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Today we unbox, discuss and drive the 4WD Kyosho Mad Van 1/10 Monster Truck, in all of its retro van life glory.
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@camo9425 4 года назад

“If the vans a rocking don’t bother knocking” What a cool looking rig Brett 😊 !! Love your work Bro 🤙🏼

@zoridor16 Год назад

Hello everyone! As they are? I have there is a brushef version! And I have heard comments that the brushless version is very fragile in terms of diff and crown gears...can anyone give me a review on using the brushed version? From what I can see, they are very fragile. greetings (If I drive the Mad at no more than 21 mph) will I break anything?

@tjenkins1126 4 года назад

I've had mine for a couple of weeks, and it is so stupid fun. It's my first 'go fast' so it's been a learning curve (22-25 mph is a long way from 5-7 with crawlers on the trails). So much fun out on a make shift bmx track. Gets REAL squirrelly on loose dirt over hard pack. Hard to get lined up for those sweet jumps. So much fun though, great stuff man. 🍻👊

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

HA! That's great you've got a little track to play on and catch some air. Bet the Mad Van feels way different to drive compared to rock crawlers; it's so fast and quick, like the rabbit to the turtle. Happy to hear you're enjoying the Mad Van. Have fun on those jumps man. -Brett

@STEVOD313 4 года назад

From what i've seen n heard about this one is its Awesome! I still love my Lunchbox but this might be the new king monster van!

@CmwSpeedrunUk 4 года назад

Absolutely my man

@zoomzoomtoys131 4 года назад

Kyosho repping mental health: Psycho Kruiser, Mad Crusher, Mad Van...

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

HA! Funny. -Brett

@swampcritterisbackbaby1740 3 года назад

@@finleymakee4850 Brushed motors aren't slow, they just require maintenance. Brushed rc cars were doing over 100+mph thirty years ago.

@robertobassi1843 3 года назад

È sempre un piacere osservare i tuoi video davvero ben fatto!esaustivi commenti e spiegazioni chiare in più ottime inquadrature..che dire fai scuola a 360 gradi. Nel video hai usato una batteria lipo?o è così veloce con le Nmho?grazie

@jadenace2936 3 года назад

You all probably dont care but does someone know a method to log back into an instagram account?? I stupidly lost my password. I love any tricks you can give me.

@ashtonjairo2063 3 года назад

@Jaden Ace Instablaster ;)

@sylvainster30 4 года назад

Idk about you but it reminds me of the A TEAM! I pitty the fool! 👋🤪

@KG-qs7rk 4 года назад

Looks like the lunch box went to the GYM

@MAGICFLY02 3 года назад

Had mine for a couple of months now. It’s not super fast, but it’s a super blast to play with.

@mikelashua5132 4 года назад

Just ordered one yesterday can't wait for it to show up

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

Fantastic Mike! Congratulations. Let us know if you need any help. -Brett

@johnnyreb1544 3 года назад

I have a Mad Van coming in on Thursday. Can't wait. 🤘

@lukenukem1164 4 года назад

Cool little rig, could be a contender for my little boys first proper rc. Nice video.👍

@DavidFernandez-sc5ws 4 года назад

Awesome looking RC. I think this is the first RTR I have seen with dog bone axles but plastic center drive shaft.

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

Many people have commented on all the plastic parts, but it's an inexpensive, beginner friendly model at around $200. The plastic may not look as appealing as other materials, but the plastic is a great way to absorb impact energy without breaking parts, so users can crash to a certain degree, and bounce back from it to keep driving. So it's meant to be forgiving to the user. It may not look as impressive but it's certainly better than a broken car. -Brett

@RCAddictsGarage 4 года назад

I don't give many videos likes, but this definitely gets one. That van is super cool 😎🥶😎

@THEMASKEDMASTER 4 года назад

✌🏻😎🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿It’s the A Team Van with monster truck wheels 😂 that’s why the named it the mad van. After one of the characters from the TV show 😂. You are totally right though Brett. It really needs a surfboard and a figure of MR T. I ain’t getting on no plane but I will give a surfboard a shot 😂

@poloskier1967 4 года назад

Lol. Good one.

