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What's Really Happening With Seventeen's Joshua?! (Boycott, Dating & Protest Trucks) 

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SEVENTEEN joshua has become embroiled in kpop dating rumors recently, which has stirred up so much drama within the fandom that it’s getting crazier every day. It’s actually so bad that people demand that he leaves the group. stick around to find out what's happening with SEVENTEEN joshua! subscribe to kookielit for more kpop news and videos.
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@scarlet-4
@scarlet-4 9 месяцев назад
This is ridiculous!! He has the right as every human in the world to have a girlfriend.
@soaa_stay9932
@soaa_stay9932 9 месяцев назад
For real, this is so ridiculous! Do the fans really think they’ll date him someday? 😭 Also his private life is none of their businesses lmao
@DUNGSTA
@DUNGSTA 9 месяцев назад
How many girlfriends does he need?
@nicanormendoza4072
@nicanormendoza4072 9 месяцев назад
Dude wtf thoes are some mad red flags fans lol
@Lol-zd6nf
@Lol-zd6nf 9 месяцев назад
Fr like he can do whatever tf he wants
@jim.5600
@jim.5600 9 месяцев назад
louder!!!
@WhippedForJungkookie
@WhippedForJungkookie 9 месяцев назад
Let Joshua live, date anyone he wants, every idol should be free to fall in love, no one should care, they have the right to a personal life and happiness. The ownership that korean fans think they have over him is abhorrent. For fans that truly appreciate and love Joshua, it is only important that he is happy.
@siladev
@siladev 9 месяцев назад
YES EXACTLY!
@zacharikurbah6358
@zacharikurbah6358 9 месяцев назад
I agree
@whiterose150
@whiterose150 9 месяцев назад
Ita.
@nicoleloss7987
@nicoleloss7987 9 месяцев назад
True. But Josh is not dating. His personal life is no one business but his own
@l0vet075
@l0vet075 9 месяцев назад
You dont know anything abt idol then.
@Drastly
@Drastly 9 месяцев назад
This is why companies need to stop encouraging idols to do fan service and play a bf/gf role to fans. Dating bans also shouldn't be a thing. It's just a double-edged sword. Yes, they make a lot of money and maintain their fandom, but some fans start to feel entitled to an idol's personal life. At the end of the day, being an idol is their job. Once they're off the clock, you should not be concerned with what they are doing. These fans attacking idols for doing thing as harmless as dating really need to get a life and put the energy they have for canceling an idol for dating towards idols who are racist, fatphobic, homophobic, misogynistic, and so on.
@tonnigillis266
@tonnigillis266 9 месяцев назад
This!!! You are 100% correct. Craziness like this won’t change until the companies do as you pointed out. I really feel sorry for all the idols.
@nicoleloss7987
@nicoleloss7987 9 месяцев назад
But svt dating ban was lifted after 5 years
@rbsan2502
@rbsan2502 9 месяцев назад
@@nicoleloss7987they’re referring to kpop companies in general.
@omobukolaolowu7852
@omobukolaolowu7852 9 месяцев назад
You are 1ooooooooooo time right
@rosiii880
@rosiii880 9 месяцев назад
the most annoying part is that Pledis doesn't even have a dating ban, if seventeen members aren't dating is because they chose not to, so fans know the members could be dating any time and still get this mad like joshua murd3red their pet or something it's demented
@astropanada9695
@astropanada9695 9 месяцев назад
Guys, Joshua is 27 meaning he is in the right season for dating and there’s nothing wrong with that. Everybody wants to find love and meet the right one so who are we to deny him of that? We as fans should support him and his gf
@nitablue6264
@nitablue6264 9 месяцев назад
You are so right
@nicoleloss7987
@nicoleloss7987 9 месяцев назад
But their is a problem because he is not dating her. Idols private lives should be respected
@astropanada9695
@astropanada9695 9 месяцев назад
@@nicoleloss7987 Invasion of privacy is a big issue here and you’re right. If it comes out they are together, the way we found out is probably not how Joshua wanted us to find out. Dating is a private part of an Idol’s life and it should stay that way unless they want to make it public. We gotta realize that just because they are Idols, it doesn’t mean they don’t have feelings and most of them dream with having families. Love is a normal part of life
@tashasmithy5795
@tashasmithy5795 9 месяцев назад
His real fans don’t care and want him to be happy it’s just sasaeng fans are crazy and delusional
@rouroume7085
@rouroume7085 9 месяцев назад
He is 28
@brittanym9266
@brittanym9266 9 месяцев назад
Man. How can you call yourself a “fan” if you go to all these extremes over a rumor? True or untrue, it’s a rumor. And, shouldn’t you want your idol happy? Ridiculous.
@princesserika9899
@princesserika9899 9 месяцев назад
They always jump into conclusions.. 😃
@Beazuu
@Beazuu 9 месяцев назад
The saddest thing is a lot of them do date, and love other people and a lot of them do have to fake it and say they don't love the person they are rumored to be dating in order to save their career basically. It's just sad overall. It's quite possible and very likely Joshua is in a long-term relathionship with this woman and it's still possible he will ignore the rumors or even try to lie in order to protect what they have. Just sad overall.
@margarete5920
@margarete5920 9 месяцев назад
IKR. If you're a fan you should've know how close the members are. They even renew their contract because they care so much for each other and the fans. How can you suggest one of the to leave? Being an idol is their JOB. You don't own them or anything. Ugh these "fans" need to LEAVE
@rosiesblossom
@rosiesblossom 9 месяцев назад
fr like boycotting him and everything is TOO MUCH like did the fans actually think they had a chance with him or smth??
