The Mistreatment Of Seventeen Needs To Stop 

Seventeen LITERALLY can start a whole label under there name like-

seventeen is a self made group. literally. they stood at the very bottom and built themselves up to the top. now they’re in the top 5 most successful group. pledis don’t deserve any credit for that at all.

Seventeen is a group everyone knows but not a group everyone understand

Pledis is terrible with or without HYBE. They just got lucky with their artists.

when s.coups said " don't come " I felt a horrible pain in my heart, poor boys, such a horrible company does not deserve such talented boys

I remember watching a vid of woozi saying he's depressed and worried what if he won't be able to write good songs for the members anymore They created themselves and worked hard, all the money and fame pledis gained is just theirs I hate it when I see great people like them suffering

i remember when woozi said that when he was a trainee he asked his friends that were training in the different companies about their experience when they were training and he realizes that pledis is an evil company

Just wanna point out how thankful I am that Seventeen has Coups as a leader. He goes to every company meeting that has to do with his group, he would list out the groups needs and take them to the company himself, always put the members before the company, literally starting at the age of 18 or younger. I can't imagine the burden he felt with his responsibilities but he never let it show. Also wanna say I was a fan of Seventeen since 17tv in 2013 and those 2 years until 2015 were so difficult. Please give these boys a lot of love they deserve the world

i haven’t stan svt yet but mistreating artist is just so disgusting and so sad

pledis is so glad that none of the members didn’t file lawsuits or anything above that pledis should be kissing the ground where seventeen and nuest and after school and pristin is walking because without them they wouldn’t be here

the hybe fans in the comments saying that ‘everything will be okay now!!’ you guys PLEASE stop this delusion. the kbs incident was literally after the acquisition. please stop bringing up bts and bang pd and just appreciate the hardships that seventeen and many other groups (yes including bts!) have gone through

Pledis doesn't deserve seventeen.....

i love seventeen so much, been a fan for years.. can’t believe i’m finding out about most of these now.. it’s so upsetting..

Seventeen is a perfect example of rags to riches. They got to where they are all by themselves through hard work. The boys are so humble and grounded, honestly, they deserve so much more. At this point, Pledis still exists because of Seventeen.

Seventeen, Nuest, After School and Pristin... they deserve better WTF

I saw a lot of people even outside the fandom saying that Seventeen is a perfect group and the only thing they lack is their company. But still Seventeen love their staffs so much. And I think these days pledis is doing a little bit better than before. How I wish S.Coups will build their own company when their contract with pledis expires>

At this point,we just need S.COUPS ENT

I don't have anymore reasons not to hate KBS or dispatch

The fact that Seventeen did it all almost by themselves, they deserve mad respect!

SEVENTEEN is literally kpop at its best, the choreography, discography, and stage presence literally everyone sleeps on them because of their poor marketing management, they deserve sm better

its weird that pledis always mistreats them but all of the sudden while they were in quarantine,pledis gave all of them ipad pros and snacks so they wouldn't be bored. i'm not a company stan but i think pledis is a bit ok with their treatment nowadays but ya it wouldn't change the fact that pledis isn't giving proper promotions for solo activities like DK's musical and jun's solo song

I remember when one of the variety shows producer (i forgot which kshow) talked about Seventeen’s Seungkwan reaching out to any producers he saw at the spot and ask them to call Seventeen to guests in their show in the future. I literally cried listening to the story because it’s supposed to be the management duty. My babies have been doing everything themselves 🥺

I’d say forget Pledis and we have S.Coups entertainment

They never show us their sad side is what makes them one of a kind group. Plus after saving their company and being mismanaged by them they are still humble..inspite having the power to shut pledis down they concentrate on their fandom their music and friendship is what makes them SEVENTEEN.

181102 Dispatch Interview Seungcheol: One member said this in an interview, “For 2 years, we lived like we were going to debut the next month.”

Seventeen's contract will end next year, let's hope they will stay together and go to a better label. Like Psy's or maybe BigHit/Hybe. They gonna have to buy the rights to their group name, but given how much hardship they had to endure without support, they're probably prepared to do that. Correction: They are technically already under Hybe since Hybe purchased Pledis ent., but the sub-labels are still independent from Hybe except for finances. Edit2: They renewed their contract with Pledis, so let's hope the label will treat them right this time.

Now I understand why Carat always say that Seventeen is the best self produced group, and they are right. I'm so amazed and blown up.

