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What's the Most Important Cleat on your Boat? 

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Beginning boat operators, do you know which cleat on your boat is the most important and why? Watch this video while Shawn explains the pivot point of your boat and the extreme importance of allowing your bow and stern to move freely while you're docking.
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Комментарии : 39   
@stevep7129
@stevep7129 Год назад
Love the teaching concept. I've utilized this technique for years now because I saw it online somewhere. It's invaluable knowledge. Over 30yrs I've had 10 single screw boats and didn't really know how to confidently drive a boat until my last boat... my first new boat. Since 2019, I've obsessed in learning how to control and keep my boat ding free... never going to happen. But I am much more in control now. I've seen several of your videos and will recommend them to fellow boaters. Keep sharing the great information.
@boattrainingonline6561
@boattrainingonline6561 Год назад
Steve, thank you so much for your comment! I call that "Ass in the seat time" or experience. Single screw boat operators are true boat operator without a doubt. You have to be 2 or 3 steps ahead of yourself all the time or you'll find yourself in the deep stuff in short order. I used to run a single screwed tug that was really heavy which added another dimension to boat handling. She taught me a lot but mostly to go slow. Thanks again!
@leecrook6918
@leecrook6918 10 месяцев назад
Newbie boaters in U.K. on a 30’ cruiser with single shaft screw and starboard prop walk. Our new mooring is on the port side, which is definitely hit and miss ....even without a breeze!😅 Binge watched most of your videos this afternoon...thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and making such well presented and comprehensive lessons. I am now filled with hope for the next time we’re at the boat - it will be a great learning day putting into practice your teachings! #2 mooring line is a light bulb moment for me. 👍🏼
@boattrainingonline6561
@boattrainingonline6561 10 месяцев назад
By all means, please let know your progress or if you have any difficulties!!!
@HDMScorp
@HDMScorp Год назад
Thank you for the video. Very informative. I've been a captain for 7 years now and I'm proud to say I've become an expert at docking boats. I've seen so many boaters and captains struggle by not using wind, current, fenders, and especially lines to their advantage. It only creates more anxiety which quickly leads to poor/frantic decisions.
@boattrainingonline6561
@boattrainingonline6561 Год назад
Thank you so much for your comment! I completely agree and it's one of the reasons I want to start this channel. I see so many things out there that just don't have to happen with a little training. This video stuff is really stretching my comfort zone and sometimes I feel like I may not be getting my point across. But I'm having fun, so I'm going to keep at it. I hope our paths cross; I would love to shake your hand and compare notes.
@karikarr6377
@karikarr6377 Год назад
Just found your channel and really like your teaching technique! Very easy to understand and follow. Our new-to-us (last year) boat is twin turbo-diesel, 490hp each, tons of power and when put into gear it wants to GO. Absolutely cannot do more than VERY quick in-and-out of gear while maneuvering, and when going forward out of the slip we’re learning that in-and-out one at a time (stbd in-and-out, then port in-and-out, etc. ) allows for slower speed and more control and keeps the boat from surging ahead. We have a fairly narrow fairway, so when backing in, we’re learning that we have to look at conditions EACH time, make a plan before we even enter the marina, commit to the plan (go slowly, but not dawdle enough to allow the wind to get us), and then not be afraid to abort if things aren’t working right. Despite lots of years of boating between us, this new vessel is a whole new experience, and we NEVER stop learning. The boat will be back in the water from winter storage in 4 weeks, so this is a great time to watch videos like yours and remind ourselves how to do it. No substitute for being prepared, and it makes boating much more enjoyable. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience!
@boattrainingonline6561
@boattrainingonline6561 Год назад
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience. I love talking to sailors especially when they're doing it right. I'm smiling the entire time I read your comment. I have friends who own Carbo's and Vikings, and they have the same experience you describe - it reminds me of wild horse trying to get out of the gate when they clutch in. The entire stern squats when they put it in gear. I was stationed on a Patrol boat (twin screwed) that had a lot of torque and she would really squat too. I hope you have an awesome and safe boating season and please stay in touch.
@StephenCramer-tw2lb
@StephenCramer-tw2lb 8 месяцев назад
Definitely have YOUR person on the dock. Learned that the hard way…
@rodos2001
@rodos2001 7 месяцев назад
Agree! Learned from sailor Don Street yrs ago. So helpful and works to hold position for other lines to follow at your leisure.