@nicoleloss7987
@nicoleloss7987 9 месяцев назад
He is not dating. They should respect his privacy their personal lives are not hour business
@seungcheolsdirtysocks
@seungcheolsdirtysocks 9 месяцев назад
im sorry but how delusional do you have to be to think that shua will date you 😭😭. this is just plain embarrasing atp. some people are so petty my god 💀
@iamurmomwhoiswatchingurn1141
@iamurmomwhoiswatchingurn1141 9 месяцев назад
FR
@yalenazackarali3078
@yalenazackarali3078 9 месяцев назад
NO CAP
@ayanobadass949
@ayanobadass949 9 месяцев назад
Fr 💀
@ramyeonz8447
@ramyeonz8447 9 месяцев назад
Right …how are you so bent on marrying a man that’s has never seen you and knows nothing abt you like honey he doesn’t even know you so why are you boycotting like he cheated ☠️?
@rbsan2502
@rbsan2502 9 месяцев назад
These “fans” need other hobbies for real or a slap in the face to bring them back to reality.
@anushkanegi304
@anushkanegi304 9 месяцев назад
Joshua is the most genuine idol. He doesn't deserve this. Btw all the delusional haters thinking they can make him leave the group don't know the strength of CARATS
@wonderslala
@wonderslala 9 месяцев назад
If I was his fan, I would be so happy knowing that he was in a stable relationship for 3 years He is handsome, successful and believes in a committed relationship
@SBBunny93
@SBBunny93 9 месяцев назад
THIS 👏🏽. NEEDS 👏🏽. TO 👏🏽. STOP 👏🏽. KPOP stars are people to with needs and are entitled to love like everyone else. They don’t need to tell you, they don’t need to communicate with you daily, they don’t need to “tone down” their relationship to appease you, who will NEVER have a chance with anyone of these idols. I swear this only exists in KPOP. No other entertainer in any industry gets harassed or cancelled simply by obtaining a partner.
@Dreamyvinini
@Dreamyvinini 9 месяцев назад
Fr !!
@feliciat3077
@feliciat3077 9 месяцев назад
Japan does this, I legit just saw this happen to heck a popular weatherwoman lol. these people have gone insane with their parasocial relationships. Also a comment I found in the comment section said this about another celebrity (not the weatherwoman I'm talking about): "Note when Fukuyama Masaharu announced he was getting married, this was literally front page news for like a week. The stock of the talent company he was in tanked like 20%. The news was literally middle age women weeping on the streets about it. Many people said they left his fan club. He was 46" People are crazy!
@astre5655
@astre5655 9 месяцев назад
FOR REAL LETS SAY THIS FOR THE PEOPLE AT THE BACK BC ITS INSANE HOW IDOLS ARE TREATED AND EXPECTED TO JUST NEVER GET WITH ANYONE
@suzyplaysyt9718
@suzyplaysyt9718 9 месяцев назад
Just to clarify I'm a huge carat and obsessed with svt for 3 years and Joshua is my bias and always has been since day 1...Seeing people go this far telling him to leave the group and more breaks my heart into million pieces like what happened to the carats that would celebrate when one of svt members gets into a dating scandal?What happened to our peaceful fandom?This is honestly brutal and I'm actually looking forward for him to date since that guy is the definition of GENTLEMAN so if someone like him doesn't date then I guarantee that most of the world's boys would be single for a lifetime..What would those people feel if someone had the control over their private lives and relationships would they not date if some delusional fans told them and threatened them not to?Bro is 28 let him live and if that is what makes him happy then let it be.
@rebekkapr7726
@rebekkapr7726 9 месяцев назад
Agreed. I guess this is what happens to all fandoms that grow a lot in size… more bad apples in a bigger group.
@Mk-bz8oq
@Mk-bz8oq 9 месяцев назад
exactly all these crazy "fan" will find someone too by 27 but cant see a grown man in relationship, their entitlement to him staying single is so weird
@suzyplaysyt9718
@suzyplaysyt9718 9 месяцев назад
@@rebekkapr7726 🖒exactly
@suzyplaysyt9718
@suzyplaysyt9718 9 месяцев назад
@@Mk-bz8oq yesss that is what I meannn
@I09862p
@I09862p 9 месяцев назад
I guess these aren't fans. This is done by some groups who are jealous of seventeen . But still an advertisement, they made news Only popular people have haters😂
@procrastinatingmultistan4781
@procrastinatingmultistan4781 9 месяцев назад
Joshua is one of my biases in SVT and the member that made me stan the group and seeing all of these "fans" really breaks my heart! how delusional and obsessive you should be to do all of those things to someone who was allegedly your bias and still think you are in the right... hope pledis and hybe do something to protect shua and put all of these crazy stalkers in their place
@rosiii880
@rosiii880 9 месяцев назад
they have really lost sight of reality completely, who do they think they are to demand him to leave the group for dating? like 💀 let's be fr for a second
@NoHairNoHumanity
@NoHairNoHumanity 9 месяцев назад
I'll never understand how dating becomes a scandal. As if they aren't people who fall in love, cry, get mad, or get excited. Let them live. We became fans because of the music, and that should be it.
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj 7 месяцев назад
Exactly but many fans are delusional and dream of marrying them and all. It is understandable if it is just a phase but you have to grow out of it as it is not healthy.