They were so young when they started as trainees, the videos from back then they look like children. They have endured this for such a long time.

wow, kpop channel posting about seventeen? jk, but yeah, I hope svt will be fine. though, something tells me that pledis knows the power of the fandom; we can be hella scary if they harm the boys even a bit, so I think pledis and hybe are treating them... well (of course, there are some flaws) and the facts you've stated were years before, so my hope is that the boys are okay NOW. we'll... see what happens in the future

Being KPop idols can definitely be unglamorous and this is one example. Fans and the media need to speak up and support their idols 🙌💯

if they can’t even afford in-ear earphones for the boys, imagine wtf they didn’t provide for them😕

The only reason why seventeen is successful is that they DO EVERYTHING BY THEMSELVES. Hoshi once revealed the reason why he has to be strict to the member during trainee time for the dance practice. 'The company did'nt do it so i have to do it'. Woozi composed most of the songs, and also there is SCOUPS joining every important meeting and confront the company whenever needed to make sure the decision made is good for the group. Despite all these mistreatment SVT is still grateful towards to company, that is why they are SUCCESSFUL.

seungcheol saying “Don’t come” literally made me choke up wtf is wrong with Pledis

But even though they didnt have in ear monitors they were able to sing on point which is impressive

just a friendly reminder a lot of this info is from 5-6years ago. Lets not stir up negative resentment, especially with svt resigning with pledis, as that could put pressure on the boys for re-signing. Also, from the present stealing issues, a lot of staff and management was changed in pledis. Not saying pledis is a saint, but the company seems to try to at least do better than other companies. especially how they went about with the whole bullying scandals that were going around.

It's funny how some big channel finally chose to talk about Seventeen and their mistreatment just a day before Seventeen re-signs their contract again🙂🙃

It's concerning and disgusting that a talented hard working K-pop group 💜 💕 💓 like Seventeen they became successful on their own. Pedius needs to treat these sweet young men Better. What's so disturbing that Pedis also needs to do a better job protecting these boys from Saseangs and mean malicious comments from Anti Fans as well

Seventeen has gone through alot to been where they are now The literally perfect . Pledis needs to stop mistreating idols they are humans to you know

"People succeed when other's say (or do) negative things." - Jin 'til the last say the name, i will always support you thirteen!

Seventeen is a self-made idols. For the past years Pledis has been going down but because of SVT they survived. Carats know this issue even before and I'm happy that everyone's seeing this now

It's always either the managers or the staffs or the saesangs or the puplic and nitizens At this point I believe all idols are mistreated, you'll never find a kpop band respected or appreciated by all

The way SVT keep smiling and making us smile with all these things going on with them is literally amazing...hats off

I recently became a fan of Seventeen (baby Carat here) and am soaking up everything I can about them. It makes me cry hearing that those 13 great guys went through this. They deserve the world. Absolutely am loving every single one of them and I've developed a mama bear protective complex when it comes to them. Don't mess with them!

watching this one year later, thinking of what hoshi recently said in a video, confessing his love for the company. he was indeed drunk. it was quite a shock to me, because, after what pledis did to them in the past years, he would just randomly be honest and show his appreciation towards pledis entertainment. what i like is that the relationship ship between them and the staff (i think mostly "gose" editors and the cameraman's) is quite good. and now i am even better, bacause it's been almost one year since their decision to renew their contracts. it truly means that they work well as a group and family so i don't think their decision was pushed by the company. this is why seventeen are more of a self produced group

they are such talented, innovative and intellectual boys. i hate how pledis isn't even thankful to them. this company needs to get better, i swear-

Seventeen is not because of Pledis, Pledis is still here because of SEVENTEEN. More power to all 13 members of this lovely group they are such a sweetheart.

no group deserves this and especially seventeen. They are literally the warmest and most hardworking idols ever

When it comes to self producing idols seventeen is always on top and noone can change this fact. The only reason i stan seventeen is because of their talent. Seeing their own company mistreating them really hurts. The boys really deserves the world.🥺

Isn't is tough enough to be a idol itself..........having soo many hardships after even debuting its far beyond my expectations.......i am glad they made it here...don't know what would have other ppl done if they were in their places ...9t sad so much that even thinking bout it gives me shiver god bless all the hardworking ppl and bad ppl just die

I don't care how money-hungry a person can be. If they CAN'T treat their artists (the money makers), and in some cases, their staff, correctly, THEY SHOULD NOT HIRE THEM OR CREATE A COMPANY.

