They say it's not "supposed" to be watched by kids, but I see right through that. Because the casting and all of the promotion surrounding the show as well as teen fashion and makeup stores revolving around "euphoria" looks, that is exactly the audience shows like this are intended for. It's actually disturbing to me, because when I was a kid, Degrassi was controversial and it was actually real and taught me a lot, but I watched a few episodes of Euphoria and I was just like wow times have changed. It's conditioning.
Every time I watch Euphoria, I feel like I was a boring teenager. Can’t related to anything in the show. 😂 I went to school, did my homework, study. That’s it. 🤣
I dropped "Riverdale" like a hot potato during Betty's infamous strip tease and pole dance in the pub. I don't care if the actress was in her twenties, the CHARACTER was a teenager, and it was all in front of a group of strangers, her boyfriend, boyfriend's dad, and own mother!
I watched the show (this was a long ass time ago so I might be wrong) but no one there wanted her to strip. I feel like people bring that up but there are so much better examples of this within the show and in other shows that people just don’t bring up.
@@zymir5494 they could still incorporate into the show somehow, no one is saying we want to see them studying & doing work 24/7 but it’s like school has no actual affect on characters in these shows nowadays and that’s just not realistic. elite which is a show on netflix still included how school affects the characters in the show without making it all about school, like whether or not the kids are going to graduate and get into certain colleges is written into the show bc that’s what most high schoolers are worrying about. in shows like euphoria we literally barely see them in class and the only time we see them in school, is when they’re in the hallways talking about nothing school-related and the scenes are usually only 5 seconds. even one of the college characters in the show only had 5 seconds of his storyline discuss how college affected him. we’re just saying that not all teenagers are focused on sex, drugs, & partying.
@@destinyn63 yes degrassi is such a good balance between the school and social lives of actual high schoolers. The only thing unrealistic about Degrassi is how well everyone gets along and how nobody really parties (bc I lived a Degrassi high school life but I definitely experienced a lot of stuff that happens in euphoria, I think there needs to be a show that’s an equal balance between Degrassi and Euphoria, that would be high school perfectly.
Fr like we dont be just going around murdering ppl and sniffing flour and being snakes like I have school tmrw and I haven't done any of the three or four homework assignments that I have
i think the problem is also with society as well because HBO gave us a show called “the s3x life of college girls” and it didn’t get the same hype as shows like Euphoria
That show, Sex Life of College Girls actually was critically acclaimed and renewed for a second season. Euphoria has been around a lot longer and has Zendaya and Jacob Elordi who were huge stars prior to the show.
I like that show so far, and it helps that the characters are in college, as opposed to high school. I wish that more projects would depict college life more frequently, especially with the characters being legally adults.
@@du3844-m4v critically acclaimed by people whose job It is to watch/rate shows? Lol. Because I have not seen a single ad or promo 😭 or heard people talk about It (going to watch now tho!)
I had a great time watching that show. It's also very lighthearted, which is like. A refreshing departure from the gritty edgy teenage shows being discussed here, haha.
Totally agree with you. On one hand, yes, many people discover their sexuality in high school. So dealing with that topic in general is not the problem, I think. The problem is how glamorized it is. It is always supposed to be hot, everything works, everyone knows everything. That's not how your first experiences are at all! It is awkward, you have so many questions, it is embarassing... That's why I like the way sex education portrays that topic. And I also agree with you that there should be more shows set in college (even though I don't understand how college in america works at all haha), there are so many interesting things about it! For me, the sex I had in high school was in retrospect pretty shitty, only in university it actually started to get good lol
Alot of these shows would be less creepy if they took place in college or if the character were in their 20s. Degrassi is the only show that gets it right.
Degressi created the assignment, why nobody is copying is egregious. They use actual children, and they were still able to deal with serious/dark topics without needing to hire adult actors to do sexual things.
I kind of feel like college settings would be more realistic for this. The characters’ parents are barely present. Do people in highschool really have this much freedom? And when do they do homework?🤭
@@hernandez4856 Actually, it would. Countries like South Korea, China, and Japan have characters who experience the stress of studying and exams while managing their social lives and that been doing pretty well. America just likes to oversexualize everything and the school is just a prop, lol
I think oversexuality is the problem. Sex education frames the teenagers in a very realistic and healthy way. The teen characters aren’t exploited in any way. Most teen shows do too much and don’t oversexualize them. That’s the one bad thing about euphoria others than that it’s great.