@THEMASKEDMASTER 4 года назад

poloskier1967 thank you ✌🏻😎🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

@marktomlin1442 3 года назад

Howling Murdoch is the character

@attuti 2 года назад

The most fun r/c I own, True Story.

@michaelstewart3042 4 года назад

Love seeing it run without all the background music really good speed jumps well too

@larrygoldstein3481 4 года назад

A few decades late with the lunchy competition, Kyosho! Cool truck no doubt.

@Backyardwrenching1243 4 года назад

Its the A-Team!

@FullOnRC 4 года назад

That's one nice looking rig...

@oxfordrc1613 4 года назад

So cool, just needs some yellow paint

@josephsloppy6750 4 года назад

I do like the speedo settings nice touch. The back flips are cool.

@supocarta74 3 года назад

Never beat the one and only lunchbox😍

@CG-zz4nd 4 года назад

It has a Ford Econoline body with a Chevy grill.

@elosieblount9656 4 года назад

That Van is Awesome. I want one 👏👍👍👍👍!

@josephsloppy6750 4 года назад

Cool video. I dig the looks. Tuff van looks well built.

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

Thanks Joseph! -Brett

@josephsloppy6750 4 года назад

@@AMain_Hobbies why do i see a van class coming soon. Lol . would be fun.

@betadan 4 года назад

Needs a blue version with a wizard painted on the side

@rc-dom-uk 2 года назад

Love mine. Quick to for brushed and a decent price 👍

@flyingfortressrc1794 4 года назад

I just bought one yesterday from you when I saw you had them in stock. Can't wait to get it delivered 😁

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

Yes, congratulations! Happy you jumped on the opportunity because they're out of stock already. -Brett

@Mail-ke3kj 4 года назад

Dude, that is sick!

@jonlaird5082 4 года назад

This looks pretty cool but I'd ditch the black/red/silver side stripes and put the orange ones on for that 70's vibe colors,lol. Curious to see how well that style 12mm hex hub will hold out over time? 🤔 Oh and the backflips were pretty cool to see 👍

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

Thanks man! The adapters on our other Fazer Mk2 chassis have held up without one issue, all with a 2S LiPo. These tires are a bit bigger than the touring car and muscle car versions, but they should operate without issue. -Brett

@razif6916 4 года назад

Looks like the A team van...chassis similiar to tamiya tt02 design.

@philliplyn2692 4 года назад

Loving this one thanks for sharing very important information giving thanks blessed love to all knowledge is power hopefully everyone pays attention keep up the good work 🙏🙏🙏🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲💪💪💪

@ronhughley6510 4 года назад

The body almost looks a little too small and Too Short especially for where the shocks are mounted and show through other than that it looks pretty cool

@jarodreddig63 4 года назад

Thats a great body. I wish they made that for a E Revo 2.0

@toshionishikubo2825 4 года назад

Unlike a Tamiya lunch box, it ’s good because it ’s a 4WD

@paulmccarter908 4 года назад

Blasphemy! j/k I actually like the simplicity of 2wd on the Lunchie; learning on a 2wd makes 4wd a cheat code.

@jahmenrcbuildingasone4254 4 года назад

Hmmmmmmmmm need a basher the body could fit a MST maybe! Iike it👌

@slowbutsure504 4 года назад

Reminds of boogy van monster truck from thr 90's Lol love it.

@RCAddictsGarage 4 года назад

Bounce dat thang!

@ohshititztrapaholik100 4 года назад

I broke both my front suspension arms the day i bought mine and now im having a hard time trying to get parts in Australia. Alot of kyosho suppliers dont ship to aus 😢

@EeeBeee2 4 года назад

Did you manage to get parts?

@Jcortez2214 4 года назад

Just received mine 3 days ago and ran it for 15 minutes and stripped my spur gear! Sucks!! Contacted Kyosho they are sending me a replacement part.