Life update: SEVENTEEN RENEW THEIR CONTRACT. Better treatment pls. 🥺

Im not a seventeen fan but this seriously needs to stop ... And there was me till today who thought seventeen is a well privileged group More people SHOULD know about all this and now I'm surely gonna support the boys :')

The fact that I thought that pledis is a better company 😭😭

I hate it when any k pop idol or group get mistreated. It so disgusting of the company.😩😣😣

They literally re-signed their contracts today ksksksks

i don’t stan svt, i barely know anything about them, but i’m so proud of them. getting mistreated by your own company sucks, it’s something you can’t escape easily. and seeing them still succeed and have so many supporters makes me happy :)

and i thought pledis was better than other agencies

Tbh I never wanted a group excluding GOT7 to leave their own company and go on their own ways I know that seventeens contract is ending next year I hope they don't renew the contract and join some other company as a whole group because these boys have gone through so much and are so talented and one of the best boy groups out there they deserve much more than this they're so perious I hope they'll finally get the happiness they deserve

Yet after all this- Hoshi cries while saying how much he loves pledis- they don’t deserve these boys 😭

I came here after watching Hoshi's drunk talkshow saying he love his agency so much. I still felt that PLEDIS is not one of the best agency, but of course, we're only fans and we're not the one who experience all of what they gone thru.

S.COUPS saying “dont come” gives me chills, i feel so bad for these boys, they have done so much and all Pledis did was make their life and career horrible, though the manger sold his house to allow them to debut, which i feel a bit better about. My heart and best wishes go out to Seventeen, i cant believe those certain people would follow them about and even follow them to their dorm\hotel. That is way to far. But im so happy i found them and that they love each other so much they have still stuck together after quite a while. I hope and wish that pledis would do something good for them.

They must be getting treated better now though since they resigned their contracts and Hoshi cried when he got drunk and said he loves Pledis? So I’m guessing all the terrible staff are long gone and most of this mistreatment was during their earlier years otherwise idk why he would say he loves the company and they all agreed to resign.

watching this after Hoshi cried at youngji's show saying that he loves Pledis so much doesnt make sense..

Okay, but remember in the early days of seventeen pledis discredited performance unit (jun, minghao, and dino) by not mentioning them as the choreographers of the dances so that the company didn't have to pay them even though they contributed ideas along with hoshi and the choreographer team?

Let's go S.Coups entertainment.

pledis is literally known for mismanagement and mistreatment but they never change, they’re lucky their artist are such hardworker. pledis doesn’t deserve seventeen and any of their artists

lmao now that hoshi says he loves pledis things are getting a bit confusing🥂🧍‍♂️

i remember watching something recently when a member said 'we say sorry for everything'

i don't stan but svt def has gone through so much. mis behaviour towards already struggling rookies is so wrong:( good that svt are successful now

I love Svt since 2015 and through the years it's getting not even better.It really breaks my heart to see them suffering 💔. Pledis really cross the line with the mistreatment of their Artist's who deserve better.😑

Vernon didn’t let his own sister join, that should also say alotttt

As im a new carat, i didnt know much about svt's past and i believed this for a few days but after coming back from watching GoSe eps, i really think that some of the comments by some carats were right like how pledis is changing to the better and them and their staff's bond is good as of right now

It's things like this that make me extremely concerned when Hoshi talks about how much he loves Pledis...

They're seriously one of the ace kpop groups. I didn't know they went through so many hardships but im so happy to see them make it this far and I hope they only go up from here 😭😭😭😭💘💘

They really said things about Seungkwan's weight?! Wtf and people followed them around I hope they are treated better now and will be treated better in the future!

they're the best example of a self-made/produced group

I got so much angry when I heard about how a staff hit suengkwan on the head omg seventeen is the best self made group out there.

Every Kpop Idols doesn't deserve So much hates & Disrespects without no reason. They works so hard just for us. We all should Respect & Love Kpop's every Idols. I'm feeling so bad for Seventeen 😭😭😭

they're too good to be treated like this :( i mean NO ONE deserves to be treated this way, but they deserve special respect for all they do. aah they deserve the world

Seventeen literally did everything themselves, with Woozi producing the songs & the performance team members coming up with the choreography, the company didn't help much & Pledis is on the brink of bankruptcy at the time of their debut, but seventeen's success & earnings saved the whole company. After all the shit they went through together, it makes the bonds between the members so close. Even though I'm happy that all 13 of them stuck together after so many years, I feel that they should've just opened their own labels instead. Still a proud carat here of their achievements & hopefully they continue to shine & stay together as long as possible. 💎

Seventeen is literally one of the best group in the world.Proud of my boys going through all these things they still managed to shine and make our lifes better.STAN SEVENTEEN FOR BETTER LIFE.🙇

Haha the only one that deserves rights in pledis higher ups is BSJ (Vice Pres). Thank you for emphasizing how much he risked for SVT's debut. He is also a lot closer to the members than their CEO. In the show SVT club, you can see S. COUPS freely talking to their Vice Pres about his insights and his demands for the team. He is one strong presence in svt's success.

Im thankful that Seventeen renew their contract😊 i see that pledis is trying to give better treatment and i hope it will continue true years. And i hope they promote more seventeen's member individual project.

