natural speaking voice was almost identical to his father's (but I don't think he really resembled him physically). West was a talented actor in his own right but he had no aspirations to be a "star" or work in Hollywood. Instead, he worked in local theater, where he was apparently very successful. Just a bit of trivia, admittedly off-topic.
William Holden guest starred in one of the funniest ever episodes of "I Love Lucy". It was season 4, episode 16, and aired February 7, 1955. The fun begins when Lucy and Ethel go to lunch at the Brown Derby and find Holden eating at the booth next to theirs. I won't add any spoilers for those who haven't seen the episode. I'll just highly recommend it to anyone who is a fan of both Lucy and Bill Holden.
😊 As a teenager, my late mother irritated me untold times by calling him 'my' boyfriend every time his films came on TV, how did she know about my secret crush on William Holden? Turns out that we had known him in Kenya where he was heavily involved in wildlife when I was a small child and yes, I adored him then, used to sit on his lap and he did indeed propose, said he would marry me when I grew up 😊 I cannot tell you watching him and his films, aahhh how many times that I have wished that I had been 25 and not 5 then 😊😊😊😊😊
Former president William Holden on what's my line. Amazing. Who knew he was so spontaneously funny? Another moment or two and they would have been in the aisles wearing lampshades. Poor in spirit lovely man, and by pouring spirit I mean humble I don't mean it was lacking I think he had a lot of love and he loved animals and he loved his significant others and he loved his work. I thought he was just dandy in The Omen too, I would have liked to seen him as the rod steigerwald in the heat of the night if rod steiger hadn't been available but you can't really improve much on staggering that movie well actually I don't need to think you can improve it at all I am but Holden would have been as equally captivating if not underwhelmingly unsuperior you know what I'm saying but he might have been overpoweringly Superior at the same time you never know he was a hell of a lot sexier even as he got to where he couldn't hide the out the tall the alcohol was taking on his visage. The suave and vulnerable guy you could just see how uncomfortable in his own skinny-dipping gee whiz he was, but he was but he was so f****** hot!
Too bad they often had celebrities with a big New York movie opening right around the time of a show's airing. It only took that one question to often give away a contestant's identity.
Yeah but that was the point of the appearance, most of them didn’t care about the game aspect. Just plugging their latest performance or upcoming show.
The June Taylor dancers were actual dancers as opposed to what we see today with the so-called dancers who really just gyrate around the stage with no clothes on. The June Taylor dancers look so sweet, wholesome, and dignified.
At 17:10, William Holden started to talk about the "star" of his film, the Bell X-2 rocket plane that was being tested at Edwards Air Force Base in California. As Mr. Holden mentioned, on July 23, 1956 the plane was flown at a record speed of Mach 2.87 (1957 miles per hour) by Lieutenant Colonel Frank H. "Pete" Everest. As Holden also mentioned, on September 7, 1956, Captain Iven C. Kincheloe flew the plane to an altitude of 126,200 feet. Kincheloe was nicknamed "America's No. 1 spaceman." Four days after this episode of What's My Line aired, the Bell X-2 program ended in tragedy. On September 27, Captain Milburn G. Apt became the first person to exceed three times the speed of sound (Mach 3.2 to be precise, or 2094 miles per hour). But the plane soon spun out of control and Captain Apt ejected. He was killed before he could open his personal parachute. The Bell X-2 program was then discontinued. Captain Kincheloe himself was killed on July 26, 1958 in a crash of an F104A Straighter. He had been selected as one of three pilots in the X-15 program and if he had survived he might have reached space in the X-15.
People back then were influenced to communicate in a more nicer way because they watched these shows. Just as today they are influenced by the people in the media to act like a holes.
It was called manners. Everybody learned them. I was a little girl when this aired. Good manners, a clearer idea of what was considered polite conversation, good grammar and the like. We were taught all that by our families and in school. Even in Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts, and other clubs and activities. The shows reinforced it but weren’t nearly as influential on people as media is today. TV wasn’t watched for as many hours.
I grew up watching quiz shows like this. You tubers seem to be eating this up; very few thumbs down appear (from what must be real sticks in the mud!) I just wish I had Holden's magnificent speaking voice, much less all the other attributes God blessed him with. Reputedly he was an overall decent man and likeable fellow. His efforts to save the wild animal populations in Africa rather than grab up a rifle and hunt them for trophies in "thrill killings," as so many of his contemporaries in the film industry were wont to do (Cooper, Gable; Robert Taylor; Guy Madison, et al) was commendable. How tragic that he fell victim to the bottle; alcohol destroys more good people than bad ones.
Sadly, he suffered from alcoholism. He had an affair with Audrey Hepburn on the set of “Sabrina,” although he was married with children. He wanted to marry her, but had had a vasectomy, and she refused him because she wanted to have children.
William Holden is my favorite actor of all time. He owned every scene he was ever in. I can only think of two others with that much command: Gregory Peck and Cary Grant.
My grandmother worked at a local drugstore in Fort Lauderdale and told me so many times about William Holden coming in. She claimed she checked him out right down to taking his cash and further said she never washed her hand again.
terrific actor - Sunset Boulevard, Stalag 17, Bridge Over The River Kwai, The Wild Bunch, Network and Sabrina - plus Stephanie Powers as a long time companion, lucky guy -rest In peace Bill
I think he and Stephanie were deeply involved in protecting wildlife somewhere in Africa. Maybe someone else can comment in more detail than that on what they accomplished. So glad they found each other and inspired so many to continue their efforts.