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

Awesome; happy to hear they're hooking you up! Did you come down from a big jump or something, or install more horsepower? The gear mesh is fixed, so i'm surprised it stripped. -Brett

@Jcortez2214 4 года назад

AMain Hobbies, no jump just speed passes on a regular 2s Lipo. Maybe did some donuts... so I’m assuming the heat might have caused it. But yes I’m glad Kyosho is making if right..

@onesubscriberwithzerovideo2584 4 года назад

Love that body style

@bigpoppapaulsradiocontroll2724 4 года назад

Subbed you to throw your name off 😂💯

@onesubscriberwithzerovideo2584 4 года назад

BigPoppaPaul's Radio Controlled Adventures had zero for like a year and now have 2 smh

@bigpoppapaulsradiocontroll2724 4 года назад

@@onesubscriberwithzerovideo2584 👍

@mikeymike3240 4 года назад

Can you leave a link to where you can buy the body shell separately please. Awesome truck, I love the pervy van style,have you any sweets inside lol Great driving video too,actually enjoyed the back flips.😎👍👍👍

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

You bet Mikey! Here it is, although it is not yet available for purchase, but will be soon. You'll notice this page change from "Unavailable Online" to "Add to Cart" when the change happens (right side, under price). But this is the page: www.amainhobbies.com/kyosho-mad-van-decoration-body-set-bronze-kyofab502br/p1156751?r=0 -Brett

@linc131313 4 года назад

Man, I'm really loving Kyosho lately! Have you guys seen the new Kyosho 1969 Z28 Camaro yet?! 😁

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

YES! Love it. -Brett

@haasii 4 года назад

Does the KT-432PT transmitter work with this??

@AMain_Hobbies 3 года назад

It should as long as you have the KR-331 receiver in your Mad Van, which i think you do (but maybe double check). I checked a different Fazer Mk2 vehicle that we have here and it had the KR-331 receiver in it. -Brett

@haasii 3 года назад

@@AMain_Hobbies thanks Brett, it did work just fine!

@phillipjohnson1435 4 года назад

Awesome

@pedrocardenas7533 4 года назад

What motor and esc would you prefer for a avenge 10mtxlr for torque and speed

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

The Brushless motor and ESC included with that truck are pretty dang good. Not sure it's worth it, but a Castle system would be great in there. Maybe something like this one: www.amainhobbies.com/castle-creations-sidewinder-sct-waterproof-combo-w-sensored-1410-motor-3800kv-cse010-0123-02/p618580 -Brett

@ianmoore8625 4 года назад

that is a cool rc

@GTFour 4 года назад

Can you review Kyosho Monster Tracker

@robertobassi1843 3 года назад

Very cool monster truck can you Give me a link where is possibile buy?thanks a lot

@mushyzachman7731 4 года назад

Would I be able to run this on a 3s lipo with everything else fully stock?

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

No. 2S is the limit with stock electronics. -Brett

@Jarhead1313 4 года назад

I have a brand new Traxxas Velineon brushless system still in the box I had got for my son not knowing my wife had already bought him the exact same thing so my question is what would I need to do to the Mad Van for it to handle the brushless power or is it built well enough to handle it already? I'm thinking about getting it and stop the dust from collecting on the Velineon motor and esc in my garage...

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

That's a great question. With the metal driveshafts the truck should handle 2S Brushless ok, 3S should be ok too, but the metal center driveshaft may be needed. Not exactly sure what will happen though as we haven't tried this. Sounds like something fun to try. -Brett

@Jarhead1313 4 года назад

@@AMain_Hobbies ok cool thanks bro.

@malenterocker1 4 года назад

Whats the differenz between the mad van and the fazer dodge hellcat?driving characteristic simular?