Seventeen deserves an apology you know what not even an apology will be enough, they are one the most hardworking groups out there, they work hard to make music for carats and put so much of their time making it, I think that SVT deserves respect for everything they’ve been through, + when people sometimes say that carats are not a very active fandom we are we just focus on our boys happiness and health and try not to get involved with things that may hurt our boys. Fighting seventeen (And all Kpop groups in general have their fair share of hard times let’s respect them! If you don’t like them just don’t pay attention to them there is no need to hate just because they’re “not your style” )

at this point, seventeen was never under pledis.. they managed themselves . pledis never played any specific role as an entertainment company for seventeen. pledis doesn't even have well - mannered staff. seventeen is self made band. pledis is just a tag behind the band.

Majority of the issues that were mentioned in this video are all in the past. I’m not sure if there’s still any mistreatment going on but if there is why would all 13 members renew their contract with Pledis. To me it’s not logical to renew a contract with an agency that mistreat their artists. What will the artist benefit from the agency? One thing that Pledis did handle well this year was investigating and resolving the bully scandal and we do have to give them credit for that. Anyways join the fandom.

This is why they deserve all the success and love that they are experiencing and receiving.❤️

it's terrible, but work mistreatment by companies is everywhere and in every industry. glad SVT endured and succeeded through the hardship

I'm glad that seventeen was treated good in variety shows and their juniors and seniors respect them as a group

Seventeen is so talented . Noone can deny that

Giving the fact that they all renewed their contracts and said on knowing bros that the negotiations were brutal because they knew their worth is a good sign indicating the boys have some control and power over the company now

I'm not even a carat but seventeen doesn't deserve this kind of treatment

I’m grateful, our current seventeen members didn’t give up and kept going to reach their goals even they went through lots of difficult challenges and problems. Stan SVT, they’re strong.

The staff back then were very horrible to them :/ even the staffs in their pre debut days

no because literally these boys are so talented they need to be treated much better they could even make their own entertainment and would be capable of it

I thanked the channel for stating about misstreatments to seventeen in the past, but it was an old song. I think it's better to not digging it again, because it was so painful for the members, the fans, and the company itself. About that earphones thing, that was because Pledis was on the edge of bankcrupty, and that's not their fault. It was just unfortunity. Pledis made a lot of mistake, and sometimes they need some "slap" from their artist's fans, but actually they're kinda nice. Pledis is getting better these days. Of course Carats would know that just by looking at how they handle mingyu's case, and the last one, dokyeom's misstreatment issue (they might not be releasing any statement, but just based on how they actively posts dokyeom's musical promotions after that protest, i'm sure pledis tried to listen to Carats and fixed that mistake). Plus, nuest and seventeen members decided to renew their contract so pledis must be nicer these days.

This honestly hurts to watch 😭

I don't stan them but this legit makes me go mad! what kind of agencies does that? these boys do not deserve such unfair treatment. If I knew that behind all of those countless music videos and songs (Especially Thank you, itsa Masterpiece) lied hardwork that they did on their own and under such pressure, I would have stanned them earlier... it's not too late to do so now, right?

pledis gives me the same vibes as ts entertainment. ts entertainment once had a boy group named trcng. trcng debuted in 2017 with 10 members. they were mistreated so badly. they were beaten up by the staff with metal chairs and toothbrushes (the members were seen with bruises). their living conditions were beyond terrible. 10 members had to live in this tiny apartment (it had two floors, a bottom and a top floor but the top floor was just a closet and one bedroom.). im pretty sure they only had one bathroom too. one day, their toilet broke down but instead of ts entertainment fixing it, they cussed out trcng and a trcng member had to call his mom to fix it. the apartment was seen with holes in the floor, bare cement on the floor in some places instead of wood, and cracks in the wall. ts staff would also get drunk and verbally abuse the members by text. ts entertainment also didn’t pay the bills on time. ts would wait until the last notice to finally pay the bills. one day, they didnt pay the bills so the lights in the apartment turned off. since korea is cold, a lot of the members caught colds and the flu. instead of ts entertainment sending them to the hospital and paying for the hospital bills, trcng members PARENTS had to pay for it. even though the members were sick, ts entertainment still made them perform. the members had to huddle together surrounded by their belongings so they wouldn’t die of cold. (the heater wouldn’t work properly). the ceo of ts entertainment also made the members sort out his nike shoes (the ceo sold the shoes) and put lables on them. (basically using the members to do his personal work) they were abused mentally, physically, emotionally, and financially. trcng disbanded this year. you know its sad when the word disband is a good word.

I‘m always stunned by their positive energy and passion and terrified by the thought of what they had to go through already. Let’s stay by their side CARATs and support them no matter what 🥺💚💜