@Liya24261
@Liya24261 9 месяцев назад
Some fans cannot accept that these idols are actual people with real emotions and they have their own choice on who they date
@user-ty6si9ys8z
@user-ty6si9ys8z 9 месяцев назад
Yess so true 😊
@Iamyour_caratforever
@Iamyour_caratforever 9 месяцев назад
Most of them aren't rlly fans I guess. Some are like haters and antis who want him gone. And those "fans" who don't want to accept their decisions then shouldn't be called fans as they don't want to support the idols in their decisions
@Jeonghann_iyo17
@Jeonghann_iyo17 9 месяцев назад
Exactly , Im an chinese carat and im so mad at the other chinese carat did he was such an angel😭
@LolaLola0007
@LolaLola0007 9 месяцев назад
Hahahahha leave the group? Ya’ll are sick 😂
@kim_minju_
@kim_minju_ 9 месяцев назад
Yea ikr
@kim_minju_
@kim_minju_ 9 месяцев назад
It’s pretty pathetic
@princesserika9899
@princesserika9899 9 месяцев назад
"I demand that he leaves the group" What are you? A manager or someone with power? 😂😂 You forgot that you're a fan and a student
@kim_minju_
@kim_minju_ 9 месяцев назад
@@princesserika9899fr
@thepg071
@thepg071 9 месяцев назад
Lmoa ikr , when junhui acted in drama they were memeing him n actress and joking. But when it comes to dating they act so serious, I'm confused.
@KartikiArute
@KartikiArute 9 месяцев назад
This is really sad how people react when their idols start dating. They should understand that they have their own personal life too! The people who are calling themselves his fans and are also hating him don't deserve to be carats. Joshua is my bias too and I will always support him and the rest of seventeen no matter what!
@koara392
@koara392 9 месяцев назад
I can ignore some ridiculous fans and give Seventeen my full support, but at this point I'm afraid Joshua won't renew his contract. As fans we have to know our place, he is your idol not your lover. I hope some people who say they are fans but want Joshua to leave the group can grow up soon and find their lover in the real world instead of hallucinating that their idol is their lover and controlling the idol's personal life. But I believe true Carat will still support Joshua, even as Carat we have been waiting for dating news from the Seventeen members for a long time. Because Carat wants Seventeen to be happy 💙💙
@aridevian8682
@aridevian8682 9 месяцев назад
We are true Carat 🤗, we support Joshua and Seventeen members 🧡🧡🫶
@zhangberry_
@zhangberry_ 9 месяцев назад
Josh brought his girlfriend a porche?? That's so fricking sweet. Like I'm sorry but idgaf if he has no fans, I will support him and be proud of him because whilst I've not been a carat for too long, I've seen what Joshua is like as a person and joe he grew from debut so I will support him to the end
@nicoleloss7987
@nicoleloss7987 9 месяцев назад
She is not his girlfriend. People really need to stop believing rumors. When or if they are in a relationship they will announce it. But the company has not announced or confirmed anything because it is not true.
@ahsook
@ahsook 9 месяцев назад
Exactly... Since we don't know.. I support him to the fullest now.. But I'll support him even more for being such a sweetheart..
@zhangberry_
@zhangberry_ 9 месяцев назад
@@nicoleloss7987 whether or not they are dating it doesn't matter. If it's rumoured that he did then it shows that he will care for her. If it's just a rumour and he didn't then that's that. All I want is for stupid twats to not cancel someone who has been through so much shit with his debut but is still the biggest gentleman on earth. Joshua never did anything wrong. Nobody did. Them "people" are the reason why K-pop idols never willingly out their relationship. Even Jisoo is getting hate because her boyfriend is not an "a-list actor". It doesn't matter who they are or who they are dating. Those fans needs to learn that their idols lives are theirs. Their lives doesn't concern them. They should be free to date whomever they want without fearing what will happen to them or their partners
@ahsook
@ahsook 9 месяцев назад
@@zhangberry_ literally not to cross their line and be parasocial dedulus..
@rachaels3758
@rachaels3758 9 месяцев назад
@@nicoleloss7987 if the rumors were not true, the company would've denied already. companies only confirm if the idols themselves agree to confirm, like in jisoo from blackpink's case. dating rumors hurt idol's careers a LOT so if rumors aren't true they tend to deny it quickly and this only goes for rumors that blow up on a larger scale. in the korean community there's a general knowledge of, if a company says "we cannot confirm as it's a private matter", probably means they are dating (bc companies can always know, they're in contact with the idols 24/7), and if they don't deny immediately, probably means they're dating or at least some truth to it
@snowflakeismelting
@snowflakeismelting 9 месяцев назад
I feel so bad for grown-ass idols like Joshua. Damn, he's twenty-seven yet still controlled by obsessed fans. These kids should wake up.
@lisakayokay
@lisakayokay 9 месяцев назад
I hope Joshua and Cho Miyoung are both doing alright. Whether the rumors are true or false, this must be taking a toll on their mental health :( Why do some people have to be so delusional?
@silverspark4726
@silverspark4726 9 месяцев назад
Support joshua!!! Why can't Idols be in a relationship they are also human and they deserve to be in a relationship if we can!!! Stop boycotting him !! And sending trucks and porches to pledis ENT !!
@Anu5kka
@Anu5kka 9 месяцев назад
Nah this is sick. Why cant people let idols live their lives. Just mind your own buisness.
@05mridhunabaiju68
@05mridhunabaiju68 9 месяцев назад
This is the extreme level of toxicity. This really needs to stop. He was just moving towards his happiness and those so called brainless toxic fans have made his life hell. to those stupid saesangs, I really hope karma strikes you back and just feel the same pain that poor person is going through
@taetae__1995
@taetae__1995 9 месяцев назад
We love you Joshua…Haters need to back off him and leave him alone. Don’t take someone else’s happiness just because you aren’t happy. Shua, we want you to be happy. I love your smile. Smile like the diamond you are. Please don’t let the haters dim your sunshine or smile. The true carats will support you no matter what. ❤️Love you Shua❤️Support Seventeen and Joshua #shua # happiness #smilelikeadiamond.
