What's The Most BRUTAL Thomas Fate? 

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One other brutal fate would be a severe boiler explosion.

The Grabber trying to hold Stepney up is a certified *spooky* moment.

An additional point on the "sinking" fate, the ghost engine mentioned by Rusty died in a river. So if we believe the story to be real, that means that in the event the engine didn't die on impact, engines can still drown like humans. Taking Salty into account, perhaps they can withstand longer under the water than humans can, but will still eventually die beneath the waves.

Tbf the most brutal fate is being in thomas & friends all engines go ☠️

1:35 I mean the reason why Derek broke down a lot, was simply because he is based on a class 17. Which were described as and I quote being the most unreliable diesel locomotives in British railways history. I do love how they implemented that into his character it’s another cool example of Thomas characters basis being the inspiration and leading towards their design. And it’s what is disappointing about some characters like Rosie

To be fair, melting is like a close relative to scrap. It’s what happens to their metal at the end of the scrapping process.

Honestly I’d say being abandoned or forgotten is the worst fate. Left to rust over tens, perhaps hundreds of years. That sounds like a 9th layer of hell, rotting away without being able to do anything

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I think Godred's fate of being salvaged for parts would be more horrifying then simply being scrapped, slowly loosing the essence of his being over time, and we have no idea when a sentient vehicle's consciousness would end.

TBH, the most brutal fate(s) are being exploded or vanishing into thin air, never to be seen again

I feel like the least brutal fate should be running behind schedule, and then breaking down should be just slightly above it. Both of these are just inconveniences, and unless the engine is owned by a particularly cruel company, the worst they’ll get is a telling off. But breaking down means that you would have to go to a repair yard, or if the company is cruel, they might just throw the thing away. While if something is simply running behind schedule, I’ll probably get another chance to prove itself tomorrow.

Being left to rot. A common misconception is that Henry was left to rot in the tunnel but if it was true it would be disturbing and agonising as you have to wait years until you can't take it anymore or something ends you. Hiro almost met this fate too. Along with the teapot engine: Glynn

Introducing real-life consequences like being scrapped to the RWS was a stroke of genius on the Reverend Awdrey's part: He loved trains and the railways, so looking at the British Rail scrapping hundreds of steam engines beginning in 1963, showing his characters dreading this fate created empathy and was a great way to spread awareness among his readers. Just one of many examples of real-life helping write the books.

Had to edit this video twice as the first version was too depressing ahah. So I gave it an arcade game aesthetic to make it more fun. What do you all think? 🎲🎰🕹️

That thumbnail is the definition of brutal

17:40 When Hurricane’s front wheels were melting, due to him saving Thomas from melting, had he died, I am sure he could’ve been sent to heaven, (only if engines could go there)

Another way to stop being a ghost is to give the body a proper funeral

Sinking is probably the biggest threat for sentient ships and boats, as things like the hull breaking or capsizing is a death sentence, especially when they are on a lake or the ocean, as they'll completely sink to the bottom and become lost. For cars, getting scrapped is especially brutal, at first their reusable parts are taken off, before what's left is crushed In a giant press

Too bad that later on in the show we see less and less of these brutal fates.

I thinking exploding in and of itself is the worst fate for any engine, maybe short of becoming a ghost. I mean, boiler explosions are the worst accidents to occur during the steam era. And regarding melting, I think that is made even worse if an engine is thrown into a smelting pit.

I have to say, some of these fates are really brutal when you think about it.. Also I love this video game aesthetic in this video. I would love to see more of this in future videos.

Fate #8: Sinking Fate #1: becoming a ghost My brain, immediately: *thinking of The Horrors of Hawin Lake*

I'm surprised you didn't mention Hiro in your "forgotten" part. Being forgotten would be bad enough, but imagine being forgotten while far away from your native homeland? Meanwhile with Duke, he at least got to have a snooze while trapped in his shed, so it was almost like no time had passed for him, while it's implied Hiro was awake for most of his time missing. Plus, he was missing since the construction of Sodor's mainline (early 1900's to presumably the 1960's), while Duke was only missing for about 20 years.

I feel like being cannibalized is the worst fate. It is physical, mental, and emotional. It would be painful, not quick, a combination of being repurposed, scrapped, and forgotten. think of Godred’s full fate (if you believe Culdee’s story).

Certainly, a good way to dive deep into the darker ends of the Thomas franchise. I think that getting scrapped is probably the most feared fate the engines have, but you do have a point that melting or becoming a ghost are much more brutal.

even as a kid back in the early 2000's i thought the scrapyard was dark, just seeing all those DEAD train kinda made me wander

9:45 I can imagine the other mountain engines are deeply traumatized at the fact there wearing the remains of a dead guy.

