What's My Line? - Peggy Cass; PANEL: Joel Grey, Phyllis Newman (Jul 30, 1967) 

I know this was 8years ago but I totally agree! I absolutely love her wit!!!!

​@@apoliticallevithis was not 8 years ago..... He posted it 8 years ago but this was long before that

I always thought of him as just a song and dance man until I saw him in a very memorable episode of Star Trek Voyager. It should've been an ordinary episode but not with him in it. The writers gave him a lot to do and he ran with it and made it memorable.

It’s 2024 and he’s 92. 🥰

I fully agree. :)

Me too! As I commented elsewhere on this page, she certainly looked pretty enough in this episode and in general for *someone* to have said *something* positive about her appearance to contradict her negative reply to the "beautiful girl" question, and I was disappointed in John and the whole panel for not doing so.

There is a glamorous photo of Peggy on the WML Facebook page. She was beautiful and lovable! :-)

It was Peggy herself that kept saying no to that question; the audience was clapping loudly that she was a beauty.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I loved it when she and Orson Bean would squabble.

preppy socks - Thanks for the list. It's comforting.

Since that time, Joanna Barnes, Harry Belafonte and Betty White have passed.

And Peggy Cass was a mystery guest before, in 1963. She used that same deep voice as a disguise.

Actors in dramas win Oscars over actors in comedies.

Every sauna I have seen have been in a bathroom or a shower room.

soulierinvestments Johan Bengtsson I think that "sauna expert" was in particular thinking of a typical sauna hut or cabin, placed in the yard, which was common in the countryside in Finland that time. But already then, they were built in connection to the bathroom, although *not in* the bathroom itself. (Not very practical).

Lois Simmons - And for no lack of trying.

Her name (Mordle) almost rhymes with "mortal"...

That year was about the weakest Oscar year ever. Wendy Hiller won for "Separate Tables" and there was nothing great in her performance And David Niven won best actor for the same movie -- the shortest on screen time of any Best Oscar winner. Nothing remarkable about his performance. And Peggy Cass couldn't beat a very weak field.

I can’t see how a sauna could possibly be good for one’s heart or blood pressure? ?

+michael iannucci I wouldnt say jerk but he certainly slipped up as a gentleman

+james joyce you're right...'jerk" a little harsh on my part.

Not harsh....saw him do it to Carol Burnett and Joan? Havoc.

As a newsman John would be motivated to maintain credibility

Peggy shook her head no. And the answer served to cloud her identity which is what the game is all about. A better question would have been if she was known for her glamour persona. JCD obviously respects and values Peggy Cass.

Yes, it made me sad to see not only that Peggy described herself as not being beautiful, but that the audience (and John!) ultimately went along with it.

I believe there are no unattractive people, only unattractive attitudes.

What's My Line? Carol Burnett answered similarly on one of her MG appearances, without any correction; another time, I think John Daly DID change the answer to the affirmative. Beauty is only skin deep, of course, but Agnes Gooch is forever! ;)

Todd Brandt Peggy Cass as herself was much more attractive than she was as the Agnes Gooch character, and I thought she looked quite pretty in this episode. I also thought John should have at least said something like, "...well, she may not describe herself as a 'beautiful girl,' but she *is* an attractive woman." And when her identity was revealed, I thought at least Arlene would say something positive about Peggy's appearance. I hope her feelings weren't hurt.

***** And given that this is the last live WML until 3 September, she is the last female mystery guest.

John Wettermark I think they did, and then after, if they wanted to, they could buy the dress for less than the current market price. Several times I've heard Johnny Olson announcing their dresses and the designer/company after the show. Advertising money well spent. ;)

I sure hope to hell Arlene didn't buy that one.

Re the wardrobe: I read that Arlene had a business arrangement with some high-end designer shop, who supplied her with those (usually) beautiful frocks. Great promo!

She had spunk, and unlike Lou Grant, I like spunk. She was also very intelligent.

Oh no!

That dress is possibly the worst mistake she ever made in her life. It is absolutely ugly. She did have better taste than that, didn't she?

I was 19 and my mother was 40 at that time. (She was a fashion consultant for a department store.) I don't recall anything that ugly being in fashion at the time--but I was pretty oblivious to fashion at that time. I'm pretty sure my mother wouldn't have been caught dead in it, however.

Doctor James - You are right. What could have possessed her? I usually love to see what she is wearing.

@Doctor James - This dress is not Arlene's style, but I suspect she did not choose it for the loveliness of the design. On Sundays, when performing, she and her husband visited their son at Deerfield Academy and if this show was taped, which it may have been, during the school term the dress could have been in the school colors for some sort of end-of-term garden party for which one would not wear a cocktail dress or evening gown. My other consideration would be that this was the era of Mary Quant as a designer and Arlene was now age 60. This type of casual, long lawn dress with bold colors possibly would have been as close as a woman of her taste and age would dare come to wearing an actual Mary Quant dress because hers were all quite short, but otherwise sometimes similar. There was a lot of color-blocking and many geometric patterns happening in her work.

Im sure they didn't wear all their own clothes each night for 17 yrs. Would have to have a huge closet.

I think it fits within their usual use of the term on the show (they have described other animals as products many times), but it is interesting that Bennett (and you) after all this time disagree with that.

@@RikardPeterson I found it very odd - they've always referred to animals as products in the show!

They use the word "product" to differentiate it from a service.

However, saunas result in perspire-cacity.

soulierinvestments - Funny!

Mickey Katz

@@LOA1955 My parents knew Mickey Katz and his wife.

Bonwit Teller and Arlene strike again. Look at that collar! The 70s are coming.

TheJMascis666 - Oh, groan, I get it: sticking his neck out.

Bennett certainly has feeble pun competition!

That sounds like a Bennett joke lol. 🦒

Joel Grey's father was the great Yiddish comedian and satirist Mickey Katz.

@gcjerryusc Dirty Dancing.....but she had a nose job after that which was rather drastic.

And former father-in-law of SHIELD's Agent Phil Coulson.

@@stevenginsberg8471 My parents knew him.

A Bonwit Teller number.

Looks more like the bargain rack at Woolworth's. One of the few fashion faux pas that Arlene exhibited.

Except that there is a much wider age differential in the latter case. While Tina Louise was 4 1/2 years older than Dawn Wells, Kitty Carlisle Hart was 13 2/3 years older than Peggy Cass (who was 43 years old when this episode of WML? was videotaped).

Kitty

Not really. They're mostly found in savannahs.

Small things amuse small minds...

Gail SickofYourShit What's up with your mouth? A ballgag would fix it.

Gail Sirois Lord what's up with your crack habit? Yikes! 😬 Put down the pipe!

They all got paid the same. Don’t fret

They would all have got the same these days. The cards were just for form. All game shows have to be seen as doing something for the money.

Why are you the ONLY human being on the planet who gives a rat's ass about that? Get a life!

You're easily annoyed...