@MeganSin
@MeganSin 9 месяцев назад
I feel so bad for idols because they aren’t allowed to date publicly because k netizens get upset. Poor Joshua. I hate the whole look available but be unattainable
@AnanyaG02
@AnanyaG02 9 месяцев назад
What the hell....are they sick or something?😂😂 He is 27 years old, how can you expect him to be not dating. It's his life whatever he wants to do...he is an idol doesn't means we own his life..HATERS GET SOMETHING ELSE TO DO AND STOP HATING ON HIM❤❤
@Baerona17
@Baerona17 9 месяцев назад
This is so insane, they don't want him to be happy? If he is happy we are happy too, bcs real fans want this! Stop being delusional, they are not boyfriends they are artists. Please leave him alone and let him live happy life he wants to live. Love Joshua and hope these all crazy thing stops as soon as possible.
@kasturisuradkar397
@kasturisuradkar397 9 месяцев назад
This is so sad, this needs to stop for real. I hope he's okay. STAY STRONG JOSHUA, we'll love you no matter what, don't get discouraged ❤️❤️
@finjatortl
@finjatortl 9 месяцев назад
It's so sad what's happening to Joshua.. Fans of Kpop boy groups are on another level of delusional. I feel really bad for him.
@seungkwannieee
@seungkwannieee 9 месяцев назад
Carats were such a peaceful fandom till last year, and even for the start of this year...but as the caratland grows bigger it's getting more toxic :( I'm happy that seventeen are growing bigger each passing day but this amount of toxicity is so disturbing, especially in caratland. I hope these so called delusional "carats" realise their worth and stop this shit.
@citamora
@citamora 9 месяцев назад
You guys got to stop that our fandom is peaceful fandom. Absolutely no random is peaceful. There is toxic fan in every fandom. And those people need to go for counselling instead of projecting their issues on idols.
@retricallltann6243
@retricallltann6243 9 месяцев назад
things those just arent carats we all know carats would be laughing and meming these whole situation instead of being fucking delusional and wasting money on trucks and porsches
@Purple_Poppy
@Purple_Poppy 9 месяцев назад
​@@citamoraThis is so real I am tired of that hypocritic statement coz genuinely I have met tons of toxic carats Like no fandom is toxic free
@Lunasolamel
@Lunasolamel 9 месяцев назад
Not me wishing I could be in front of Hybe with a chair and popcorn so that I could be entertained by a bunch of Delulus with shaven eyebrows crying their hearts out while driving Porsches. But in all seriousness, if the rumours are true, I wish all the best to the couple.
@MyPebOritEtiRaMisU
@MyPebOritEtiRaMisU 9 месяцев назад
Fr 😂
@retricallltann6243
@retricallltann6243 9 месяцев назад
funny thing is they think porsches will send a mssg sorry but hybe and shua are able to buy cars way more expensive then porsches adn could care less with their delulu compalins lol
@sapiensno8billion
@sapiensno8billion 9 месяцев назад
it's insane. he is a performer, the public is supposed to enjoy his performance, not devour his entire life and soul
@mimiccreed899
@mimiccreed899 9 месяцев назад
What's even more upsetting is that even is Joshua had told us that he had a girlfriend these so called fans would have done the same thing if not worse. No matter what he does people will still get mad at him, and that makes me so mad because I can't do anything to help. All I can do is watch and hope that it gets better.............................................................................................................. They better not get him kicked out of the group or I'm going to Korea and China to beat some carrot ass!!!!!!!!!😡😡🤬🤬😡🤬😠😠 O and to any carrot who reads this please understand and support your bias no matter what he does, and that goes for every fandom and every kpop stan, they're people too and they deserve the world.
@sleepysarah.
@sleepysarah. 9 месяцев назад
Sorry, but shaving your eyebrows is beyond extreme and bordering deranged. And spending 'the fans money' on his girlfriend? What's with these people. And if Hoshi is dating Soo hyuk then I'm ecstatic for both of them. They are both gorgeous .
@Gamer97043
@Gamer97043 9 месяцев назад
Huh ?
@Naga444
@Naga444 9 месяцев назад
Instead she should have shaved her head this delulu fans will never learn every fandoms like this god when will this change
@eggiemybaby
@eggiemybaby 9 месяцев назад
lol as if they just sit there and we pay for them. Nah gurl they work, dance for us, give us music, you get what you pay for.
@marinatte4628
@marinatte4628 9 месяцев назад
Joshua has been my bias since a long time and seeing him go through all this hurts me, whether its Joshua or any other idol, they shouldnt go through all this just to have a life with someone else other then with their members and fans :C, leave these people alone, I hope everything will be alr for him, Good luck
@7teen_wonu
@7teen_wonu 9 месяцев назад
Joshua is probably the most of all members to appreciate his fans love and support he must be so devastated and disappointed of how quick they turned their backs on him. My boy deserves nothing but all the happiness in the world. I hope he isn't affected by those delulu fans and comes out stronger as ever.
@Mk-bz8oq
@Mk-bz8oq 9 месяцев назад
this is one of the most sweetest SVT members he made bracelets for his "fans" too , and same people are betraying him. do you want your idols to d*e alone without any loved one? what is wrong with this "netzins" what kind of support is this where you cant be happy for someone ?
@babbustars1968
@babbustars1968 9 месяцев назад
I dont care if joshua is dating or not but if he is happy then REAL carats are happy
@chayazeff1995
@chayazeff1995 9 месяцев назад
If these dating rumors of joshua is true im sure he would probably confirm it by now. Or in another case hes not saying anything because he wants to keep his private life of course private. Im wondering why joshua hasn't commented about the rumors yet.
@aoifa_silverDragon
@aoifa_silverDragon 9 месяцев назад
dman if he does damn if he doesnt. no matter what he will do, these "fans" will go for his throat.