At this point I’ll rejoice if a show about high school shows someone having absolutely no romantic or sexual experiences whatsoever :) some of us lived that life u know (and it’s okay)
the older I get the more convinced I am that this is grooming bc these shows are meant to appeal to teens. I almost never see content created in mind for adults to be this sexual about minors.
The thing that we aren't really taught as a society is that everything we see enters our subconscious. Our subconscious mind affects our actions on the daily. It's why ads work better when we've skipped them. We buy things without remembering where we saw them. For me, I only realized the affect Pretty Little Liars had on me when I turned 23. I was 14 and thinking I was in love with my 25+ year old teacher.
@@MENACE-km6bd yeah pll rlly messed up a lot of us. I rmbr being into ezr*a in the early seasons bc he "didn't know" when they initially hooked up but even if that had been true, he was still pursuing her after he found out. it's so 🤮🤮
Wife is watching gunny and Georgia and I literally came by this video ranting about this exact issue! As a dad of a 3 year old i find it very gross its basically watching teen doing it way too intimately which is not fucking ok
Hollywood’s obsession is not only gross but I feel like when you allow literal kids to see their fellow (portrayed) kids do the things that are being done on euphoria and Gossip Girl…. They kind of imitate in a way. from behaviors and way of dressing/talking. And even dealing with situations that maybe be similar in their lives that they see on TV. Not to be dramatic but …. It’s slightly dangerous to allow this type of stuff to be seen by young kids. They just absorb they don’t know better. But I love your commentary per usual!!! ❤️💜
I agree. I’m currently in high school and I’ve seen several people look at shows like euphoria and gossip girl and apply them to their own personality traits, luckily not to the extent that the shows themselves go to but definitely in the sense of adopting how certain characters talk or their approach to high school as a whole. The over-sexualization of high schoolers honestly doesn’t feel like an “accurate representation of the high school experience” like some shows (ex: euphoria) claim to be, it feels like a bunch of adults looked at social media and decided that’s what modern teens do
You can talk about sex and sexuality, without aggressively showing it like a soft core porn. KennieJD did a great video on this. It seems like this more mature version in some ways just as inaccurate. Romanticising relationships and trauma that really isnt a good look
@@bro-ss2eu well it happens 🤷♂️ i’m not sure what to say because it literally does. it wouldn’t make sense if they took it out for a realistic portrayal +i it’s a rated r show. you knew what you were getting into when you first started the show.
@@hernandez4856 Yeah but sometimes shows like Euphoria goes over the top just for shock value its okay to be nude on the LEGAL SETTING gosh most of us know what happen in sex, it just too much, this isn't pern.
Honestly, I'm the "cool 30 something auntie" so my teen cousins and nieces/nephews talk to me about everything. Even they said Euphoria is unrealistic. They're not a bunch of nymphos popping pills and swapping nudes. They do homework, go to the mall, eat food, talk, and do normal things. They even said no one really throws parties like that and parents aren't "OK, I support any and everything you do". I spaced the age these characters are. I agree, college would've been better.
I feel like another problem is that real life is also starting to reflect it, I have seen so many middle schoolers and younger teens looking older than me wearing tons of makeup and mature clothing. like yes give them some freedom of expression but also some of this stuff leads to serious image issues like EDs, unhealthy and dangerous sexual situations and an overall dislike for their natural selves and identity issues
My kid isn't getting full freedom of expression if her freedom of expression results in her looking 20 at 14 which is what happens sometimes. Cause girls reshape their whole face using makeup contouring. This is something I noticed a lot when I lived in the south west girls at the mall who you felt were young acting way too grown.