Bill Holden would film an epic movie later starring Alec Guinness, Jack Hawkins, and Sessue Hayakawa along with Mr. Holden. He was a reluctant hero and the film popularized the Colonel Bogey March. It was a very good movie.
Someone who can should take a screenshot of John Daly with the June Taylor girls and post it to the WML Facebook group. This is definitely John's idea of Heaven.
William Holden was of my mothers era but I love his movies. He made a WWII movie that’s never mentioned, THE PROUD and PROFANE with Deborah Kerr. I love it. He was one of first animal rights activist, trying to stop African animal slaughters. He died too soon.
Well, who knows what that relationship was like... he did cheat on her and bring his girlfriends home to her, like Hepburn. Even allegedly dalianced with Jackie Kennedy. 1 second ago
Despite the fact that the show served as a vehicle to advertise movies and plays, it gave us a peek into their peer relationships and is a time capsule, indeed, of worth.
Bennet should have excused himself from the game for knowing the Suez canal pilot. William Holden was an excellent actor, he co starred with Ricky Schroder in The Yearling, a great movie. Watch it if you’ve not seen it.
@@accomplice55Untrue. If they have info about their identity beforehand they need to disqualify themselves. In another show, guest panelist Paul Anka excused himself because he had advanced knowledge of the person b
He did once when Steve Allen was the MG. The panel tried to ignore it and continue play but couldn't. It was too funny because he had always been so careful. Usually the only mistake he might make would be revealing that there were more than one MG and that he would attempt to recover and often did.
He made almost no effort to disguise his voice. I'm old and suspicious of my memory, but didn't he die when he fell in a drunken state and hit his head on a coffee table?
What charm had that man. Brilliant, with a contagious smile. Here was only one year after Pic Nic, with the Marvellous Kim Nowak. One of my favore 50's movies. Great personality, him don't like the Hollywood star system out by the set. The end of his life and premature death is a very sad story, untinkable during his success years. RIP William 😔...
@@melianna999of course it's very difficult find a right answer. But him has not been the only one in the Hollywood world to falling, after his golden era, in the alcoholism or worst. On YT there is his last interview, released just two days before dying (accidentally). Holden appeare there in his S. Monica mansion in a good shape, still full of great personality, smile etc. Simply unthinkable that him was already in a deep depression state..
Well, he was a member of the creative class, as a Designer (of furniture) in Executive Suite, so being a mid-century modern adman wouldn't have been too far removed from that.
Just two months after Egypt did that, and a month before Israel(with French and British support) arrived in the Sinai and sealed the fate of many Western Powers in the crisis.
@@shrillbert Those of us oldsters in the UK, and likely France and Israel too, will never forgive Eisenhower for forcing us to shut it down. Keeping Suez open would have greatly benefited the USA a few years later as well.
I had to laugh when Robert Q. asked if it could be found on the dining room table. Every year at Xmas, mother had a dancing mothballs centrepiece (fishbowl with water, food colouring [red or green, of course], mothballs, vinegar, and baking soda). The mothballs floated up and down - it was fascinating. Therefore, technically, he should have gotten a YES.
I was 14 years (and a bit) old. We had our first t.v. The whole family allways watched WML. Happy memories. I watch it now with more appreciation and pleasure than my 14 year self could. So glad it's here on youtube.
Niamh I guess the woman part is true I was too young to know not even born. I just assume it was not bad for women back then. the others yes I would imagine.
Brooke Hanley I think it wasn't too bad for famous women. But for "normal women"? I think rape was still legal when you were married etc. And the public was extremely judgmental of your choices. Even more so than now. You were expected to be a fragile lily, to be submissive and not joke and live freely like men were allowed to. (Not that men didn't suffer. They were expected to be the strong bread-winners all the time.) I think we live in a better time now. :) But I get why you thought I'd be nice to go back: These shows can be awfully deceiving. We don't see the ugliness of those times.
A lot of "normal women" were happily married. The suggestion they were all expected to be fragile lilies, and not display a sense of humor, is deceptive. Men don't prize a helpless, humorless mate any more than women do.
Two very self-confident girls are very eager to be seen so they push themselves forward just behind June Taylor and John. They both bend down to be in line with the camera during the game. 3:00
Shame on Bennett for not bowing out when he remembered the pilot's name, and odd that when he started to say that he remembered it, John let him continue.
Two of the dancers in the front looked old enough to have been the MOTHERS of some of the other girls. What was John Daly's problem at 8:15 ? He looked annoyed. William Holden was 38 in this episode, but looked a decade older for most of his life.
@@wholeNwon not to mention four panelists (minimum) who could be intelligent, witty, somewhat flirtatious, and classy. Not to mention the issues with guests who could wear full outfits and not dress like they were going to Wal-Mart, be able to hold a conversation without getting offended at innocent remarks, etc.
it is weird to realize these people see each other in better than 4k, while we see them in poor quality silver black and white which has trouble with reproducing the specular highlights of jewelry. they are experiencing in living color.
Arlene's cape reminds me very much of a common practice during this time (into the late 1960's) for many schools: what was given to the girls to wear for their high school yearbook pictures during their senior year so there would be a common look for all the girls. The boys would be required to wear jackets and ties.