@bojangles8837
@bojangles8837 Год назад
Thank for your excellent commentary, This is a subject I preach myself and amazed at the lack of basic docking and handling skills. A good docking almost always starts off with a spring line. (What did Archimedes say: "Give me a place to stand, a lever long enough, and I will move the world") But in this case not a lever but a spring line. Not just any spring line…a magic spring: the one line that, all by itself, makes all the difference. I’m belaboring the point here because spring lines are the trick to easy docking. The key is to have the aft-running spring should run from a point on the boat that is about one third, or a little more, forward from the stern, not from amidships. With a spring properly secured first on the boat and running to a cleat or bollard ranging from about 8 feet (2.4 meters) to as far as your line (or crew) can run aft-exact position on the dock matters not one wit-you are docked. Doesn’t matter: if the wind is blowing you on or off; how long the crew takes to get the other lines on; if the helmsperson must leave the wheel to hand or throw another line to the crew on the dock. Once that magic aft spring is secured, everything else is just tidying up, with no urgency required.
@boattrainingonline6561
@boattrainingonline6561 Год назад
Thank you Bo Jangles, you definitely have this concept mastered!
@jackiekyger1968
@jackiekyger1968 Год назад
A shoe string, Yes! But very likely a double-braided nylon shoestring! Good work here Capt!
@boattrainingonline6561
@boattrainingonline6561 Год назад
Thank you Jack!
@geraldpowell2610
@geraldpowell2610 2 месяца назад
Thank you so much for doing such an amazing job explaining how and why on boating.
@edwardmalthouse973
@edwardmalthouse973 2 месяца назад
Nice video! THank you.
@wolfgangdeussen224
@wolfgangdeussen224 9 месяцев назад
Extrem cool!! Well explained
@boattrainingonline6561
@boattrainingonline6561 9 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for your comment!!!
@vkorac
@vkorac Год назад
Thank you!
@boattrainingonline6561
@boattrainingonline6561 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for your comment!
@luxorbill269
@luxorbill269 Год назад
I added a mid cleat to my new boat because builder didn't. Just a bit behind pivot point.
@boattrainingonline6561
@boattrainingonline6561 Год назад
Thank you so much for your comment! That is great to hear, you absolutely get it - outstanding. I'm sure i don't need to say this but make sure you have a strong backing plate under those cleats to keep them from becoming a missile hazard.
@championskyeterrier
@championskyeterrier 11 месяцев назад
I did the same, just to be able to use an aft spring line from that cleat to dock with. Make the cleat, power slightly forward and boat is pinned to the dock.
@markgiomblanco9813
@markgiomblanco9813 5 месяцев назад
click bate statement .. but I get you point.. I have to unteach so many novice boaters about that cleat because it's also the most over used Cleat when novice boaters should be not be using it first. especially when you get into the tonnage range of 40 - 100+. I don't have much experience on tonnage over the 200 range so and I the lighter stuff since you can basically pull about to the dock with man power yah Midas well just mid cleat because even if there's a better choice to be made it won't matter much anyway ... you just need any line tied. I really enjoy your channel and can see you at the head of the class teaching at a boating safety course. I wish I knew what you've forgotten about being on the water,,, I'm always learning
@4tomop
@4tomop 11 месяцев назад
Great video. For a single screw 65’ yacht, what are your thoughts about backing into the wind on your way to docking and positioning with respect to line 2? Maybe that would add more control in that the bow could not fall off suddenly…
@boattrainingonline6561
@boattrainingonline6561 10 месяцев назад
Tom, thank you so much for your comment! A classic single screw with a right handed prop will always back to port initially, however if you get enough water going pass the rudder, it will become effective and you can use it to steer. Backing into the wind is my second favorite way to deal with the wind, the first being bow on. Line 2 is an absolute game changer. If you can get this line to the dock and you have a good line handler - you are moored. If your bow starts to fall off, hold line 2 and bump it ahead until your yacht is back against the dock. Then resume backing down, taking up slack as you get it. If you have to re-position line 2, do so but don't start putting out your other mooring lines until you get your boat exactly where you want her. Starboard side too with a little left rudder, clutch ahead will keep you yacht tight to the dock and you can easily put out the remaining mooring lines. Where everyone goes over the handle bars is bringing another mooring line to the party too early and this screws up the natural turning points of your yacht. Let me know how you make out.
@jennifercheney5229
@jennifercheney5229 Год назад
Great instruction! Just found your videos. Please keep in mind, though, many of us captains and boat operators are women!