@LG-rw6zf
@LG-rw6zf 9 месяцев назад
This is crazy! News flash: They are all dating. All the idols need to speak up about their significant others at once. They can’t boycott them all, right? The agencies need to get rid of dating limitations and speak up as well. Idols and agencies trying so hard to be discrete is only feeding into the fans delusions. The agencies may find it beneficial (eventually). In the US, people can’t get enough of celebrities dating. Sometimes makes celebrities even more popular.
@retricallltann6243
@retricallltann6243 9 месяцев назад
dating bans are there for a reason mostly for rookies but regardless whether svt is dating or not is not our business they are human grown adults who deserve to live their live and start a future with who they want we as the audience dont get to intrude on their personal space its up to the idol whther they want to make their private life public or not and the company aint gonna be the one to handle that since its their private life
@LG-rw6zf
@LG-rw6zf 9 месяцев назад
@@retricallltann6243My suggestion was not to give out details (names, phone numbers, etc) but for idols and the agencies to say “Hey, we (they’re dating) so get over it” kind of thing. I don’t understand dating bans though/limitations. Many are grown. To tell a 25 year old to not date or keep it hidden is ridiculous. My thought is the more you normalize dating, the more it will become the new normal.
@thulasibai6136
@thulasibai6136 9 месяцев назад
I think even they are dating,their company don't confirm their dating because the toxicity of korean female fans.
@nicoleloss7987
@nicoleloss7987 9 месяцев назад
If Josh was dating anyone the company would confirm it. Yg confirmed Jossi relationships.
@nicoleloss7987
@nicoleloss7987 9 месяцев назад
Plus dating bans for svt was lifted along time ago. Kpop labels only have 3-5 year dating bans
@yeonjunjeon
@yeonjunjeon 9 месяцев назад
I feel so bad for idols, they can't be happy without crazy "fans" acting like they own them. I'm not a Seventeen fan but I stand by the real fans that support and encourage the boys to live their lives the way they want to ❤ Someone should give these so called fans a taste of their own medicine
@parthvi826
@parthvi826 9 месяцев назад
Yes so true😢
@princesserika9899
@princesserika9899 9 месяцев назад
As what my teacher said in class today, "If the truth isn't grounded then it's bound to face error". How can you find a simple rumor to be grounded if there's no proof, huh? How can you prove something if you have no evidence? Get the picture, people! Use your critical thinking, it ain't that hard 😀😀 Are these people just that delusional and mentally sick that they'd rather be impulsive by destroying one's image instead of being rational like a human being!
@devilenenayazako5161
@devilenenayazako5161 9 месяцев назад
Some of them are really delusional, and every fandom have that kind of fans and they belong to the toxic ones😢
@princesserika9899
@princesserika9899 9 месяцев назад
@@devilenenayazako5161 Hey, let's not paint some fandoms as "toxic ones", let's just say that they have a bad reputation because of the toxic fans
@devilenenayazako5161
@devilenenayazako5161 9 месяцев назад
@@princesserika9899 I mean, I'm sorry if that's what you understand but I didn't mean the whole as toxic, what I want to tell is that every fandom have delusional fans and they belong to the toxic group of the fandom. Therefore, I didn't mean a whole fandom is toxic, it is part of the fandom and every fandom have that side, so yeah, I'm sorry if you misunderstood that part.
@princesserika9899
@princesserika9899 9 месяцев назад
@@devilenenayazako5161 It's alright, I still get your point. Yeah, we all have that toxic group in the fandom that deserves to be locked in a room for a long period of time
@dannym8472
@dannym8472 9 месяцев назад
I hate hearing people say that he cant date and that hr should leave Seventeen. SEVENTEEN IS A GREAT GROUP. He is an adult. Also, as far as I can tell this girl is a fan. Prob searches his pocs and clothes, and buys them since it makes us feel closer to the idols. Leave him and Seventeen alone
@celine_09_
@celine_09_ 9 месяцев назад
Joshua is my bias in Seventeen and I would be so so happy for him if he is dating someone. He deserve nothing but the best. He is such a nice man and whoever his future partner will be, they will be very lucky. This "hate" has to stop. I am so sorry he has to go through this and for other idols too. They are humans too, they deserve love and affection. I don't really understand why people are getting so mad about idols dating. It is their private life, they can date whoever they want. It is hard to believe that some "so called fans" are so delusional. It is so hard to me to believe.
@akshitaarvind
@akshitaarvind 9 месяцев назад
you know, i always thought of seventeen as a group with a loving and understanding fandom. but boycotting him till he leaves the group? That’s just messed up
@MayaAhmad-yx6oh
@MayaAhmad-yx6oh 9 месяцев назад
Thats not carats! Its the netizens (who aren't even carats wth??) and Chinese antis that started this. And of course with such a big fandom you will find some toxic people. But the majority of carats are reallly supportive about it. Plus most of the evidence if not all is disapproven if not all
@ikaru5089
@ikaru5089 9 месяцев назад
​@@MayaAhmad-yx6oh I saw too much carats complaining
@MayaAhmad-yx6oh
@MayaAhmad-yx6oh 9 месяцев назад
@@ikaru5089 let me tell you, non of them or at least the majority of them are not carats. Its so carzy right now that netizens and fans from other fandoms and netizens are starting to involve them selfs in it to ruin seventeens reputation along with the antis and haters of course. While the Chinese antis were sendind protest truck carats were sending support trucks
@MayaAhmad-yx6oh
@MayaAhmad-yx6oh 9 месяцев назад
@@audrey.pixels what happened? I haven't heared any rumors about mingyu
@MayaAhmad-yx6oh
@MayaAhmad-yx6oh 9 месяцев назад
@@audrey.pixels ain't no way man they always drive with female staff wth???