The episode where rheneas almost tore himself apart just to get his passengers home scared me as a kid. It was the ominous music, that did NOT belong in a kids show.

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I don't wish to detract from the potential mental impact of being forgotten in other scenarios, but wasn't Duke genuinely asleep until he was discovered? I don't think he would have been able to suffer much in the way of mental anguish if he was just asleep the whole time.

Salty: I love the sea but not to the point where I want to be sleeping with the fishes

Those 8-bit transitions are so cool! Did you make them yourself?

Fortunately not included in the franchise (due to how horrific it would be,) but a boiler explosion would be excruciatingly brutal. The poor engine blown to smithereens and the crew boiled. The remains of the engine would be scrapped, and the crew would have little chance of surviving their injuries. A truly heartbreaking fate.

Explosions are possibly a very dangerous fate, a vehicle can explode when it overheats or failed. It could kill everyone, even the vehicles.

In Victor tanzigs stories of sodor There is something called a final firing where a chemical agent called black is introduced to an engine’s system Which sadly causes them to pass Then the engine is scrapped Like Adam 😢

Thomas and friends is like Pokémon. It’s a cute, charming world and story, but if you think about it too hard it’s absolutely fucked up and wrong. I mean we got the sentient vehicle slavery and the supernatural animal fighting rings, damn.

Scrap is a fear unlike any other threat to our precious engines

having the fat controller give a stern look and say "you have caused confusion and delay"

In 17:35 did he forgot about the time in TATMR When Diesel 10 almost made James and jr Being burned alive in A hot steaming furnace because there was a scene where James was on the edge to falling off but luckily Junior had some gold dust that he was going to give to Lily with him not to mention Journey beyond sodor it was just hurricanes wheels that were being melted and he was melting very slowly so literally any time and engine can come over and see them But in tatmr if James fell in the furnace he wouldn’t melt in their very quickly so in my opinion TATMR Smelters yard scene is the most brutal fate that we could’ve Saw

"The spiteful brake van met his end when he got SMASHED by Douglas" 💀💀💀💀 I'm dying rn lol 13:52

I'm surprised you didn't talk about boiler explosions considering that was often a fate of steam engines despite not being seen in Thomas, it. Is referred to a lot of times

Being trapped as a ghost never at rest is the worst.

Being scrapped it’s the most scariest fate of all time and melting.

I had no idea that Thomas the Tank Engine Lore could be so fascinating. I’ve spent 3 hours sorting through the garage and various cupboards in my home listening to your videos.

Salty- "time to disobey the laws of physics"

When you showed the picture of the tender engine underwater, I had to turn my head away each time. I couldn't bare to look at it

I Think the most brutal was probably the engines from the other railway in the RWS. Darkest thing I've ever seen in a Show about Talking Trains doing Jobs for a Fat Man.

Honestly, despite that it’s aimed at younger audiences, I don’t think little kids should watch classic Thomas. A lot of the episodes are quite dark and it might traumatize them. Just looking back at those as an adult, those moments are quite traumatizing. They can at least have an adult watch it with them!

I had a feeling that Smudger, Stanley, Scruffy, The Spiteful Brakevan and Godred were going to be in this video... It's so convenient that "Toad stands by" was going to be shown in this video that I drew this episode some days ago.😊 I'm still triggered to this day of wondering how Salty was able to survive being miles down underwater from night to morning in "Steam Team to the rescue"... "Blue Mountain Mystery" did show the seriousness of feeling guilty for thinking you killed someone by accident as Luke found out. Hurricane getting his wheels melted in "Journey beyond Sodor" was 1 dreadful way of an engine to die... 1 of the most heartbreaking ways of engines being scraped would be in "Tenders for Henry" when Gordon finds out his LNER family except for Flying Scotsman are all dead. Duke wasn't the only character to be forgotten for years. We have Hiro, Glynn, Old Slow Coach and Dexter. You could've added exploding for a brutal fate for engines. Examples like "Rusty and the Boulder", "Thomas, Percy and Old Slow Coach" and "The Great race", Boulder blows up a shed next to Percy, James' fuel tanker train catches fire, and Gordon without his safety valve has his boiler explode which could've killed him from the inside. Buried would've been brutal. Percy got buried alive by coal in "Put Upon Percy" and Skarloey got buried by a snow avalanche and some slate trucks in "Snow". Freezing would be harsh such as in "Jack Frost" for Percy and Terence on an ice lake in "Terence breaks the ice".