@boattrainingonline6561
@boattrainingonline6561 11 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for your comment, Jennifer! I apologize if my content appears to not include women - completely NOT my intent. I have served with some of the finest boat Captains, XO's, crewmen, and sailors that were women, all of whom have my deepest respect. My targeted audience (my niche) is first-time boaters, the newer boater and boaters who just plain want some help but don't have anyone to help them. When I speak to the camera, I see a family wanting to have fun and create memories that will last a lifetime but my fear is they don't know what's out there that can harm them.
@mohammedalmahmood2486
@mohammedalmahmood2486 Год назад
Very interesting, I will try it on my next trip. My issue is that may pop-up cleat is small and I cannot have a rope around it to do a figure 8. Any suggestions Captain ?
@boattrainingonline6561
@boattrainingonline6561 Год назад
Thank you so much for your comment and your question Mohammed. Pop-up cleats can be challenging so first and foremost, make sure you are using the correct sized line. If you are in a high wind situation, consider putting someone on the dock to handle line from the dock. Attach the eye of your mooring line to your #2 cleat and pass them the bitter end. This will allow your boat will maneuver properly. Just give them commands to "take up slack as you get it" and "hold what you've got" with a round turn and figure eights. The big take away from this video is to allow your boat maneuver properly while mooring and that is done by utilizing your #2 cleat in whatever fashion you can come up with. You may even consider making a double eye pendant. Thanks again, great question.
@mohammedalmahmood2486
@mohammedalmahmood2486 Год назад
@Boat Training Online Thank you very much Captain for your reply. As you mentioned, #2 cleat will be the one we will focus on. Very informative videos with real life examples , much appreciated.
@shawnpollard4481
@shawnpollard4481 Год назад
@@mohammedalmahmood2486 Please call me Shawn. I hope that helped. If you have any other questions and I know the answer, I’d be happy to help.
@Coyotehello
@Coyotehello 11 месяцев назад
I will think that you are talking about being alone on the boat. And yes a boat on a trailer. That tells me the type of boat you are referring to. 15-20...24ft powerboat. With that I would kind of agree with you using the midship cleat. But with the boat getting bigger or with wind pushing you off the dock this midship cleat method will not work. Given that you are alone you want to use your stern cleat. As per your drawing you have room ahead so... Approach the dock parallel, while in gear dead slow and the helm on center-line, with your stern cleat line in hand you jump off the boat and make fast that line on the dock. With that done the engine will gently tug on the stern cleat and hug the dock, you can stay there all day long. Increase throttle if you have a headwind or mild off the dock wind. (or until you run out of fuel!). Now tie your midship as spring lines and your bow and you are done. That is called the Slocum method. If you have no room ahead then I agree with you, mostly: Come into your finger dock as slow as possible with the bow to midship section parallel to the dock (on sail in particular this makes a difference), power in neutral. Have both the midship and stern lines in hand, aim for midship to hit the very tip of the finger, run to midship and jump off the boat as early as possible tying midship line to the tip cleat on the finger dock, stabilize the vessel, walk the boat forward switching the midship line to the stern line on the tip dock cleat. Never pull the line directly from your hand (never handle a live line with no turn on a cleat or post, always have half a turn on a cleat for leverage and stopping power. Now you have only one situation that is challenging: If the wind or current is pushing you away from the finger dock. You might be lucky and the wind or current will be blocked by the big sailboat or powerboat next to your slip in that case its back to the previous method. If you have no luck enter your slip stern or bow first depending on your prop walk and use that to assist you. As with everything in boating there is not 'one' solution. Best of "Luck"!
@boattrainingonline6561
@boattrainingonline6561 11 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for your, very interesting!
@dadejazzba402
@dadejazzba402 Год назад
Makes sense...a line to the center of gravity
@boattrainingonline6561
@boattrainingonline6561 Год назад
Thank you for your comment Dade! It’s simple and it makes sense but you’d be surprised how many people fight the natural design of their boat. I appreciate your comment!
@markgiomblanco9813
@markgiomblanco9813 Месяц назад
The most overused mind space in boating is the ridiculous mid cleat spring,,, It’s the most underused line I’ve ever used and will continue to be.,. Just teach spring line and get away from that mid cleat. 50 years of watching boaters who have been at the helm for a lifetime and still stuck on that line….
@abdulkkhan5095
@abdulkkhan5095 11 месяцев назад
He has already confused everyone when he says use line2 ???
@boattrainingonline6561
@boattrainingonline6561 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for your comment!
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