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

No, they're each unique in how they drive. The Hellcat has the shorter arms, 190mm touring car width and small TC wheels, so it drives quick and nimble like an on-road vehicle. In comparison, the Mad Van sits taller and wider, so on pavement it has a lot of body roll and movement, like an off-road vehicle. -Brett

@malenterocker1 4 года назад

@@AMain_Hobbies thanks for the quick answer !got my hellcat today and I'm happy with it!!

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

YES! Congratulations Plum Crazy Purple. Let me know if there is anything we can help with! -Brett

@pedrocardenas7533 4 года назад

Ok thanks

@christopherlastname7638 4 года назад

I love it !

@cracklesmccrakken6518 4 года назад

Nice review, Brett! I'm going to step it up a slight bit and fit my old Tamiya Lunchbox lid to a brushless 1/10 4WD racing buggy! Wooooh haha...! :-) Or I might just get the Mad Van and be done with it, only thing that's concerning me is the abundant use of plastic!! (I'm very anti-plastic atm due to breaking 1 million Traxxas driveshafts but that's a different story....) Anyways, love your work as always! Cheers!! Craig.

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

That sounds awesome! Send us a photo when you get that body fitted on the chassis (brettb@amain.com). Will the tires fit under the body, or will they stick out? -Brett

@cracklesmccrakken6518 4 года назад

Oh they would definitely stick out. I'm actually having some issues finding a suitable chassis with a short enough wheelbase (around 200mm/8") Shortest I've got is Tamiya TA-02T which is 10" The search continues...

@Edgar-jn9xv 4 года назад

So whats the best battery for this thing ?

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

It would be a 2S LiPo with the highest C rating possible for maximum punch. This ProTek is 120C: www.amainhobbies.com/protek-rc-2s-120c-sigraphene-hv-lcg-lipo-battery-7.6v-6300mah-ptk-5115-20/p1060483 This Reedy has 110C and a little more capacity: www.amainhobbies.com/reedy-zappers-hv-sg2-2s-110c-lipo-battery-7.6v-8200mah-asc27333/p873517 And lastly, this Gens Ace pack has 100C and is the most affordable: www.amainhobbies.com/gens-ace-race-spec-2s-lipo-battery-pack-100c-7.4v-5000mah-ga-b1079/p754435 Hope this helps! -Brett

@damienpannell8007 Год назад

I got one love it. But can you lock the defs to do more rock crawling. I know I should have got a rock crawler but I love this look way to much please help.

@aviano72 4 года назад

RTR :( But it looks fun to drive of course. The radio looks better than that awful Arrma radio

@daver18qc 4 года назад

Arrma had a wonderful TTX300 before Horizon got their hands on them and put the cheapest, laggiest Tx in there. They were probably worried nobody would ever buy a Losi again..

@beebop4100 3 года назад

Could you fit a Lunch Box body shell on this do you think ? Reason is, better detail, windows and can fit full led light kit, lamps back and front. I could do a wicked custom paint job too.

@lonewolfrcs1331 3 года назад

if you have to supply the lipo battery is it a true ready to run

@Chris_Love 4 года назад

Stop with the brushed motors kyosho, as someone already said the body should have been clear for you to paint. I see a Mystery machine with thoose wheels, that would have been nutz. Cool car!

@rcpete7055 3 года назад

Do you still compete in races Brett?? 😊

@AMain_Hobbies 3 года назад

Yeah, once in a while i'll race at our local Silver Dollar R/C Raceway. I don't do much traveling for races anymore though, just keep it local. -Brett

@DeliberateNRandom 2 года назад

Other than the brushless motor, is there any difference between this and the other one for $290?

@AMain_Hobbies 2 года назад

Yes, primarily just to the drivetrain with a some better gears used and then styling differences. -Brett

@DeliberateNRandom 2 года назад

Unfortunately, I can't find the V2 brushless. Yes, there's enough difference I want to get that version, but I'm getting impatient waiting for months while others keep sharing their own footage.