@mariabejan9855
@mariabejan9855 9 месяцев назад
Bro I hate those fake carats
@mattparsons6813
@mattparsons6813 9 месяцев назад
Jesus these people are delusional. That's such a scary amount of stalking. Imagine wanting your favorite idols to have no one and just be alone forever.
@hwaitingSeoul
@hwaitingSeoul 9 месяцев назад
Tbh I always used to worry about my idols dating because I did not want them to deal with break up but then I realised they are older than me and definitely mature enough to deal with breakups and sad stuff so I stopped caring about them personally. Because like 1 carat had said its not like they are going to marry one of us. So let them be. Let idols live their life and let them deal with their own problems.
@Adriana.Urdaneta
@Adriana.Urdaneta 9 месяцев назад
Yes, this is beyond disturbing! Honestly, like WTF, I think all of these people forgot that, even how happy makes them and fun it is, being an Idol is their job, they cannot or should not make all their lives about their job. If this is true, cause there's no confirmation yet, I'll be so happy for him and if he really has been dating the person he likes for 3 years I'll be overjoyed. He as anybody else deserves to be happy.
@rinasan6539
@rinasan6539 9 месяцев назад
I didn't expect that there is this number of toxic carats... It's sad that dating is still considered a "scandal" in the idol industry...
@egroup.
@egroup. 9 месяцев назад
POOR JOSHUA I HAVE TO SAY THAT PEOPLE LIKE THESE SHOULD NEVER BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY AND ALSO NOT NOTICED I MEAN LIKE HOW CAN SOMEONE BE SO ANGRY JUST BECAUSE THEIR "FAVOURITE" MEMBER IS DATING SOMEONE UGH SERIOUSLY THESE PEOPLE.
@sarahnewman4101
@sarahnewman4101 9 месяцев назад
Good for Joshua, if the dating rumors are true! I hope he and his girlfriend are very happy together. Everyone deserves love. ❤
@Spidercandy957
@Spidercandy957 9 месяцев назад
I do think this goes back to the way companies promote idols as “boyfriends” or “girlfriends” to their fans. It’s not just about their music, it’s them as a person and the fantasy they sell. While there is a lot of purchasing power in building these fantasies, it also leads to lots of fans putting an intense pressure and meaning on these para social relationships.
@rk-kb5rw
@rk-kb5rw 9 месяцев назад
Well said.
@jetstream2467
@jetstream2467 9 месяцев назад
He is 27 omg, he is grown! It will be ok 😅 Korean fans have too much say so in the idols lives!!!!
@citamora
@citamora 9 месяцев назад
I know right. They have some growing up to do
@fake-eyesopen
@fake-eyesopen 9 месяцев назад
This is all just unnecessary drama… His Agency should just confirm/deny the rumours. This is just dumb, and i am sure this affects his mental health too.. People send so many trucks and it’s just getting out of hand.
@sunflowersun7021
@sunflowersun7021 9 месяцев назад
And just like that, carats self-proclaimed non toxic label is gone 😂 Turns out carats are messy af lmao
@evejane4052
@evejane4052 9 месяцев назад
major wake up call for the fandom lol
@ii_bakuhoe_ii1518
@ii_bakuhoe_ii1518 9 месяцев назад
Bruh I am a carat and I agree like why did we even call ourselves the most "unproblematic fandom"
@-seventeen-1713
@-seventeen-1713 9 месяцев назад
I wish i was damn rich enough to send as much trucks as i support him saying how much i admire his hard work in seventeen whether he was dating or not, he doesnt deserve these antis, i wish he could see how much international carats are supporting him right now..
@taetaelovesstrawberry2190
@taetaelovesstrawberry2190 9 месяцев назад
Honestly shame on these so called fans Carats have changed Joshua pls be strong and we love you and support you no matter what...
@wonyoungs_strawberries
@wonyoungs_strawberries 9 месяцев назад
This is so mean to Joshua and to his rumoured girlfriend do they not understand that it's their own life and he is at the perfect age for him to start to getting to know people plus when is he going to start dating when he is 41 and have kids at 47 or something because that's what the "fans" want I guess
@SeeVolmr
@SeeVolmr 9 месяцев назад
There is clearly a cultural difference. International fans are super confused by this stupid "scandal". I've been waiting for Pledis or Hybe to release this simple statement: "Hybe allows our artists to date. We do not have contracts that prevent dating." From the comments I've seen, many Korean, Japanese, and Chinese "fans" believe Kpop idols have agreed to "no dating" clauses in their contracts. I would like to know what the written and unwritten rules on kpop idol dating really are. Meanwhile, I completely support SEVENTEEN and JOSHUA and wish them much success in the future. I hope these delusional women get a real life!
@minasvtcarat1732
@minasvtcarat1732 9 месяцев назад
Wtf*** is happened to these anti's ? Please dont tell you are fan if you dont like . Just leave the fandom and please leave our josh alone, he dont deserve all these hate . He is the the sweet and caring man who never fails to make seventeen and carats laugh. I really hope he knows how precious he is to us! We the carat will support everything as long as that makes him happy...
@ofiyashapassah385
@ofiyashapassah385 9 месяцев назад
Im happy....I want every member to be in a relationship....n be happier....jst imagine the hardship they have had in their life.. they've worked so hard n still working....so they deserved happiness.... True Carats will always support Seventeen...no matter what....And btw we r their fans...n they r celebrities.....its not like we are ever gonna end up with them...jst becoz we like them lol....
