What's the Closest Anyone Has Come to a Real Truth Serum? 

It's Navaron the last e is silent but makes the o pronounced.

Video starts at 1:29

_"Just because you're paranoid it doesn't mean they're not out to get you"_ 😉

This is such a dumb statement, obviously "paranoid" isn't used in a derogatory manner. After what happened, he WAS paranoid. There's no way around that. Look up the definition and quit your bitching

​@@Rachel_M_ also phrased as, "Even paranoids have enemies."

​@Hercules Shakespeare more often than not, it's those around them who pay the price

Wish they'd set me up with free hallucinogens

And now an excuse used by deflecting drunkards to sweep the truth about domestic violence and child abuse under the carpet. Where exactly is the so-called solution again? Their just perpetuating a cycle using deflecting statements.

@@thomaseddyson362 Chill, it was a joke.

It's great against motion sickness though. Most boats have it aboard for sea sickness and even astronauts have the option of taking it for launch day. Takes a bit for the digestion to adapt to freefall. About 60% of people barf once the engines turn off. Especially now they occasionally send up "civilians". But they've been handling orbit quite well even without years of training so that bodes well for average Joe's one day having a space job. The moon base will need plumbers eventually.

And WY-kee-KEE (not wy-KEE-KEE, or whatever it was he said)

@Crangaso Yeah; while the way he said it may be grammatically correct as a Spanish word, I've only ever heard it pronounced as having a silent 'e' at the end, going back to the mid-1960s...

Not impossible to be emotionally distant during the time of bonding and perhaps some underlaying psychological reasons prior pregnancy, could have effected her so much that it perhaps felt as someone else giving birth and being altered emotionally during the "sleep "

@@shannon6876 interesting, thank you for sharing your thoughts

​​​​​@@shannon6876 I've known some who seem to start believing their own lies. At least it looks like that and they will make you question your sanity before admitting it despite being presented wirh evidence. They convince you that you are delusional or misremember things. I used to sometimes record conversations just to reassure myself I didn't imagine it. That worked a treat but then you're accused of all sorts of stuff. Best to avoid these people. At all cost. Fk em. They can be a professionals problem who is paid to listen to that garbage. Had the pleasure of knowing one of the narcissistic variety and one flavoured bipolar. Lovely people. My life feels so simple not having them in my life anymore. So straightforward haha.I don't get lying other than to escape trouble... it's rarely not caught eventually and I couldn't possibly remember what I said to someone last week. It would be exhausting. Just don't answer. If I don't want to say I shrug and make some uncommitted grunting sound. It may be interpreted as is seen fit. Just make a face... most people laugh and forget the question or they understand. No comment. And then there is the wonderfully elegant solution of admitting you're wrong and apologising. Not hard. 99% of people are willing to forgive if you admit it. Depends on what of course, I don't mean criminal things.

Its a deliriant, meaning you cant tell hallucinations from reality or if the things you do make any sense

Imagine questioning a suspect on where they were and they say, "with your mom" and then you remember that you just gave them a real truth serum. Ouch.

They are called Mamona here in Brasil and i had no idea this plant could have such an effect. From my parents i know they used to play with it when theyvwrre children by throwing around the dry, very spiky, "fruit" as a prank as it's suposedly very painfull and when i was little i was warned that is was higly poisonous but no one ever told me that mamonas (gypsum weed) were also allucinogenics.

It was featured on BBCs QI. It was more the observation that, if you got a woman you believe to be a spy pregnant, the way to find out if they are not native to that country is to st in on the birth. There had been an observation that upon experiencing the pain of the birth, it was impossible for the woman not to revert back to her native tongue when expressing feelings of pain.

That is also a plot point in "Seventeen Moments of Spring".

*per se

Yes yes YES such a shame not to credit Albert Hofmann (he of bicycle day) as its inventor instead of some nameless corporation or wahtever

I think it was Antman

@@Mama-eu1ss yep just checked and you're right. The scene is also a good example of getting too much information 😂🤣

Toucher?

@Cancer McAids Oh torture. Well it certainly works, assuming the requested information is immediately testable, and the subject knows it.

Thank you for your insight

Very interesting

So Sir, I suppose then the government no doubt employs anesthesiologists to employ the same skills as those which you possess. However, those whom work for our government have a different purpose as yourself and surely have different set of ethical standards as yourself. Having worked for one of the No Such Agencies while in the US Army I can assure you that your government. Lies to the public each and every day. 100% of their purpose is to empower themselves (the Agencies) they do not answer to the courts, the open government entities we pretend to be the.guys in white hats, congress or the president. Simply put maybe 40% of their efforts are forwarded and offered as what is accurate as this info is only offered to keep their Cash coming yearly, the other 60% is used to empower these Agencies unto themselves... Only. I assure you the us government use Any and All chemicals as needed on a daily basis to keep the government functioning... without any medically ethical standards as those used by yourselves in your higher medical standards. Their purpose is different therefore their ethics are totally different as they answer to a different call and as used in your eyes would not be ethical, yet to themselves this is purpose for which they exist so therefore totally ethical in their own eyes. Thank you Sir, for fighting the good fight !!