@AMain_Hobbies 2 года назад

@@DeliberateNRandom A lot of cars are out of stock right now sadly. There are a lot of shortages. -Brett

@DeliberateNRandom 2 года назад

@@AMain_Hobbies 😭 I need my fix! Or if they just had an upgrade kit for the difference, I'd be happy. I have a Slash RWD I could steal the motor and ESC from and buy the brushed. I wonder what the performance difference is between the two. Do you have any comparison videos on motors? Upgrading isn't always a clear path. I put a Castle Mamba 0505 in a Teton. It flies, but it looks like we'll need a metal spur gear for it.

@bccbreaks6712 4 года назад

Lol gimme a mad van!

@lukenukem1164 3 года назад

Hi. Any tips to stop the shocks leaking?? I've rebuilt them several times, I've also bought the aluminium ones both sets leak. I've doubled up the o rings but they still leak, very annoying. Thanks.

@AMain_Hobbies 3 года назад

Normally new o-rings take care of it. The only other thing that might be worth to try is the o-ring grease: www.amainhobbies.com/protek-rc-premier-blue-oring-grease-multipurpose-lubricant-10ml-ptk-1410/p-qeawqseqpzqxactz Team Associated has a similar product: www.amainhobbies.com/team-associated-factory-team-green-slime-asc1105/p-qtqrqzwaxzxxactz I kind of doubt this will eliminate the leak completely because shocks leak a little over time, but it might help. -Brett

@lukenukem1164 3 года назад

@@AMain_Hobbies thank you for this, I haven't tried o-ring grease.

@carfraind1198 2 года назад

Should I get it in my place its 150 or a hpi rs4 sport3 drag build be better for 220£ ?

@nomusicrc 2 года назад

Too bad it’s 48P for the spur and pinion gears but I don’t expect problems because it’s not a crappy Arrma

@braulionieto6621 2 года назад

Is that how fast is goes

@Mxoderberg 3 года назад

Do a brushless conversion video!🤪

@AMain_Hobbies 3 года назад

I believe Kyosho is releasing a Brushless version of the Mad Van sometime soon. We added 3S brushless to a Mk2 Fazer in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YRYOU2aca7E.html About 8:20 in -Brett

@joaquingomez9291 4 года назад

All I see is the scooby doo van!!!

@carloswright 3 года назад

Review the neo 3.0 ve please!

@Lorenzo-kq7yl 3 года назад

Is it waterproof

@AMain_Hobbies 3 года назад

Not entirely, no. -Brett

@kasparov937 3 года назад

Esc is.

@ronhughley6510 4 года назад

Looks more like a 1/12th scale then a 1/10th.

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

Yeah, kind of. It's not quite the same as a 1/10 2WD Stadium Truck size. In fact, the Mad Van is two inches wider than it's wheelbase. It's a unique platform, but i'd still say it's within the cusp of 1/10 scale. -Brett

@chriscottell6854 3 года назад

Looks abit small for 1/10 scale.

@johnfpv6989 3 года назад

can some manufacture do a 4s monster truck , truggy , stund truck at a price around 400 euros and be available in greece ? i feel i dont have that option here in greece any ways like arrma...... just someone do something

@tywinngton8384 4 года назад

I need tha n a 3 speed nitro plz and thank u

@Antwgeo06 Год назад

Max speed ?

@StefanKaizur 4 года назад

But can it bounce? lmao

@jeffbryner5355 4 года назад

Thats funny a Japanese company makes something you would see in the usa back in the boondocks lol. I wonder how many Japanese people did this to a amreican made van back in the day? Lol

@65ondubz 4 года назад

lunchbox 2.0

@mushyzachman7731 4 года назад

Is this better than the Traxxas Bigfoot? I'm thinking of getting either this or the Traxxas Bigfoot, and I want to see which one is better for jumping farther and doing tricks (like a backflip).

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

That's a tough comparison. The Bigfoot is a 2WD truck, this Mad Van is a 4X4, so they're quite different. The 4X4 will be better for doing flips, but you'll probably need more power to do it. Something like a brushless setup. They're both great trucks though. -Brett

@trappedsol 4 года назад

Fkin hate dogbones. They always pop out and disappear.