Fact check for Rheneas operating the Skarloey Railway by himself. When his valve gear jammed while pulling a passenger train, he pressed on because of the threat of the railway closing down. Skarloey, the namesake engine on this railway, also broke down pulling a passenger train. But where Rheneas felt he *had* to press on, Skarloey *wanted* to. Even though with Skarloey there was no threat of closing down.

Just brilliant video man, a question we were all thinking of but never thought to ask lol

Man this was epic! This was a amazing theory! Amazing Job! i love the editing!

Great music choices!!!! Would've never expected them in a Thomas video.

This gave me goosebumps! Fantastic video! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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A big reason for the brutality was the authors opinion on the needless nature of the 1955 Modernization Plan and then the Beeching Cuts, where all steam engines were scrapped for Diesel and Electric engines, and then most of the lines were eliminated after that failed to turn the system around.

My favorite part of this video is definitely the topics of being repurposed because I remember seeing videos and blogs about having express coaches and cabooses being refurbished into motel rooms or even house for people to say in. Sometimes whenever I think about it, I always wonder how would the rolling stock characters in the Thomas universe behave whenever people making loud noises inside of them.

Great video and it’s so cool how you made the video kind of like a video game

The ghost fate is very deadly because there’s some ghost engines that we know about but luckily they got defeated

I don't know if this counts as "forgotten", but in Season Five, Scruffy again has another terrible fate. While it isn't confirmed, his face appears on a truck sent hurtling down into a mine. Which promptly collapses. Meaning, there are trucks stuck down in a collapsed mine, unsure if they are going to be rescued (because they are trucks). At least Duke had a chance of being rescued. No one is going to want to save a truck stuck 300 feet underground.

Plot twist: What if Rheneas crashed beyond repair at Blue Mountain Quarry in BMM?

11:00 I reckon Duke and Aurora (of the Azran) would be able to bond over being buried for years on end.

If a Thomas video crossovered with Pacman

Nice update to this video the arcade-like sprites were very good.

Another locomotive in the ghost category that wasn’t necessarily in the main franchise, but more of a fan made one. Is the infamous No. 0, Timothy.

The amount of casual murder. The show is pretty dark in parts looking back now

Spooky as a ghost is the fearful they represent the vehicles that had bad accidents beyond damage.

I wish duke wasn’t abandoned in the shed he chose to sleep for all the 20 years

As a train enthusiast; i think replacement due to increasing technology is a grim fate and inevitable. Imagine learning the mainland has developed a new engine like the GE AC6000CW, and its safer, more cost effective and has less issues (just as an example) That would mean engines that are on the problem list will be replaced with these new engines and likely sentenced to death by scrapping. And that means engines that hear about this have to fear the terror of eventually being relegated to this fate; or retirement as museum trains.

I love the video game-esque style! 😍

I still find it funny when Thomas insults Gordon about smelling like ditch water because he previously fell into the swamp near the turntable. Falling into water would be bad but a smelly swamp would be even worse.

Once an engine attached to a train who was afraid of a few drops of rain

going up in flames should be on the fate list, even though this has never happened. It's like taking a bath in lava.

the worst fate is getting scrapped as an engine by diesel 10

I'm new to this channel but I very much like the arcade aesthetic, brings a nice levity to the video.

16:16 noo. Rebbeca going to scrap

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5:23 Rescued and Restored

The thumbnail looks really cool and the video it’s nice and dark and pretty sad

Bulstrode was put back on water in AEG, dont forget that.

Anyone else get a bit creeped out seeing the spiteful Break Van’s face being lifted after the incident? Makes me wonder what becomes of the face.

Trevor was SAVED from scrap

14:04 if you look you can kinda see Diesel 10’s claw

if a steam engine with a hot boiler falls into cold water the boiler can explode which will no doubt kill the engine

I did expect scrapping to be number 1 but I absolutely agree with your order of the final three. But... you did leave out of your list boiler explosions, which we did see once in the show. I would place it just before scrap. Diesels can absolutely explode as well.

59 seconds early. When I watch these videos, I know you're speaking facts!

8:03 Godred’s ghost: oh This is F@$king BullS&%t!

smudger didn't deserve that he was just built terribly

I love these little 2D pixel animations.

Scruffy and the Spiteful Brake van got what was coming to them.

Scrap is the worst death ever (in my opinion)

That thumbnail is basically what If beeching took sodor

I like the darkness. No one can see me scream 😂

Scruffy after being rebuilt was trapped in the mine collapse due to Percy

Now huricccane wouldnt of melted all the way, but he would still be put through agony until he was tooken out

I would add boiler/engine explosions to the top of the list.

I like the 1980s video game pixelated cut scenes

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