I worked in the pharmaceutical field for quite awhile. I'm not particularly familiar with the actual administration of drugs to patients, but I know my psychopharmacology and pharmacodynamics like the back of my hand. Barbiturates are well known to reduce inhibitions, even just basic maintenance dosages of Butalbital or Phenobarbital have been implicated in numerous examples of patients saying things they shouldn't to their family, coworkers, boss, etc... However spy agencies and the like have methods for training resistance to narco-analysis (most often employing Barbiturates). They also teach agents/assets to be familiar with alcohol and resistant to prying questions under it's influence. The Scopolamine is a bit more intriguing/disturbing. Because it's a pretty potent anticholinergic and antimuscarinic drug it can easily cause hallucinations and outright delusions at high dosages, which interrogations would likely require. At these dosages it's a deliriant, often causing extremely vivid and realistic delusions (way beyond most hallucinogens, stuff like smoking phantom cigarettes or having full conversations with people that don't exist). It's pharmacology related to drugs like BZ, and other Tropane alkaloid deliriants (Think Angel's Trumpet, Jimson Weed, etc...). These delusions tend to be of an often persecutorial and paranoid nature too (like seeing demons and stuff). Plus combining it with nicotine or caffeine would reduce/attenuate it's effect. While mixing it with amphetamine, or even worse cocaine, would be fairly dangerous for the heart and likely increase the chance of seeing life-threatening side effects.

As a thought experiment though, I've always wondered if these deliriant drugs could be used in interrogations if their horrifying delusional effects were learned into instead of avoided. I doubt traditional narco-analysis resistance training would work so well against such a use. Imagine this, the spy/subject is first given Scopolamine/Hyoscyamine or BZ, along with LSD. Once they're experiencing full-blown paranoid delusions and seeing demons, the interrogator has "actors" start trying to convince the spy/subject they're in Hell or something similar depending on subject's religious affiliation or likely upbringing. Then the interrogator administers a drug like MDMA which encourages trust and likely reduces some of the persecutorial delusions while still being hallucinogenic (yes as a substituted amphetamine it'd still be dangerous). The interrogator then reveals themselves and "wards off" the other actors/demons. They tell the spy/subject that they are a savior/angel (alter for subject's beliefs) but that they MUST confess everything to be saved/rescued, otherwise they go back with the demons(actors) for eternity. Who knows, it MIGHT work, though obviously the interrogator would need a VERY corrupted sense of morals and medical ethics to ever actually do such an interrogation. Maybe I'll write a spy fiction book/film with this someday.

Agreed. I've smoked weed almost every day since the 90s and trip occasionally, and often wish I could have a "first time experience" again, partially due to how naive I was- in general and specifically to those substances. Reflecting on those experiences now, I don't think I would have been as susceptible as described in this video, but I'm talking about one single hit of acid or several pop can pipes in the woods, not a massive dose by any means.

the point was to program people without them knowing.

I've read a bit on the program and to the best of my recollection the answer is no they didn't. They weren't exactly scientific in their approach even though they probably thought they were and an unknown number were spiked, sometimes just to be observed through one way mirrors, in an extremely callous approach to those affected. The UK military carried out more controlled experiments at Porton Down and soon concluded it had no practical use, only a small number of unsuspecting soldiers affected.

​@Typical.Anomaly there is nothing quite like having just gone through hell by going out a 6th story window onto an old disused fire escape. Sl8dding the window shut behind you and having to climb down the sides of it and finally drop the last 15 ft onto a 1st story roof into the bushes on 775ug lsd and then run accross campus as the sirens are comming louder and louder and get to your dorm room and hunker down and then have the cops come 3 hours later to ask you about your involvement with a guy who had stripped naked and ran around his dorm building and fought security with a bong and whipped cream dispenser. I mean I was there. But he stole my whole sheet of acid and when I called him on it he ate over 4200ug or 42 blottets the rest of my 50 sheet. I had to fight my kind to stay calm and not show any duress. My pupils were still massive and I was actively seeing visuals and feeling like I was being dragged down into myself by myself. But I held strong and was let go after 15 minutes

I would formally like to volunteer to find out 😂 I've done my fair share of...."truth serums"

I've told a lot of bs stories while drunk in a bar

@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan If only my life were as grand as I said it was at the bottom of a bottle lol

I quit drinking because I realized how full of shit I become!