@paulclancy2404 4 года назад

Polish them so you can find or paint em

@trappedsol 4 года назад

Yea a friend told me years back, paint them yellow so you can find them. Never took the advice lol

@paulclancy2404 4 года назад

Piece yellow tape, my bones only pop when truck getting sloppy

@trappedsol 4 года назад

Paul Clancy even if you whack the corner wall or tree or something, the arms will bend just enough for that sucker to slingshot out of there. Im not easy on my bashers so things happen. Lol

@troyandersonnitrorc6180 4 года назад

It would be awesome if it was NITRO

@tonyallen8626 4 года назад

Its ready to run straight out of the box BUT before you can run it you need to buy this that and the other, I always thought rtr meant you buy and then you drive it,maybe you have to get some battery's for the radio but that's it.

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

HA, there is some truth to that. Because shipping batteries has become so difficult (and expensive) many companies do not ship batteries with the vehicle anymore, so that's a big contributor. -Brett

@rockman49er 4 года назад

DAMIT I NEED A DIFFERENTIAL RING AND PINION GEAR FOR MY LOSI MINI 8IGHT

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

Is it this item? We have it in stock! www.amainhobbies.com/losi-front-rear-differential-gear-set-w-housing-spacers-losb1923/p215141 -Brett

@roberthartmann782 4 года назад

They should make it bigger and have brushless motor in it. 1/6 or 1/8 scale. It's ok being 1/10.. but seem they should made different versions of this. .. looks kool!!

@Off3er 4 года назад

Oooh! I need those tires with some black alu beadlock wheels on my crawler 😲 what is the outer diameter on those tires? Oh btw, can you mount them on a crawler and show us the look? Maybe you have instagram? 😁

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

They are wide tires! Shoot me an email at brettb@amain.com for those photos. I put the tire on the TRX4 Sport for rough idea of the stance and look. -Brett

@Off3er 4 года назад

@@AMain_Hobbies sent you a mail, thank you 👍😊

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

@@Off3er Replied.

@Fluterra 4 года назад

Should be “its” not “it’s” in the description.

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

Updated. -Brett

@trappedsol 4 года назад

Remember when RTR meant RTR?

@paulclancy2404 4 года назад

I remember when it meant RTB ready to break 🚗🙂

@trappedsol 4 года назад

Lol nah not all of them

@kloudkreeper 2 года назад

Too much plastic where it shouldn't be in my opinion. Kewl van tho 😎

@YoungWide 4 года назад

What about the new team associated rival mt10 3s new rival truck from associated huh later review I guess

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

It looks like a good Monster Truck! I like how Team Associated offers two versions with the RTR and the Combo RTR with battery and charger. That really helps simplify things for beginners. Not sure if we'll get our hands on one, but we'll keep an eye out for one. -Brett

@jmaclaren4147 4 года назад

Nice; but why is Kyosho coming up with the ridiculous proprietary stub axles and drive hexes....not impressed by that, it's not innovative, just inconvenient.

@skogpekka 4 года назад

Well, the fact that it makes it possible to run a bigger bearing is a bonus - for starters...

@RegularGuy76 4 года назад

Real Light....... none functioning??

@stepbackjack4194 4 года назад

I pity the fool.

@Smodlee 4 года назад

There sold out already 🤦🏻‍♂️Every time a new toy comes out every RU-vidr has to snatch them all up and be the first to review them to get that RU-vid money

@AMain_Hobbies 4 года назад

Hi Distress. AMain Hobbies will have more in stock soon. Here is the page: www.amainhobbies.com/kyosho-fazer-mk2-mad-van-1-10-4wd-readyset-monster-truck-kyo34412t1/p1152613 -Brett

@matthewneufer1758 4 года назад

I don't see why Kyosho don't put that extra $0.50 with it and make the ffher brushless I just dont understand no one's going to buy it if they got to upgrade it right off rip