@lavender_007
@lavender_007 9 месяцев назад
I think atp they should deny it even if its true not saying anything is making the situation worse i really support joshua and fans are being so fucking delusional 😢
@animec-dramaskpop6362
@animec-dramaskpop6362 9 месяцев назад
He shouldn't give in. They need to learn that idols are human and deserve to have a life like everyone else.
@lavender_007
@lavender_007 9 месяцев назад
@@animec-dramaskpop6362 i know but it can ruin his career you know how bad it can get the girl will receive death threats and people can even leak her private information so to be safe he should
@animec-dramaskpop6362
@animec-dramaskpop6362 9 месяцев назад
@@lavender_007 It just feels wrong to give into these toxic ppl. They didn't even do anything wrong. The stans are the ones who stalked them. Somebody has to take a stand against this abuse.
@lavender_007
@lavender_007 9 месяцев назад
@@animec-dramaskpop6362 i know😥 humanity isnt even a word anymore for knetizens but we know they will never change even if joshua doesnt deny the rumors his career will be ruined and people are already threatening the girl so to protect her the company or joshua should deny i am more than just happy for joshua its just that the other people wont understand
@mubashsherafirdous1744
@mubashsherafirdous1744 9 месяцев назад
HOW CAN PEOPLE HATE ON THIS PRECIOUS SOUL????
@singibangibungbungbangi
@singibangibungbungbangi 9 месяцев назад
He is my bias ( along with jeonghan) since the beginning. And i am so happy for him. Please Leave him alone. He is a true gentleman and a sweetheart he deserves every happiness in this world. Please don't hurt him, it will affect his mental health please🙏🙏.
@sensoine
@sensoine 9 месяцев назад
Kpop companies shouldn’t let so called fans dictate them Look at what happened to Lucas it only give confidence to this crazy people to do this kind of things
@Hannie4001
@Hannie4001 9 месяцев назад
exactly companies should take some action against it.. lucas leaving NCT was so shocking... i just can't see this with joshua
@Athena_Yours
@Athena_Yours 9 месяцев назад
Even if this was true, I won't be angry nor mad about Joshua dating anyone, it's just heartbreaking for me because he made my standards so high and I love him so much.
@Beazuu
@Beazuu 9 месяцев назад
But like why are you heartbroken? I mean you are heartbroken bc he made ur standards high and u fell in love with an idol? All of these idols do date and have their own lives. He found a proper woman he clearly loves since they have been dating for a long period. If you genuinely do love him, there is no need to be heartbroken. You should be genuinely happy for him, i mean our boy is in loveee.
@MayaAhmad-yx6oh
@MayaAhmad-yx6oh 9 месяцев назад
Oh my god please, there are millions of carats who wish to date him, how do you think hes gonna please all of you??? If it was some western artist nobody would care! why do you have such a high hopes to date a super star with millions of fans, please just sit with yourself a little and realize how delusional and stupid this is. I know its hard but we saw this coming sooner or later, plus most of these rumors are denied
@MyPebOritEtiRaMisU
@MyPebOritEtiRaMisU 9 месяцев назад
Another delulu stan...
@thatlovelyma4700
@thatlovelyma4700 9 месяцев назад
Delulu
@maarshiexcryxx
@maarshiexcryxx 9 месяцев назад
At times like this i wish i had a protest trucks company. I would be a damn richy rich at this point already
@ThanhiixP
@ThanhiixP 9 месяцев назад
I'm just so sorry for everyone in the industry and especially him rn
@christabelheart3783
@christabelheart3783 9 месяцев назад
Joshua dating is nobody business cuz their is something called privacy Please Joshua don't leave the group
@zemuhvvnun8851
@zemuhvvnun8851 9 месяцев назад
nahhh shaving ur eyebrows for someone dating?!! even tho u shave ur eyebrows doesn’t mean Joshua will pull out a ukulele sis lol😭😂
@IzzieSabrina143
@IzzieSabrina143 9 месяцев назад
It’s just sad how much hate idols and their partners get!!! Just leave them alone!!! Let idols enjoy their personal life and just show support. Idols can date whoever they want!! Joshua is grown man and he make decisions with his life!
@pritydesai3075
@pritydesai3075 9 месяцев назад
Worldwide Carats let's protect our angels support them love them unconditionally keep fighting
@wanr5701
@wanr5701 9 месяцев назад
Netizens and fans: population number and childbirth in our country on the decline, please do something to save the future of our country, our people, and our economy!!! Also netizens and fans: idols shouldn't date, marry, nor having kids!!!
@yasminchan7425
@yasminchan7425 9 месяцев назад
The sheer audacity of these people.. he's a grown man who can date if he wants to, none of those "fans" owns him and he doesnt owe them staying single so they can continue living in la la land
@abelwifu
@abelwifu 9 месяцев назад
Tbh I don’t even Stan seventeen but boycotting a man that’s nearly 30 just because he might be dating someone is insane. Some delusional fans be forgetting that these idols are not there friend nor do they know them. So it gives them no right to say what’s wrong and right in their dating life.
@AlexA-xi3sk
@AlexA-xi3sk 9 месяцев назад
This is insane!! Those delusional and entitled “fans” need to touch some grass. Idols are REAL people, not robots nor AI. They deserve a life outside their work. Like I’m flabbergasted. I’m not even familiar with Seventeen at all, and it hurts me that this young man is getting hate for something so mundane as having a girlfriend (allegedly). He shouldn’t be punished by the masses for falling in love, if that’s the case. No idol should. As fans, don’t we want our favs to be happy?