@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan I ran into a guy like that after a deployment while home on leave. A class mate that was still in his MOS school talking about how he killed a bunch of people. Walked out, never went back to a bar or had a drop of booze. I was drinking to kill myself at the time and hearing someone who had never been in a sh*t sandwich really woke me up and snapped me out of it. Funny how a stupid drunk can change your outlook on life. Not sure what happened to that guy. Hope he found reality.

Anybody who thinks alcohol reveals truth has never met an actual alcoholic.

Glad I'm not the only one 🤣

Now, I know what's in the Kool-aid that Trump gives all his MAGA cult 'followers...oxytocin! Only This can explain why MAGAs are So Willing to give their Orange Grifter vast sums of their money without question so that he can continue to buy 3rd rate lawyers to defend himself, and to live in luxury, without anyone the wiser.

Sure, if you are willing to roll the dice on permanent brain damage, violent halucinations, and that kind of thing then yeah "Twilight Sleep" was a great program.

The video said that people can overcome most serums with enough prep time, so amnesia wouldn’t help if they’ve mentally prepared themselves for interrogation and already have a fake story ready to go.

Benzos could work for that. Z drugs too. I never remembered what I did before falling asleep when taking ambien.

Well, it starts with a fuck off big team, which never seems to get any credit.

Works for a Czech MCN 😂

Very simple. Most of the scripts are other people's scripts that he pays for. Karl Smallwood of Fact Fiend wrote a few episodes as well. That is how. Simon is a presenter, and I doubt he writes any of the scripts himself. This is not deriding Simon, he is an entertaining presenter.

cocaine and 300 year old wine.

I agree...I fkn hate planes. At least of I'm on a hallucinogen I don't care anymore 😂

I can hear Simon laughing and saying that in my head. You just made it happen. "....hahaFuckingLegendhhaha...!"

@@marcalvarez4890 yeah same!

It's ok. You can say aluminum. It was first called aluminum, then changed to aluminium to suit elitist jerks.

@@patg14 totally not the point of my comment, but thanks. What I was trying to convey is that, while watching this video, I heard the name sodium thiopental for the first time ever. All thru my life I've known it as sodium Pentothol, so I thought perhaps British English pronounces it differently, like the aluminum example I gave. But after looking it up I learned that sodium Pentothol is a trademarked name, and it's what's used in nearly every American TV and movie during the 20th century when they wanna get some answers outta someone. Hope this clears that up.

​@@patg14 it was actually first called alumium by Sir Humphry Davy, but aluminium by all his colleagues from the start, then he called it aluminum briefly, and finally agreed with his colleagues that aluminium was the best name. It isn't hard to google stuff, instead of just automatically attributing everything to some conspiracy theory nonsense lmao. What in the world would "elites" possibly give a shit whether it was aluminum or aluminium? That's such an obviously silly load of crock.

​@@patg14 Elitist jerks being the rest of the Non-US world like usual. Same elitists who ask, WTF is Fahrenheit? Are you German?

Ever been under the influence? Yes, you will tell the truth, but the problem is; if you're sufficiently inebriated it will be a very warped version of the truth. What do you suppose warped truth looks like? At best hyperbole, at worst blatant lies. That's why thus far we've not found a working compound. The types that cause inebriation create a hit and miss scenario. I mean you can take testimony from someone inebriated but you don't get to pick and choose. So if you wind up with a confession of crime but also testimony that the subject witnessed someone else commit the crime, one answer at a minimum is wrong. You don't get to put one version alone into a prosecution because the entire thing is unreliable. That's why chemical or torturous testimony is rubbish. They're both unreliable and the best way to question subjects is to form trust based relationships. Just ask the FBI about interrogation best practices. Oxytocin might be useful in helping form trust rapidly, but agent "Jack Bauer" has no place in modern interrogation techniques.

Set and setting, man! Set and setting! I'm due for a chemical vacation, myself, if you know what I mean. (I'm not "that guy", I'm just a fan of chemically-assisted living who enthusiastically agrees with your comment.)

Laced with his personal opinion.

So true!

Seen by whom, specifically?

"We prefer the term 'Assisted Involuntary Defenestration.' " -- MK Ultra Spin Doctors...Allegedly.

Cos he only talks for 3 minutes. Rest is advertising.

all he does is read stuff. other people do the work.

@@KarldorisLambley Facts lol

narration & komedy

"Sometimes a man will tell his bartender things he'll never tell his doctor." -- Dr. Boyce (John Hoyt) "The Cage."

A polite "Please" wouldn't go amiss, but yes, I agree.