Aside from all the perverts in Hollywood I think high school is just a convenient setting for a show. A lot of it can be blamed on lazy writing. All the characters see each other every day, many might not have a job yet, it will have people from many walks of life whereas a college setting will have kids that a) actually got into college and b) could afford college
I can tell you that a majority of people who attended high school were not experiencing these major things, maybe some people were, but this was not the rule but the exception. Hollywood's over-saturated with high school dramas that tackle heavy handed subject matter, which is fine, but is it too much to ask for a fun slice-of-life saccharine disney-version of high school dramas? There needs to be a balance and the message being pushed to impressionable kids is that everybody's doing sex, drugs and all that stuff when that's not necessarily true half of the time. I really wish more studios would make drama shows that tackle the heavy subject matter in college or post-grad life, because it works so well there, but this ain't it. It also doesn't help that the characters are portrayed by adults who are meant to be minors are seen partaking in adult activities which has always given me a weird feeling. Seeing minor characters on-screen doing stuff like that just screams sExUaLiZaTiOn for me. Again, why not tackle these heavy handed issues in a college/post-grad setting? Because it's the trend to have high schoolers go through this stuff. Another problem I have is that there's no balance to the content, meaning that either the drama is super super dark with no sprinkles of hope or happiness at all, that extreme isn't good. Again, people have their own preferences but honestly, can we just get more shows that are less edgy and dark but more optimistic? This is an interesting commentary vid and I hope you do more of these because it allows for people to have an open discussion on these issues.
Thank you for this comment Davina. I agree with you and I said the same thing in my video back when I criticized Netflix for overly sexualizing “teenagers”💯
I luv ur commentary vids Imrguency and also I am loving this vid so far and again congratulations on getting picked for the RU-vidr black creators campaign and also I agree Hollywood is very obsessed w highschoolers especially w On my Block, All American, and Outer Banks
My sister was reluctant to watch Euphoria when it first came out even though me and my other siblings loved it. I didn’t get her reasoning about it being weird watching a show about high-schoolers with so much sexual content. To me, this was a narrow minded and shallow take. Over the past almost 3 years now my mindset has changed. I still appreciate the show but they definitely should’ve made them college students. Certain scenes are needlessly extra like with the drawn out dick/ass shots… Idk love the show from a writing/narrative stand point but I don’t blame anyone over high school age for not liking it.
I think a big problem is they hire adult actors in their 20s, sometimes even in their 30s, not only just due to working hours but so they can do those scenes. If they hired actual teenagers closer to the age of the characters they could still address edgy subjects like sexuality etc without showing anything graphic considering how young the characters are meant to be.
Is not the actors...imagine doing what euphoria does but with teenagers... Euphoria producers use the actors age as an excuse to write it's teenage characters into questionable situations that wouldn't fly if they had teenage actors.
This might be an unpopular opinion but when Max got back into the throuple in the gg reboot I wanted to punch a wall because that relationship is either purely for sexual fantasy/voyeurism or was just written so poorly that it has no real substance
To me is soooo unrealistic considering they're all like 17. Like they all be having s*x and poly relationships like they've been living for 40 years lmao. I know there are teens who are more mature than others but gurl ... come on now how mature can a 17 y/o be???
I WAS SO MAD 😭😭 I was just screaming max baby these people don't love you!! This relationship cannot properly function because no matter what they say, they don't consider his feelings or his experiences. They don't even treat him right as a friend so how will they treat you right in a relationship????
@@SoWhosGae I know a young couple that was into polyamory in high school and there was so much drama and jealousy and it was MESSY AF. Not smooth at all and they ended up breaking up and not even speaking to each other at all after
I think thats why I love the s3x education (at least the first season) because while the show discusses these more adult topics it doesn't feel exploitative and the kids arent made to be overly "seggsy".
@@squidwardsthirdtentacle1198 Nothing to do with sexual exploitation. Mostly because of the will they/wont they getting tiring and some of the characters becoming very dislikable.