@aunilatiff
@aunilatiff 9 месяцев назад
When i first got to know of this, i was really happy like wow finally its about time they have rumors (woozi said this in game caterers lol) but after a few days it got worse i saw a lot of hate comments in shua’s IG posts but im glad people keep supporting him in twitter plus we still dont know if its true or not seriously it wasnt him who made it obv you wouldn’t have known it unless you *STALKED* that woman and last but not least to those who have been sending hate comments bffr bro is approaching 30 already let him date
@laylachen
@laylachen 9 месяцев назад
if they are dating i’m so happy for him if not then oh well these so called “fans” telling him to leave is absolutely disgusting and i will continue to support seventeen even more
@kamakshiarora3136
@kamakshiarora3136 9 месяцев назад
Oh god this is so bad. I can't imagine how he must be feeling right now
@baymarcccc
@baymarcccc 9 месяцев назад
OMG THAT'S SO SICK. LET KPOP IDOLS HAVE THEIR OWN LIVES!!!!! Sending love and support to Joshua. It's a tough time for him now, hope he's doing fine and well and non harer Carats would send love and support 🥺🥺😭😭🫶🫶
@dirtychaes3452
@dirtychaes3452 9 месяцев назад
And here I was, hoping my favs would release dating news one day. Fans do anything to defend their idol and to ensure their happiness until they find happiness in the arms of someone else 😔
@samreenshaik7371
@samreenshaik7371 9 месяцев назад
He doesn't have to or will never leave the group unless he wants to...People can leave the fandom,put their mobiles and asses on fire He wants to date, he will He deserves the world,to any toxic stan here,why dont u go and study or work They're successful already,the question now is Will you be?
@that_ace_simp
@that_ace_simp 5 месяцев назад
We love you shua ❤ haters are just so lonely and done with their lives that they hate on an adult man who's apparently dating someone. My bias doesnt deserve this, do ya'll even realise how his glowing smile has been so small and dull recently, y'all really want to ruin peoples lives. I hope shua and this Miyeon girl (idk who she is) are okay 😢
@JLO1979
@JLO1979 9 месяцев назад
Bruhh he cant stay single till hes 80 , I hope Joshua and that girl are okay. They don’t deserve this hate
@bbyeniidhee
@bbyeniidhee 9 месяцев назад
this is going out of hand now. y’all have no control over him. imagine if you’re dating someone and everyone in your life is against it and doesn’t what you to be w someone you love, so dumb.
@Engene386luvsEnhyphen
@Engene386luvsEnhyphen 9 месяцев назад
SO WHAT ?! HE IS AN ADULT AND HE IS A HUMAN LIKE US AND HE CAN HAVE FEELINGS TF IS WRONG WITH THESE KNETIZENS (BRO IS 27 LITERALLY A ADULT !!!!!!
@dorothygrimwood8210
@dorothygrimwood8210 9 месяцев назад
You are entitled to date ,Fall in Love. That is a given right of any human being . What makes the fans think , that only they can have that human emotion. If these are just rumors ,as mentioned previously , Then it’s about time that , these poor excuses for human beings ,are found and dealt with. Grow Up ! 💜🦋
@aimiyamada6111
@aimiyamada6111 9 месяцев назад
NO ONE IS LEAVING. OT13 FOREVER
@enayatariq4992
@enayatariq4992 9 месяцев назад
This is so disturbing, I rlly hope this ends soon. I think it's high time that Hybe or maybe even the alleged 'girlfriend's' agency makes a statement and clarifies this. Also, these fans need therapy before they end up doing something worth being sent to jail for. Let's free Carats of these toxic 'fans' and let us maintain our status as the healthiest fandom plz :) Neither Seventeen nor do us Carats require such maniacs in our life.
@tralala3997
@tralala3997 9 месяцев назад
The question is, why PLEDIS is not doing nothing??
@sexypancake1
@sexypancake1 9 месяцев назад
Good video. I didn’t really care for how you presented news about Joshua and this situation in a few of your earlier videos, because I felt like there wasn’t enough information out there yet and presenting on a subject too early can spread inaccurate information fast, so I appreciate the greater overview of the situation in this video as well as the research clearly put into it. Looking forward to updates. Thank you.
@JiaPia3
@JiaPia3 9 месяцев назад
I actually saw a comment saying something like “Were you sleeping with your girlfriend while I couldn’t sleep because I was thinking about you?”or something like that. Whoa. That’s really a lot. How are you not gonna sleep over a celebrity who doesn’t know you? That is your health. And he is almost 30..
@antiromantic618
@antiromantic618 9 месяцев назад
Bro- Kcarats need to chill 😭😭 leave Joshua alone like it’s just a rumour no need to go over the top. Like stop being dulu and let him date whoever he wants to date, it’s his life he’s an adult he can date whoever he likes.
@KVN.M00N
@KVN.M00N 9 месяцев назад
WE MUST PROTECT SHUA!! Like these so called fans are more interested in his life than their's 💀it aint none of our business if Joshua or any member from Svt dates!! Most of the members are in their late 20's!! Ppl be acting as if they own svt :/ #ProctectJoshua
@blissgrace09
@blissgrace09 9 месяцев назад
True fans will always support him no matter what...uh don't understand you should love him for being himself not what you want him to be..I will always support him no matter what❤
@tugce1240
@tugce1240 9 месяцев назад
I am so happy for them
@valorie444
@valorie444 9 месяцев назад
hope they are dating to piss people off boycotting normal human needs (love) is insane, well at least joshua can get rid of fake fans in a way.
@aking4814
@aking4814 9 месяцев назад
Anyways vote Seventeen for VMA best kpop. Don’t let this go over your heads.
@racheljoycejayme6928
@racheljoycejayme6928 9 месяцев назад
We all love you! I hope this wont affect you. Everything will be fine. God is good.
@Br3nda2607
@Br3nda2607 5 месяцев назад
Every fan that is not crazy needs to come together and show support for their idol! They have a right to a personal life!!
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