@@alyssalucero6850 ah okay, some of my friends have recommended it and I wanted to know whether it was anything like euphoria. I think I'll check it out now
I literally hate the argument of "well it happens/is accurate to real life" Because that means nothing. They could VERY easily just imply they slept together if necessary..? we don't actually have to see it. The excessive adult content and topics in these teen shows literally are so weird because most of your said audience or who you are portraying...can't even watch the show lol. So are you making Tv shows which center teenagers that are discussing or experiencing mature content...for adults??? It's completely illogical
Yes to everything but as someone like me who is 19 and a ✨Virgin ✨ who went through HS with Zero Romantic relationships and never had sex nor had ever had anyone have a crush on them the over sexual scenes lose me .. like yeah there hot but I didnt do that in HS lmfaoo
Imagine what Hbo gonna do to degrassi when it comes back next year. Mind you degrassi was never shy on the topic of sex but they never did nudity in the show either. So now I'm curious in the direction its gonna go since its gonna be on hbo.
i feel like these over the top teen shows get so much attention because of the way the topics in them are glamorized and considered "cool" compared to how actual teenagers live. when you're a teenager (and in college too tbh) there's this peer pressure that if your life isn't wild you're missing out. let's be honest, the only reason these studios get away with it is because the actors have all gone through puberty and look x10 more attractive in these situations than a literal child ever would. just imagine an actual 15-year old dressed to go to euphoria high and it loses some of the appeal. most high schoolers just... don't look like that because they aren't meant to be s*xualized in the first place. (not to mention that teen s*x is meant to be awkward and not professionally choreographed)
I think it’s definitely supposed to be a form of entertainment/wish fulfillment for teenagers in high school. When I was 14, Riverdale was my first teen drama. A few years prior, a lot of media for tweens very much, if they weren’t about kids their age, it was about kids in high school with a very sanitized gaze but still very wish fulfillment like. It was all about the nerdy girl and the popular guy and popularity contests and first dates, kisses, and tame parties with no alcohol. However, by the time you’re actually in high school, you’re very disillusioned by that and you also may find it boring because high school is no longer this Amazing Exciting Anomoly, you’re actually in it. So teen entertainment needed to be “spiced up” So they doubled down on the wish fulfillment. They cast beautiful actors already in their 20s and past “Awkward teen phases” with perfect hair and makeup, beautiful aesthetic expensive clothes, and gave them incredibly interesting wild lives that shifts from genre to genre Riverdale and Pretty Little Liars were mystery genre so they went on to solve mysteries while Euphoria is more of a “drama” drama if that makes sense. These teenagers go to amazing parties with alcohol and maybe drugs, fall in perfect love that cause ship wars, have a lot of sex that is completely sexy and devoid of any awkwardness (added with expensive lingerie most teens can’t buy) and there’s no talk of the stressful thing that encapsulates most teenagers lives: school or homework or tests outside of the setting. It created a lot of insecurities within me going through high school, I thought that I was ugly and boring. It definitely is super suspicious for adults to make such curated media for teenagers that almost seems to sell things like sex or drugs or to look at their teenaged characters through a hypersexualized gaze. It’s strange how this is the norm.
Kennie J.D. discussed this topic at length in her Euphoria video. I agree with both yours and her sentiments; shows, specifically ones like Euphoria, that tackle heavy subject matter and feature a lot of nudity (of supposed minors) can have a lot of extremely problematic undertones. The decision to set these shows in high school is strategic [and fully intentional]. Like you mentioned, why not age the characters up and put them in a more “adult-like” setting, e.g. college? Then the viewers aren’t met with feelings of discomfort when watching aforementioned “minors” engaging in explicit content on screen. There’s no reason, as much as I enjoy the show, that there should be as much nudity as there is in Euphoria. You can have the understanding that characters are about to engage in sex without showing nudity; the audience isn’t stupid! Anyway, I recommend Good Trouble on Freeform/Hulu. It’s set a bit after college and despite the occasional drama (which is expected), the way they deal with real world topics, sexuality and adult themes is *chef’s kiss*
In my opinion writing story about teens doing very adulthood things has been since Shakespeare and maybe even before him. I also have to point out that teenager and adolescence as a consepts are very new terms. I think because of that shows glorifies teenage experience.
@@bubbles4897 no I think it's pretty accurate. The concept of a teenager only came about when children didn't have to work from the age of 12 or so. Think work houses in late Victorian England. Once those were phased out, and other human rights and child laws were introduced, as well as school becoming mandatory, children were given time to experience their adolescent years. "Teenagehood", in the way we think of it, only really came about approx. 100 years ago
Watching western content based in HS really freaks me out cause Eastern dramas almost never sexualises kids!? Even when they are portrayed by adult actors. This is the reason I'm not watching season 2 of Euphoria. I loved season 1 but it's too much for me. I like Sex Ed too. It portrays sex in realistic way imo and not glamorized (tho it has some problems too).
Also, portraying teen characters like this get very old, very fast. As someone in high school, I don't have the same freedom as Ginny and Georgia characters, or euphoria characters. I can't explore myself in the same way that they do, or I'd get in serious trouble (that's another thing, what happened to consequences of your actions???) Portraying teen characters in this way and only this way takes up space, where other teen shows could talk about topics besides sex, substance use, etc. Yes, some teens are sexually active, but not all of us are. Where are our teen shows? What about topics like existentialism, or discrimination? Those are things that I've had to deal with as a teen, but I don't see any teen shows that portray that. There are so many different high school experiences, and portraying only one version is very limiting. there's only so much you can do when you portray teenagers the way they are portrayed in the media. In the future, I wish to see less oversexualization of teen shows, and more diverse portrayals of teenagers.
Not yall acting like these shows only show sex and nothing less. Did you completely miss the part where Euphoria deals with loss, death, feeling like an outsider, mental health and to some extent religious beliefs ? Maybe the issue is that YOU over-focus on the sexual aspect.
True, they could've touch other things that not yet explore in media that much, its okay to touch the usual teen problems like substance abuse but it only focus on that. Geezz there's more problems out there than meet the eye like teens struggle in financial aspect.
Switched at birth is a high school AND college show and one of the things I️ appreciated was that the two main characters DO face consequences for their actions and have more realistic motives for bad behavior
most people actually start their sex life at 18. many have their first kiss in their 20s. so they couldve just centered the show around college/work and it would still be valid, considering most of them dont even have present parents anyways.
@@MENACE-km6bd they're bringing it back with a whole new class, but some previous students will make cameos like Zoe. Im excited. They're shooting it this summer and releasing next yr.
i thought i was the only that that felt this way too, i feel weird watching these shows when it takes place in high school. they should really start having more tv shows and movies where the setting is in college or sum
having it set in college wouldn’t have the same impact. especially in regards to euphoria, sex aside. Rue overdoesed in her home and was found by her sister. If this were to happen in a college setting not only is rue technically an adult the entire sequence would’ve turned out differently. As a whole i feel like a lot of people are kinda jaded but the fact that high schoolers are highly sexual beings so it makes sense. Hormones are heavy and so is rebellion. I’m not saying i agree with all of the visual portrayals but the narratives make alot of sense.
97% of high school students in america dont deal with half these things. I had sex TWICE in hs and it was basic and vanilla not pornographic and professional, and never did any hard drugs. I drank at parties and occasionally smoked weed. I didnt know anyone who was addicted to like heroin and like sexually assaulting people. All that shit happened in college. Obviously some people probably had different hs experiences than me. But I dont really know anyone whos hs was like east highland. Also the whole social hierarchy thing is so cliche. Everyone has their own group but the whole king of the school and his underlings shit is nonsense lmao
Honestly, if they casted teenagers as teenagers like they used to we wouldn’t have this problem. Hollywood would be forced to go through the barrier of consent when wanting to have over sexualized scenes like they’re doing. And it weird! I wish there were more college shows, they always skip that period of relatable life.
I feel like Sex Education is the only high school drama I’ve seen that’s gotten it right. Most of these teen dramas that are hyper sexualised aren’t even for teens who are the same age as the characters but the younger teens will still watch it. Like Riverdale for example, at 16 I definitely had no idea how sex is supposed to be but shows make it seems like it’s perfect the first time. I guess all I have to say is why doesn’t Hollywood make the characters Seniors or Freshmen?
Zoey 101 and Victorious weren’t 90s 😅 but you’re right that the rise of this trend was super prevalent in 90s teen dramas! Dawsons Creek, My So Called Life and Beverly Hills 90210
Honestly, I agree with everything. I also think that sexualizing too much also makes teenagers who see these series or movies be willing to engage in sexual activities sooner, maybe even without knowing what they are getting into. The same could also be said with drugs and tobacco, many series for the young audience have these themes and as you said in the video they do it to shock. Which makes many teenagers get involved with drugs (that’s why movies like Beautiful Boy are so important) and tobacco at an early age just to be able to belong because of these characteristics, as they are romanticized in fiction nowadays. Amazing vídeo 💕
i just started watching the sex lives of college girls, its really good i actually appreciate showing the nuances. i didnt go to college like everyone else like i didnt start yet but watching the show it does show the bad and good especially with sexuality and discrimation and just kind of getting your hopes down because of how much things arent what they seem. i like it.
FINALLY! I thought I was the only one who saw a problem with over sexualize high schooler, like we know the actors are usually older, but CHARACTERS ARE STILL HIGH SCHOOLERS
I totally agree, however euphoria is more of a show about teens than for teenagers. Which makes the overs€xualization much more creepy. On top of that the show has other dark themes that gives me the impression that this show is for 17 and older. The best solution would be for Hollywood to create more shows or movies about college that is allowed to be dark and Highschools story’s that are similar like victorious and the old Disney shows that are still loved to this day, so that the 13 year olds don’t feel pressured to grow up so fast.
I am going to criticize your video for a bit. Zoey 101 wasn't a 90s show. Degrassi: The Next Generation wasn't a 90s show. When you think of 90s TV shows about teenagers I think of Boy Meets World, 90210, Saved By the Bell. Those shows were one of the first teen shows that were only about teenagers.
agreed! and i think another show that did it great was the original gossip girl, seasons 3-6 were set in college and it barely even made a difference, just made it less weird.
I agree with you really. I can’t watch euphoria cuz it’s TOO EXPLICIT. Like I don’t understand…we don’t need to see everything on tv. The normalization of it is insane
How do you feel about Grownish? They have a lot of topics dealing with college! Especially with substances and they aren’t over sexualized. I love the way you brought up the college experience.
I like to think that in Elite, all of the students are in college rather than in highschool because most of the actors are in their 20s and some in their 30s. Also i think the only "highschool drama" like this that was more beliavable was Skins: the actors really looked their age and although it was pretty rough imo it showed not only that rough part but also the parents and how the "develop". (also sorry for the grammar mistakes)
Idk, I feel like ‘college isn’t as relatable’ is a poor excuse from writers and producers for not making content set in college/about young 20 somethings. I mean, the specifics of American high school are pretty foreign to me as someone who doesn’t live in the US however it doesn’t stop me from enjoying it. I think my main issue is the sheer amount of programs set in high school with mature themes is over saturating the market of adults playing teens…which I think skews the idea of what teenage life for actually teenagers and that itself can be pretty damaging.
Because they are written by people who take the little they know about teens in their vicinity and blow them up into sensationalism to sell it. It gets people talking, which gets more people watching and that makes more money. Also, depending on the writers room, there is a bit of wish fulfillment in the minds of the writers as they look back on their own pasts. Sometimes, they are rewriting their own experiences to their liking.
That's why I started liking korean dramas ..which emphasis over emotional intimacy , human personality and character d first before any physical intimacy ....
im 13 and ive been watching mature & sexual shows like euphoria since i was 10-11. i hate the fact that the media and internet made me grow up so fast. even though i know crazy stories about sex, drugs and alcohol arent going to happen in my real life (to the extent that it shows in euphoria, sex education, etc), it still makes me feel ugly, alone, and boring. i feel like im missing out when in reality, school is nothing like it is in the tv shows and movies. i know those shows are bad for me but i cant stop watching. it sucks
I love derry girls it is a more recent show as well but it isn’t really that mature. Even though they definitely could have gone a darker direction especially with the time period it is set in. It is a comedy though (and irish)
Which is so weird because am in high school, and my life is going to school, back home, sleep and school again. The only sex I see is in theses movies 😂😂😂
Also everyone’s responsible for what they choose to watch but can we talk about how much of an influence these shows have on some people especially teenagers and young adults who are watching this 😭 I feel like I’ve been seeing a lot of people feel bad because they felt their teenagehood was or IS “boring”, they aren’t sexually actively or partying or doing any substances and watching this so they feel bad as a teen or freshly young adult looking back. Again some do relate, so I understand the representation of these events and issues but as EVERYONES saying, we don’t need to see every little thing tbh the show could use a lot of “fade to black” cuts 💀 and it wouldn’t hurt to have a coming of age show that includes the other things different teens like to do ie interests besides s€x and drugs?? 😭 it exists...you can still have a drama without including that stuff so heavily. I know it’s important for people to feel more comfortable to talk about s€x (esp healthy convo’s) and drugs if that’s what they’ve been through and there are teens who have! But this is a show ab high schoolers, we don’t need to see a full fledge scene of soft core. If you’re unable to make a teen or college even (though with college it’s at least better because they’re adults! But again there’s way more to college than that and I think that still puts everyone in a box), drama without making everything a s€x scene I don’t think you need to air your show 😬 and it wouldn’t hurt to throw a healthy relationship into the show to show esp young impressionable viewers that not everything has to end up a certain way.
"popularized and glamorized with shows from the 90s" starts talking about shows from the 2000s. maybe you mean beverly hills 90210, dawson's creek etc. like lmfaoooo
Me being 31 watching this and hearing Rumi list Zoey 101 and Degrassi Next Gen as 90's teen shows...Lol, I love your channel but hun! Completely agree with the oversexualization issue, they've been doing this for the last few decades but the past five years are on another level. I think the great KennieJD said it best - in reference to Euphoria, "I don't need to see a teenager nude in the shower to know they're probably nude while showering"
I have seen alot of differing reasons as to why the teen drama genre is like this and i like that you so address some of those reasons (being more relatable, easy drama for narrative fodder, more easy to rank in profits) And I do agree that there definitely is pedophilic over & undertones present. One reason as why college isn't a super common setting is that college has become more of a thing that people of more privileged backgrounds experience therefore not everyone can relate because alot more people are opting not to go to college at all (plus what you said as it not being the same as a high school set story). Although I do agree that not every story has to be relatable to everyone because we as human beings all have different experiences with our circumstances and environments affecting us in differing ways
I always figured that the reason they cast 27 year olds to play teenagers is so they could get away with this stuff. "Yes those are two 16 year olds high on crack and getting it in behind the dollar general BUT look at how mature they look 🤗" Sometimes I forget the show im watching is supposed to be about KIDS around my age until suddenly Ashley is celebrating her 17th birthday party and in taken a back. (Also actual teenagers wouldn't legally be aloud to film some of those scenes and how else would they over sexualize minors 🤞🏼😋)
I hear you about sexualizing high school kids on these shows. I think at the very least Euphoria uses actors who are in their 20's. If you have the stomach for it, I'm sure you've heard of an early 90's movie called "Kids." Not only did this cult classic not age well, the actors are actual kids. Ranging from 10-18. It's pretty disturbing.
I remember watching that at 12 thinking it was for kids 🙁 there’s a RU-vid video about the negative impact the production of the movie has on one of the actors and it’s complicated nature
I've just realized that there is a real shortage of TV/film about people in their 20s. The most popular shows are either about teenagers (Euphoria), or middle aged people (Succession). Just some examples, I know there's more.
I think its all a game of target audience. Im 17, just out of high school, and euphoria is actually scarily close to my high school experience. Every character has something that has either happened to me or to people im close to. I relate immensely to that show. Its a show made for high schoolers. I think its content can be largely educational for younger viewers, (13 or 14yo,) but any 17 year old who has gone through the things they have and can therefore relate to the show, those things wouldve happened euphoria or not. As far as younger audiences go, I think theres an argument to be made that teaching sexual content properly just encourages safer sex from teenagers, and even if more frequent, its still safer than occasional uneducated sex. For older people, though, this is just entertainment. Any show made with people in their thirties in mind that sexualizes teenagers is made because its popular for people in their thirties to sexualize teenagers. When the target audience is for older teens, i dont see a problem with it.
TO WHAT KINDA HIGHSCHOOLS DO YALL GO TO?? 💀💀 Euphoria ain't relatable at all in my experience but it's fun nonetheless watching teens just dressed like potato bags studying would be kinda boring I guess
I agree, however, it recently came out that two girls (one dead and one injured) just attempted to “be like euphoria” and experiment with drugs. I’m almost 100% sure it is reaching very highly influenced people, and it is dangerous as hell. Of course, this is a very unlikely occurrence but it is possible. Sexualization of teenagers in the media can be accurately represented, but it shouldn’t be promoted to the extent euphoria is
@@DigitalRag3X It's not a bad thing. People have different experiences, some grow up sheltered, some get more wild in their youngers years. You're being judgemental.
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In my opinion, the most realistic portrayal of ‘high school kids’ was Young Royals… which is ironic, because it’s about a prince in a super elite school, but still 🤷♀️
Literally the problem would be solved if they had just made the characters go to college instead of highschool. Yes, the actors are of age and consent to nudity and sex scenes but we're esentially watching minors having sex because their characters are mostly below 18. And yes, things like that happen in highschool, but maybe don't market the show "mature audiences only" if you're gonna show highschool life. They adress so many topics that teens before the age of 18 shouldn't be seeing on screen but then set the show in highschool so that the main watcher demographic would be teenagers. That's what doesn't make sense to me.
This season of euphoria is like" All style no substance" , some of the storylines from season 1 got sidelined and they are sticking to these teen show tropes like love triangles, drugs, sex etc and the nudity in this season doesn't add much to the story either.
idk about everyone else, but my high school experience definitely was not a disney show, there was sex, drugs, drinking etc. but for most people it was nothing like how euphoria portrays it idk there’s like gotta be a middle ground or something
Yeah Euphoria seems really to over exaggerate even though its so unnecessary, gosh they need to chill sometimes. I think teen shows nowadays are just going for shock values that are obviously force on the plot itself. I like it natural and non repetitive.
imo the portrayal of college would/could be as relatable as the portrayal of high school because i think for the majority of high school students, high school itself was not remarkable, but the things that coincidentally happened during that time period were, and could just as easily happen after characters are 18. and for college not being accessible, some characters could just not attend that college but are tied to the characters who do, whether they work together, are related, share a hobby, etc. like fez and his household don't really have connection to the high school (maybe he used to attend but its not a major plot point) but they are still integral characters, so by having more characters who arent in the school setting, it could still be largely relatable
I don’t know if this is different in usa, but i mexico where I’m from, highschool was definitely the time where we all tried alcohol, drugs and sex for the first time. It was also where we would wear the sluttiest clothes and try to act all grown up. After high school ends it just all calms down and your life becomes a bit more balanced between parties and the serious stuff.
Degrassi is the rare example that got it right. Casting ages for the ages they were portraying. It did "go there", but it was far more realistic to the average suburban teen and way less sexualized. However, I'm nervous what the HBO reboot of Degrassi is gonna bring
I feel like once Heathers took off shows like Riverdale, Euphoria, and even Pretty Little Liars in some moments have increased the amount of scenes in sex.
I feel like young royals was done write and I love the writers!! It has some mature stuff in their but not all the time and it has a sweet and deeper meaning like all these Netflix teen shows exist for them to make money but with young royals yes it made the, a lot of money but it actually made me feel something and portray stuff RIGHT. But I digress, can’t wait for season 2 WOOOOOO💕💕🔥
If these shows were set in college, they would be accepted more... the whole point of these shows being set in high school is to convey the intensity of the new/ first experiences of people who are not adults. It doesn't give the same impact to the trials and tribulations that REAL teenagers go through in this day and age. It's imperative to the storyline & the true character development.
? I went through a lot of the nondrug stuff that they go through in euphoria when I was in high school so to me, in my experience that show is very accurate. Just because you didn’t experience it doesn’t mean it wasn’t happening.
Degrassi Was The Only Show That Got It Right! And Why Does Hollywood Feel Like Life Just Ends At High School! Your Adult Problems Have Nothing On Your High School Drama!
Omg I thought I was the only one with this opinion! 💀😭Like I wanna try out Euphoria but I'm uncomfortable with them being high schoolers. And honestly I share the same opinion with anime😌But that's a whole different topic ☕☕☕
